why some players still fear kyc?

[Lida93]

We cannot be 100% certain that our personal data will never be shared with someone else or stolen. I doubt that any casino or bookmaker can guarantee complete protection of such information. Employees have access to these databases, and they may not always act responsibly. Hackers may also gain access to the data. Even government databases have been breached and sensitive information stolen, so it is hard to expect ordinary casinos to be completely immune to such risks.

If you're not ok with it, you can use a NoKYC casino. It's under probability that your data will be leaked or not and not something certain. It's not only in casinos but any platform that asks for KYC can equally leak your data based on the reasons that you mentioned above. Does that means that you don't use a centralized platform at all.

Nowadays there's no how anyone in this modern technological world would say they haven't had their information on some centralized database whether one owned by government or some private firms, we can't completely exempt ourselves information from it as long as we do have to engage in some socioeconomic activities but it doesn't have to be that we shouldn't be conscious of not being conservative with our information, doing so also helps reduce the risk of landing into the wrong hands.

[Cantsay]

I think those who are scared of the kyc are those who will generally be scared of anything that has to do with you giving out their personal identification documents. I used to know about somebody who hardly gives out their biodata identification papers and address because he feels he is endangered and can be traced for any other ill purposes such as being kidnapped as he does not trust all these online platforms. Such nature of people won’t want to share in their details due to the kind of mindset they have about the internet. It is now left for people like us to enlighten them properly on data protection and privacy which is ensured by all these platforms and regulated .

I might be wrong. But I don't take what some of these guys online say. I know that yours was from someone you know, actually, do it. But in the online space, many people say they don't give out their documents to gambling platforms, yet they'd be willing to give the same documents to other sites requesting them without even thinking twice.

A lot of people are selective because of what they hear and then give out their details to sites with less security than gambling platforms.

[jossiel]

The world is a very advancing one and in most cases, everyone is just trying to be very careful not simply because of today but probably in the future and don't be surprised if there comes a time where KYC would have to be necessary for players and non KYC would be a thing of the past and trust me, the government has their way round all these things and that's why the saying that "prevention is better than sacrifice" would have to  apply in cases like this and people now fear a future where government would take over these things

Well, non kyc is going to be definitely a thing in the past. We firstly seen that with the exchanges when they have been strong in implementing non kyc but today, look that most of them are requiring it and if there are those that are still non kyc, they're very few.

And that's going to be the same with the casinos, some are still good that they're non kyc but we don't know until they'll be forced to implement such policies because it's already happening but with a condition.

[junder]

I think one of the reasons why there are people who are still afraid to KYC is because of privacy, they may still be afraid to share their personal data, and I think that's normal too because indeed for personal data we have to be careful in sharing it, unless indeed the party asking for it is really trusted and we ourselves also trust that party.

But I think when someone likes to gamble and has never KYC but when he visits a new casino and manages to get a win and when making a withdrawal must KYC first then the person is likely to do KYC even though it is his first gambling at the casino he just visited.

[imthegreat]

I think the only people who fear document checks are those gamblers who cheated at online casinos and are now afraid of the consequences. Their accounts were blocked, even though they were verified with their documents, and their IP address was leaked and remembered by the system. Maybe they found a bug, or maybe they created multiple accounts, I don't know. But it's precisely these types of people who are quite likely to try to upload fake documents, or AI-generated ones, in order to have a second chance at online casinos. In my opinion, these are the people who fear KYC the most.

[fruktik]

Anyone who is so concerned about the privacy of their data should not be using casinos which require KYC so that it doesn't get to a point where the casino will have to request that from them in a case of either they provide it or they let go of their fund which is in the control of the casino, aside from casinos getting hacked. There have also been rumours of inside jobs selling of such data to third parties without the full consent of the casino owners.

I still haven't verified my identity on any website. This applies not only to casinos but to all other websites as well. Yes, there are some exceptions. For example, government-run sites require it. It opens up a lot of opportunities and makes life much easier.

In all other cases, I simply ignore them if they ask for personal information. Why? It's because there are no 100% secure internet resources online. I recently read a news story about hackers breaking into Onlyfans. Imagine what kind of security they had. So what? It didn't help much.

[eisen33]

I still haven't verified my identity on any website. This applies not only to casinos but to all other websites as well. Yes, there are some exceptions. For example, government-run sites require it. It opens up a lot of opportunities and makes life much easier.

In all other cases, I simply ignore them if they ask for personal information. Why? It's because there are no 100% secure internet resources online. I recently read a news story about hackers breaking into Onlyfans. Imagine what kind of security they had. So what? It didn't help much.

Now that I’ve spent some time on the forum, I understand the importance of protecting personal data, but in the past I used to take it much more lightly. Back then, I didn’t really think much about the fact that some websites could be unsafe when it comes to providing them with your personal information. When it came to exchanges, I treated them somewhat like banks, if you open a bank account, you have to provide all your personal details. I had similar associations with exchanges, but now that I understand the importance of privacy and the risks of losing personal data, I have absolutely no desire to go through verification on casino sites, exchanges, or anywhere else.

[Zadicar]

Anyone who is so concerned about the privacy of their data should not be using casinos which require KYC so that it doesn't get to a point where the casino will have to request that from them in a case of either they provide it or they let go of their fund which is in the control of the casino, aside from casinos getting hacked. There have also been rumours of inside jobs selling of such data to third parties without the full consent of the casino owners.

I still haven't verified my identity on any website. This applies not only to casinos but to all other websites as well. Yes, there are some exceptions. For example, government-run sites require it. It opens up a lot of opportunities and makes life much easier.

In all other cases, I simply ignore them if they ask for personal information. Why? It's because there are no 100% secure internet resources online. I recently read a news story about hackers breaking into Onlyfans. Imagine what kind of security they had. So what? It didn't help much.

Come to think that we've been long time exposing our identity but which usually we dont really have any choice but to comply specially if its that essential or useful on day to day basis. Just for example on using up some e-wallets or even having that sim card on which you would be needing up to have such verification and with that alone then its already an exposed identity. Now in speaking on online world then it would be that really up to you whether you would be that easily trying out to deal up with verification left and right like on gambling sites and other services. Although there are still some options that you can totally deal up with it anonymously but still you do choose up on having that verification to get the full features. Some doesnt really care as long they do have that good user experience and benefit then they wouldnt be having that second thoughts on having that verification but honestly most of the time we are that already on such era on where most everything are really that being verified.

[Gentle_Soul]

Some gamblers avoid KYC because they’re scared their info might get leaked. But if you think about it, any legit casino knows that leaking customer data is basically killing their own business. No company throws away millions just to expose a few IDs.

The real key is choosing a reputable casino, the kind that actually has something to lose if they mess up. If the platform is established and trusted, the risk is far lower than what most players imagine.

I don't know if you exactly mean chosing a reputable casino so you can be sure of your safety if you are to send out you data?
Reputable casinos and newer casino I'm thinking which should be strict on the kyc or should the newer casinos be allowed to first get a reputation before one can actually start using them. Offcourse kyc is supposed to be left as a secret by the casinos but if there is pressure and threat on the casino they might be forced to save there head by releasing a few private  informations out and that's the reason I think that a casino should rather not require for kyc in the first place.

[terrific]

I think the only people who fear document checks are those gamblers who cheated at online casinos and are now afraid of the consequences. Their accounts were blocked, even though they were verified with their documents, and their IP address was leaked and remembered by the system. Maybe they found a bug, or maybe they created multiple accounts, I don't know. But it's precisely these types of people who are quite likely to try to upload fake documents, or AI-generated ones, in order to have a second chance at online casinos. In my opinion, these are the people who fear KYC the most.

Not at all.
Many of the gamblers are willing to process kyc if we're asked to do so. But what we worry is about the protection of our data.
It's common that exchanges and casinos are getting hacked and the data from the kyc are not assured if they're safe or not.
That's why it's becoming a trust issue for many users but to be honest, many are willing to go for that approval if it's really needed.

[dwyane36]

Not at all.
Many of the gamblers are willing to process kyc if we're asked to do so. But what we worry is about the protection of our data.
It's common that exchanges and casinos are getting hacked and the data from the kyc are not assured if they're safe or not.
That's why it's becoming a trust issue for many users but to be honest, many are willing to go for that approval if it's really needed.

Many are willing to go through with it, since whether it’s a gambling platform or an exchange, they can offer services that appeal to users right now.
Overall, when comparing gambling platforms and exchanges, I get the impression that exchanges (CEX and DEX) are more frequently targeted by hacks and KYC data leaks than gambling platforms. But it’s unlikely that gambling platforms have better security than exchanges. Rather, hackers aren’t particularly interested in them, though I could be wrong about that.

[Taskford]

Not at all.
Many of the gamblers are willing to process kyc if we're asked to do so. But what we worry is about the protection of our data.
It's common that exchanges and casinos are getting hacked and the data from the kyc are not assured if they're safe or not.
That's why it's becoming a trust issue for many users but to be honest, many are willing to go for that approval if it's really needed.

Many are willing to go through with it, since whether it’s a gambling platform or an exchange, they can offer services that appeal to users right now.
Overall, when comparing gambling platforms and exchanges, I get the impression that exchanges (CEX and DEX) are more frequently targeted by hacks and KYC data leaks than gambling platforms. But it’s unlikely that gambling platforms have better security than exchanges. Rather, hackers aren’t particularly interested in them, though I could be wrong about that.

Many are willing to go with it, because there are lots of reputable casinos or even exchange are operating . People  now adopt on the changes since the law requires them to do that.

But as what you have said exchange became a favorite target its because it got lots of financial transactions and that attracts lots of hackers to attack their platform.

Its its really unlikely to say that gambling sites have better security than those exchanges, since I think it depends on the attack they are facing. But so far lots of platforms do everything just to make sure that their platform is safe and people don't have anything to worry when they are using their site.

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Some gamblers avoid KYC because they’re scared their info might get leaked. But if you think about it, any legit casino knows that leaking customer data is basically killing their own business. No company throws away millions just to expose a few IDs.

The real key is choosing a reputable casino, the kind that actually has something to lose if they mess up. If the platform is established and trusted, the risk is far lower than what most players imagine.

The problem is that it's very hard to tell where our data is being leaked from. We hear about it when large sites have a breach but there's no way for us to know when smaller ones do. That's why I don't like sending my data to just any random place.

[bhadz]

should the newer casinos be allowed to first get a reputation before one can actually start using them

This is what most of them are promoting and even the old and reputable casinos, they're still implementing non kyc to many of their players as long as they're not going to get close to the limit. That's the usual factor that they'll start asking for their players to kyc depending on the budget per account level or tier. It's not that many of the users are fearing to comply the kyc but they fear of their ids getting leaked and sold.

[terrific]

Not at all.
Many of the gamblers are willing to process kyc if we're asked to do so. But what we worry is about the protection of our data.
It's common that exchanges and casinos are getting hacked and the data from the kyc are not assured if they're safe or not.
That's why it's becoming a trust issue for many users but to be honest, many are willing to go for that approval if it's really needed.

Many are willing to go through with it, since whether it’s a gambling platform or an exchange, they can offer services that appeal to users right now.
Overall, when comparing gambling platforms and exchanges, I get the impression that exchanges (CEX and DEX) are more frequently targeted by hacks and KYC data leaks than gambling platforms. But it’s unlikely that gambling platforms have better security than exchanges. Rather, hackers aren’t particularly interested in them, though I could be wrong about that.

Both are investing into security with a lot of money but you're right that I also think that exchanges spend more than the casinos.
And everyone agrees that we're all willing to comply with it if the situation permits that to happen.
Because we don't have that much option to make but to follow what they're asking us to do especially if our money is in them and we've built trust with each other.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I have absolutely no issue with KYC since I know where the casinos are coming from when they do it. Since I always check the TOS before I register somewhere I also have nothing to fear when it come to rules and/or restrictions.

The only problem is, some shadier sites use KYC to delay payment and come up with some bs excuse to not pay their players. I mean they already have an accusation in their back pocket (maybe it be true or not), but first they always ask for KYC before they swing the "ban hammer".
I mean isn't it bad enough for them to take (or is many instances steal) your money, but then they also kinda force you to send your ID despite them having no intention to pay you in the first place.

[Achalugo BTC]

This is what most of them are promoting and even the old and reputable casinos, they're still implementing non kyc to many of their players as long as they're not going to get close to the limit. That's the usual factor that they'll start asking for their players to kyc depending on the budget per account level or tier. It's not that many of the users are fearing to comply the kyc but they fear of their ids getting leaked and sold.

Well, you are right but that's what most players wants, some players refused KYC verification because of their personal reasons, as some of them are not too confident about any casino's, as they believe that their information are not safe with them. On the other hand, some casino's doesn't implement KYC verification as they are afraid that some of their secrets will leaked out. That's why a lot of users should be careful when gambling in any casino as they are to verify the site before placing a bet and they are to also place a bet with what they can afford to lose.

[sompitonov]

I think some players are simply afraid to upload anything online because they're certain their data could leak. They're also overly fanatical about their anonymity. While I used to think this might be a good thing, now I don't always go through the KYC, so I have nothing to fear. I've realized that when a player has something to hide, they'll often avoid all KYC and play only at such casinos. While there's nothing wrong with any player wanting to keep their data to themselves, I hope no documents from gaming platforms are ever leaked online during a hack.

[WhoYouCantKill]

Both are investing into security with a lot of money but you're right that I also think that exchanges spend more than the casinos.
And everyone agrees that we're all willing to comply with it if the situation permits that to happen.
Because we don't have that much option to make but to follow what they're asking us to do especially if our money is in them and we've built trust with each other.

Making some compromise is very important, especially when money is involved because it won't make sense when one is not safe gambling in a casino, as it will also affect the company financially, but complying with the hope that they are doing it for their own good, it will be better for them to stick to it and do the necessary thing because at the end they are the one to enjoy it, as they are being protected from scammers and troubles that will cause one to feel emotionally down.

[KTChampions]

I think one of the reasons why there are people who are still afraid to KYC is because of privacy, they may still be afraid to share their personal data, and I think that's normal too because indeed for personal data we have to be careful in sharing it, unless indeed the party asking for it is really trusted and we ourselves also trust that party.

But I think when someone likes to gamble and has never KYC but when he visits a new casino and manages to get a win and when making a withdrawal must KYC first then the person is likely to do KYC even though it is his first gambling at the casino he just visited.

Hahaha, to continue your story, you need to write that such a person is then surprised when his KYC is rejected  Many have heard of this pattern, which allows casinos to cancel/delay payouts of winnings.
Overall, it's clear that digital hygiene requires us to share private information with as few parties as possible. The KYC gives you nothing but risks and unnecessary obligations (for example, you may be asked to pay taxes or your account may be closed because you have a passport from the "wrong" country).