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March 12, 2026, 10:42:40 PM
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Abortion basically depends on the situation. Now, if an abortion is done outside of marriage, it is definitely a serious crime, especially on the basis of religion. And if a child is produced as a result of the union of a husband and wife, then if the husband and wife do not want to have a child, then the doctor may advise an abortion, but that can be on the basis of the legal relationship between the husband and wife. If abortion is legalized, then extramarital relationships will increase even more and serious degradation and chaos will be created in the society. Therefore, aborting a child born as a result of an extramarital relationship is in no way a physical care, but it is a serious stage of social degradation.

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March 13, 2026, 02:47:01 AM
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Abortion basically depends on the situation. Now, if an abortion is done outside of marriage, it is definitely a serious crime, especially on the basis of religion. And if a child is produced as a result of the union of a husband and wife, then if the husband and wife do not want to have a child, then the doctor may advise an abortion, but that can be on the basis of the legal relationship between the husband and wife. If abortion is legalized, then extramarital relationships will increase even more and serious degradation and chaos will be created in the society. Therefore, aborting a child born as a result of an extramarital relationship is in no way a physical care, but it is a serious stage of social degradation.
It is this kind of issue which caused a debate in the USA Senate recently which almost affected the license of a female obstetrician who was challenged by a senate during their committee hearings. Abortion has become and is gradually becoming an epidemic around the world now with USA facing a significant increase in cases of in person and virtual/absentia abortion. The senate main worries were how will patients be attended to and prescribed a drug for their abortion without coming into contact with the doctors in-person which they say has leads towards the increased number of abortion in the country. Whether married or no married, abortion definitely have some health impact on the lady whether it causes a severe health challenges or not, because it is more like obstructing the normal process of pregnancy which is a natural phenomenon in women life. The timeframe at which this is done is also important because early abortions will ordinarily pose less threat to life than late abortion which some ladies are subjected to either by their family, spouses or the society at large.

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March 13, 2026, 05:39:40 PM
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Abortion basically depends on the situation. Now, if an abortion is done outside of marriage, it is definitely a serious crime, especially on the basis of religion. And if a child is produced as a result of the union of a husband and wife, then if the husband and wife do not want to have a child, then the doctor may advise an abortion, but that can be on the basis of the legal relationship between the husband and wife. If abortion is legalized, then extramarital relationships will increase even more and serious degradation and chaos will be created in the society. Therefore, aborting a child born as a result of an extramarital relationship is in no way a physical care, but it is a serious stage of social degradation.
Abortion is tantamount to murder, whether it occurs after marriage or after marriage. It's a form of humanity. Those who dare to commit it, why not take responsibility? It could be said that they lose their morals and humanity if they perform an abortion.
However, there are many ways to prevent fertilization for someone who wants to have sex, including using male contraception or birth control pills.

Health reasons? It can be logical if someone is not allowed to become pregnant due to a uterine disorder.

And you are right, the negative impact if this is considered as one of the physical health issues will result in a bad order in society, such as opening the gates to free sex, which should be done after marriage.

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March 14, 2026, 06:36:16 AM
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If I may recall how I understand the definition of abortion the word ' termination of pregnancy ' must be involved because abortion can't take place without pregnancy, if you critically analyzed pregnancy you will arrive at baby which is human whether bug or small elimination of human is murder. From my view to abortion it's purely murder, it's best prevented by taken early antiseptic in order not to conceive at the first place than allowing it to become pregnancy where abortion will take place. Order medium is also available to avoid pregnancy using some contraceptive like condom and many more, failing to make use of this prevention measure and perceived abortion as health care for me seem to be intentional murder though stand to be corrected with better opinion.

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March 14, 2026, 11:25:46 AM
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Why do animals protect their eggs? You know the answers right??
A child forming in the womb is an embryo, like an egg preparing to hatch. They have the right to live, killing them before they completely form into a child is murder. Forget the name "Abortion" is just a word used to justify the action.
When the healthcare should be done, is either abstaining from sex, using protection, or taking medications to avoid getting pregnant.

If you’re citing an example from nature, you should broaden the scope and discuss other scenarios as well—such as when animal parents kill their young due to a lack of food. In the natural world, this is a fairly “natural” process. Can this scenario also be applied to the human world?
The recommendations you’ve provided are genuinely good, and they definitely minimize the risks of unwanted pregnancy. But all of this only works under certain conditions: these methods are available, and the girl has been given information about sex and the need for contraception by her family, school, and church. But what if none of that is there? Is she supposed to “figure it out” on her own, or is she supposed to have a divine revelation? And here’s another good question: shouldn’t a man engaging in sexual relations also be concerned about the safety of the relationship? Does he bear any responsibility?


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March 14, 2026, 10:52:06 PM
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Why do animals protect their eggs? You know the answers right??
A child forming in the womb is an embryo, like an egg preparing to hatch. They have the right to live, killing them before they completely form into a child is murder. Forget the name "Abortion" is just a word used to justify the action.
When the healthcare should be done, is either abstaining from sex, using protection, or taking medications to avoid getting pregnant.

If you’re citing an example from nature, you should broaden the scope and discuss other scenarios as well—such as when animal parents kill their young due to a lack of food. In the natural world, this is a fairly “natural” process. Can this scenario also be applied to the human world?
The recommendations you’ve provided are genuinely good, and they definitely minimize the risks of unwanted pregnancy. But all of this only works under certain conditions: these methods are available, and the girl has been given information about sex and the need for contraception by her family, school, and church. But what if none of that is there? Is she supposed to “figure it out” on her own, or is she supposed to have a divine revelation? And here’s another good question: shouldn’t a man engaging in sexual relations also be concerned about the safety of the relationship? Does he bear any responsibility?

Are you trying to drag people down to the level of mere animals. They aren't mere animals even physically, to say nothing about mentally or spiritually.

God allowed freedom to His people - who believe in Jesus-salvation - but even His people are turning away from Him and His laws in many ways. Why increase the turning away by adding abortion murder to it? Rather, fix society so that there isn't any illegitimate conception.


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Biologically,Life begins at conception then the person emerges later,with consciousness or brain activity.
From a philosophical standpoint, abortion isn’t considered “murder” if the fetus isn’t yet a person in the moral sense.
Acknowledging that abortion is not murder doesn't mean we celebrate it,it means we recognize it with understanding rather than accusations,with compassion rather than condemnation.

Can this perception be supported and realistic to many?
No, it can't.

Using abortion as a contraception rather than a medically necessary tool is inhumane and degenerate, and it rewards people for not being accountable for their actions. Why is this even a debate? If the mother's life is at serious risk, then yes, abortion should be considered; however, the overwhelming majority of abortions are not done because of this but moreso as a contraceptive because people don't wanna be responsible for their actions.

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March 16, 2026, 04:43:39 PM
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Abortion basically depends on the situation. Now, if an abortion is done outside of marriage, it is definitely a serious crime, especially on the basis of religion. And if a child is produced as a result of the union of a husband and wife, then if the husband and wife do not want to have a child, then the doctor may advise an abortion, but that can be on the basis of the legal relationship between the husband and wife. If abortion is legalized, then extramarital relationships will increase even more and serious degradation and chaos will be created in the society. Therefore, aborting a child born as a result of an extramarital relationship is in no way a physical care, but it is a serious stage of social degradation.
The idea of seeing abortion as a situational something is what is getting me confused,  in what way is abortion a good practice when it has to do with taking of lifes.
Secondly, if abortion outside marriage is not acceptable religiously, what then can we say about abortion during marriages when we know both involves taking of innocent lifes.  My dear let us call a spade a spade and not fabricating situations to suit our actions,  on the issue of abortion i will say it is a condemnable action we should never think of getting ourselves involved in be it in marriage or outside marriage as there is no where abortion is a good practice. 

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March 16, 2026, 06:00:40 PM
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its not murder if the foetus is not independent life, much like those elderly people in a coma on life support machines, the closest relative has medical proxy rights over when life support should be removed
This is quite an intelligent answer, if something or someone is not dependent on their own it means that they can face any circumstance at anytime since their well being is dependent on another. However, we can just say that inasmuch as a full-term fetus has not been delivered from the mother's womb, whatever that happens to it while in the womb is not considered a crime. Perhaps, there are fetus that dies in the womb so should a mother be held accountable in such situation? it's only when the child has been brought to the outside world that anything that is being done to harm them will be considered a crime.

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March 17, 2026, 12:32:15 AM
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its not murder if the foetus is not independent life, much like those elderly people in a coma on life support machines, the closest relative has medical proxy rights over when life support should be removed
This is quite an intelligent answer, if something or someone is not dependent on their own it means that they can face any circumstance at anytime since their well being is dependent on another. However, we can just say that inasmuch as a full-term fetus has not been delivered from the mother's womb, whatever that happens to it while in the womb is not considered a crime. Perhaps, there are fetus that dies in the womb so should a mother be held accountable in such situation? it's only when the child has been brought to the outside world that anything that is being done to harm them will be considered a crime.

What is independent life?

Take the healthiest person in the world and stick him in outer space without the warm air of the earth, and without all the other things he needs to live, and guess what happens?

Everything after conception is simply a stage in the life of a human being. And for a while it is simply the lives of two humans tied closely together.

Nature produces a lot of miscarriages in women. But if there were enough care, this number would be reduced... or if it were a perfect world.


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March 17, 2026, 03:10:37 AM
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I have not seen this proven medically that to go into abortion is medically an advantage for us, instead this is being frowned at because people don't like seeing others going into abortion because of the consequences and the risk of life that is associated to it, let's save the unborn generation by having adequate plan for ourselves in other not to go into having unwanted pregnancy to later terminate

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March 17, 2026, 10:35:49 PM
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When we talk about abortion,we’re not just discussing an act;we’re exploring complex realities  health,autonomy,poverty, trauma,and moral responsibility.To call abortion “murder” means that we're ignoring the ethical responsibility and perspective of conscience or compassion.
Across culture and religions,beliefs vary widely even among denomination and many religious leaders/scholars are against it .



people actually see it differently based on their beliefs, culture and personal experiences. Some might agree with your view and see abortion as part of healthcare, especially in situations involving health risks, trauma or difficult life conditions. They believe it’s about choice and compassion.

Others might strongly disagree and believe that life begins at conception, so they see abortion as morally wrong. So, your perspective can be supported and is realistic for many people, but it will always be debated because there is no single view that everyone agrees on. The most important thing is to discuss it with respect and understanding for different opinions.
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When we talk about abortion,we’re not just discussing an act;we’re exploring complex realities  health,autonomy,poverty, trauma,and moral responsibility.To call abortion “murder” means that we're ignoring the ethical responsibility and perspective of conscience or compassion.
Across culture and religions,beliefs vary widely even among denomination and many religious leaders/scholars are against it .



people actually see it differently based on their beliefs, culture and personal experiences. Some might agree with your view and see abortion as part of healthcare, especially in situations involving health risks, trauma or difficult life conditions. They believe it’s about choice and compassion.

Others might strongly disagree and believe that life begins at conception, so they see abortion as morally wrong. So, your perspective can be supported and is realistic for many people, but it will always be debated because there is no single view that everyone agrees on. The most important thing is to discuss it with respect and understanding for different opinions.


If you can legally and lawfully make it right to kill off people when they are in their weakest state, when will somebody make it legal and lawful to kill off people at every stage of their life?


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March 20, 2026, 08:29:16 AM
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I agree that abortion is healthcare and nothing more.  This is because the population Of people in the world is too much, and therefore needs to be reduced.  I am not saying this because I want to be bias, but I am saying this because lots of people are suffering and it’s only because the people who brought them into this world are not financially buoyant enough to take care of them.  The children will end up begging on the streets at early age, and the days things get more difficult, they will have no choice but to steal and after stealing, they will graduate into armed robbers who constitute nuisance in the society.

However, when one gets pregnant, and there is not finance to be able to take care of that baby, it is good that the pregnancy should be terminated ,and this cannot be called murder.
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March 20, 2026, 09:46:11 AM
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I agree that abortion is healthcare and nothing more.  This is because the population Of people in the world is too much, and therefore needs to be reduced.
We should be planning on expanding humanity's presence in space PRECISELY for this reason but no, let's keep funding forever wars so that the elitist rats can profit off of our suffering. And no, abortion is NOT healthcare simply because it isn't being used as healthcare but rather as a contraceptive because people can't be asked to take responsibility for bringing life into this world.

You saying that abortion is a method for depopulation says a lot more than you think.....

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March 20, 2026, 10:28:06 AM
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Biologically,Life begins at conception then the person emerges later,with consciousness or brain activity.
From a philosophical standpoint, abortion isn’t considered “murder” if the fetus isn’t yet a person in the moral sense.
Acknowledging that abortion is not murder doesn't mean we celebrate it,it means we recognize it with understanding rather than accusations,with compassion rather than condemnation.

Can this perception be supported and realistic to many?


The topic of abortion means different things to different people and country depending on the law guiding abortion. I believe there are different types of abortion depending on the circumstances in the pregnancy. So it could be intentional by the party involved or done because of pregnancy complications. For instance, there are some complications in a pregnancy that is life threatening to the woman, I believe to safe the life of the woman, such abortion can be recommended and I don't think that will be a crime.

I believe abortion is not suppose to be a means of birth control or to depopulate the country. There are different means for protected sex rather than intentionally getting pregnant and aborting it.

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March 21, 2026, 05:48:53 AM
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Having an intercourse is not for singles, instead it is intended for the married, so why are the young youth of nowadays engaging themselves into unnecessary premarital sex and having pregnancy they cannot claim someone to be responsible for, I see abortion as a way of taking shame and reproach a way in order not to be well disappointed in one's self, after the partner as successfully rejected being responsible for such pregnancy.

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March 21, 2026, 12:18:05 PM
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Well this can be seen on two different perspectives, abortion can be seen as healthcare when it becomes life threatening, like Ectopic pregnancy, complications and most of the time I've seen where medical practitioners carriers out an abortion especially when the patient isn't fit physically or mentally so to save the life of that woman, abortion is been carried out. So for Health practitioners the safety of the patient comes first, saving lives is necessary.

While for others they believe every child has the right to live and truly life begins at conception so no matter the circumstance that surrounds the conception of that child, it's wrong to murder that life, and this part can be related to how people see things generally, like their beliefs, tradition and culture.

A friend of mine had complications and that surgical operation was carried out cos her life needed to be saved, medically abortion is not murder because safety of the patient comes before anything else! But mortally Abortion is murder because I believe before conception takes place the two individuals involved knows already the outcomes of that action if preventive measures is not talking, so taking away that life is murder.
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March 21, 2026, 02:13:06 PM
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^^^ When one considers what percent of abortions are medical necessities, what is that percent of all abortions?


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March 21, 2026, 02:36:18 PM
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Having an intercourse is not for singles, instead it is intended for the married, so why are the young youth of nowadays engaging themselves into unnecessary premarital sex and having pregnancy they cannot claim someone to be responsible for, I see abortion as a way of taking shame and reproach a way in order not to be well disappointed in one's self, after the partner as successfully rejected being responsible for such pregnancy.

Though, you are wrongly assiming all cases of unwanted pregnancy end up with the man not taking responsibility for the child and abandoning the woman. That is not always the case, actually there are many instances of partners which continue to be together, even though they are not married and decide to take care of their child.

That you are describing is rather a generalization of the worst case scenario which invested pregnancy can bring upon a couple.

 

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