SageSwap.io - The Privacy-First, KYC-free, NO-JS, Swap Service!

[SageSwap]

NO KYC • NO JavaScript • NO Logs • NO Money Freeze!

I'm stoked to share SageSwap, a new platform we've been working on for swapping crypto without all the usual nonsense. You know how it is with some exchanges - KYC up to your eyeballs, JavaScript tracking you, frozen funds, or crazy fees. SageSwap is built for people who value privacy and just want to swap their coins hassle-free.

With SageSwap, you can swap stuff like XMR, DASH, USDT/C, BTC, ETH, LTC, and a bunch more without signing up or giving away your life story. No logs, No JavaScript, just a clean, secure setup. If something goes wrong with your swap, we've got your back with free refunds!

We believe cryptocurrencies represent freedom, and freedom demands privacy. In a world full of surveillance and restrictions, SageSwap empowers users with full control of everything.

> https://SageSwap.io/faq

Privacy by deafult > Optional privacy.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and feedbacks!

SageSwap is now live!
https://SageSwap.io
https://SageSwap.cc

TOR: http://sageswap4ygi7k5e5gbnvhz2ldbprrelkkuourlp5vx6flfeypk4hvqd.onion

Escrow Guarantee: Click! ($2000)

See you on the other side, anon. 🟧

[SFR10]

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and feedbacks!

Did a partial test to see most of the steps, and it appears to be clean & simple, but I noticed there aren't any checks for using the same receiving address in the optional refund address field.
^{- BTW, the get rate button wasn't working before I created my first test swap (I'm not a coder, but there might be some backend conflicts).}

[SageSwap]

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and feedbacks!

Did a partial test to see most of the steps, and it appears to be clean & simple, but I noticed there aren't any checks for using the same receiving address in the optional refund address field.
^{- BTW, the get rate button wasn't working before I created my first test swap (I'm not a coder, but there might be some backend conflicts).}

Hi, thank you for your feedback!

We are aware of the refund address issue, it will likely be fixed in the next update, thank you for reminding us.

The “Get Rate” button sometimes takes 4-5 seconds to respond to a request. Since we do not use JavaScript, it can sometimes bug. We will try to fix this in the next update as well. 

[Potato Chips]

Nice to see a no-kyc exchange supporting decent amount of major alts particularly stables like USDTs.

But since you're new, it makes sense for folks to be wary of your service. Any chance you're willing to escrow some funds for just-in-case scenarios? A list of trusted escrows in the forum can be found 👉 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047302.0

[SageSwap]

Nice to see a no-kyc exchange supporting decent amount of major alts particularly stables like USDTs.

But since you're new, it makes sense for folks to be wary of your service. Any chance you're willing to escrow some funds for just-in-case scenarios? A list of trusted escrows in the forum can be found 👉 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047302.0

Hi, thanks for the advice!

We will definitely deposit money in escrow in the future to make users feel more secure. For now, I'll add it to the TODO list, and maybe after the new year we'll decide to deposit the money 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Looks like a solid service. I have just checked it out, minus carrying out any transaction yet, so when it comes to trusting it, this might take some time. However, I would like to point out that the minimum values are not pegged to the coin being converted but rather just to $13 USD. Could we just have the minimums get displayed in the cryptocurrency that is being converted instead of just USD?

[SageSwap]

Looks like a solid service. I have just checked it out, minus carrying out any transaction yet, so when it comes to trusting it, this might take some time. However, I would like to point out that the minimum values are not pegged to the coin being converted but rather just to $13 USD. Could we just have the minimums get displayed in the cryptocurrency that is being converted instead of just USD?

Hi, thanks for those nice words

The thing you mentioned will definitely appear in the future. We have it on our TODO list somewhere with low priority. Currently, we are focusing on introducing the API as soon as possible.

After I post on bitcointalk, the first successful transactions began to start. I hope that some of you who are making the swap will share your positive or negative feedbacks!

[hugeblack]

Can you add a letter of guarantee (PGP SIGNED MESSAGE) to prove that the deposit address belongs to the service?
Sign a message to prove reserves?

What happens if amounts less/more than the deposit amount are sent?

I read this part

No. We do not accept stolen, hacked, or otherwise illicit funds. However, unlike other platforms, we do not freeze assets

So the service do AML_checks addresses before processing. Is there a case in which transactions can be frozen?

[SageSwap]

Hi, thanks for your feedback!

Can you add a letter of guarantee (PGP SIGNED MESSAGE) to prove that the deposit address belongs to the service?

Just like mixers do? Yes, we may do that in the future.

Sign a message to prove reserves?

Physically, we are unable to do this due to the nature of our business. Our reserves are distributed across XXX wallets to make them difficult to identify, especially USDT. We do not have permanent hot wallets or wallets where you will find large amounts of money they are split across several others. We also do this so that no one can mark our money as dirty and so that our customers do not receive money mark as a dirty with 100% AML.

What happens if amounts less/more than the deposit amount are sent?

If you send less, we recommend contact support immediately so you don't lose your money. If you send too much, depending on the coin, the swap should be processed without any problems. If you don't receive your coins within a few minutes, please contact support. We also explain this in the FAQ.

No. We do not accept stolen, hacked, or otherwise illicit funds. However, unlike other platforms, we do not freeze assets

So the service do AML_checks addresses before processing. Is there a case in which transactions can be frozen?

No, if the transaction is flagged by our AML, you will simply receive a refund to the address you provided when creating the transaction. If you did not provide an address, after contacting support and sending them your refund address, you will get your money back. Of course, everything is #kyc-free and the refund is free of charge, as explained in our FAQ.

Refunds are sent by our team, so the sending time can be up to 24 hours.

[bxae00]

Hi everyone,

Yesterday I managed to exchange $50 but I decided to wait with the opinion to see how you will respond to the questions of my friends above, today I can share that everything was without any problems, I got my litecoin in 4/5 minutes. I will definitely visit again soon )

[SageSwap]

Hi everyone,

Yesterday I managed to exchange $50 but I decided to wait with the opinion to see how you will respond to the questions of my friends above, today I can share that everything was without any problems, I got my litecoin in 4/5 minutes. I will definitely visit again soon )

Hi, thanks for your feedback!

We are glad that everything went your way. I hope we will see each other again.

[Trêvoid]

Hello, welcome to the forum. I did a quick check and wanted to ask you’re not a whiteBIT reseller, right? Do you have your own reserves?  

Also, when you mentioned if something was “flagged by our AML,” could you clarify which AML provider you’re using?  

Lastly, do you have any connection with Devil.Exchange ? The website design looks kind of similar.

Also thread creation looks kind of similar to me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561334.0)

[sunsilk]

I haven't used yet the service but went through some information about FAQ. About the wrong amount, the other swaps usually just converts it automatically if the user have sent the wrong amount but it will take time.

Maybe an hour or two to adjust the rates if the set amount didn't received but less/more.

Also about the stolen funds, I wonder how you're going to determine that if the crypto sent and swapped under your platform is stolen or not.

[SageSwap]

Hi, thank you for your questions. We are happy to answer them.

Hello, welcome to the forum. I did a quick check and wanted to ask you’re not a whiteBIT reseller, right? Do you have your own reserves?

We are not anyone's reseller, we use funds that we have raised through our other projects.

Also, when you mentioned if something was “flagged by our AML,” could you clarify which AML provider you’re using?

For security reasons, we do not disclose any information about the systems we use. However, we can assure you that if the AML during a transaction jumps to a very high level, the transaction will be returned to the specified refund address without the need for doing KYC.

Lastly, do you have any connection with Devil.Exchange ? The website design looks kind of similar.

Also thread creation looks kind of similar to me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561334.0)

We do not know the devil.exchange team and we are not affiliated with them. The likely design of the website is the same because none of us use JavaScript, which makes it difficult to style the website.

Devil.exchange does not have its own reserves, has different fees, and states in its FAQ that it is non-custodial? This is strange because they can manipulate where the funds go.

The topic may seem similar due to the bold text and the line, but the rest of the post is completely different.

[SageSwap]

I haven't used yet the service but went through some information about FAQ. About the wrong amount, the other swaps usually just converts it automatically if the user have sent the wrong amount but it will take time.

Maybe an hour or two to adjust the rates if the set amount didn't received but less/more.

Also about the stolen funds, I wonder how you're going to determine that if the crypto sent and swapped under your platform is stolen or not.

Hi, thank you for your questions.

We have already answered this question above. It all depends on the coin used in the swap. Usually, the swap will be accepted and done, but it may happen that the swap will not go through. In that case, you will need to contact our support team to get a refund. Of course, the refund is without KYC and free of charge.

If the AML is high, the swap will not go through and we will be forced to make a refund. If a refund address was entered when creating the transaction, our team will arrange for the money to be sent within 24 hours. However, if no addres was provided, the user will be required to contact support and provide a addres to which we will send the funds. Of course, in this case, KYC will not be necessary and the refund will be free of charge.

[SageSwap]

Quick update: We have been verified on Monerica.com! Thank you to the entire team for such a quick verification.

https://monerica.com/exchanges/non-kyc-exchanges/sageswap

[hugeblack]

For security reasons, we do not disclose any information about the systems we use. However, we can assure you that if the AML during a transaction jumps to a very high level, the transaction will be returned to the specified refund address without the need for doing KYC.

However, this means that all transaction details are shared with a third party, so there's no point in mentioning "no logs." If you create a tool that verifies transactions without needing a third party, then using "no logs" would be beneficial.
I'll try the service to verify the source of the coins and analyze how they work, I hope you'll add funds for escrow, something like that ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549370.msg65620017#msg65620017

But honestly, if you're relying on your own reserves, the service would be an excellent option. Good luck.

[NotATether]

Welcome!

I would like to test your service and then publish it on BitMixList. Would that be possible?

Also, I sent you an email.

[SageSwap]

Hi, thank you for your feedbacks! 

For security reasons, we do not disclose any information about the systems we use. However, we can assure you that if the AML during a transaction jumps to a very high level, the transaction will be returned to the specified refund address without the need for doing KYC.

However, this means that all transaction details are shared with a third party, so there's no point in mentioning "no logs." If you create a tool that verifies transactions without needing a third party, then using "no logs" would be beneficial.
I'll try the service to verify the source of the coins and analyze how they work, I hope you'll add funds for escrow, something like that ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549370.msg65620017#msg65620017

But honestly, if you're relying on your own reserves, the service would be an excellent option. Good luck.

You are kind of right, by saying “No logs” we meant that WE do not collect any data about you besides the one we need to complete the transaction. Unfortunately, we cannot control third-party services, but we can come to an agreed solution with them. In the case of the AML service, we have agreed that they only receive the address from which the transaction is sent in order to analyze it in real time. After analysis, they only store your AML score and addres information for 10 days, after which the information is deleted.

As for escrow, we have already commented on this. It sounds great to make users feel safer, so we will probably deposit some money into escrow after the new year.

Welcome!

I would like to test your service and then publish it on BitMixList. Would that be possible?

Also, I sent you an email.

We would love it if you could add us to BitMixList.

Our support team will likely respond to your email within a few minutes/hours, but the fastest way to contact us is always via Session or Signal.

[sunsilk]

I haven't used yet the service but went through some information about FAQ. About the wrong amount, the other swaps usually just converts it automatically if the user have sent the wrong amount but it will take time.

Maybe an hour or two to adjust the rates if the set amount didn't received but less/more.

Also about the stolen funds, I wonder how you're going to determine that if the crypto sent and swapped under your platform is stolen or not.

Hi, thank you for your questions.

We have already answered this question above. It all depends on the coin used in the swap. Usually, the swap will be accepted and done, but it may happen that the swap will not go through. In that case, you will need to contact our support team to get a refund. Of course, the refund is without KYC and free of charge.

If the AML is high, the swap will not go through and we will be forced to make a refund. If a refund address was entered when creating the transaction, our team will arrange for the money to be sent within 24 hours. However, if no addres was provided, the user will be required to contact support and provide a addres to which we will send the funds. Of course, in this case, KYC will not be necessary and the refund will be free of charge.

Alright, thanks for clarifying and that's clearer now.

Basically, what services like you guys always check the AML score of the transaction and if there's a red flag on it, it will be refunded automatically.

No more questions and I like the uniqueness of your design, I find it odd compared to the others that I've used but it's fine and nice.