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December 03, 2025, 10:36:30 PM
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With the 31%  correction of bitcoin price from the all time high of $26,277 down to $85,000, a price action that have created a neutral direction of bitcoin price chart with projections of an incubating bear market manifest latest by 2026.

In this state of flux with bitcoin price, Grayscale, a large digital asset investment firm has predicted of bitcoin all time highs in 2026. The prediction made by Grayscale invalidates the four-year bitcoin circle with cited points for the prediction.

The key points
Absence of a parabolic rally.

Grayscale believes that bitcoin fundamentals have evolved with the dominance of institutional capital via bitcoin EFT, which has changed the market structure.

Amid macro factors support such as Fed Rate cuts, the firm expects bitcoin to reach all time highs in 2026.


What is interesting with this prediction is that it rejects the traditional four-year circle which bitcoin by historical data is belief to follow with peaks and major corrections every four years.

How feasible is Grayscale prediction is what we wait to confirm by 2026. Indeed the prediction provides a positive thrust for bitcoin investors to be optimistic. Further, it can be debated that Grayscale has a big investment in bitcoin and should not be expected to make negative prediction of bitcoin future. But, supposed the dynamics about the four-year circle are coherent beginning from 2026, will the significance of the bitcoin circle still shape market trend in the next years?


SOURCE. https://www.coinspeaker.com/grayscale-bitcoin-4-year-cycle-invalid-btc-ath-2026/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-says-bitcoin-4-cycle-134057362.html

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December 04, 2025, 01:49:05 AM
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I'm not hater and bearish, but I am curious if Grayscale and other asset manager companies will make more money/revenue if Bitcoin is bullish? For example, more customers will use their platform / ETFs, so more fees will come in.

Overall, they still have a point; if they have other bases like potential rate cuts, then it will be good for sure with Bitcoin and other markets like stocks. The 4-year cycle may be more or less effective or invalid already as they claimed it.

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December 04, 2025, 02:35:25 AM
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You can't expect Grayscale to be objective and therefore bearish. It's a crypto-focused business. It lives off a thriving crypto market. It always uses whatever influence it has to contribute hype. It's hard to imagine Grayscale releasing a negative forecast.

To be fair, however, it's not just Grayscale that claims the four-year cycle is dead. And they're possibly right that another ATH is coming next year, especially considering that Bitcoin had already lost 35% in the recent correction. It's that it was only a quick dip. Was that everything already? I doubt. That wasn't a season. There might be more dips to happen. The recovery we're seeing right now could just be a trap.

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December 04, 2025, 03:13:11 AM
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What is interesting with this prediction is that it rejects the traditional four-year circle which bitcoin by historical data is belief to follow with peaks and major corrections every four years.

I'm not sure about this, of course, I know Grayscale is a big institution and they have quite a large market capitalization. The last I knew, they had 167,551.4 BTC, which is a lot and could potentially create a shock if sold. But they are predicting an ATH, which means there will be investors coming in. However, the current global economic conditions are still not good. I believe investors prefer to wait. It's too risky to enter a market that is not supported by fundamental or technical conditions. So far, I still trust in the halving cycle and ATH, so currently, I'm starting to store stable coins and hope to add more when the price drops. Anyone can predict, it could be right or wrong, let's see.

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December 04, 2025, 03:42:24 AM
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In my opinion the famous 4-year cycle (not circle) died back in 2020 when the first major global recession took place due to the pandemic and stopped the bitcoin price rally to reach a ATH with a bubble and then burst to crash the market. That cycle ended without finishing and market entered a bear market because of recession (unlike previous cycles which entered bear market because of the bubble).

What we have in 2025 is similar. The rally that should have continued to reach a new ATH with a bubble like the traditional 4-year cycles we are used to in bitcoin market, ended (at least for the time being) because of the ongoing recession which is the result of global conflicts that the US regime keeps starting around the world during the past 3-4 years.

So if we continue rising after this "correction", then we can confidently say the 4-year cycle is still a thing and we can expect a new and high ATH in 2026 but if this "crash" leads to an actual bear market then 2026 could potentially be repetition of first half of 2020 where price goes down because of global economic hardship and recession.

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December 04, 2025, 04:10:48 AM
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In my opinion the famous 4-year cycle (not circle) died back in 2020 when the first major global recession took place due to the pandemic and stopped the bitcoin price rally to reach a ATH with a bubble and then burst to crash the market. That cycle ended without finishing and market entered a bear market because of recession (unlike previous cycles which entered bear market because of the bubble).

What we have in 2025 is similar. The rally that should have continued to reach a new ATH with a bubble like the traditional 4-year cycles we are used to in bitcoin market, ended (at least for the time being) because of the ongoing recession which is the result of global conflicts that the US regime keeps starting around the world during the past 3-4 years.

So if we continue rising after this "correction", then we can confidently say the 4-year cycle is still a thing and we can expect a new and high ATH in 2026 but if this "crash" leads to an actual bear market then 2026 could potentially be repetition of first half of 2020 where price goes down because of global economic hardship and recession.
I get where you’re coming from, but however, I wouldn’t say that the cycle died in 2020. What I believe happened is that, rather than dying, the cycle only stretched. The halving as know still led to quite a massive rally, but just not as earlier as intended. Rather than compressing the blow off into 2020, the stimulus liquidity delayed it top into 2021, the pattern was only delayed and not broken as you said.

If the price is able to recover and still maintains an upward trend after the correction, then it’s a sign that the halving driven rhythm is still very much intact, maybe only distorted but not broken. But if the price correction continues and eventually fades into a multi year downturn, without touching a new ATH, then we can confidently say and agree that your assertion that external recession has killed the cycle is actually valid.

In my own opinion, I think the cycle may have actually been given a chance to evolve and mature. Previously, Bitcoin behaved like a kind of a closed system where the halvings were dominant. But today, it has evolved to a more global macro asset, although halvings still very much matter, but only at a point when the global macro environment allows speculation to thrive, meaning that a delayed ATH into 2026 is pretty much perfectly consistent with history, regardless of the fact that the climb has become less dramatic and more irregular than the historical blow off tops we’ve seen.

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December 04, 2025, 07:19:45 AM
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In my opinion the famous 4-year cycle (not circle) died back in 2020 when the first major global recession took place due to the pandemic and stopped the bitcoin price rally to reach a ATH with a bubble and then burst to crash the market. That cycle ended without finishing and market entered a bear market because of recession (unlike previous cycles which entered bear market because of the bubble).

What we have in 2025 is similar. The rally that should have continued to reach a new ATH with a bubble like the traditional 4-year cycles we are used to in bitcoin market, ended (at least for the time being) because of the ongoing recession which is the result of global conflicts that the US regime keeps starting around the world during the past 3-4 years.

So if we continue rising after this "correction", then we can confidently say the 4-year cycle is still a thing and we can expect a new and high ATH in 2026 but if this "crash" leads to an actual bear market then 2026 could potentially be repetition of first half of 2020 where price goes down because of global economic hardship and recession.
No market cycles are the same but Bitcoin cycles since 2009 have kind of clear fractal that is enough to say Bitcoin market still moves in its own cycle pattern. Time for ATH and bottom can be different as same as price ROIs in different cycle are different too but the patter is quite clear.

Another view.

We can not time the market, can not predict market ATH and bottom but understand about the market cycle, its pattern, average time for reaching ATH to making bottom can help us having better investment plan for our bitcoin accumulation and also withdrawal with profit.

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December 04, 2025, 08:15:19 AM
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With the 31%  correction of bitcoin price from the all time high of $26,277

I guess you may wanted to write $126,277 instead of 26,277 mistaken, you can edit the OP and make the necessary correction.

a price action that have created a neutral direction of bitcoin price chart with projections of an incubating bear market manifest latest by 2026.

I think you got the idea here, there's more likely possibility of the market going bearish by the year 2026, however, there is no fact or certainty that it has to be in year 2026 before we fully emerged into the bear season, it may extend further to 2027 as we may have it.
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December 04, 2025, 08:31:38 AM
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I think this post needs to be on a speculation board, other than that - we will see, I can't be sure what happens the next day, yet alone next few months or years with BTC.

As of now, adoption rapidly comes for BTC, and maybe, just maybe, the usual cyclic nature that we all know and love will change, but as of now, I stick to the old ways.

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December 04, 2025, 09:23:45 AM
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I'm not hater and bearish, but I am curious if Grayscale and other asset manager companies will make more money/revenue if Bitcoin is bullish? For example, more customers will use their platform / ETFs, so more fees will come in.
Apparently these assets managers companies will be making profit in a bullish momentum which is not exclusively beneficial to them only but, equally to all bitcoin investors.

Overall, they still have a point; if they have other bases like potential rate cuts, then it will be good for sure with Bitcoin and other markets like stocks. The 4-year cycle may be more or less effective or invalid already as they claimed it.
You see what I mean. With all that more expected positive news from supportive states and central government cryptocurrency reserve legislations by next year, and the fed rate cuts altogether we can expect the highs.

So if we continue rising after this "correction", then we can confidently say the 4-year cycle is still a thing and we can expect a new and high ATH in 2026 but if this "crash" leads to an actual bear market then 2026 could potentially be repetition of first half of 2020 where price goes down because of global economic hardship and recession.
Each bitcoin major downtime corrections has subsequently been launched with a negative event that defines a bear market crash, like the flash crash in 2020 aka Black Thursday that forced bitcoin price to crash below $4,000 and, in 2022 the collapse of FTX was another defining event which had a big impact in not just bitcoin but cryptocurrency market price going down.

The market amber light are showing flashing signs of a potential price rise in 2026 with all the macro economic flows into the cryptocurrency market, but the new bubble burst that may usher in a bitcoin bear market could be from a geopolitical conflict angle differently from other past defining market cycles.

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December 04, 2025, 02:11:43 PM
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A parabolic cycle is not the single factor which determines the Bitcoin cycle, I would
argue that there is only 1 event which signals the Bitcoin 4 year cycle and thats the Halving
event itself.

Its a big change in Bitcoins supply every 4 years but arguably the effect of each
event gets less and less which feeds into the notion that the cycles will become
less pronounced as each halving happens. We will have to wait and see if that
transpires.

More ATH's in 2026, great! but if they dont happen its not a deal breaker for me.


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December 04, 2025, 02:15:33 PM
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How feasible is Grayscale prediction is what we wait to confirm by 2026

If you ask me how feasible grayscale prediction is, I'll tell you it is just like every other brilliant bitcoiner's prediction on the market. They probably think they know where the price is going with no certainty, and most times, they lack data to show their reasons. Big institutions have a huge influence currently in the market, but at the same time, how they plan for the market to go may not also be directed in that way.

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December 04, 2025, 03:53:17 PM
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This prediction is going to invalidate the known four years cycle of Bitcoin if it is successful but the prediction of other experts was invalidated by changes in the price of Bitcoin during the other market cycles, so I'm not sure how well this will happen unless there's going to be a bold adoption of Bitcoin by the governments that are planning to make Bitcoin a federal reserve and also if the countries that are very interested on Bitcoin starts to make Bitcoin a legal tender just like el Salvador did. About the bold adoption, if they start buying large amount of Bitcoin and make announcement, it's possible that this prediction will happen.
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December 04, 2025, 04:04:27 PM
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I don't fully know why Grayscales believe what they do, but what I believe is that bitcoin is a financial asset and financial assets behave the way the economic players behave. The cycle is not the only thing that determine if bitcoin would be bullish of bearish, a lot of other factors might come into play that will determine the demand for bitcoin.
We can get to next year and see that the US are getting serious about a bitcoin reserve, or that China has changed it's laws and trading bitcoin is no longer illegal. Things like this can increase the demand for bitcoin.

No one can be certain of how bitcoin will do a year from now. They can only speculate and that prediction and analysis is done using factors that might or might not happen, but there are mostly always factors that we don't put into the equation. Factors we never really know would happen.

In November and December of 2021, nobody really thought Russia will invade Ukraine the next year. That was a major part of the reason bitcoin got to about $16k that year.
The same can be said about COVID. A year before COVID hit, nobody would include the impact of an pandemic the next year on their analysis of bitcoin price the following year. This is why we can't really know which way the price will move. So, the cycle is not the only determinant. The difference with the cycle is that it's constant and consistent. We know when the halving will happen and we know that the supply will be half, so if the demand stays the same or increase, the price increases. With other factors, we can't tell when it will happen and which way exactly the market will react. A war might make people convert their savings to bitcoin or convert their bitcoin to cash, or it might not even affect it all. It is this inconsistency that makes it difficult to accurately predict.
What's funnier is that, the reaction of an event today, might be a different reaction to the same event a decade later.


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How feasible is Grayscale prediction is what we wait to confirm by 2026. Indeed the prediction provides a positive thrust for bitcoin investors to be optimistic. Further, it can be debated that Grayscale has a big investment in bitcoin and should not be expected to make negative prediction of bitcoin future. But, supposed the dynamics about the four-year circle are coherent beginning from 2026, will the significance of the bitcoin circle still shape market trend in the next years?

Yes Grayscale is equally one of the largest investors of Bitcoin, and in regards to that, who knows if this proposed Bitcoin prediction is a direct strategy to cause "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt" among average investors, so as to make the value of Bitcoin fall more so that they can accumulate more Bitcoin?. Because despite the fact that this previous month November 2025, the price of Bitcoin did fell drastically from $110k plus to now around $92k, I still have a great and strong feeling that in this 2026 we are about to enter in few days time, the price of Bitcoin will not fall below $70k, and also has a tendency to reach it's All Time High value too.

 
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But, supposed the dynamics about the four-year circle are coherent beginning from 2026, will the significance of the bitcoin circle still shape market trend in the next years?
We can still consider the Bitcoin cycle as a reference when making an analysis. However, it is also possible that changes occur due to market interest affecting it. Investors will certainly be more flexible in reading the opportunities in the market. But for those who trade or invest in the short or medium term, they may need to follow the market more closely. For those who invest long-term, it may not be as much of an influence.

 
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If you ask me how feasible grayscale prediction is, I'll tell you it is just like every other brilliant bitcoiner's prediction on the market. They probably think they know where the price is going with no certainty, and most times, they lack data to show their reasons. Big institutions have a huge influence currently in the market, but at the same time, how they plan for the market to go may not also be directed in that way.
Exactly this response. They will of course make prediction and just like all other predictions they have a possibility to be right and wrong. If we want to make sure that we are dealing with what we are dealing with, then its going to be something that will be random.

Can they be right? Of course they can be, everyone has a chance to be right. Can they be wrong? Of course, same as being right, its a totally random situation. This is why I never invest based on what others are saying. Personally I am still in hope of getting back to bull trend as I am confident about breaking four year cycle of bitcoin market this time. So, we are going to have prolong bullish trend. From that, I believe that we are still having chances to test $200k by mid of 2026.

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December 06, 2025, 10:42:50 AM
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Can they be right? Of course they can be, everyone has a chance to be right. Can they be wrong? Of course, same as being right, its a totally random situation. This is why I never invest based on what others are saying. Personally I am still in hope of getting back to bull trend as I am confident about breaking four year cycle of bitcoin market this time. So, we are going to have prolong bullish trend. From that, I believe that we are still having chances to test $200k by mid of 2026.

Yes, their predictions can be right or wrong.
Every investor must have their own convictions on the market direction, so don't he wont regret later. When you invest based on what others are saying, and the market direction goes the opposite way, it shows that you don't trust your knowledge on Bitcoin investment. I believe everyone has their investment strategies aligned with their goals, so don't follow others.

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December 08, 2025, 05:15:30 PM
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How feasible is Grayscale prediction is what we wait to confirm by 2026

If you ask me how feasible grayscale prediction is, I'll tell you it is just like every other brilliant bitcoiner's prediction on the market. They probably think they know where the price is going with no certainty, and most times, they lack data to show their reasons. Big institutions have a huge influence currently in the market, but at the same time, how they plan for the market to go may not also be directed in that way.

Surely, every investor, especially big time investors such as grayscale has a right to make predictions according to his believe or knowledge of bitcoin, so do you or any other. Offcourse people tend to listen to them because they have made name and are making wave in the bitcoin world. But that been said, following there predictions blindly without proper scrutiny might make you end in regrets, on the hand too, sometimes they might be all right too in there predictions.
So late leave it at, it may or may not happen. As it was called, its a prediction, not reality it a confirmed fact that is bound to happen. 2026 is at the corner, we will see for our selves soon. But for the main time, let me just keep up with a fairly DCA continuous buy and then Hodl

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December 09, 2025, 08:14:46 AM
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The key points
Absence of a parabolic rally.

Grayscale believes that bitcoin fundamentals have evolved with the dominance of institutional capital via bitcoin EFT, which has changed the market structure.

Amid macro factors support such as Fed Rate cuts, the firm expects bitcoin to reach all time highs in 2026.


What is interesting with this prediction is that it rejects the traditional four-year circle which bitcoin by historical data is belief to follow with peaks and major corrections every four years.

How feasible is Grayscale prediction is what we wait to confirm by 2026. Indeed the prediction provides a positive thrust for bitcoin investors to be optimistic. Further, it can be debated that Grayscale has a big investment in bitcoin and should not be expected to make negative prediction of bitcoin future.

Don't act like this institution is the one that's bringing about the bitcoin ETF and the institutional adoptions up to you. These had been bitcoin crypto dynamic structure that has been active in the bitcoin industry for the past few years now which has also been a strong key drive of volatilities.
Strategy who is the highest accumulated bitcoin has as much made his own speculations about their own bitcoin price but to nowhere have we seen it.
Other institutions and economist analysts had also made their speculations and so as some whalers has also aired their views about what was seem possible for bitcoin to actualize with all their considered analysis and data collections referring to the 4 years cycles but to non had come to be actualized realistically.
And while every bitcoineers will always stay positive pertaining bitcoin, let's be sure all these anticipation of big wins can only be achieved in the long term.

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