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December 25, 2025, 05:51:13 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
So you think big investors are stupid?

The only way an investor will invest big money, later to take it out when it is less, is due to their lack of knowledge of Bitcoin. I won't blame you, though, maybe because you row around with people who later take out their investment due to panic. And oftentimes they end being on loss. The reason is that they did not have an investment goal. An investment goal helps investor stay in line with their investment, no matter the circumstances. They keep things in place, the necessary things, even before they start their investment.
The idea that small investors often walk away with larger relative gains while big investors struggle is less about intelligence and more about pressure and positioning. Small capital allows flexibility and patience because there is no immediate threat to daily life if price moves against them. When someone invests a large portion of their wealth or borrowed funds the emotional weight changes everything. They are no longer watching price as an opportunity but as a threat to stability. That pressure forces decisions at the worst possible moments. Illiquidity also plays a role because large entries and exits move markets and expose timing risk. Small investors can average quietly while large ones are noticed by the market. None of this makes big investors stupid it just means their margin for error is smaller. Without a clear plan large capital amplifies mistakes instead of smoothing them out.
I don't think that idea is right. Unless for those that are into bitcoin to make quick profit, that is traders. For real investors who are in with long term mindset this idea is wrong because the amount of bitcoin they are able to accumulate over the years and hold determine the profits they will make and how much profit they stand to make depends on volatility. It is wrong to invest borrowed money or money that is supposed to be used for daily expenses for bitcoin investment as maybe push to sell before the time we plan to.

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December 25, 2025, 07:18:04 PM
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The idea that small investors often walk away with larger relative gains while big investors struggle is less about intelligence and more about pressure and positioning. Small capital allows flexibility and patience because there is no immediate threat to daily life if price moves against them. When someone invests a large portion of their wealth or borrowed funds the emotional weight changes everything. They are no longer watching price as an opportunity but as a threat to stability. That pressure forces decisions at the worst possible moments. Illiquidity also plays a role because large entries and exits move markets and expose timing risk. Small investors can average quietly while large ones are noticed by the market. None of this makes big investors stupid it just means their margin for error is smaller. Without a clear plan large capital amplifies mistakes instead of smoothing them out.
That is just the opposite. A small investor may have done it because that is all they have, someone investing 2k is not doing that because they have a million dollars and only putting 2k into it, they are doing it because 2k is all they can afford. Whereas someone putting a million into it, do not do it because that's all they have, they have much more and only putting a million in for fun.

So it is possible that if someone invest small, they have nothing else and it's harder for them to make money from it or wait for it to go up and they make more mistakes that way. It's clear that we can make more money by being a lot more careful and could profit from it a lot easier that way if we have a bigger capital to invest.

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December 25, 2025, 08:18:30 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?

It's quite the opposite, those who put small money and take it out big is those who hold for many years. We have seen that kind of phenomenon already, early investors and then probably didn't know about it or doesn't care about their investment but let it sit for at least 10 years or so and then one day sold off for millions of dollars.

But those who put big money is obviously, equate to get big money but just investing on one whole cycle or 4 years at least. That's how some of them really become millionaire too on how they structured their investment and then sold off during the bull run.

So not sure how you come up with this kind of argument though. It's just better to invest how much money you can and you will be good.


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December 25, 2025, 08:20:19 PM
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First of all I want to let you know that crypto space it's not a get rich overnight. I don't know why most newbie normally reason this way
Most newbies see crypto space as a Ponzi scheme, and it’s just because they lack proper knowledge about crypto. Most of them just go on social media and they see people posting about how they earn from crypto, some of them will post image of huge amount of money, and they going to claim it was earned from crypto space. Videos and posts like this is what pushes some people into crypto space, and they don’t even know the risk involve in either trading or investing in bitcoin.

Most newbies gets to understand things after joining the crypto space and they not really earning the way they expected, instead they are losing, then they will understand the reality.
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December 25, 2025, 10:49:13 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
You should never invest in crypto with debt because if you invest in crypto with debt, there will come a time when you have to sell the investment at a loss to repay the loan, and this happens to most people. When a person borrows money, that person can lend for one month, two months, five months or a year, when one month, two months etc. becomes a year, then if the lender wants to take back the loan and at that time the market is in a dumping phase due to volatility, then at that time you have to sell at a loss to repay the loan. Moreover, those who invest in small amounts and expect to earn big money, always lose their money because they always expect to earn big money by investing in shitcoins or meme coins.

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December 25, 2025, 11:26:27 PM
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That doesn't make sense  Huh If you put nothing on crypto surely your not going to get anything, if you put a small amount for sure you are going to still earn but it wasn't going to be huge for sure, if you put high amount for sure you are going to earn high amount as well it is just not something that is guaranteed because it would still depend on how you are going to handle your investment if you sell at the wrong time then you are going to lose, It is just a matter of high risk then high reward.

I mean investing small amount is going to work if you are going to do somekind of Dollar Cost Averaging its the most effective strategy for sure, your not gonna force to sell anything, it is just a matter of having the financial foundation in my opinion, those investors who are forced to sell are just people who doesn't have any kind of emergency funds, or any kind of savings, that is why they are forced to sell when they get an emergency if you are going to ask me that is not smart investing, you shouldn't invest on something like cryptocurrency yet if you still don't have the financial foundation.

 
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December 25, 2025, 11:48:12 PM
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In accuracy and improper classification of bitcoin investment, for me I think if you put big amount you take home bigger profit and not the other way round as you say it, bitcoin is not a guarantee investment but if you put money in bitcoin the bigger it is the more it's likely to return back, why because those who have made all those claims about bitcoin are people with wrong investments plans and have no clue of it just because others are making profit they then to do same. people should stop making stupid claims about bitcoin and seek goo knowledge before tubing into debt in bitcoin claiming bitcoin ruin them.

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December 26, 2025, 02:29:20 AM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
What you said about comparing investment funds isn't entirely true, nor is it entirely wrong. I'm not judging you because the terms can be viewed from several perspectives. From my perspective, the larger the funds I invest, the greater my profits.
I'm a short-term, even daily, investor. I'm not talking about losses because that's a different context. If we invest a small amount, there are times when we can make large profits, such as buying memecoins and truly holding them, only to sell them when the price peaks.

Regarding using borrowed funds for investment, stop, my friend, it's dangerous. If the wrong time comes and the invested funds have to be returned while the market is in turmoil, then it's over!

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December 26, 2025, 08:32:43 AM
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If we invest a small amount, there are times when we can make large profits, such as buying memecoins and truly holding them, only to sell them when the price peaks.

Regarding using borrowed funds for investment, stop, my friend, it's dangerous. If the wrong time comes and the invested funds have to be returned while the market is in turmoil, then it's over!
Small amount or big amount, if you invest into altcoin (it can be anything like meme or defi or anything), you get only less than 1% chances to get back your capital. I am just saying backed by what most of this community members and personally myself have experienced. Not limited with memecoins, any altcoin will not be suitable for long term investing. You may aim for quick trading and if you are lucky, you may get profits and still not at all recommended as per what this community as a whole experienced.

Loans are never meant for investments. If you plan to invest through a loan, basically we are breaching an agreement as per my country's law. Loans are coming with monthly commitments and we may go for DCA with that same commitment. Being patience is more important in investing, loans may look like a saviour against being patient but in reality it doesn't.


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December 26, 2025, 08:39:16 AM
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It's quite the opposite, those who put small money and take it out big is those who hold for many years. We have seen that kind of phenomenon already, early investors and then probably didn't know about it or doesn't care about their investment but let it sit for at least 10 years or so and then one day sold off for millions of dollars.

But those who put big money is obviously, equate to get big money but just investing on one whole cycle or 4 years at least. That's how some of them really become millionaire too on how they structured their investment and then sold off during the bull run.

So not sure how you come up with this kind of argument though. It's just better to invest how much money you can and you will be good.

That's only true if you become an investor very early on, buy Bitcoin at an extremely low price, and hold it for many years. If you don't belong to that group, you're unlikely to become a millionaire by investing a small amount of capital, even if you hold that investment for decades. Currently, I don't think anyone will become a millionaire simply by investing thousands of dollars in bitcoin, regardless of how long they hold it.

To make huge profits and become a millionaire with bitcoin these days, we need a lot of money or an extremely smart investment strategy. There's no way to get rich quickly with bitcoin because the era of getting rich fast with small amounts of money is over.

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December 26, 2025, 03:18:29 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
You should never invest in crypto with debt because if you invest in crypto with debt, there will come a time when you have to sell the investment at a loss to repay the loan, and this happens to most people. When a person borrows money, that person can lend for one month, two months, five months or a year, when one month, two months etc. becomes a year, then if the lender wants to take back the loan and at that time the market is in a dumping phase due to volatility, then at that time you have to sell at a loss to repay the loan. Moreover, those who invest in small amounts and expect to earn big money, always lose their money because they always expect to earn big money by investing in shitcoins or meme coins.

Loans for investment are never a good idea because it is the most wrong idea. Those who will invest must keep a separate capital. If you invest with loans, it is seen that when you cannot return the money, due to market instability, you are forced to sell your invested Bitcoin and suffer a loss. To invest, you must save some amount from your half so that even if there is instability in the market, you are not interested in selling them later. You should not invest with loans for a long time and you should not invest with all the money. This will not be a good sign at all. In that case, save money separately for investment and invest later. Moreover, many people invest in shitcoins in the hope of making a large profit for a short time, which loses their money. This is completely risky. However, we know that it is better to invest in Bitcoin for a long time, it will not lose money at all, but will provide a good profit in the future.

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December 26, 2025, 03:54:15 PM
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To start small and ended being big is very possible in crypto, but we have to know how this can be achieved, because not everyone who is into this are making it the way its being said.

Also, its more likely possible for the long time holders to make more profits at the end because they have the patience in holding till the value rises to what they wanted before selling out, traders can also get it right and trade to profits within a short period of time.
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December 26, 2025, 04:19:19 PM
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To start small and ended being big is very possible in crypto, but we have to know how this can be achieved, because not everyone who is into this are making it the way its being said.

Also, its more likely possible for the long time holders to make more profits at the end because they have the patience in holding till the value rises to what they wanted before selling out, traders can also get it right and trade to profits within a short period of time.
Yes, an increase in the amount we've accumulated from the beginning is possible, as there's always a chance for it to happen. But before that, we need to consider other factors, as some people fail in this regard, and the opposite occurs.

Both short-term and long-term have their own risks. What we need to pay attention to is finances, where we must be able to manage them well. Even if the results increase, that doesn't mean financial management isn't important.

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December 26, 2025, 04:32:22 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?

I don’t think that is how crypto works. As far as someone invested in a good project, the bigger the amount invested, the bigger the profits someone will make. The smaller someone invested, the smaller the profit it will be. Those people we do see making big profits with their small amount invested are just lucky, and it is very few. They always get that kind of luck. So, if someone wants to make big profits from a coin like Bitcoin, they have to invest a big amount of money.

If someone borrows money to invest in Bitcoin when the market is down, it is very possible for such a person to panic, and that can lead someone to sell their Bitcoin at the wrong time. That is the reason why we are not advised to borrow money to invest in crypto, because it is unpredictable. So, it is always better to invest the money we can afford to lose.
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December 26, 2025, 04:47:33 PM
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What do you think ?
There are many types of cryptocurrencies. What specifically? If you put money in Bitcoin and some of it in other potential coins, I believe they will attract according to the level of patience (hold) they do.
I'm more interested if the focus is more specific or if the main point is Bitcoin. If you have a significant amount of Bitcoin and are prepared to hold it for the long term, the potential returns from price appreciation can be substantial. The key point here is that the cryptocurrency space is not about get-rich-quick schemes or becoming wealthy overnight.
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December 26, 2025, 05:32:16 PM
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What do you think ?
There are many types of cryptocurrencies. What specifically? If you put money in Bitcoin and some of it in other potential coins, I believe they will attract according to the level of patience (hold) they do.
I'm more interested if the focus is more specific or if the main point is Bitcoin. If you have a significant amount of Bitcoin and are prepared to hold it for the long term, the potential returns from price appreciation can be substantial. The key point here is that the cryptocurrency space is not about get-rich-quick schemes or becoming wealthy overnight.
If someone wants to focus on investing, I don't think they need to focus on a wide variety of coins if one coin like Bitcoin is sufficient. Because those coins considered potential won't increase sharply if Bitcoin experiences a price correction, such as a decline. This means that there's no guarantee specifically for most coins other than Bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus directly on a more specific coin like Bitcoin. And the closest example is now, where Bitcoin has yet to experience a price increase after last month's crash.

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December 27, 2025, 12:52:07 PM
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There are many types of cryptocurrencies. What specifically? If you put money in Bitcoin and some of it in other potential coins, I believe they will attract according to the level of patience (hold) they do.
I'm more interested if the focus is more specific or if the main point is Bitcoin. If you have a significant amount of Bitcoin and are prepared to hold it for the long term, the potential returns from price appreciation can be substantial. The key point here is that the cryptocurrency space is not about get-rich-quick schemes or becoming wealthy overnight.
If someone wants to focus on investing, I don't think they need to focus on a wide variety of coins if one coin like Bitcoin is sufficient. Because those coins considered potential won't increase sharply if Bitcoin experiences a price correction, such as a decline. This means that there's no guarantee specifically for most coins other than Bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus directly on a more specific coin like Bitcoin. And the closest example is now, where Bitcoin has yet to experience a price increase after last month's crash.
This applies if the person has sufficient knowledge of the types of coins available in the crypto space. Then the focus is only on Bitcoin and not necessarily on others because the meaning of not putting all your eggs in one basket can be interpreted as diversifying assets in Bitcoin and outside of crypto, such as gold and assets in other fields.

Every asset can experience growth and maintain its value. Bitcoin price increases and decreases can occur outside of predicted times, which is called volatility. It may differ from other assets in terms of volatility.
That's why I say that Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it's a mistake to think so.
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December 27, 2025, 04:16:37 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
You should never invest in crypto with debt because if you invest in crypto with debt, there will come a time when you have to sell the investment at a loss to repay the loan, and this happens to most people. When a person borrows money, that person can lend for one month, two months, five months or a year, when one month, two months etc. becomes a year, then if the lender wants to take back the loan and at that time the market is in a dumping phase due to volatility, then at that time you have to sell at a loss to repay the loan. Moreover, those who invest in small amounts and expect to earn big money, always lose their money because they always expect to earn big money by investing in shitcoins or meme coins.

It’s not really bad to borrow  money to invest in crypto if the borrower have other source of income through which the money can be paid back. It’s only going to be bad if the borrower is putting all his faith and trust in the performance of his crypto investments to be able to pay off the debt. Afterwards, there are so many investments or businesses that are doing well today if you look closely you’ll find out that the owner actually borrowed money to fund his business or investments. Crypto being such a highly volatile asset, it’s advisable when you borrowed to fund your crypto investment not to put your trust in it to pay back the loan, but if there’s other source you can get income then you can borrow to fund your crypto investment.

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December 27, 2025, 10:28:35 PM
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The rule "Those who put small money (or nothing) into crypto, take out big money - those who put big money into crypto, take out small money (or nothing)" seems to be true both objectively - because it is much easier to invest small amounts due to market illiquidity, and subjectively - because the person who have put the great proportion of his wealth (or even borrowed money) into crypto is often forced to sell in bad times.

What do you think ?
You must be wrong and with such mentality you believe in free money which doesn't exist anywhere in the world, alot of time, we tend to have the mentality also that those with si much money easily lose their money without any dip feelings but that is not so, because if their are not financially Smart they won't have made the money in the first place.

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