Are you comfortable with sharing KYC data with casinos?

[Fiatless]

The main problem with casinos are that, in my opinion, they use KYC as means to give additional obstacle when people want to withdraw the funds. If they were honest,they would ask for KYC during the opening of account.

This way, when people get to complete KYC during withdrawals, it seems like they just want to confiscate funds of people who respect their privacy.

If they enforce strict KYC before registration, many gamblers might not want to go through that process. They will simply avoid the casino for others that have a simple process. It is ideal not to depend on casino ads before registring, read the terms of service before registration. Casino make regitration easy but withdrawal is usually a problem.   

[bakasabo]

The main problem with casinos are that, in my opinion, they use KYC as means to give additional obstacle when people want to withdraw the funds. If they were honest,they would ask for KYC during the opening of account.

This way, when people get to complete KYC during withdrawals, it seems like they just want to confiscate funds of people who respect their privacy.

If they enforce strict KYC before registration, many gamblers might not want to go through that process. They will simply avoid the casino for others that have a simple process. It is ideal not to depend on casino ads before registring, read the terms of service before registration. Casino make regitration easy but withdrawal is usually a problem.   

Be realist, nobody read ToS. People open ToS only when they get into troubles. I dont think that if they would force to pass KYC during registration, it would scare a lot of gamblers. Individuals maybe, but the majority will complete verification stage and happily with get back to gambling. I believe that not everyone completely understand consequences when their documents got stolen, not so many are afraid to share their documents online. Within this forum probably people realize the value of being anonymous, but a lot of crypto users, consider crypto to be digital money/assets/investment, than an instrument of anonymity.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Internet privacy or privacy in general is just joke in my country so it lead to a system that I need to provide my KYC for almost any purchase that is over $2,000, so it conditioned me to be lenient with whom I can share the KYC because my details are already available in every possible market for sale.

I had no problem completing KYC on any casinos and also I never had issues with my winnings or withdrawals.

[ovcijisir]

The main problem with casinos are that, in my opinion, they use KYC as means to give additional obstacle when people want to withdraw the funds. If they were honest,they would ask for KYC during the opening of account.

This way, when people get to complete KYC during withdrawals, it seems like they just want to confiscate funds of people who respect their privacy.

If they enforce strict KYC before registration, many gamblers might not want to go through that process. They will simply avoid the casino for others that have a simple process. It is ideal not to depend on casino ads before registring, read the terms of service before registration. Casino make regitration easy but withdrawal is usually a problem.   

It's kind of hypocritical from casino management that they make it so easy to deposit the funds, but during withdrawal they change the attitude upside down. I know that they are here to make money but in my opinion if they must ask for KYC, they should do it from the start.

As for TOC they should have tldr shortened version as vast majority of people are reluctant to read 20 pages of legal documents.

[Jubilee58]

Most of regulated casinos have clause in their Terms and conditions that they can block the account and ask for personal data if they find users activity suspicious or even for no reason at all.

I have always been careful about sharing my personal data with such services. Not only because they can misuse my data, but I don't have any control of who can access my personal data. Also I don't know who they share it with and finally some unhappy employee can collect that data and sell it on black market.

What are your experiences with sharing personal data and opinions about stricter and stricter regulations that require users to share personal data for every withdrawal?

Well sharing KYC on a casino platform is a regulatory measure sometimes the purpose is to enable the safety of your account and maybe there could be some benefits attached to those with KYC like withdrawal of higher amount etc. The reason why some platform do not value non KYC account is because they feel you are not their serious customer and can  overlook such account making it more vulnerable to attack because attention will not be giving to your account.

I have not experienced any thing bad sharing my information on any casino or betting platform but that doesn't mean people don't have bad experience sharing their information and this is the more reason you should know how reliable or legit a platform is before sharing  your personal information. However, sharing your KYC on a platform is not mandatory but can deprive you of using some platforms and thesame time deprive you of certain benefits that such platform offers.

[Tigerheart3026]

The main problem with casinos are that, in my opinion, they use KYC as means to give additional obstacle when people want to withdraw the funds. If they were honest,they would ask for KYC during the opening of account.

This way, when people get to complete KYC during withdrawals, it seems like they just want to confiscate funds of people who respect their privacy.

If they enforce strict KYC before registration, many gamblers might not want to go through that process. They will simply avoid the casino for others that have a simple process. It is ideal not to depend on casino ads before registring, read the terms of service before registration. Casino make regitration easy but withdrawal is usually a problem.   

winning small amount of bet, withdrawal is not a problem, withdrawal problem might be in local small casino sites, international casino platform won't be problem with withdrawal, but there are no casino platform enforce to kyc before sign up, it’s not be a user friendly casino platform behaviour, whatever we have to careful before resignation with new casino platform, to must be read their tos.

[Satofan44]

It's kind of hypocritical from casino management that they make it so easy to deposit the funds, but during withdrawal they change the attitude upside down. I know that they are here to make money but in my opinion if they must ask for KYC, they should do it from the start.

It is not kind of, it is purely hypocritical and often signals malice. If this was about regulation and wanting to make sure that the user account was in order, they would ask for KYC on deposits too. As a problem like this tends to be accepted slowly, it becomes a industry standard so even good casinos will do it that way. This is why people need to unite against KYC measures or at least demand proper ones and which is why people who are writing pro-KYC messages are complete retards.

As for TOC they should have tldr shortened version as vast majority of people are reluctant to read 20 pages of legal documents.

The key points could probably be summarized in less than a page, because it would be an interpretation for the average person and it does not need to have that detailed legal speak.

winning small amount of bet, withdrawal is not a problem, withdrawal problem might be in local small casino sites, international casino platform won't be problem with withdrawal, but there are no casino platform enforce to kyc before sign up, it’s not be a user friendly casino platform behaviour, whatever we have to careful before resignation with new casino platform, to must be read their tos.

Complete nonsense. KYC at signup is more user friendly than KYC at random once you win a good amount. As if doing KYC at signup would prevent anyone who wants to gamble from actually gambling. They don't care about it at all.

[Betwrong]

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You may think that giving in to convenience is smart and that you are doing the right thing, but it is the exact opposite. You are being manipulated and brainwashed to choose the easy way instead of choosing the right way. Do some research on this topic, there are books about it that will help you. The tradeoff of submitting KYC for whatever they give you is not worth it. It is like giving someone $10 and they give you $2 in return, and you say thanks that was a great deal. Does that sound smart to you? Convenience is only good for you when it comes to beneficial actions such as eating healthy or exercising as it helps with habit building, for everything else it is your enemy -- including gambling.

Well, that's just your opinion, dude. Keep refusing proving KYC, we'll see how far you can go like this in the modern world. I think, if you have nothing to hide from the authorities, you shouldn't be afraid of providing your KYC, especially when it gives you some benefits. The thing is that your data is already known by those who can abuse it, and there's thousands of them. By refusing to provide KYC you just block one potential abuse.

[ovcijisir]

It's kind of hypocritical from casino management that they make it so easy to deposit the funds, but during withdrawal they change the attitude upside down. I know that they are here to make money but in my opinion if they must ask for KYC, they should do it from the start.

It is not kind of, it is purely hypocritical and often signals malice. If this was about regulation and wanting to make sure that the user account was in order, they would ask for KYC on deposits too. As a problem like this tends to be accepted slowly, it becomes a industry standard so even good casinos will do it that way. This is why people need to unite against KYC measures or at least demand proper ones and which is why people who are writing pro-KYC messages are complete retards.

If there would be some organized initiative against KYC I'd be more than happy to participate.

I try to avoid KYC on every occasion,I even lost some funds because I didn't wanted do KYC in casinos, but I don't think there will be any progress as long as the refusal of KYC is on individual scale.

[nimogsm]

Internet privacy or privacy in general is just joke in my country so it lead to a system that I need to provide my KYC for almost any purchase that is over $2,000, so it conditioned me to be lenient with whom I can share the KYC because my details are already available in every possible market for sale.

I had no problem completing KYC on any casinos and also I never had issues with my winnings or withdrawals.

What is the reason for this procedure when purchasing something over $2,000? No need to name the country, I'm just curious why this is done. Is the government trying to control citizens' incomes so that they are equal, or is there another reason? Thank you for your answer.

[Satofan44]

You may think that giving in to convenience is smart and that you are doing the right thing, but it is the exact opposite. You are being manipulated and brainwashed to choose the easy way instead of choosing the right way. Do some research on this topic, there are books about it that will help you. The tradeoff of submitting KYC for whatever they give you is not worth it. It is like giving someone $10 and they give you $2 in return, and you say thanks that was a great deal. Does that sound smart to you? Convenience is only good for you when it comes to beneficial actions such as eating healthy or exercising as it helps with habit building, for everything else it is your enemy -- including gambling.

Well, that's just your opinion, dude.

It is not an opinion, it is the objective truth of the matter. That you are too big of a coward to accept that KYC is malicious, serves no beneficial purpose and does not solve anything, does not change the fact that it is so.

Keep refusing proving KYC, we'll see how far you can go like this in the modern world.

I never did any KYC and I am doing fine, thank you. Instead of looking in the mirror for the errors you are committing, you are spreading dangerous KYC misinformation. The signs of a classic addict of the system.

I think, if you have nothing to hide from the authorities, you shouldn't be afraid of providing your KYC, especially when it gives you some benefits.

Only the dumbest people in the world say something like that as an excuse for the mistakes that they have made by giving their data away. Get some education on the topic before you post this shit. Theymos should take away your speech here because you have nothing smart to say.  

The thing is that your data is already known by those who can abuse it, and there's thousands of them. By refusing to provide KYC you just block one potential abuse.

Nobody has my data. I receive 0 spam calls, 0 spam emails and nobody knows even where I live. The government does not know either. You have no idea who you are talking to, get back to spamming somewhere else.

If there would be some organized initiative against KYC I'd be more than happy to participate.

Unfortunately there isn't. Generally the people of the modern world are split into two groups:
1) The too stupid, who give low-level coping arguments like "if you don't have anything to hide".
2) The too complacent, who are brainwashed with every single trick by modernity. They are good wheels in the cog, pure NPCs. They live off of Netflix, social media and other instant gratification junk.

Those that would fight against these things are in a minority, and as you can see the flaw of democracy right here -- the truth does not win, neither does the best solution, the majority wins. If the majority wants us to kill ourselves, the supporters of democracy would celebrate this as an example of functioning democratic decision making.  

I try to avoid KYC on every occasion,I even lost some funds because I didn't wanted do KYC in casinos, but I don't think there will be any progress as long as the refusal of KYC is on individual scale.

If the money involved is significant, there are paid and unpaid ways to recover the money. However, it is generally best to simply not get into such situations in the first place.

What is the reason for this procedure when purchasing something over $2,000? No need to name the country, I'm just curious why this is done. Is the government trying to control citizens' incomes so that they are equal, or is there another reason? Thank you for your answer.

What does it matter? Governments will tell you some story about money laundering, child pornography, tax evasion or some other junk that only the dumbest citizens always believe. There is no valid reason in the world that can be used to justify such a limit, yet it exists. If you are interested in the bullshit official "explanations" just look it up or ask your friend ChatGPT.

[Antotena]

The main problem with casinos are that, in my opinion, they use KYC as means to give additional obstacle when people want to withdraw the funds. If they were honest,they would ask for KYC during the opening of account.

This way, when people get to complete KYC during withdrawals, it seems like they just want to confiscate funds of people who respect their privacy.

If they enforce strict KYC before registration, many gamblers might not want to go through that process. They will simply avoid the casino for others that have a simple process. It is ideal not to depend on casino ads before registring, read the terms of service before registration. Casino make regitration easy but withdrawal is usually a problem.   

That's deception and it's very bad. If you can't do the right thing, making a deposit only to win and want to withdraw and start acting funny is very bad for business reputation. If a casino want Kyc, they should enforce it properly, in fact they should never allow deposit like the way centralized exchange but they allow money to come through the casino only to be asking for date of birth certificate just to do anything that will make you not have access to your money.

There is no need for casino to be worrying about Kyc too much compare to centralized exchanges in my opinion, most often what they fear is money laundering but I think a casino that makes minimum wager requirement don't need all that. If people use two accounts on casino and they lose the money it's and advantage for them because more money will be flowing to their vault, they will make more money from loss than people will make from them or at least they should allow withdrawals to be restricted to amounts with account that doesn't have Kyc.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Internet privacy or privacy in general is just joke in my country so it lead to a system that I need to provide my KYC for almost any purchase that is over $2,000, so it conditioned me to be lenient with whom I can share the KYC because my details are already available in every possible market for sale.

I had no problem completing KYC on any casinos and also I never had issues with my winnings or withdrawals.

What is the reason for this procedure when purchasing something over $2,000? No need to name the country, I'm just curious why this is done. Is the government trying to control citizens' incomes so that they are equal, or is there another reason? Thank you for your answer.

It's India where everyone needs to add their PAN to the invoice so the income tax department can use them for easy tracking. Don't know about other countries but it is the norm here so anything we purchase with actual invoice need to provide two ID which is Aadhaar (National ID) and PAN (Income tax registered number).

[Onyeeze]

If kyc is needed to verify account before making a withdrawal you can do that that is not part of sharing your personal data to a casino platform, the thing is that we been the gamblers we don't like to expose our personal datas when it come to verification, but I don't know why people hardly verify the account the particular secret they are keeping I don't know the reason why so many people is scared of kyc verification to some of the gambling website, for me if you know that you are not ready to share your personal data to a gambling platform or you are not convinced that your personal data will remain with gambling platform you will have to desist from gambling because it is clear that genuine gambling platform must to demand for kyc verification, why a gambling platform that does not operate with license is the one that operate without asking customers for verification

[LUCKMCFLY]

I have not experienced any thing bad sharing my information on any casino or betting platform but that doesn't mean people don't have bad experience sharing their information and this is the more reason you should know how reliable or legit a platform is before sharing  your personal information. However, sharing your KYC on a platform is not mandatory but can deprive you of using some platforms and thesame time deprive you of certain benefits that such platform offers.

Many people won't be harmed by sharing their KYC information on some platforms yet , the Problem is that as time Goes on and hacks or similar issues arise , it becomes dangerous However, I advise having only a few casinos , preferably, so you don't have to Leave so many KYC information everywhere.

[Betwrong]

You may think that giving in to convenience is smart and that you are doing the right thing, but it is the exact opposite. You are being manipulated and brainwashed to choose the easy way instead of choosing the right way. Do some research on this topic, there are books about it that will help you. The tradeoff of submitting KYC for whatever they give you is not worth it. It is like giving someone $10 and they give you $2 in return, and you say thanks that was a great deal. Does that sound smart to you? Convenience is only good for you when it comes to beneficial actions such as eating healthy or exercising as it helps with habit building, for everything else it is your enemy -- including gambling.

Well, that's just your opinion, dude.

It is not an opinion, it is the objective truth of the matter. That you are too big of a coward to accept that KYC is malicious, serves no beneficial purpose and does not solve anything, does not change the fact that it is so.

That's exactly what a stupid cunt would say, no?

Keep refusing proving KYC, we'll see how far you can go like this in the modern world.

I never did any KYC and I am doing fine, thank you. Instead of looking in the mirror for the errors you are committing, you are spreading dangerous KYC misinformation. The signs of a classic addict of the system.

What "system"? Oh, are you a conspiracy theorist too?

I think, if you have nothing to hide from the authorities, you shouldn't be afraid of providing your KYC, especially when it gives you some benefits.

Only the dumbest people in the world say something like that as an excuse for the mistakes that they have made by giving their data away. Get some education on the topic before you post this shit. Theymos should take away your speech here because you have nothing smart to say.  

Again, a sign of a stupid cunt: going at people who tried to be polite with them.

The thing is that your data is already known by those who can abuse it, and there's thousands of them. By refusing to provide KYC you just block one potential abuse.

Nobody has my data. I receive 0 spam calls, 0 spam emails and nobody knows even where I live. The government does not know either. You have no idea who you are talking to, get back to spamming somewhere else.

That's just laughable, stupid cunt. I know you are a stupid cunt who thinks nobody has their data. Only a stupid cunt can be so rude to others and so self-confident.

[Dr.Osh]

almost all gamblers don't feel comfortable sharing KYC to online casino sites whether it's a good reputation, as op said we don't have access, personal data is important data that should not be known by others because it can harm us at any time

[Antotena]

What is the reason for this procedure when purchasing something over $2,000? No need to name the country, I'm just curious why this is done. Is the government trying to control citizens' incomes so that they are equal, or is there another reason? Thank you for your answer.

It's India where everyone needs to add their PAN to the invoice so the income tax department can use them for easy tracking. Don't know about other countries but it is the norm here so anything we purchase with actual invoice need to provide two ID which is Aadhaar (National ID) and PAN (Income tax registered number).

Seeing this alone makes me understand what my government is trying to do. The new Nigeria government has mandated everyone to start paying income tax comes 2026 and because of that, the Tax system want everyone to register a Tax ID but now they have changed their mind to use National Identity numbers as way to tracked each user's Tax income. I don't know how they are going to do this but we have a very poor system of data system in this country.

Where you will know that this people don't care about privacy, there are plenty of times the government has leaked public information due to poor data infrastructure. Most users NIN are there on another hackers data based waiting for the day it will become useful. If there is any benefit coming in the future, I'm sure that hackers will be the first to have a first hand information before the public because they don't value people's privacy.

[Bitcoin Smith]

I'm sure that hackers will be the first to have a first hand information before the public because they don't value people's privacy.

It is not always the hackers, sometimes the personal details we provide for the purchases can be misused or mishandled that gave access to those files to very random people might collect and sell them to the data collecting people who can be simply promotional agency who send spam mails to every random emails to the people with the intention of faking identity and doing illegal activities and mask them under random identity and random locations with the help of proxies.

[Satofan44]

almost all gamblers don't feel comfortable sharing KYC to online casino sites whether it's a good reputation, as op said we don't have access, personal data is important data that should not be known by others because it can harm us at any time

Almost all gamblers don't feel comfortable sharing their KYC? You could not be more wrong. The data shows that most people gladly submit KYC without even thinking twice. They don't care at all about any potential consequences about any of this. You have many retards like Betwrong who would even sell their family's KYC for $100. They are deeply addicted to the modern system, uneducated and economic parasites. These nobodies do not have time for education, therefore they submit KYC without hesitation.

Those that care about the issue or are simply uncomfortable with it are definitely in the majority, although the exact percentage will vary depending on the source of data.

Seeing this alone makes me understand what my government is trying to do. The new Nigeria government has mandated everyone to start paying income tax comes 2026 and because of that, the Tax system want everyone to register a Tax ID but now they have changed their mind to use National Identity numbers as way to tracked each user's Tax income. I don't know how they are going to do this but we have a very poor system of data system in this country.

Where you will know that this people don't care about privacy, there are plenty of times the government has leaked public information due to poor data infrastructure. Most users NIN are there on another hackers data based waiting for the day it will become useful. If there is any benefit coming in the future, I'm sure that hackers will be the first to have a first hand information before the public because they don't value people's privacy.

Yes and what about it? These countries are just catching up with what developed countries have, at least with tiny steps. Many countries have automatic deduction and payment of taxes, the people don't even have the chance to cheat the taxes even if they wanted to -- at least not those that have good jobs with good companies. Anyway if those measures don't work, the government can work around it by implementing other alternatives that can not be dodged like property tax. That said, none of this has anything to do with KYC directly. Individual and not so relevant countries do not have an impact on KYC laws.