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December 16, 2025, 02:32:50 PM
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It is not right to rely on AI for market predictions because no matter how accurate AI predicts, it may not be accurate because no system has been developed so far that can accurately predict the future. If AI could predict the future, people would have earned millions million dollar using AI on trading platforms, not only on trading platforms, but also from gambling platforms, people would have made every bet successful using AI.
The real use of AI would be to get help regarding market analysis, not for the prediction. Even humans who are the most expert in crypto couldn't predict perfectly about future price. So how could the AI predict exactly? It could predict only based on recent news, charts and the current market condition. For me, I use AI only for analysing the market; some data AI could collect so quickly and give a better outcome. No predictions are accurate; otherwise, everyone would be rich when they enter in crypto.

Since the AI prediction here was made on December 2nd, if this prediction is compared now, it will be seen that Solana has not increased at all. Moreover, all the markets are now in a dumping mode.
That means if you trade blindly according to AI, then you may have to lose funds. That's the reason why I haven't been following the AI predictions, but rather getting help regarding recent market status like inflow, outflow, etc.

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December 16, 2025, 03:52:45 PM
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From my Personal experience, AI does works for me mostly for research purposes, but if i am to place a trade, i don't make my decisions and judgments based on the directional suggestions by AI, some times this AI suggested trades does works but i just don't feel comfortable enough with it and so i don't engage with it all the time. for research, i can go with the directions suggested by AI to narrow my research to a focused point from where i will base my analytics and then further look for possible opportunities around such and also possible trades i can pick form my research and analysis.

AI can be helpful sometimes with trades but most pro traders will definitely not relay on AI to trade and even as a newbie, it is not best to depend on it as you will become fatigued to do researches as you should and you will also not be able to master the act of analyzing for yourself and spotting good trades that matches your emotions and help you build a better psychology as a trader.
Sometime AI can be option for trading because when asking help always give us several option how much price to entry, sell until giving us option to cut loss around few percent if price get down. Although not fully use AI for trading but I have experienced one moment when buying bitcoin AI giving me an option what price have to buy, sell until recommended price have to cut loss if bitcoin getting down. I think is good way for trading if use AI giving us solution not only to entry but also recommended price have to cut loss how to avoid much loss or become long term holder.
If get busy for analyst market I think short term option for trading in cryptocurrency by using AI, you can use sometime but not fully all your trading way ask helping from AI.

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December 16, 2025, 04:11:06 PM
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AI always gives importance to data. They make predictions based on the previous data, but AI can't make decisions like humans. The trading market is different because it is always influenced by humans' sentiment. Trading depending on AI is not always brings positive result. AI cannot even identify the movements of whale investors properly. Those who trade depending on AI lose their ability to analyze themselves. Many times, when there is a loss, they overtrade and want to blame it completely on AI. We know AI is a robot that has no ability to think like a human. It is maintained by humans, so there is no reason in relying entirely on it.

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December 16, 2025, 04:20:47 PM
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I agree with you but do not agree on the line I bolded because they have data which we know is raw data and when we ask ai questions (input) it gives us useful information that we use to analyze our trades deeply, means the information we get from these AI is almost accurate not bad, not completely inacurate if we are using a premium AI bot.
If AI is used correctly, it will contain useful information that we can use as a tool to help us when making an analysis. But when traders do not use AI properly, they are actually no different from following trading signals from paid or free groups. Such groups were popular in the past; perhaps nowadays, trading signal groups also use AI rather than their analysts' abilities.

 
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December 16, 2025, 04:25:38 PM
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AI always gives importance to data. They make predictions based on the previous data, but AI can't make decisions like humans. The trading market is different because it is always influenced by humans' sentiment. Trading depending on AI is not always brings positive result. AI cannot even identify the movements of whale investors properly. Those who trade depending on AI lose their ability to analyze themselves. Many times, when there is a loss, they overtrade and want to blame it completely on AI. We know AI is a robot that has no ability to think like a human. It is maintained by humans, so there is no reason in relying entirely on it.

I don't know some of the potential of artificial intelligence but I know that they can be built in a way that will predict the price of Bitcoin up to accuracy even if it is not 100% accurate. The world is revolving and advancing in technology. We are getting to a time when people will not be taking too much time to reduce the market by checking their charts, trying to learn how to use indicators and other market patterns to analyze the crypto market. The price of Bitcoin is not easy to predict and artificial intelligence will be the one to do all those things for us when the time gets close when we can see great advancement in artificial intelligence.
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December 16, 2025, 04:38:44 PM
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If AI is used correctly, it will contain useful information that we can use as a tool to help us when making an analysis. But when traders do not use AI properly, they are actually no different from following trading signals from paid or free groups. Such groups were popular in the past; perhaps nowadays, trading signal groups also use AI rather than their analysts' abilities.

Nobody will do the hard work on our behalf, for our profit. People subscribe for signalling groups because they don't want to do the hard work of doing research rather they want to move on other people ideas to become rich and result is just loss. AI is a tool that can help us in many ways but it wont do the critical decisions about trading and that's something we have to manage ourselves. The free AI tools like ChatGPT are not 100% accurate and we must double check there results. When it comes to opening a trade, make sure you make decision from your own mind because your money is involved and only you will bear the loss in case of wrong decision.

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December 17, 2025, 11:40:58 AM
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I don't know some of the potential of artificial intelligence but I know that they can be built in a way that will predict the price of Bitcoin up to accuracy even if it is not 100% accurate. The world is revolving and advancing in technology. We are getting to a time when people will not be taking too much time to reduce the market by checking their charts, trying to learn how to use indicators and other market patterns to analyze the crypto market. The price of Bitcoin is not easy to predict and artificial intelligence will be the one to do all those things for us when the time gets close when we can see great advancement in artificial intelligence.

I doubt this. Yes, I agree that with time, AI will be very much advanced and way better than they are today, but they won't have the accuracy in predicting Bitcoin price or movement. This is because the movement of bitcoin on the charts is caused by something else that can not be measured in charts all the time. This is the same reason AI cannot accurately predict the stock movement of a publicly traded company.
There are factors that are not in the data that the AI uses for analysis.

For example, we woke up one morning to see that the US bombed Iran's nuclear sites, and if I remember correctly, on that day Bitcoin price dipped. Except that the AI has an inside knowledge of this, there is no way it was going to know that something like that would happen. Now if it had, it would have been able to analyse and predict the impact of the US carrying out military strikes on Iran would have on the price of Bitcoin.
This is just one case scenario; there are more.
So, while I do believe that AI will be so advanced in the future, at the same time, I know that they're not fortune tellers. They rely on data, and they cant get all the data.


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December 17, 2025, 02:19:50 PM
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Without that we can't rely on ai bots completely because we will doubt the second things starts to turn the other way even the bot will start saying the solana is bearish now.
Actually, AI is interesting and can help with some aspects of life, but in trading, AI bots also have weaknesses. AI does not possess helpful information, AI is not a predictor of the future. AI bots assist and perform tasks, but those who choose to use AI need to validate the information from AI with their own knowledge and skills. We really cannot fully rely on the results given by AI. Many traders might be interested in using AI bots, but after trying to trust the results provided, they will start criticizing the bot.
Lol, AI isn’t an astronaut which predict things by checking your hands. Or an intuition that is gifted to someone who always dreams and predict right. AI is a manmade thing without caring who is setting in front and just provide what you ask for that could be information, history, directions or how to fix a problem. But it is always right about future. It can be a good friend in the time of loneliness and can give you some suggestions about what to do if you fail. AI can also give you suggestions regarding trading and physical businesses but I do not think that I will risk with my hard earned money with AI's suggestions.
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December 17, 2025, 02:53:29 PM
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For example, we woke up one morning to see that the US bombed Iran's nuclear sites, and if I remember correctly, on that day Bitcoin price dipped. Except that the AI has an inside knowledge of this, there is no way it was going to know that something like that would happen. Now if it had, it would have been able to analyse and predict the impact of the US carrying out military strikes on Iran would have on the price of Bitcoin.
This is just one case scenario; there are more.
So, while I do believe that AI will be so advanced in the future, at the same time, I know that they're not fortune tellers. They rely on data, and they cant get all the data.
AI can become extremely powerful at analyzing patterns and probabilities, but it will never accurately predict Bitcoin’s price because markets are driven by unpredictable human decisions and external shocks like wars, regulations, or sudden events that aren’t present in the data and therefore can’t be foreseen. AI can only based on info but they can't really grasp what's not yet happening or unforeseen events. Cause if they do that's already scary feature of them.
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December 17, 2025, 05:01:39 PM
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AI can become extremely powerful at analyzing patterns and probabilities, but it will never accurately predict Bitcoin’s price because markets are driven by unpredictable human decisions and external shocks like wars, regulations, or sudden events that aren’t present in the data and therefore can’t be foreseen. AI can only based on info but they can't really grasp what's not yet happening or unforeseen events. Cause if they do that's already scary feature of them.
This is the reason why AI will fail, and most of the time chart reading also fails as well. Because no matter what indicator you use, no matter what chart you are looking at, any bad news comes out and suddenly it drops and doesn't care about any chart or any indicator.

So AI will only be able to read up on the charts and indicators and patterns, and tell you what it "should" do in the best case, not even doing that right now but that is what it can aspire to do in the future, which will mean nothing because news and peoples reactions to those news will decide the price. Like when Trump won the election, price went up, which chart or indicator could have told you that? Or when tariffs happened it dropped, which AI could have predicted that?

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December 19, 2025, 01:59:31 PM
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Lol, AI isn’t an astronaut which predict things by checking your hands. Or an intuition that is gifted to someone who always dreams and predict right. AI is a manmade thing without caring who is setting in front and just provide what you ask for that could be information, history, directions or how to fix a problem. But it is always right about future. It can be a good friend in the time of loneliness and can give you some suggestions about what to do if you fail. AI can also give you suggestions regarding trading and physical businesses but I do not think that I will risk with my hard earned money with AI's suggestions.
AI is just a tool and it can't understand us until we give it a prompt, and you are right it can't do a thing until we fail to deliver our input in the right manner as it all depends on the input, we can ask it to write an article on a topic "X" but this command will get us nothing like it will be ai generated, plagiarised and it will lack most of the information.

But if you will give one or more than one proper command that it must follow to write a good seo optimized article, how to write it, what to not write in it etc. then we can get a good result and if we read their docs like the docs of chatgpt we will understand what they are doing on which command.

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December 21, 2025, 06:07:42 AM
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What will some people believe when they see this:

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They will sell bitcoin and ethereum but buy solana  Grin

When AI disappoint them, they will know that solana will go in bitcoin direction.

I saw this on one of the exchanges that I am using.

We know that AI often creates patterns based on past data, they create them without analyzing the fundamentals of the future. However, we should know that I think it would be completely foolish to sell Bitcoin and Ethereum to buy Solana. Because Bitcoin has a great future and Ethereum has a good future, these two coins are much more credible than Solana. Basically, Solana's marketing may have been exaggerated to increase so that people will invest so much. However, we know that there is no investment like Bitcoin in the crypto world yet, Bitcoin is the best investment for the long term, but Solana is not credible for long-term investment and holding.

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What will some people believe when they see this:



They will sell bitcoin and ethereum but buy solana  Grin
When AI disappoint them, they will know that solana will go in bitcoin direction.
I've never been a fan of AI or any trading bots for that matter, but in some few cases, it's possible that Bitcoin and Ethereum give a sell signal, while Solana gives a buy signal, using the same trading strategies. I've manually seen cases like that before, and it happens even with those core altcoins that often follow Bitcoin direction.

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I've never been a fan of AI or any trading bots for that matter, but in some few cases, it's possible that Bitcoin and Ethereum give a sell signal, while Solana gives a buy signal, using the same trading strategies. I've manually seen cases like that before, and it happens even with those core altcoins that often follow Bitcoin direction.
I intentionally posted this before the market made any move, solana and bitcoin all moved in the same direction after I posted this. They all moved up in price before falling again. It was very obvious on the chart that will likely happen because solana was not trending anymore at the time.

Also about what you posted, there have been time that a coin will move in the opposite direction to bitcoin, ethereum, solana, BNB and many other coins can do that but if you check their short time candles, the market can still be similar (not all the time) but just that the other coin will not fall much as bitcoin and increase more than bitcoin much more when bitcoin is increasing
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I've never been a fan of AI or any trading bots for that matter, but in some few cases, it's possible that Bitcoin and Ethereum give a sell signal, while Solana gives a buy signal, using the same trading strategies. I've manually seen cases like that before, and it happens even with those core altcoins that often follow Bitcoin direction.
I intentionally posted this before the market made any move, solana and bitcoin all moved in the same direction after I posted this. They all moved up in price before falling again. It was very obvious on the chart that will likely happen because solana was not trending anymore at the time.

Also about what you posted, there have been time that a coin will move in the opposite direction to bitcoin, ethereum, solana, BNB and many other coins can do that but if you check their short time candles, the market can still be similar (not all the time) but just that the other coin will not fall much as bitcoin and increase more than bitcoin much more when bitcoin is increasing

This only shows how volatile the crypto market is.  Even with sophisticated tools, we will have a hard time predicting the right trend for the next days.  AI is a tool dependent on the information found on the internet, so AI can have the possibility of absorbing fake news ( I have encountered this many times) worst is that in some situation, AI can even create its own information without any basis just to satisfy the inquiry of the person.  Imagine if the AI creates its own information to give the user without any factual support, that would be devastating, especially in trading.

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AI is heading away...

It is getting clearer that AI doesn't fit in all things. I believe its capabilities aren't enough to rely on, especially in making decisions. Some people are using this in gambling, which also shows its inaccurate predictions. It means that AI is becoming more challenging in situations that require data analysis. Instead of making money, it can now be the reason for our losses.

This suggests that we should utilize our knowledge and skills more effectively rather than relying on AI as a trading tool.

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December 21, 2025, 10:13:03 PM
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I've never been a fan of AI or any trading bots for that matter, but in some few cases, it's possible that Bitcoin and Ethereum give a sell signal, while Solana gives a buy signal, using the same trading strategies. I've manually seen cases like that before, and it happens even with those core altcoins that often follow Bitcoin direction.
I intentionally posted this before the market made any move, solana and bitcoin all moved in the same direction after I posted this. They all moved up in price before falling again. It was very obvious on the chart that will likely happen because solana was not trending anymore at the time.
It could happen your way, and on another day, it could happen differently. What matters is what the AI read at that time, which would be inline with the strategy coded in it. Is the strategy bad? That's another debate. But my point is that, there's no 100% correlation among the market assets, and whether they correlate or not in chart reading, they might still move in the same direction or in the opposite.

For instance, if you consider the last three daily candles of BTC and SOL charts below for your reading, I'm sure the signals would be different, as Bitcoin would read "Buy" and SOL would read "Sell." That is what I believe the AI read in real-time, regardless of what the two markets later did.




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December 21, 2025, 10:44:10 PM
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When AI disappoint them, they will know that solana will go in bitcoin direction.

I saw this on one of the exchanges that I am using.

AI should be used as a reference, not as the sole decision maker. Even with many technical analysis tools available, traders can still be wrong about market direction. AI is meant to assist us in evaluating situations and making more informed decisions before entering a trade. If an exchange provides AI-based analysis, it should align with market trends, which can be helpful. However, they should also clearly warn users that AI analysis is not 100% accurate and should not be fully relied upon.

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AI always gives importance to data. They make predictions based on the previous data, but AI can't make decisions like humans. The trading market is different because it is always influenced by humans' sentiment. Trading depending on AI is not always brings positive result. AI cannot even identify the movements of whale investors properly. Those who trade depending on AI lose their ability to analyze themselves. Many times, when there is a loss, they overtrade and want to blame it completely on AI. We know AI is a robot that has no ability to think like a human. It is maintained by humans, so there is no reason in relying entirely on it.

AI often analyzes based on trends, even emerging trends on social media, and I find this highly manipulative. Many decisions are made based on analyzing nonsense on social media. It's very dangerous to completely trust AI. This is very bad, and we'll lose a lot of money. I think we can only use AI to gather a lot of information quickly. Asking AI to make decisions is a very bad decision. It's better to analyze things ourselves, even if the results are bad, because we can learn and improve, rather than having AI analyze and then decide to buy coins on the exchange market based on AI's guidance.

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AI always gives importance to data. They make predictions based on the previous data, but AI can't make decisions like humans. The trading market is different because it is always influenced by humans' sentiment. Trading depending on AI is not always brings positive result. AI cannot even identify the movements of whale investors properly. Those who trade depending on AI lose their ability to analyze themselves. Many times, when there is a loss, they overtrade and want to blame it completely on AI. We know AI is a robot that has no ability to think like a human. It is maintained by humans, so there is no reason in relying entirely on it.

AI often analyzes based on trends, even emerging trends on social media, and I find this highly manipulative. Many decisions are made based on analyzing nonsense on social media. It's very dangerous to completely trust AI. This is very bad, and we'll lose a lot of money. I think we can only use AI to gather a lot of information quickly. Asking AI to make decisions is a very bad decision. It's better to analyze things ourselves, even if the results are bad, because we can learn and improve, rather than having AI analyze and then decide to buy coins on the exchange market based on AI's guidance.
A major mistake is using AI as a reference for decision-making. Furthermore if you frequently use AI it can make you less critical and make you dependent on it. This is certainly not good for your trading growth because successful traders are able to reset themselves and learn from their own trading experiences.

Essentially making decisions based on AI is a bad decision especially if you become dependent on your own bad decisions this will certainly hinder your trading growth and even lead to bankruptcy. Ideally, trading should be conducted with independent research. Using AI as a sophisticated technology to obtain information is not a problem, it becomes a problem when you trust AI to make decisions without collaborating with the results of independent research.

 
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