How can a scammer even get that many merits anyway?

[Brahmahatyaa]

Straight up, FirmWars is getting a bunch of merit after making drama. Maybe some people giving him merit don’t even realize he’s one of the scammers already tagged by @lovesmayfamilis.

FirmWars

Code:

0xb94278E9F2425EE139011d2E67d293BE14406130

Refrumatrix

Code:

0x6b9C331b5a17562Ac9c05c583631774aEF203b87

#Proof Of Registration
Bitcointalk Username: FirmWars
Bitcointalk Rank: Member
Bitcointalk Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3444699
Current post count: 165
BSC - BEP20 wallet address: 0xb94278E9F2425EE139011d2E67d293BE14406130

Bitcointalk username: Refrumatrix
Link to Bitcointalk profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2814604
Name of campaign(s): Signature Campaign
BEP-20 wallet address: 0x6b9C331b5a17562Ac9c05c583631774aEF203b87

0x6b9C331b5a17562Ac9c05c583631774aEF203b87 send BNB to 0xb94278E9F2425EE139011d2E67d293BE14406130

https://bscscan.com/address/0xb94278e9f2425ee139011d2e67d293be14406130

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/11/21/UPBJmm.jpeg

In fact, everything is much more serious and extensive.
This is an old farm I discovered earlier.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5319507.msg56419203#msg56419203

They have changed some of their actions, but they are all well traceable.
Merits are transferred only to their alternative accounts.
Most posts are now written in topics about mining.

Notice how they share merits.

Gorosden     May 30, 2020, 03:11:11 PM
FloridaKid     May 30, 2020, 06:50:22 PM
Ceyflix-Rez     June 01, 2020, 10:22:22 PM
Skinny48     June 01, 2020, 04:36:11 PM
Zotak337     June 02, 2020, 06:20:05 PM
Refrumatrix     June 02, 2020, 05:21:11 PM
Synerggy     June 02, 2020, 08:41:23 PM
Looper_U     June 02, 2020, 09:01:46 PM
BitKongy     June 02, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
Bravehash     February 24, 2021, 11:02:46 PM
CryptoATM     February 26, 2021, 11:19:29 AM
HashingTower     February 27, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
CrossroadBTC     February 27, 2021, 06:41:59 PM
MCcryptonia     March 02, 2021, 11:42:11 PM
TheMimic1     March 02, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
Williamm07     March 02, 2021, 11:32:42 PM
HardCore12V     March 08, 2021, 12:16:04 PM
XUR_TIP     March 08, 2021, 12:07:47 PM
7deadlyBTCIN     March 29, 2021, 11:09:45 AM
LostEcho     March 31, 2021, 11:42:46 PM

Most of them participate in the signature of the company.

I kinda suspect the FirmWars account got sold or changed hands. He just changed his email and password.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3444699
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3444699

[rohang]

Certainly looks like they traded/sold that account to participate in signature campaigns.

Attaching image for record-

[Amphenomenon]

I kinda suspect the FirmWars account got sold or changed hands. He just changed his email and password.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3444699
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3444699

Most of the merit earned were in the same 2023 he got caught. Anyway, it's more likely the account changed hands and ironically the new owner might not be aware of it past records, especially since there's any tagged on the account 

By the way I think the account is still for farming looking at the merits earned and the thread it came from...

[yahoo62278]

The account has earned 3 merits in the last 120 days, not sure what your issue is here? The merits they have earned are from awhile ago and the account has no tags that I can see. None of any kind positive, negative, or neutral. Maybe I am missing something. If all those accounts are suspected to be in a farm, then more investigation is needed and tags will be handed out to cheaters.

I am sure the accounts will be looked at again after this post.

[FirmWars]

Why would you start your thread by referring to me as a scammer? I'm already annoyed by that but I blame the forum, it's now a ground where anyone can falsely come up with unsubstantiated accusations and refer to another member with what ever they like to, nonsense.

My account has a dummy email which I was never moved to change it because I believed I had a tight security on my phone but lately I feel threatened by some external factors and I had to change the password to some of my relevant accounts on the internet space, I also had to change my password and the dummy email on this forum, how is that a problem @Brahmahatyaa?

So, receiving merit is now a problem on Bitcointalk community? What's all the stupid stance?

[Hazink]

and the account has no tags that I can see. None of any kind positive, negative, or neutral. Maybe I am missing something. If all those accounts are suspected to be in a farm, then more investigation is needed and tags will be handed out to cheaters.

If I understand correctly, what the op is referring to, it is that the @Refrumatrix whose wallet address is linked to the firmwars account has already been tagged with many other accounts which have been confirmed to be found guilty of cheating in one way or the other in the forum, so I assume the op is expecting firmwars account to be treated the same way as @Refrumatrix

[yahoo62278]

and the account has no tags that I can see. None of any kind positive, negative, or neutral. Maybe I am missing something. If all those accounts are suspected to be in a farm, then more investigation is needed and tags will be handed out to cheaters.

If I understand correctly, what the op is referring to, it is that the @Refrumatrix whose wallet address is linked to the firmwars account has already been tagged with many other accounts which have been confirmed to be found guilty of cheating in one way or the other in the forum, so I assume the op is expecting firmwars account to be treated the same way as @Refrumatrix

I get that but the OP should recognize that the alt connection may not have been known before merits were being earned and noone has tagged them to this point either, so why would people refrain from meriting the account is why I am confused.

[KingsDen]

and the account has no tags that I can see. None of any kind positive, negative, or neutral. Maybe I am missing something. If all those accounts are suspected to be in a farm, then more investigation is needed and tags will be handed out to cheaters.

If I understand correctly, what the op is referring to, it is that the @Refrumatrix whose wallet address is linked to the firmwars account has already been tagged with many other accounts which have been confirmed to be found guilty of cheating in one way or the other in the forum, so I assume the op is expecting firmwars account to be treated the same way as @Refrumatrix

I get that but the OP should recognize that the alt connection may not have been known before merits were being earned and noone has tagged them to this point either, so why would people refrain from meriting the account is why I am confused.

Op's problem wasn't about the merits they earned, or the connections made by Lovesmayfamilis. Op just wanted people to look into the account and see if they can see fishy things in the account. Maybe, his plan is going to work or not.

[hugeblack]

Op's problem wasn't about the merits they earned, or the connections made by Lovesmayfamilis. Op just wanted people to look into the account and see if they can see fishy things in the account. Maybe, his plan is going to work or not.

It is difficult to check every account trust before sending Merits, especially if it is a high-quality post (something that rarely happens from spammers).

Therefore, as long as the member makes good posts, it is fine to receive merits.
Merit sources can be alerted by creating such topics (to add them to their ignore list.)

[mirakal]

Therefore, as long as the member makes good posts, it is fine to receive merits.

That’s really the purpose of merit.. it’s given for quality posts. Even if someone is a scammer, if his post isn’t related to what he did and it actually helps the community, he can still get merits. But honestly, it’s not a big deal. Merits might just giveaways from other users. We can’t keep them forever, and sometimes even a very helpful post won’t get any merit at all.

People only see merit as “valuable” now because it increases your chances of getting into signature campaigns, but it shouldn’t affect someone’s reputation. Even with rankings, there are lower-rank users who are more reputable than higher-rank users, and plenty of lower ranks who make better posts than some higher ranks.

my 2 cents.

[Brahmahatyaa]

Why would you start your thread by referring to me as a scammer? I'm already annoyed by that but I blame the forum, it's now a ground where anyone can falsely come up with unsubstantiated accusations and refer to another member with what ever they like to, nonsense.

Is the evidence I gave still not clear enough?
If you’re not one of them, then why was your wallet address funded by Refrumatrix 3 years ago?”

So, receiving merit is now a problem on Bitcointalk community? What's all the stupid stance?

The merit system is not wrong but farming is a big problem and is the same as abusing the merit system.

and the account has no tags that I can see. None of any kind positive, negative, or neutral. Maybe I am missing something. If all those accounts are suspected to be in a farm, then more investigation is needed and tags will be handed out to cheaters.

If I understand correctly, what the op is referring to, it is that the @Refrumatrix whose wallet address is linked to the firmwars account has already been tagged with many other accounts which have been confirmed to be found guilty of cheating in one way or the other in the forum, so I assume the op is expecting firmwars account to be treated the same way as @Refrumatrix

I get that but the OP should recognize that the alt connection may not have been known before merits were being earned and noone has tagged them to this point either, so why would people refrain from meriting the account is why I am confused.

Op's problem wasn't about the merits they earned, or the connections made by Lovesmayfamilis. Op just wanted people to look into the account and see if they can see fishy things in the account. Maybe, his plan is going to work or not.

Thank you for explaining in detail. I still suspect something strange about that account. It's not proven yet, but I'll look into it more deeply someday.

[The Cryptovator]

If the topic title about earning merit is a concern for you, then your post doesn't add value here. Because the account in question doesn't have any feedback on the profile. Out of the merit abuse, anyone could earn merits. Because the post deserves merit, not the person. Even a lot of boards don't show the trust rating on the user profile, and it isn't necessary to check each user profile before sending merits. If a scammer made a post that adds value on the forum and someone thinks it's useful, then anyone could send merits.

If you are concerned about connected accounts, then you have to changed the title and provided more evidence. If there is clear evidence of abusing the trust system or cheating any signature campaign by breaking their campaign rules, then you need to clear it on your post. You raise questions regarding merits, but your post content seems to regard alt accounts. Cashing out funds to the same address and not abuse the campaign doesn't means they are scammers.

[Quickseller]

Merit is intended to be given for good posts, not for posts of truthworthy people. So if someone is a scammer who makes good/interesting posts, they should receive merit.

[FirmWars]

Why would you start your thread by referring to me as a scammer? I'm already annoyed by that but I blame the forum, it's now a ground where anyone can falsely come up with unsubstantiated accusations and refer to another member with what ever they like to, nonsense.

Is the evidence I gave still not clear enough?
If you’re not one of them, then why was your wallet address funded by Refrumatrix 3 years ago?”

The merit system is not wrong but farming is a big problem and is the same as abusing the merit system.

Thank you for explaining in detail. I still suspect something strange about that account. It's not proven yet, but I'll look into it more deeply someday.

You even checked how long Refrumatrix sent that small BNB, and you are still too dumb to know that begging for a little BNB fee has never been a problem. Merit begging is frowned on, I get that rule, but is there any rule that says begging for a small BNB is frowned on? Don't insult me to make a point, calling me a scammer is an insult, and you can make your point without insulting me. If you start with such an insult next time, I will keep you silent because that is the best reply to a fool. I'm giving you a free ticket for your journey, you can call it a toll gate to FirmWars' farm city?

[coupable]

Why would you start your thread by referring to me as a scammer? I'm already annoyed by that but I blame the forum, it's now a ground where anyone can falsely come up with unsubstantiated accusations and refer to another member with what ever they like to, nonsense.

Is the evidence I gave still not clear enough?
If you’re not one of them, then why was your wallet address funded by Refrumatrix 3 years ago?”

Does this mean if i make a tranaction with another forum user, that i have to explain it to you whenever you find the transaction? You should start suspect all connections between forum users because i am sure you will find transactions worth billions of dollars not a tiny bnb amount.

You don't have a valid reason in all what you wrote above and FirmWars has the right to ignore all your accusations because they are INVALID. Thanks to him that he is still answering you like he is defending himself. At least you can develop your argument politely.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Trying to find every account that belongs to a farm is like looking for a needle in a haystack. The accusations against the Refrumatrix are nearly four years old and FirmWars hasn’t done anything recently raise suspicions and start digging through their history.

The account might have been part of the farm and was later sold off when the owner realized it still had some value since it didn’t get tagged.

Does this mean if i make a tranaction with another forum user, that i have to explain it to you whenever you find the transaction? You should start suspect all connections between forum users because i am sure you will find transactions worth billions of dollars not a tiny bnb amount.

Refrumatrix is tied to several farms with dozens of accounts. If your wallet was initially funded by somebody with red tags who is also transferring gas between all of their alts’ wallets, that would look awfully strange. I’m not sure people would still care after so many years, but if it was discovered in the moment you would need a really good explanation to avoid getting tagged also.

[nutildah]

Merit is intended to be given for good posts, not for posts of truthworthy people. So if someone is a scammer who makes good/interesting posts, they should receive merit.

I don't give merits to accounts I know to be untrustworthy. That would be helping them, which would be counterproductive. So no, they shouldn't receive merit.

Does this mean if i make a tranaction with another forum user, that i have to explain it to you whenever you find the transaction? You should start suspect all connections between forum users because i am sure you will find transactions worth billions of dollars not a tiny bnb amount.

The evidence should be more thorough than mentioning a single send. It should be accompanied by context that suggests it was made by an alt account. For instance, casual sends across random times might suggest honest exchange; whereas a series of sends in rapid succession (minutes or seconds apart) suggest coordinated sends by alt accounts.

I have not looked at this particular case in much detail yet but I will tomorrow.

Refrumatrix is tied to several farms with dozens of accounts. If your wallet was initially funded by somebody with red tags who is also transferring gas between all of their alts’ wallets, that would look awfully strange. I’m not sure people would still care after so many years, but if it was discovered in the moment you would need a really good explanation to avoid getting tagged also.

To simplify matters I've taken the following stance: you are always responsible for the actions of your account -- even if you don't own it anymore, even if you just bought it. Quite often people insist on pretending they are the original owner of an account up until the point it is revealed the account had committed wrongdoings. Then they just kind of shut up.    As a matter of fact, its never gone any other way.

[coupable]

Does this mean if i make a tranaction with another forum user, that i have to explain it to you whenever you find the transaction? You should start suspect all connections between forum users because i am sure you will find transactions worth billions of dollars not a tiny bnb amount.

Refrumatrix is tied to several farms with dozens of accounts. If your wallet was initially funded by somebody with red tags who is also transferring gas between all of their alts’ wallets, that would look awfully strange. I’m not sure people would still care after so many years, but if it was discovered in the moment you would need a really good explanation to avoid getting tagged also.

I still don't see this as a valid reason to ask someone about a single transaction or to tag the account. If there was several transactions plus other evidences of connection (merit exchange, writing style...), i think he would need a really good explanation. But for one transaction that happened time ago, i don't think we have the right to blame him if he ignores the question and gives no answer.
Here i am talking about the issue from a general perspective not particularly about the case in Op. Other users are already investigating.