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November 16, 2025, 09:50:38 AM
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The only reason you should abort a child is when it will take the life of a mother when it's not removed, they have been situation's like that and the parent will abort the child in other to save the mothers life, this is the only reason why we should abort a child, however these days people in a relationship usually abort there child because they are not Ready to become a mother or a father but it is totally wrong, in some countries committing abortion is a crime and there is a punishment attached to it however in some countries also it is legal to do abortion.
The only thing I will have to say in this is that a baby that is still growing should be given the chance to live the same way you are living the baby should be giving the chance to see the world, if you know you cannot take care of a child don't make a child in order to kill it when it's growing.











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November 16, 2025, 05:13:27 PM
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The only reason you should abort a child is when it will take the life of a mother when it's not removed, they have been situation's like that and the parent will abort the child in other to save the mothers life, this is the only reason why we should abort a child, however these days people in a relationship usually abort there child because they are not Ready to become a mother or a father but it is totally wrong, in some countries committing abortion is a crime and there is a punishment attached to it however in some countries also it is legal to do abortion.
The only thing I will have to say in this is that a baby that is still growing should be given the chance to live the same way you are living the baby should be giving the chance to see the world, if you know you cannot take care of a child don't make a child in order to kill it when it's growing.

Exactly. There are many people ready and willing to adopt, if it wasn't for all the government paperwork.

The abortion industry is really a body-parts industry.


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November 16, 2025, 07:30:38 PM
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Again, I said I am divided on the issue of abortion.
It would even more desirable in my eyes of babies did not get aborted and they could be given to adoption since the very moment they are born, but you will obviously point out how that could be translated in an economical deficit to the state, we all know that rising a child is not free and it will cost tax payer money if one's government take those children in their custody.

I simply do not like the idea of children being seen as undesirable, disposable and treated as objects before they are even born. It would make more sense to execute adults who have committed very serious crimes against their peers, so the state won't have to feed them and give them shelter for years in prison.
I will continue to believe it is better to educate people about how to use widely available methods to prevent unwanted pregnancy, that would decrease the number of abortions and the percentage of children being raised in dysfunctional households.

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November 17, 2025, 06:37:59 AM
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Some subjects do awaken the sub conscious man I to thinking wildly. The concept of abortion is morally wrong and there's no life without morals. Every religion frowns at abortion so how do you think civilization is enough to justify the act? Never! Individuals always find reasons to push whatever ideology they have into the society without thinking of its practical effects on the entire society.

The western world started the promotion of gay marriage and everyone clapped for them until the arrival of Donald trump. This will tell you that matter how mad everyone tend to get, morals can not be completely waged out. Greater percentage of government laws are initiated from religion and anyone who strictly abides by the teachings of religion would hardly fall into any government offences. Abortion is evil and morally wrong in all ramifications.

Let's look at it this way, seeing Abortion as a healthcare would increase the number of premarital pregnancy and consequent abortions rate. This would go on and on until the society looses it's value completely. Even if abortion is not criminalised, at least it doesn't deserve a promotion.

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November 17, 2025, 02:07:17 PM
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Abortion is about couples not taking responsability for their acts. They want the pleasure, satisfaction and to do things without any sense of responsability, but they don't want to face the implied consequences which come on the sequence.

More than the discussion about it being murder or not, the main point here is the fact modern human beings want to have legitimized the idea they can do whatever they want. That is why we are having lots of issues nowadays in social interactions. Everyone is right about everything, and the fault for the problems is always of someone else.

At same time, you have love disappearing from the world, as it takes a high dosage of frigidity to reach the conclusion to legalize abortion would be the solution for anything. The modern human being puts himself as the most important thing on the center of the universe, who has to have his personal necessities supplied at all costs, in first place, without giving up on anything to also supply the necessities of those around.

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November 17, 2025, 10:10:44 PM
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Abortion  can be seen as murder and also can't be seen as murder but to save life.
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Why I say it can be seen as saving life is because some  ladies may have  complications with their pregnancy to go for an abortion. I am saying this cause it happened to a friend of mine  where as she had  some complications during her trimester that lead to the doctor suggesting they abort the baby or she'll die. The husband had no choice to not loose his wife and also  his baby he decided for the baby to be aborted

It has to do with the intent of  the individual  that wants to carry out an abortion. Me personally do not  support abortions.  But circumstances one find  themselves happened that lead to it. So to say abortion is not entirely murder but can be done to save lives.
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November 18, 2025, 08:11:13 AM
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I really disagree with you on this, because abortion doesn't have anything related to healthcare but purely murder that both partner just committed on the process, once a lady has run a pregnancy test and the doctor confirmed it that she is 1 week or 1 months pregnant and the both partner decided not keep that baby and they choose abort the baby, on the art of abortion they have murder the baby because of the  blood that runs through our vein is the same blood through the baby own too.

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November 18, 2025, 05:56:54 PM
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Tell me, why is everyone discussing the end result of the problem and blaming women, but no one wants to discuss the root causes that lead to this?
I will list some of them:
- rape
- Inadequate education of children about sex, including conception
- Low social and financial status in some countries, which often leads to forced prostitution
- Savage and primitive religious movements that effectively turn women into “objects” for the satisfaction of men, pregnancy, and childbirth.
- lack of state care for single mothers or low-income families?
- Why are men not responsible for this child and why are there no laws that oblige them to provide for a healthy pregnancy and the child's life until adulthood if the child's father is not the woman's official husband?
Or is it a difficult and inconvenient path, easier to shift the problem onto the woman and then condemn her for deciding to have an abortion?
 
It is always easier to shift the blame onto someone else and then condemn them than to understand and eliminate the root causes....


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November 18, 2025, 07:24:18 PM
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Tell me, why is everyone discussing the end result of the problem and blaming women, but no one wants to discuss the root causes that lead to this?
I will list some of them:
- rape
- Inadequate education of children about sex, including conception
- Low social and financial status in some countries, which often leads to forced prostitution
- Savage and primitive religious movements that effectively turn women into “objects” for the satisfaction of men, pregnancy, and childbirth.
- lack of state care for single mothers or low-income families?
- Why are men not responsible for this child and why are there no laws that oblige them to provide for a healthy pregnancy and the child's life until adulthood if the child's father is not the woman's official husband?
Or is it a difficult and inconvenient path, easier to shift the problem onto the woman and then condemn her for deciding to have an abortion?
 
It is always easier to shift the blame onto someone else and then condemn them than to understand and eliminate the root causes....

I don't think the majority of Republicans are against abortion if it is medically necessary.  Most of us have no problem with aborting a rape victim's baby.  That's why it was allowed in the first place.  However, there are some massive abuses by women I feel are murderers.  There are prostitutes that use abortion like birth control.  I mean, at some point something should be done.  Maybe after the 20th abortion you get a noose added to your license or something.  As a man, I would like to know if the woman I'm seeing is a legalized serial killer or not.  One or two times, I get it, sure...  Even 5 times, some people are slow to learn from their mistakes.  If you've had 50 abortions though, you are most definitely a serial killer.

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Why do animals protect their eggs? You know the answers right??
A child forming in the womb is an embryo, like an egg preparing to hatch. They have the right to live, killing them before they completely form into a child is murder. Forget the name "Abortion" is just a word used to justify the action.
When the healthcare should be done, is either abstaining from sex, using protection, or taking medications to avoid getting pregnant.

I support your point of view, the medical professionals uses that word to make it look like it is not murder it is murder, in as much forming has already taken place any attempt of removing it is murder.
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abstaining from sex, using protection, or taking medications to avoid getting pregnant.
You do realize that none of these doesn't 100% prevent pregnancy. Women are raped, both rubbers and medications can fail you. You really think that majority of people who don't want o get pregnant aren't using them? Then there are medical issues when it's necessary for the women to get abortion or they die.

Abortion is last solution for everyone and often very difficult and traumatizing for anyone who is pregnant. It's not some walk in the park.

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Perhaps,we all know that an embryo is not a human being.
There's life in the embryo which is why it will gradually transform into human. Don't make twist the meaning of abortion as if it's something good. My religion is against it because why will you take life when you cannot give life. Sex shouldn't be the main focus but the aftermath of it especially, to the youths who think it's fun. Commiting abortion is the same thing as killing a full grown human.

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Commiting abortion is the same thing as killing a full grown human.

That is the issue. Science and religion cannot resolve when life begins and ends, all they can reassure is the fact there cannot be life if there is no unión between an egg and sperm, because of that fact Churches around the world have become slowly more liberal when comes to accepting the use of rubbers and other barrier methods to prevent pregnancy, but when comes to an embryo it gets very tricky and the line of life gets blurry.

It would be conservative to assume the embryo has "life" as soon as conception (union of both cells happen), but that would mean to classify abortion as one process which indeed takes life away from a human being, which would be very controversial, both in a societal and legal terms.

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This is a very sensitive issue but in general I will say abortion is not murder the person involved only get rid of an zygote, when is not yet upto six months of pregnancy,
A woman would not good true the stress of getting pregnant just to get rid of it,   most of the woman undergo abortion are health related issue or if it as a result of rape.
Let me give you am story the happened recently a pastors wife was pregnant and the doctor told her in clear word that she meant not survive the next pregnancy after giving birth to three children true operation, and she died while giving birth to four baby because she refused to go true abortion,
Now my question is who will you blame, the pastor that have faith and ask his wife not to undergo abortion or the wife that obey her husband and refuse to go for the abortion on her own which cost her her life?
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It's an honour to be a part of this platform and I'd like to share something with you all while I await your honest feedbacks on this topic.
N/B: This is a project assignment I'm working on as a health student.

It’s possible to honor life while still respecting choice.And in that balance,we find not condemnation,but understanding.
Murder is the act of killing another human being intentionally and with malice.
Meanwhile the definition of abortion is far different from the murder definition.
Perhaps,we all know that an embryo is not a human being.

When we talk about abortion,we’re not just discussing an act;we’re exploring complex realities  health,autonomy,poverty, trauma,and moral responsibility.To call abortion “murder” means that we're ignoring the ethical responsibility and perspective of conscience or compassion.
Across culture and religions,beliefs vary widely even among denomination and many religious leaders/scholars are against it .

Biologically,Life begins at conception then the person emerges later,with consciousness or brain activity.
From a philosophical standpoint, abortion isn’t considered “murder” if the fetus isn’t yet a person in the moral sense.
Acknowledging that abortion is not murder doesn't mean we celebrate it,it means we recognize it with understanding rather than accusations,with compassion rather than condemnation.

Can this perception be supported and realistic to many?






Abortion is murder! You having a different opinion and that’s fine but you saying abortion is murder like that’s a fact is you being dogmatic.

This is a sensitive topic. And there and scenarios and circumstances where abortion can be considered as the best option, for instance when the mothers life is in danger or when the pregnancy is been carried by a child which was raped.

So every consenting adult that have sex should deal with the consequences of their actions by seeing the child to term they can put the child up for adoption that’s their choice but abortion should not be encouraged people should take responsibility of their actions.
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I'm sorry OP but if there's already a child inside a woman's tummy, that's already life in there. And if it's aborted, meaning to say that they have the intention to end that pure soul and life of that angel, that's killing. Even if we're going to widen our understanding about this thing, the majority is likely to tell that it's still something that shouldn't be done and against the people's moral. But the problem with people that make love, they shouldn't do it if they are not ready if there's a fruit after a few weeks. There are couples that are trying hard but still can't bear a child while them, they're going to end one's innocent life and removing its rights to see this world?

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Let's say abortion can be prevented if partners consider using protection during sexual intercourse and for couples, they should consider a family planning. Abortion is a sin, whether it is in the stage of an embryo or a fetus. Apart from fact that it is a murder, it causes many damages to the reproductive system of the woman because after an abortion, the uterus might suffer an injury which might result to complications such as miscarriages in the future. Even the heavy bleeding alone is not healthy at all because some people can bleed so profusely after an abortion and the case of an incomplete abortion is still another problem.
     A friend of mine told me that her colleague at work gave birth to a child that his mouth was injured and needed a surgery for correction and she got to know that it happened as a result of the pills the woman took while trying to abort the child but didn't work out, it made me believe that some disorder and disability that came from childbirth could be as a result of some complication while the woman was trying to get rid of the pregnancy. It is better an egg is not fertilized in the first place than to undergo an abortion.

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November 21, 2025, 10:23:11 PM
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First you need to know the meaning abortion and murder
You see we tend to forget that abortion in other words means termination and termination means ending an existing process you see.
When a woman is pregnant from day one untill the nine months we still call it pregnancy, pregnancy is a process of creation of life and that means if a woman under go abortion she is stopping a life from coming to the world that's murder

Abortion can be prevented by use protection or both partners should agree to family planning system. It's never a crime to give birth
 I have seen people who engage in the abortion process while they were just boyfriend and girlfriend later got married and the wife could not conceive again for long now,
The doctor said her womb was affected during the abortion period you see.
Now in their head is we could have left the first baby.

Truth be told weather it's embryo abortion is murder. Say no to abortion
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November 21, 2025, 11:30:25 PM
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There's life in the embryo which is why it will gradually transform into human. Don't make twist the meaning of abortion as if it's something good. My religion is against it because why will you take life when you cannot give life. Sex shouldn't be the main focus but the aftermath of it especially, to the youths who think it's fun. Commiting abortion is the same thing as killing a full grown human.

Between good and man abortion is not a good act and personally I am against it and those who think because the baby they intend to flush is not yet a human they should know that it is the blood that forms what ever they are today and that same blood is what the innocent child has which is why no one should think about the act. No one should take the life of anyone the babies doesn't deserve injustice the government needs to put and end to abortion.

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November 22, 2025, 06:09:33 AM
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Between good and man abortion is not a good act and personally I am against it and those who think because the baby they intend to flush is not yet a human they should know that it is the blood that forms what ever they are today and that same blood is what the innocent child has which is why no one should think about the act. No one should take the life of anyone the babies doesn't deserve injustice the government needs to put and end to abortion.
You are very correct about what you said about abortion but i will have to tell you that the government will not decide on ending abortion or putting a law to punish anyone found in such behavior.
Some people that think the way you just highlighted things, fails to understand that whether the pregnancy has form human being or blood, abortion is not good, and I totally condem the those so called abortion of thing but we are in a helpless society and another thing we should also consider is what led to the abortion of a thing, there are helpless situations that could lead people to abortion and I believe that is why to some extent, it is more of healthcare.

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