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November 28, 2025, 06:02:41 PM
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1. Peter Schiff
An American stockbroker, in 2017 he made this statement:
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These currencies are going to trade to zero or pretty close to it when the bubble pops. Right now, the only reason why people are buying bitcoin is because the price is going up. When it turns around, they are not going to sell it for the same reason. There is no value in bitcoin, you can’t use it as money. It’s too slow, too expensive and too vulnerable.

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It has been 8 years now and the current price of bitcoin compared to 2017 has experienced over 300% increase, this alone should tell you never to listen to the ideas of these critics. Slow? The introduction of lightning network has boosted transaction speed putting critics to absolute shame.

2. Steve Hanke
An Economist and Professor, Johns Hopkins University posted in his twitter account:
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Bitcoin is down below $4,000./ BTC from nearly $20,000/BTC a year ago. Bitcoin is all about speculation. Don’t be tricked, buying bitcoin is a fool’s game.

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Bitcoin is not longer all speculative as it was in the past, it has now been adopted by corpurate tresuries as  strategic reserve, e.g, Microstrategy, you can view the bitcointalk thread here

3. Warren Buffett
CEO, Berkshire Hathaway
Here's what of his statements about bitcoin in 2018.
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Bitcoin is “probably rat poison squared.

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To show how false and flawed his statement is, Bitcoin's performance has since surpassed his company Berkshire Hathaway in terms of returns. So which should be regarded as the rat poison now?

4. Nouriel Roubini
Economist and Professor, NYU

He once said:
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Bitcoin has no role in institutional or retail investors portfolios. It is not a currency: not an unit of account, not a scalable means of payment & is a highly volatile store of value.

Again, MicroStrategy answers this and it is worth knowing that even though bitcoin is highly volatile, bitcoin as we know has consistently recovered and reached new ATH over the years now.

Are you aware of any Bitcoin critic? Please feel free to add them, let's celebrate all their flawed criticism around Bitcoin. You may find this link uselful: https://bitcoindeaths.com/critics
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November 28, 2025, 06:13:28 PM
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It’s too slow, too expensive and too vulnerable.
This gave me a laugh. Bitcoin too vulnerable.
Let me guess Gold is perfect? Many now just take Peter's view on Bitcoin as a joke.
He's always his loudest when there is a correction. I won't be surprised if he own some Bitcoin.

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An Economist and Professor, Johns Hopkins University posted in his twitter account:
Bitcoin is going against what most of these economist believe in
Hence why they chose not too understand it.


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Bitcoin is “probably rat poison squared.
Well probably means he isn't sure and just speculating.

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not an unit of account, not a scalable means of payment & is a highly volatile store of value.
Sometimes I believe they are just saying all these on purpose.
Gold is in many's portfolio but it is no longer a unit of account like it was during the Gold standard era.

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November 28, 2025, 06:18:48 PM
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From all the people listed above, they are all players in the traditional financial and economic markets, so we know they only want to protect their businesses. It's understandable that they have negative opinions about Bitcoin, as its presence could pose a threat to their markets.

Whatever they say shouldn't be listened to, as they are acting from a business perspective. They simply don't care much about Bitcoin, which doesn't generate any profit. Besides, Bitcoin critics will always be around, and you can't eliminate them. They will always appear at every stage of Bitcoin's development.

But Bitcoin continues to respond with its excellent development to this day. Meanwhile, what these critics say is increasingly irrelevant, and their statements are worthless. And that's what's happening right now.

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It’s too slow, too expensive and too vulnerable.
This gave me a laugh. Bitcoin too vulnerable.
Let me guess Gold is perfect? Many now just take Peter's view on Bitcoin as a joke.
He's always his loudest when there is a correction. I won't be surprised if he own some Bitcoin.

That dude has been beefing with Bitcoin for almost a decade now, if not more than. He doesn't seem to get tired, but we totally understand the frustration after seeing the same Bitcoin rising before his very own eyes. He's just trying to be right by all means, but Bitcoin keeps proving him wrong. I wonder if his followers don't get tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. In case anyone is feeling bored and wants to laugh at something, just search for him on X(Twitter), click his page, and search Bitcoin. His old tweets are even far more hilarious.

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Are you aware of any Bitcoin critic?

I have come across a lot of critics online, but I always struggle to remember their names. Peter Schiff just happens to be the only name I can easily recall probably because he keeps finding ways to get into the news. Allowing other people's opinion and belief to overshadow yours, without asking your own questions Is dangerous. These critics are very good at convincing others, by trying to sell out their own ideology.

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November 28, 2025, 07:59:24 PM
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After reading all their criticism, I just laughed because some of them were speaking as if they already traveled to the future to look at how Bitcoin was going to fail but they didn't see clearly, that is why they didn't realize that Bitcoin was going to fail their thoughts about it. Peter Schiff was waiting for the bubble to burst and Bitcoin really burst his bubble, from every speculation or thought they had about Bitcoin those pastpast it was opposite of what's reality today and they know it. If they had taken the advantage of investing instead of criticism, they would doubled their wealth.

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Many critics previously made negative comments about Bitcoin, which have been proven completely wrong over time. Bitcoin is a long-term investment system, gradually increasing in value, ordinary investors and traders are buying large amounts of Bitcoin and holding it for the future, because the future of Bitcoin is digital gold. In 2009 or 2010, when the price of Bitcoin was very low, those who bought Bitcoin with confidence thinking about the future and carefully stored it have success today. Those who have patiently purchased Bitcoin, thinking it is a valuable asset for the future, and hold it have not been fool, they have success.

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Do not forget about what Jamie Dimon said that bitcoin is like "pet rocks". Although there's a sudden change of heart on him which is good or he didn't really changed at all.

And all that he has said negatively about bitcoin is part of his theatrics to make people scared of buying it.

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Once Called Bitcoin A 'Pet Rock' — Now He Says Crypto, Stablecoins Are 'Real, We'll All Use Them'

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November 28, 2025, 09:00:15 PM
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We all have different concepts towards bitcoin. It's just that theirs are anti-bitcoin because that's how they see bitcoin today and in the future. Regardless of what's their reason, we should still respect them for that.

However, ours is different because we have come across to experience bitcoin on hand. We bought and invest into bitcoin, perform DCA, and hold for several years. And the result, we did it and make life-changing profits, the reason that until today we continue to patronize bitcoin. And even in the payment system, bitcoin has slowly established its  utility cases. While fiat is just for spending due to its depreciating value, bitcoin itself could be used as a currency, but majority trusted it as a store of value that made them to invest for bitcoin bravely despite of its high volatility.

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Yes those economists have been criticizing Bitcoin for years and while criticizing
Crypto have included Bitcoin too.

They have since then come around to some degree to understanding the benefits
Bitcoin can offer and more importantly to them how they can profit from it.



I made similar posts a few years ago with more quotes from Jamie Dimon,
Warren Buffet and Nouriel Roubini.

Dr.Doom - Nouriel Roubini

Dr.Doom is actually a nickname for a number of BEARS over the years, There is a
list of them here on this ARTICLE
but for this thread its all about BItcoin so I’m posting about Nouriel Roubini.

Nouriel Roubini is somebody which has evaded my attention until I started writing an
article on Jamie Dimon. The Name Dr.Doom came up and I was intrigued.

Nouriel Roubini is an American Economist who is known for his gloomy economic
warnings and has been a staunch critic of Bitcoin over the years, so like my threads
on Warren Butffet and Jamie Dimon I would like to list his Bitcoin related statements
which unlike JD have not softened over the years until November of last year where he
seems to acknowledge some understanding of Bitcoin, but I suppose his nickname is there
for a reason.

A lot of his commentary is centered around the 2017/2018 “Bubble” he talks some sense
really and its interesting to hear his views in relation to what happened then.
like all critics of Bitcoin the decentralized nature of it grates against their traditional
FIAT economic view.

Criminality again is mentioned in his statements a lot, it’s the same line we are hearing
already this year from government financiers and is their go to argument for regulation.

2018 February 2ndBiggest Bubble in History

“We can’t allow it to become the next Swiss bank account for use by criminals and
people evading tax.”

2018 October 11th Bitcoin is the ‘mother of all scams’

Bitcoin is the ‘mother of all scams’ and blockchain is the most hyped tech ever

2019 April 11th Most crypto people are totally clueless

They want to reinvent everything about money, but most of them are absolutely totally clueless.
The ratio between arrogant and ignorant is astounding – I have never seen such a gap in my life.
These are fanatics. Some of them, like criminals, zealots, scammers, carnival barkers, insiders
who are just talking their book 24/7.

2020 March 9thSo BTC is a shitty shitcoin hedge in risk-off cases

2020 November 13th Crypto’s Fiercest Critic—Has Admitted Bitcoin Could Be A ‘Store Of Value’

"[Bitcoin is] maybe a partial store of value, because, unlike thousands of other what I call shitcoins,
 it cannot be so easily debased because there is at least an algorithm that decides how much the
supply of bitcoin raises over time…”

2020 December 24thBitcoin's 'hyperbolic bubble is going to go bust'

“First of all, calling it a currency — it’s not a currency. It’s not a unit of account, it’s not a means of
payment.…it’s not a stable store of value. Secondly, it’s not even an asset,”

“While in the case of Bitcoin, there is no income, There is no use. There is no utility. The only thing
is a speculative, self-fulfilling kind of rise, and that rise is driven totally by manipulation.”

“The price of Bitcoin is totally manipulated by a bunch of people, by a bunch of whales. It doesn’t have
any fundamental value,”

“We’re close to the point where the hyperbolic bubble is going to go bust.”




Warren Buffett – CEO Berkshire Hathway

Is considered to be the 4th wealthiest person in the world. He has invested in Coca-Cola in the 80’s,
this is probably their best known investment along with investing in Apple.

He was listed in 2007 in the Times 100 most infleuential people and has donated Billions of dollars to various charities.

He has written numerous books and is known to like telling stories so no doubt he also likes his quotes
to reach far and hit hard and is a very outspoken critic of Bitcoin and Crypto.

After seeing recently some tweets aimed at Buffett and quoting the famous RAT POISON attack by Buffett I decided to
list his other quotes against Bitcoin.

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Michael Saylor
@michael_saylor · Jan 6
"Warren Buffett famously called bitcoin “rat poison.” He may well be right. #Bitcoin could be rat poison,
and the rat could be cash." -Bill Miller, CFA

Warren Buffett famously called bitcoin “rat poison.” He may well be right. Bitcoin could be rat poison,
and the rat could be cash.


March 14th 2014 - https://www.cnbc.com/2014/03/14/buffett-blasts-bitcoin-as-mirage-stay-away.html#close

“Stay away from it. It’s a mirage, basically,”

November 6th 2017 - https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2017/11/06/why-buffett-sees-bitcoin-bubble/?sh=38f186e462a8

“You can’t value bitcoin because it’s not a value-producing asset...it's a real bubble in that sort of thing.”

"It doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated. It's not under control. It's not under the supervision
[of] any...United States Federal Reserve or any other central bank. I don't believe in this whole thing at all.
I think it's going to implode."

January 10th 2018 - https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/10/buffett-says-cyrptocurrencies-will-almost-certainly-end-badly.html

“In terms of cryptocurrencies, generally, I can say with almost certainty that they will come to a bad ending,”

“Why in the world should I take a long or short position in something I don’t know anything about.”

May 1st 2018 - https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/warren-buffett-bitcoin-isnt-an-investment.html

“If you buy something like bitcoin or some cryptocurrency, you don’t have anything that is producing anything,”

“You’re just hoping the next guy pays more. And you only feel you’ll find the next guy to pay more if he thinks
he’s going to find someone that’s going to pay more. You aren’t investing when you do that, you’re speculating.”

“The idea that it has some huge intrinsic value is just a joke in my view,”

May 5th 2018 -  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/05/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-probably-rat-poison-squared.html#:~:text=%20Warren%20Buffett%20says%20bitcoin%20is%20%E2%80%98probably%20rat,Quick.%20Buffett%20is%20presiding%20at%20Berkshire...%20More%20

“probably rat poison squared,”

February 25th 2019 - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/25/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-a-delusion.html#close

“Bitcoin has no unique value at all,”

“It is a delusion, basically.”

“It attracts charlatans,”

February 24th 2020 - https://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/warren-buffett-blasts-bitcoin-worthless-vows-never-own-crypto-value-2020-2-1028932272

"Cryptocurrencies basically have no value," Buffett said. "They don't produce anything."

"You can't do anything with it except sell it to somebody else," he added. "But then that person's got the problem."

"Bitcoin has been used to move around a fair amount of money illegally,"




Jamie Dimon – CEO JP Morgan Chase

Jamie Dimon was a staunch critic and another interesting figure in regards to Bitcoin,
I say “was” because in a recent interview he doesn’t seem to be as quick to slate it.
His recent comment was “its not my cup of tea” which has softened considerably
from his famous comment “It is worse than tulips bulbs,” which references the massive
speculative Tulip market bubble in Holland in the early 1600’s

Eventhough JD was not a fan of Bitcoin he has an understanding of how it worked and is
interested in Blockchain technology stating “Its a technology which we’ve been studying,
and yes its real, it can probably reduce the cost of doing business. If it proves to be cheap
and secure, it would be adapted for a whole bunch of stuff”

He realized that moving into Blockchain was the least JP Morgan could do and created their
own coin JPMcoin which is pegged to the Dollar unfortunately for them.

Another interesting move by JP Morgan was they added Coinbase and Gemini Trust to their client list.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. agreed to take on two Bitcoin exchanges as banking clients in a move that shows
the company getting more comfortable with an industry its top leader once spurned.


Some of Jamie Dimons previous comments

2015 – November 5th

“This is my personal opinion, there will be no real, non-controlled currency in the world.
There is no government that’s going to put up with it for long …
there will be no currency that gets around government controls.”

2016 – January 10th

 “Bitcoin the currency is going nowhere. There is nothing behind it, and if it was big the governments would stop it,”

2017 – September 21st

“is a fraud.”

“The currency isn’t going to work. You can’t have a business where people can invent a currency
out of thin air and think that people who are buying it are really smart.”

Dimon said that if any JPMorgan traders were trading the crypto-currency, “I would fire them in a second,
for two reasons: It is against our rules and they are stupid, and both are dangerous.”

Commenting on his daughter - “It went up and she thinks she’s a genius now,”

“It is worse than tulips bulbs,”

2017 – October 13th

“If you’re stupid enough to buy it, you’ll pay the price for it one day,”

“Who cares about bitcoin? The world economy is so big,”

2018 – January  

“‘I regret’ calling bitcoin a fraud”

2020 – November 

“bitcoin is just not my cup of tea.”

“some ‘very smart people’ are investing in bitcoin these days”




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Nouriel Roubini is a fool who had one good prediction in his life, pretty much like Michael Burry. They both predicted the same exact crash and got famous for it and since then they've both been bears.

But since nobody likes to be called a fool for no reason, here's the reason:
In 2017 Roubini said that all commodities were in a bubble, especially gold and he called the top multiple times.
He also said: “Gold has no increasing value. And if you’re really worried about, say, inflation rising, I would buy Spam. You know, you can eat Spam. You cannot eat gold.”
Since then gold went from 1.2k to 4k.
In 2018 he called bitcoin a ponzi scheme and we all know what happened to the price Wink

Let's face it, he's bad at his job.

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Looking at the names on the list, in the end we realize that they still want the conventional style as their way of making money and fiat has become a benchmark for them so it is inevitable that in the end they will continue to do the same thing even though bitcoin has experienced very significant developments both in terms of progress and value development.

If in the past maybe I would try to argue something like this but for now I will just laugh at what they said in the past and now because even though in terms of finance they are much greater and their economy is still very secure with their current fiat but I have an advantage over them, namely when I want to try to make innovation as an opportunity not to limit myself just because I am too focused on conventional methods like they do.

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Everyone is free to have their school of thought and so are critics and supporters. Personally I don't fancy quotes and posts about mostly bitcoin on platforms like X or Reddit especially on X since you may even notice some of them are saying all those things just because they want to farm engagements or don't want to actually disclose their investments totally.

Most of the time these critics could even be whales besides you can't tell since bitcoin is anonymous however they come online to mislead the public instead. People focus too much on the words of critics and billionaires which is why the FOMO effect is always very strong.

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It’s too slow, too expensive and too vulnerable.
This gave me a laugh. Bitcoin too vulnerable.
Let me guess Gold is perfect? Many now just take Peter's view on Bitcoin as a joke.
He's always his loudest when there is a correction. I won't be surprised if he own some Bitcoin.

The funny thing about him is that he is so stubborn and proud. He has been saying the same thing for close to a decade and is proven wrong time and again, yet he still keeps saying the same thing. There is nothing new he wants to say about Bitcoin. That is why I don't buy the idea that Michael Saylor should debate him because we all already know what he is going to say, it's the same thing he has been saying since 2017. He has been predicting the death of Bitcoin for years, so nobody should take him seriously at all. He loves the attention.

I think even he himself doesn't believe the things he says at this point, but he has gone so far into it to an extent that there is no going back, so he just needs to keep doubling down. He is too proud to admit that he was wrong.

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I hate it when someone criticizes Bitcoin, especially when it comes from someone who doesn't understand Bitcoin fundamentally. It is no wonder we find flaws in their statements.

A similar case occurred with a famous artist in my country. He opened a YouTube channel dedicated to financial discussions. At one point, he criticized Bitcoin, and considered it a negative thing, but recently, he changed his mind after reading more about Bitcoin, especially after reading the Bitcoin whitepaper. He finally admitted it, and even invested in Bitcoin. So, I think people who don't understand Bitcoin will try to criticize Bitcoin without fundamental knowledge. If they were willing to spend a few hours analyzing Bitcoin, I am sure they would shut up about their criticism.



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Seems like they really represented it well enough until this time but I think Satoshi has the last laugh over them. I really think these are the mfers that didn't get in early with Bitcoin even though they knew it and thinks it was too late now they FUD it but they made public stand that they are against it and now they are retarded to change that stand or they're simply retarded conservatives.

 
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The funny thing about him is that he is so stubborn and proud.

I think even he himself doesn't believe the things he says at this point, but he has gone so far into it to an extent that there is no going back, so he just needs to keep doubling down. He is too proud to admit that he was wrong.

What's even funnier is that the old man is extending his Bitcoin begging bowl to generous Bitcoin supporters for some spare Satoshis. It seems deep inside him he loves Bitcoin. It's just that he missed the train. He felt bitter about it and, as a proud old man, he can't swallow the fact that he's proven wrong and lost a huge opportunity.

This year, even EuroPac International Bond Fund, a fund managed by Peter's Euro Pacific Asset Management has purchased a considerable share of Samara Asset Group's Bitcoin bond.

Apart from that, the old man loves to meet Bitcoin personalities, speaks in Bitcoin-themed gatherings, and so on. This old man is a gold bug but he's also a Bitcoiner by heart. He's just shy.

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November 29, 2025, 01:08:55 AM
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Are you aware of any Bitcoin critic? Please feel free to add them, let's celebrate all their flawed criticism around Bitcoin.
I made this topic before and I think you might find it interesting. Smiley It's a summary of an article where the author tackles the criticism of some Noble Laureates, using a philosophical point of view. I also tried to provide some additional information to support the counterarguments. Or you can just go here instead if you want to read the original article.

Here's a few of their quotes:
 

Eugene F. Fama (Nobel 2013)
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Quote from: Eugene Fama
[...] cryptocurrencies are such a puzzle because they violate all the rules of a medium of exchange.
They don't have a stable real value. They have highly variable real value. That kind of a medium
of exchange is not supposed to survive.[1]






Quote from: Paul Krugman
[...] Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies served no useful purpose, [...] their market value
rested on nothing but "technobabble and libertarian derp".[2]

Paul Krugman (Nobel 2008)
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Joseph Stiglitz (Nobel 2001)
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Quote from: Joseph Stiglitz
Bitcoin is successful only because of its potential for circumvention, lack of oversight...
So it seems to me it ought to be outlawed. It doesn't serve any socially useful function.[3]






Quote from: Robert Shiller
I'm interested in bitcoin as a sort of bubble. It doesn't mean that it will disappear, that it'll burst forever.
It may be with us for a while. To me, it's interesting as another example of faddish human behavior.
It's glamorous.[4]

Robert J. Shiller (Nobel 2013)
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November 29, 2025, 03:47:49 AM
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We have many people of these manners that talks a lot about bitcoin in the past and have changed their position on it today, while some still remains adamant on their stand and approach about Bitcoin, maybe we could include a quote that point on Trump as well as he was not being mentioned, I think he also have something in the past on this.

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November 29, 2025, 04:05:20 AM
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I am sure they must be regretting not to have a bitcoin in their wallet at this point. From the 2017 till date bitcoin had nice roller-coaster rides and it made many more rich people world has ever seen in the past 20 years.

Bitcoin slapped all the critics in such short period of time. There came a time when everyone started losing hopes in the Bitcoin but no, it never disappointed anyone in the "long run".

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November 29, 2025, 07:07:20 AM
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Yes those economists have been criticizing Bitcoin for years and while criticizing
Crypto have included Bitcoin too.

They have since then come around to some degree to understanding the benefits
Bitcoin can offer and more importantly to them how they can profit from it.

Yeah, in as much as criticism is part of every society I still feel we should be careful in our judgements while criticising something as transformative as Bitcoin, these are prominent men for crying out loud and so many people take them for their words.

Just imagine the number of there followers they might have deceived with their baseless criticsm over the years. Personally, I can never trust the words of these individuals regarding finance and business, there statements are misleading and can cause you a life changing opportunity.
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