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November 24, 2025, 01:43:47 AM
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Those who have basic knowledge about Bitcoin know what the dynamics of Bitcoin will be like. A decrease in price does not mean that Bitcoin is gone. We know that the price of Bitcoin increases in the long term. Again, even if it decreases in the short term, it starts increasing again after a period of time. However, those who do not know about Bitcoin will say that Bitcoin is gone, it will not exist. Again, if those who expect to buy when the price drops are told that the price has dropped, buy now, then they will say that they do not want to lose money by investing here. Such people are not investors. They are critics.

Differences of opinion are common, especially when the market corrects beyond expectations and the percentage is high when considering the decline. It's important to remember the basic rules of investing is first, don't let your money disappear foolishly. Second, don't forget rule number 1 above.

Furthermore, yesterday's correction wasn't a coincidence. It was indeed the time for a correction, and no matter how enthusiastic our comments, the situation will always be like that. What's interesting to note is the shift in BTC ownership, which is usually categorized into three groups is whales, non-whales, and miners. Their pattern is when prices are high whales distribute when prices drop and retailers want to buy at a discount.

If you'd like to read more, you can see this link: https://river.com/learn/who-owns-the-most-bitcoin/ and as another illustration, you can also see this even though it was posted 2 years ago https://coinvestasi.com/berita/fakta-mengejutkan-ternyata-bitcoin-tidak-dikuasai-cukong.

Everyone here, let's make the most of this situation. Don't make rash decisions about rotating your BTC into coins that haven't performed yet. Always monitor the charts, dominance, and market signals, because winners are always winners, and weak hands are always weak.

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November 24, 2025, 06:31:02 AM
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The holiday season is just starting so I can’t blame anybody who is tempted to sell so they can buy something they really want for themselves or somebody they care about. Everyone is free to do what they want with their savings. Bitcoin is likely to recover and might go up by a lot so I wouldn’t consider selling just because everyone is feeling pessimistic over the current price action. Investments should be made without letting our emotions get the best of us and making rash decisions.

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November 24, 2025, 07:33:54 AM
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The holiday season is just starting so I can’t blame anybody who is tempted to sell so they can buy something they really want for themselves or somebody they care about. Everyone is free to do what they want with their savings. Bitcoin is likely to recover and might go up by a lot so I wouldn’t consider selling just because everyone is feeling pessimistic over the current price action. Investments should be made without letting our emotions get the best of us and making rash decisions.

That's a good position to take.

We shouldn't be influenced by others, even it's hard not to follow the crowd when the sentiment is like that.

We are on our own deciding what to do with our coins.
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November 24, 2025, 08:27:23 AM
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Bitcoin is struggling right now and everyone is tempted to sell, I bet. A few are probably thinking that this might be the end of bitcoin. But let’s take a deep dive into the past.

The point of opening historical data is that when a decline occurs it can make people think that it is a normal thing and will not make this situation continue like this.
The long term always means something and you always get something more than you think.
Another benefit of being willing to open historical price data can strengthen people from panic. If you are tempted to sell, it is a total mistake because selling in the midst of a declining market is the same as throwing away the opportunity to make a profit. The decline should be when accumulating Bitcoin, not selling.

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November 24, 2025, 09:04:56 AM
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The holiday season is just starting so I can’t blame anybody who is tempted to sell so they can buy something they really want for themselves or somebody they care about. Everyone is free to do what they want with their savings. Bitcoin is likely to recover and might go up by a lot so I wouldn’t consider selling just because everyone is feeling pessimistic over the current price action. Investments should be made without letting our emotions get the best of us and making rash decisions.

That's a good position to take.

We shouldn't be influenced by others, even it's hard not to follow the crowd when the sentiment is like that.

We are on our own deciding what to do with our coins.

Yes, we should be the one deciding when to sell and not to. But there could be some that is definitely wanting to sell at the holidays. Maybe they want this holiday to be something special and so regardless of the situation, they will go and offload some of their Bitcoin.

But if we talk about delayed gratification, then we won't sell any and will just wait again in the next cycle. It's about our battle whether to enjoy right now or not. But I will say that I will continue to stack sats no matter what the condition is.


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November 24, 2025, 10:37:59 AM
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The holiday season is just starting so I can’t blame anybody who is tempted to sell so they can buy something they really want for themselves or somebody they care about. Everyone is free to do what they want with their savings. Bitcoin is likely to recover and might go up by a lot so I wouldn’t consider selling just because everyone is feeling pessimistic over the current price action. Investments should be made without letting our emotions get the best of us and making rash decisions.

That's a good position to take.

We shouldn't be influenced by others, even it's hard not to follow the crowd when the sentiment is like that.

We are on our own deciding what to do with our coins.

Yes, we should be the one deciding when to sell and not to. But there could be some that is definitely wanting to sell at the holidays. Maybe they want this holiday to be something special and so regardless of the situation, they will go and offload some of their Bitcoin.

But if we talk about delayed gratification, then we won't sell any and will just wait again in the next cycle. It's about our battle whether to enjoy right now or not. But I will say that I will continue to stack sats no matter what the condition is.

I’m also going to hold on to my savings for now. I hope that the current drop is just a bear trap. I’m doing this because, besides this untouchable investment, I have another source for holiday gifts. But if someone’s financial situation is different and their holiday budget planning works out differently, then why not get something out of your investments and use them during the holidays, even if the current selling price isn’t the best?

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November 24, 2025, 10:41:30 AM
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Bitcoin is struggling right now and everyone is tempted to sell, I bet. A few are probably thinking that this might be the end of bitcoin. But let’s take a deep dive into the past.

We are used to it already, except for the newbies who couldn't understand the necessary things to do in times like this, when the market falls, you buy the dip and maintain your holding position, its actually an avenue for others to come in as well as they finds it more affordable to enter and buy, while for others already in it to maintain holding, history will always remember itself and be repeated.

Times such as this is where you get your find the feathered cap veterans being indisposed as against the newbies that becomes too emotional on every drop of a candle on the charts.
Bitcoin always seems to play on your emotions should you become way too concerned with the charts in times like this. Best thing to do, just buy if you will and leave the charts be. Constantly going over the chart just to see what behavior price is having could prove troubling for weak hands. Those of us to have seen several seasons just don’t care. You just take comfort in the fact that, it would go up in due time and that alone is good enough to have you stay a position.

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November 24, 2025, 04:30:41 PM
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This thread is very important for the newbies who are already in panic maybe they lack the needed information about the fluctuations of Bitcoin prices for the years back.i must appreciate this pieces of information,it will serve as a big relief and to have a good relaxed mind to deal with there Bitcoin investment to avoid panic sells.
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November 24, 2025, 05:42:28 PM
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Bitcoin is struggling right now and everyone is tempted to sell, I bet. A few are probably thinking that this might be the end of bitcoin. But let’s take a deep dive into the past.

Bitcoin in 2010 never reached a $1. The next year, 2011, bitcoin reached almost close to $30. Bitcoin in 2012 peaked at $13 just before the year ended.

The first halving happened the month before in year 2012. Not even 5 years into its creation, bitcoin reaches $1000 in 2013.

Bitcoin fell during 2014. 10 years ago, 2015, bitcoin’s highest price was only around $400. Bitcoin had a slow appreciation in 2016 but eventually reached $1000 by end of the year.

2017 changed a lot of people’s lives with bitcoin reaching a high of $19,000. 2018 on the other hand was quite painful with bitcoin closing in on around $3000. Bitcoin in 2019 resulted in mixed feelings but it gained positive traction when it jumped from $3000 to $13000 again in the middle of the year.

 2020 showed extreme lows and extreme highs but ultimately reached close to $29000. Bitcoin in 2021 reached an astounding $60,000. In 2022, bitcoin wasn’t notable playing only around $20000-$30000. Bitcoin in 2023 closed at $40000. 2024 saw bitcoin reach the big $100000 milestone.

Now we’re here. So before you doubt bitcoin, remember to go look in the past. Bitcoin has always recovered and it will again.

This is a great reminder for the community and especially now ! It is so easy to lose sight of this and to catch the FUD but if you can persevere and get through all of this BS and wait for adoption and wait for a true breakthrough the reward shall be great!

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There's nothing to remind ourselves. Anyone who's into bitcoin for more than 4 years knows that bitcoin is volatile over short periods of time, but follows an upwards line over the long term, because it's hard money and considered by many the most superior asset we have. Now we even have large recognition from institutional investors, and a proxy with a potential of ~$40 trillion to be converted into bitcoin.

Anyone who is afraid of the current -30% downtrend is a bitcoin tourist. This drop has to happen for us to continue reaching new highs. We can't expect it to just continue going up with no shake outs.

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It is futile to try to talk sense into people as some them will always be selling their coins at the worst possible time. Some of them might still be holding but if btc keeps going lower and lower, and then some more, say it hit $30k, most people you see around will dump everything they have thinking it is heading zero.

You might think people have common sense in them and they won’t do such a crazy thing but it happens every market cycle. It happens because that is exactly how whales increase their own stacks. Whales basically have a feast on weak hand hodlers fear and panic.

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Bitcoin is struggling right now and everyone is tempted to sell, I bet. A few are probably thinking that this might be the end of bitcoin. But let’s take a deep dive into the past.

Bitcoin in 2010 never reached a $1. The next year, 2011, bitcoin reached almost close to $30. Bitcoin in 2012 peaked at $13 just before the year ended.

The first halving happened the month before in year 2012. Not even 5 years into its creation, bitcoin reaches $1000 in 2013.

Bitcoin fell during 2014. 10 years ago, 2015, bitcoin’s highest price was only around $400. Bitcoin had a slow appreciation in 2016 but eventually reached $1000 by end of the year.

2017 changed a lot of people’s lives with bitcoin reaching a high of $19,000. 2018 on the other hand was quite painful with bitcoin closing in on around $3000. Bitcoin in 2019 resulted in mixed feelings but it gained positive traction when it jumped from $3000 to $13000 again in the middle of the year.

 2020 showed extreme lows and extreme highs but ultimately reached close to $29000. Bitcoin in 2021 reached an astounding $60,000. In 2022, bitcoin wasn’t notable playing only around $20000-$30000. Bitcoin in 2023 closed at $40000. 2024 saw bitcoin reach the big $100000 milestone.

Now we’re here. So before you doubt bitcoin, remember to go look in the past. Bitcoin has always recovered and it will again.
Your analysis about Bitcoin on how the journey begins is clear and understand and if people take a look back at what had happened in the market for the past few years, they should have a thought that Bitcoin is going to shock the market and continue the trend. Maybe Bitcoin is sleeping yet to continue the trend the next day and we are not far from the morning and the sun rise that could commenced the continuation of the price of Bitcoin. What Bitcoin is going to accomplish is still far and we have not get there yet. By the time price continues, those opinions about the bear market will die off.
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Well, I don't think panic sellers would change their minds or decisions only by reading some posts or messages in a public forum, because they are generally impatient, it's in their nature, and you can't change someone's nature through verbal schooling. Even if they take a note or two from what they read or hear, it will only be temporary, and the motivation won't last too long, and as soon as something else happens later, they will forget everything and start panicking again, because it's in their nature, they just can't help it.

I have literally seen people having panic attacks, and when that happens, they will become restless, looking at the market again and again, asking questions to those who they think have more knowledge about the market, inquiring whether the market will recover or not, and if the market goes down further during that time, the panicking increases rapidly, and then at one point, it goes out of hand, and that's when they decide to exit and finish the suffering.
True talk. Although the question I keep asking myself is "why enter if you can't cope with the heat?" I've come to realize that those who are weak and easily panic when the market is down only exist so that there'd be something to differentiate between those who aren't easily swayed. Bitcoin has never promised to not fluctuate or cease being volatile so I don't understand why some people expect some sort of change the moment they become investors.

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November 24, 2025, 10:28:51 PM
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Honestly, this kind of reminder will only work to those who have real faith for bitcoin, that no matter how the market is in a bad shape right now, it will never last but is only temporary. However, for those who are easily triggered by their emotions and make impulsive decisions, it would be hard to convince them no matter how you try to remind them. And maybe its a good thing that they have to lose first so they can learn their lesson and change their mindset on how to deal the market and bitcoin.

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November 24, 2025, 11:27:54 PM
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True talk. Although the question I keep asking myself is "why enter if you can't cope with the heat?" I've come to realize that those who are weak and easily panic when the market is down only exist so that there'd be something to differentiate between those who aren't easily swayed. Bitcoin has never promised to not fluctuate or cease being volatile so I don't understand why some people expect some sort of change the moment they become investors.
Because we're in a bull run and they thought that this is going to stay on the top for so long. But their estimation didn't happen and what made them disappointed is they haven't taken profit when they were on the top already. Volatility of Bitcoin is normal and that will never change and so, if there are investors that keeps on getting shocked, it just so happen that they don't like what is happening now. The price will continue to fluctuate and bitcoin will remain to be a volatile asset that it's up to us if we find it as an advantage or disadvantage.

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Honestly, this kind of reminder will only work to those who have real faith for bitcoin, that no matter how the market is in a bad shape right now, it will never last but is only temporary. However, for those who are easily triggered by their emotions and make impulsive decisions, it would be hard to convince them no matter how you try to remind them. And maybe its a good thing that they have to lose first so they can learn their lesson and change their mindset on how to deal the market and bitcoin.

Fortunately, those people who don't have faith in Bitcoin since the beginning, and were only riding the waves, are not here in this community. You can find a lot of them in all social media platform.
Everyone here knows these "little reminders" the OP said. Although, you can find some people around here who does not agree with our stand, but those accounts were just created for that purposes, to spread fear amongst weak hands. We've been here before, the only thing that differs are the numbers.

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 2020 showed extreme lows and extreme highs but ultimately reached close to $29000. Bitcoin in 2021 reached an astounding $60,000. In 2022, bitcoin wasn’t notable playing only around $20000-$30000. Bitcoin in 2023 closed at $40000. 2024 saw bitcoin reach the big $100000 milestone.

Now we’re here. So before you doubt bitcoin, remember to go look in the past. Bitcoin has always recovered and it will again.
If people have a mature understanding of bitcoin then I think they will not doubt bitcoin even though recently the price of bitcoin is experiencing a correction but this will not make them pessimistic about bitcoin, the current decline I think is not comparable to the decline that occurred in 2022 what's more in that year there was a lot of Fud against bitcoin which made the price of bitcoin continue to fall and every time if we see an increase then that's when new Fud will appear so that in that year we can say that bitcoin was very depressed especially since the president of China at that time also really hated bitcoin and forbade his people from using bitcoin.
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December 14, 2025, 08:18:56 PM
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Bitcoin is struggling right now and everyone is tempted to sell, I bet. A few are probably thinking that this might be the end of bitcoin. But let’s take a deep dive into the past.

Bitcoin in 2010 never reached a $1. The next year, 2011, bitcoin reached almost close to $30. Bitcoin in 2012 peaked at $13 just before the year ended.

The first halving happened the month before in year 2012. Not even 5 years into its creation, bitcoin reaches $1000 in 2013.

Bitcoin fell during 2014. 10 years ago, 2015, bitcoin’s highest price was only around $400. Bitcoin had a slow appreciation in 2016 but eventually reached $1000 by end of the year.

2017 changed a lot of people’s lives with bitcoin reaching a high of $19,000. 2018 on the other hand was quite painful with bitcoin closing in on around $3000. Bitcoin in 2019 resulted in mixed feelings but it gained positive traction when it jumped from $3000 to $13000 again in the middle of the year.

 2020 showed extreme lows and extreme highs but ultimately reached close to $29000. Bitcoin in 2021 reached an astounding $60,000. In 2022, bitcoin wasn’t notable playing only around $20000-$30000. Bitcoin in 2023 closed at $40000. 2024 saw bitcoin reach the big $100000 milestone.

Now we’re here. So before you doubt bitcoin, remember to go look in the past. Bitcoin has always recovered and it will again.
This is the hopium we all need. Screenshotted for the next bear market.

Newbies see red candles and think "it's over." OGs see the same chart and think "right on schedule."

You just laid out the entire playbook. The pain is a feature, not a bug. It washes out the weak hands every single time. The halvings, the pumps, the brutal dumps—it's all part of the machine grinding forward.

The math doesn't lie. The trend is your friend. Thanks for the history lesson. Time to zoom out and stack.
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December 14, 2025, 08:48:35 PM
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If people have a mature understanding of bitcoin then I think they will not doubt bitcoin even though recently the price of bitcoin is experiencing a correction but this will not make them pessimistic about bitcoin, the current decline I think is not comparable to the decline that occurred in 2022 what's more in that year there was a lot of Fud against bitcoin which made the price of bitcoin continue to fall and every time if we see an increase then that's when new Fud will appear so that in that year we can say that bitcoin was very depressed especially since the president of China at that time also really hated bitcoin and forbade his people from using bitcoin.
Well, every bear market starts with the market slowly losing value, so it's not like in 2022, the price of Bitcoin went straight from $69k to $16k, but it was a gradual process, and I still remember that the price of Bitcoin was stable for quite some time around $22k or something, and then the LUNA crash happened, and then it dropped again from there to mark the lowest price of that cycle which was $16k, and then it started recovering slowly from there.

I'm not saying that we have entered the bear market already, but I'm just saying that you never know, anything could happen in this market at any time. Bitcoin could start recovering from here and go above the current all-time high at $126k, but it could also keep dropping from here, and then it might enter the actual bear market, and then we will see it going towards $50k or even lower, possibly. That's why, we can't really know, we are not yet in the bear market, but there is always a possibility for it.

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for those that care...

Last 12 months (Dec 14 ’24 → Dec 14 ’25)
Coins ≥ 8 years old:
173,080 BTC spent on-chain

That’s just 0.0707% of total on-chain spend turnover

Yet they account for $18.37B (USD for what that's worth) of gross realized PnL magnitude (Σ|profit/loss|)
→ 3.0430% of the network’s total Σ|PnL| (~$603.8B)

Takeaway: “OGs are dumping” doesn’t show up in spend volume…
but when very old coins move, it’s mostly profit realization, and it’s not trivial.
Note: turnover ≠ % of supply sold; this is on-chain spends + realized PnL by UTXO age bands.


The raw data:
---- age_band_share ----
table=age_band_flows
mode=conservative
requested_threshold=8y (8.0000y)
effective_cutoff= >= 8.0356y  (band 80 lower edge)
time_window=[2024-12-14, 2025-12-14)  (block_time)
bands_selected=20 -> [80..99]
btc_total=244955145.48511017 | btc_older=173080.06268589 | btc_share_pct=0.0707%
pnl_total_net_usd=335840487760.37781599 | pnl_older_net_usd=18374256346.57806268
pnl_total_gross_abs_usd=603824234337.08933929 | pnl_older_gross_abs_usd=18374256346.57806268
gross_pnl_abs_share_pct=3.0430%
net_pnl_as_pct_of_gross_pct=3.0430%  (signed; denom=gross abs)
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