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BlackHatCoiner (OP)
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November 18, 2025, 07:02:22 PM
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You think you're winning.

You think your little green candles are signs from God.

You think your sacred Fibonacci spirals are proof you're chosen.

But deep down you know:
you're not trading the market;
you're trading emotions on your own delusion.

You call yourself a "risk manager."

Meanwhile, you can't even manage your sleep schedule.

You're two liquidations away from spiritual awakening, and three Red Bulls away from medical emergency.

You don't have a strategy.

You have impulses. Dopamine dependency wrapped in TradingView aesthetics.

You think you'll quit after the next win.

Spoiler alert: You won't.

Because you're not addicted to profit. You're addicted to "almost winning."

Reality is that you can't find a strategy that consistently wins. Not because you're dumber than other traders.

Because it's a rigged game.

If your strategy is too good, then either the broker will try to liquidate you through market manipulations.
Or he will copy-trade it against some other broker, until the other broker does the above.

The only winning trade is ego for satoshis.

Send this to a trader, and say nothing.

They'll understand.

 
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November 18, 2025, 07:13:03 PM
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I would have love to send this to a trader as say nothing but it seem to me that it’s becoming over exaggerated with the idea that bitcoin shouldn’t be traded or traders are doing themselves bad, just the mere fact that we love bitcoin and investing, holding while our profit makes it way in the long run doesn’t make us perfect either, different opinions or options should exist in the bitcoin world, to traders in the room as long as it makes you happy do it. But then always have it in mind it’s all gamble.

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November 18, 2025, 07:39:16 PM
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Wow this is a wonderful masterpiece. Are you an Artist or something ? Because You're really good.
I think I have come across some of your writings and I have been impressed so far, I can't help but let you know about how I feel.

This is just the sad truth about trading that traders won't agree to.

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November 18, 2025, 07:48:51 PM
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Wow this is a wonderful masterpiece. Are you an Artist or something ? Because You're really good.
I'm an artist, yes. It's the art of humiliating no-coiners, altcoiners, traders, fiaters and anyone with an attention span smaller than one transaction confirmation.

 
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November 18, 2025, 08:07:02 PM
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I would have love to send this to a trader as say nothing but it seem to me that it’s becoming over exaggerated with the idea that bitcoin shouldn’t be traded or traders are doing themselves bad, just the mere fact that we love bitcoin and investing, holding while our profit makes it way in the long run doesn’t make us perfect either, different opinions or options should exist in the bitcoin world, to traders in the room as long as it makes you happy do it. But then always have it in mind it’s all gamble.
Op made a triggering post, so I suggest don't send it to someone who is positive, energetic and already motivated and making profit, in short don't send this to any professional trader haha they will bash you hard haha if they are friends then even harder haha.

Bro this post is a motivating one and there is no doubt that trading and holding bitcoin is two different things and traders and holders also have different mindsets, but traders are more energetic risk takers, they believe in doing it, while holders have to build a mindset that makes them calm and have some patience on their investment over the long period.

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November 18, 2025, 08:50:10 PM
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A trader will also read it and say nothing to you because your opinion only counts for you and maybe to other traders but perhaps not to the reader who believes that his experiences so far has been marvelous. Not that he didn't know that there won't be riggings and manipulations, not that he doesn't have "heart racing" at times, not that he might not be a victim to some of what you have written, but he is persistent and choose to be persistent because he has had both good and bad experiences, he has won many times and have achieved a something great from his winning, and yet he still have a great goal that he is targeting to achieve and doesn't care what it cost, so why would he also read this and say something when he has a goal that says' "if I perish, I perish."


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November 18, 2025, 09:01:16 PM
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Lol, traders reading this might mind it, but I loved reading through it, and I know it's all true, especially in the case of traders who are new in the market but think they are going to make it big only because they made a few initial trades and they all went profitable, and now they think that they've conquered the market, or at least will do it if they continue in the same path. Little do they know is that they didn't conquer the market, but that was only a small gesture from the market to make them believe, until the time comes when they are shaken by the same market.

Experienced and wise traders are different, they know all these things already, and they don't live under the trees of dreams and expect all their dreams to come true, but they go by logic and understanding, and they know the market is not anyone's well-wisher, and if it's blessing you today, it can ruin you tomorrow, so they got to be careful from it.

Real traders have different characteristics.

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November 18, 2025, 09:11:27 PM
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This tells the story of most traders who actually believe they know the market.
Not until a loss, and the fears behind those trusted strategies uncover and it becomes more difficult than usual.

This piece is mind blowing and it tells what most people fear the most which is accepting the fact that knowing the strategy is not enough and studying the market is not also enough.

Losing is inevitable and recovering is not always assured. That slightest fear of disbelief and hopelessness haunts the mind of most traders.
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November 18, 2025, 09:57:08 PM
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Thats a hard hitting post BHC! I think some will get a wake up call from that. The 100x
traders really need to take note.

I cannot take it personally because I consider myself a Bitcoiner and on your side.

But I have been there before myself not a 100x merchant!, done that and lost, not much
but enough to make me realise the above before I potentially lost it all.


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November 18, 2025, 09:57:30 PM
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You think your sacred Fibonacci spirals are proof you're chosen.

But deep down you know:
you're not trading the market;
you're trading emotions on your own delusion.

You call yourself a "risk manager."

Meanwhile, you can't even manage your sleep schedule.

You're two liquidations away from spiritual awakening, and three Red Bulls away from medical emergency.

You don't have a strategy.

You have impulses. Dopamine dependency wrapped in TradingView aesthetics.

You think you'll quit after the next win.

This is the real scene that everybodies (not only tradets) refuse to admit. I wasn't mistaken when I stood firm on my position that trading is another gambling like practice. Does there a winning strategy in gambling? No. Does the good luck means a winning strategy? Of vourse not. Is it possible to teach/learn strategy courses in gambling/trading? Absolutely not and if you find any, it's another way to scam you money.
Why traders ignore those facts? Well, the answer maybe a little harsh. Usually those who spend time trading are non-profoctive people who are jobless or have a routine job that generate a tiny fixed income. They usually haven't the potential to create opportunities or to exploit their skills or creatives. All they want to invest in is their time to do nothing behind the screen. If he admitted those facts, he admits automatically he is a loser person that there is no need for him.

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November 18, 2025, 10:26:24 PM
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I've always seen trading as a gamble on emotional stability and a sabotage of other productive activities majorly from my experience in 2022 when I tried venturing into it and almost lost my job from lack of concentration and low productivity from the emotional instability and distraction I incurred watching charts at a time I should be focusing more and giving my best to remain productive.

I learned the hard way as most people did and since then I couldn't appreciate stacking sats any less. You're right BHC, trading is more of emotional betting than actual profitable vehicle.

 
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November 18, 2025, 11:07:57 PM
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Why am I feeling some kind of guilt even if I’m not actively trading but feeling like so. This is a very strong message that anyone with the right mindset towards bitcoin will not want to be entangled in. Market manipulations are there, and we can’t deny the fact that the brokers are not happy when we are winning and will do anything for you to get liquidated. It’s all mind games though, but the profit is what every trader is attracted to and gets themselves more attached to trading even if the red flags are obvious that we are being cheated on most times with their manipulation games.











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November 18, 2025, 11:33:55 PM
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Some of your threads in recent weeks I read quite often and indeed the goal is quite right on target especially for this thread Cheesy
Even though for now I don't want to question anyone who wants to be in the trade because that's the decision they want to do but honestly I'm a little emotional when there are some traders who are still my own colleagues who always make fun of the investments I make just because they feel profitable because of their trading and consider my long struggle in vain because bitcoin has corrected.

But on the one hand they do not realize their condition which is indeed being threatened even they have felt a much worse loss in the previous decline. But traders like this sometimes need to be given further understanding because they always feel they are winning just because they can get multiple profits from the trades they make but do not realize the losses they have felt before.
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November 18, 2025, 11:39:04 PM
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There can never be an %100 winning strategy for the common man.
Always on the hunt to get his/her share of profit from those in control.
Hoping your broker doesn't mess up your trade.
In a pursuit to break out of a system and be ones boss,
They see themselves getting locked in another system.
Stating if they never give up they will win someday.
But this is never always the case.
Even in the pursuit of having an higher win ratio,
Many falls into a state of addiction.
But still do not see it as being one.
Bankruptcy slowly creeps in.
Who will save you?
No one.
You are all by yourself.
And then you hopefully will see it clearly,
It's time to move on.
Think of something else.
HODL.
Learn.
Earn.
Keep HODLing,
Years later it will be alright and better.

Wow this is a wonderful masterpiece. Are you an Artist or something ? Because You're really good.
I'm an artist, yes. It's the art of humiliating no-coiners, altcoiners, traders, fiaters and anyone with an attention span smaller than one transaction confirmation.
The combination of science, social science and arts makes the beauty.

 
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November 19, 2025, 12:54:38 AM
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Reality is that you can't find a strategy that consistently wins. Not because you're dumber than other traders.

Because it's a rigged game.

If your strategy is too good, then either the broker will try to liquidate you through market manipulations.
Or he will copy-trade it against some other broker, until the other broker does the above.

The only winning trade is ego for satoshis.

Send this to a trader, and say nothing.

They'll understand.


All being told is the reality about the traders psychological behaviors. Infact, the effect of the market manipulation when you are trying to hit the green lights can be as tormenting as the reality unrest of the minds like that of a pure gambler who is treating gambling as a source of income with all the risks of the uncertainty.
When you opens a stake or trade of an unpredictability event and you finds out there is no reliable strategy or prediction bot to rely your predictions on, the skepticism will always turn every of your times nightmare and while you are lucky to win today, every other time you will place trade will always keep you doubting your decisions.
So to beat that challenge is to buy your bitcoin and hold in not less than a complete cycle event by holding for a long term an investor.

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November 19, 2025, 01:43:02 AM
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There is where gambling and trading cross paths. Weird as it may sound, both should be for fun, not for profit. Both should involve amounts one can afford to lose and not money that's intended for something else. Just like gambling, if you're trading chasing money, you're more likely losing than winning. If you don't have much influence in the market, you're probably better off working somewhere for a stable income, DCA Bitcoin with your extra, and hodl.

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The man just sounded like giving a full sermon that hits right through the spot where retail traders hurts the most when the "almost" winning didn't materialized.

This is actually a reality and many traders hates to admit it. Just like how gambling addicts, that feeling that you almost have a huge win is what makes you gamble more as dopamine level rises. But nah nobody's winning at the latter.

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Sometimes Bitcoin trading is just far beyond what we can just assume to be the same as others thought of, some traders think it's by how far, but they have forgetton that it only take luck to made it in with the market, because sometimes the analysis we make failed and everything turned the opposite, but still yet, we made it in unexplained, which should signal something to us that it's just beyond our capacity, but luck to understand how bitcoin is or moves.

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November 19, 2025, 03:32:46 AM
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Sometimes Bitcoin trading is just far beyond what we can just assume to be the same as others thought of, some traders think it's by how far, but they have forgetton that it only take luck to made it in with the market, because sometimes the analysis we make failed and everything turned the opposite, but still yet, we made it in unexplained, which should signal something to us that it's just beyond our capacity, but luck to understand how bitcoin is or moves.
Someone that have the knowledge of bitcoin will not be surprise when he or she begin to see wonders from bitcoin, bitcoin is always full with wonders in the bearish season and bullish season, bearish market is the time majority of traders buy and hold for bullish to come for holders to experience wonders in income earning, this is a risk some investors or traders are avoiding from bitcoin because is unpredictable coin to anybody, but the most favourable part of bitcoin it don't disappear like other cryptocurrencies,  we know that bitcoin move faster during the bullish season which is the cause of green candle because that is what make traders to take decisions that will eliminate doubt toward bitcoin.

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November 19, 2025, 03:48:20 AM
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Okay bro I get it. With all that, I think I’m done with day trading for now. And guess what I’m gonna do… I’ll just buy and HOLD. Keep things simple. Same as life, if you want to be happy, don’t overcomplicate things. In the end that strategy has already proven to be profitable anyway, so why make life harder? When we trade, the exchanges are the only ones making consistent money from fees. We traders go up and down… they’re always up.

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