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December 20, 2025, 11:12:02 PM
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I agree discipline is the real edge,  everyone has access to the same charts and indicators now, what separates traders is how they behave under pressure, most accounts die from overtrading and revenge trades not from bad entries, a simple plan followed consistently beats a genius plan followed randomly.

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December 20, 2025, 11:49:19 PM
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If I should understand you very well, you mean trading is just about skills which begats skillw, it means trading is times consuming, and if anyone is want to go into trading, you don't have to just say I want to trade and start immediately, you'll ne needing much time to learn very wel get some skills before you can start.
Trading is all about skill and even though you have the skill, that does not guarantee you that you are going to be profitable from your trades. Skill is needed if you are a self exclaimed trader but there are other traders that are trading in group so you don't need all the whole skill for you to be profitable from your trades. Those that understand trading very well will be happy and enjoy their time being a trader.

You can have everything to make money from gambling but you can look at the condition of the market right now, it's so difficult to make a trade which is why you see a lot of traders complain about the market with "there is no good trades to take" and that'd because there is none in the market. Before you see a coin with 10% increase on any time frame right now, there must be something incredible going on with such coin else you will see nothing on the market.

How, there is something I have observed. I'm not sure if it's market manipulation or it's coincidence. There is always a coin that are traded the most on the market. I get notification about them pop up with 5-15% range increment everyday. If you are very skill like you said and you know everything about this market then money can be made from such coin, they have volume, they have big candles just that I feel it's all manipulated. You have to be careful not to get liquidated.

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December 21, 2025, 11:54:10 AM
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Everything will be destroyed if a trader still can't ignore the greed in him, no matter how good your planning and your strategy in the end it will be useless and what happens is they will still end the session with a loss, so this is the reason why greed and various other impulsive actions must be avoided, whether you want it or not.
I understand what you mean that often discipline is lost when a trader has made a profit, they become very greedy and actually it happens because their awareness begins to fade about the fact that the market is high risk, so awareness is also very important to maintain.

I think a trader should analyze the market properly and if the plan is correct then definitely profit. But most of the times it is seen that for the market to remain risky, the analysis does not work properly. So should be divided into few steps. example : step 1, step 2, etc. If we are willing to lean higher after different strategies, then the number of steps will continue to increase. As you say you have to ignore greed in trading, but we know every trader trades only for profit. However we should take awareness while trading. If we follow the rules, many risks will be reduced.

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December 21, 2025, 02:23:00 PM
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You can have everything to make money from gambling but you can look at the condition of the market right now, it's so difficult to make a trade which is why you see a lot of traders complain about the market with "there is no good trades to take" and that'd because there is none in the market. Before you see a coin with 10% increase on any time frame right now, there must be something incredible going on with such coin else you will see nothing on the market.
The only projects I expected to see huge spike are new projects entering the market. If I see any altcoin that spike in price, we can categorically assume that it is a pump and will soon dump and that has been the way many devs are using to attract investors to their token to buy, hold and trade them because they will start experiencing trap liquidty.

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December 21, 2025, 05:04:21 PM
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The only projects I expected to see huge spike are new projects entering the market. If I see any altcoin that spike in price, we can categorically assume that it is a pump and will soon dump and that has been the way many devs are using to attract investors to their token to buy, hold and trade them because they will start experiencing trap liquidty.
Most of the new projects will pump a little bit but eventually going to be dumped so heavily.
And so, like you said they become typical pump and dump and the devs are the only ones making so much money with it.
The new tokens must be avoided and even if they spike so hugely, I wouldn't care about that when my money is at risk trying to make money too.

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December 23, 2025, 01:57:12 PM
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The only projects I expected to see huge spike are new projects entering the market. If I see any altcoin that spike in price, we can categorically assume that it is a pump and will soon dump and that has been the way many devs are using to attract investors to their token to buy, hold and trade them because they will start experiencing trap liquidty.
Altcoins have those pumps and they are indicative of points where you should not enter. The dump will happen soon and initial investors will cash out on your money while you are left hanging. It is one the basic methods of losing from a pump and dump and new investors will always lose money from them.

The owners will always make sure to make money from these pumps, so you have to be careful before you invest money in them. Better to stick to bitcoin and dont go into altcoins at all.

 
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December 24, 2025, 02:39:14 PM
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I agree discipline is the real edge,  everyone has access to the same charts and indicators now, what separates traders is how they behave under pressure, most accounts die from overtrading and revenge trades not from bad entries, a simple plan followed consistently beats a genius plan followed randomly.
I believe discipline and strategy are an inseparable combination or foundation in trading. Discipline ensures we remain calm and consistent in our trading activities, especially during volatile markets. Without discipline, even the best strategies can fail due to emotions, and without strategy, discipline can be futile. This is the mistake many traders make: they force excessive entry or overtrade they fail to recognize their mistakes and correct them. This isn't just a technical issue, but also an overly aggressive mindset focused on chasing the market or recovering from quick losses, which often leads to even greater losses.

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December 24, 2025, 02:57:48 PM
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Most of the new projects will pump a little bit but eventually going to be dumped so heavily.
And so, like you said they become typical pump and dump and the devs are the only ones making so much money with it.
The new tokens must be avoided and even if they spike so hugely, I wouldn't care about that when my money is at risk trying to make money too.
I have seen many new projects that were launched following this pattern and and that shows that we are in the dip season where many people are looking to take advantage of the opportunity to buy and sell immediately after making some profits on altcoins.
The market is very risky right now and investing in new altcoins that are being launched can bring loses to investors.

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December 24, 2025, 09:48:53 PM
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tbh the dev is always the biggest whale and people forget that when they see a chart going vertical, they think they are early but they are actually just the exit liquidity, i agree with avoiding new launches because the risk to reward ratio is just garbage compared to established alts or btc, have you ever actually made a profit on one of these day one launches or is it always a race to the bottom haha
I won't say always but sometimes I was able to make profits by investing in early launches. It makes me wonder why you think investing in new launches is waste of time and money? I hope you might have had some bad experiences but let me tell you, if you can find a potential project with a real-world use case than you can surely make profits by investing in the early stage. With these kinds of investments, you don't even have to hold the position for a longer duration. Just within a couple of days, you will see profits flowing only if the project you choose had that potential.

I am not promoting any new launches here and also accept the fact that there are a number of shady projects which still manage to get listed on well-known exchanges but end up scamming all the investors as either the team starts offloading their shares of the token get rug pulled.

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December 25, 2025, 04:55:37 AM
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I don't think we should be separating discipline and strategy. No matter how disciplined you are, if you don't have a good strategy, your discipline is a waste. The same can be said for strategy. No matter how good your strategy is, if you're not disciplined enough to follow it and control your emotions and make logical and cool-headed decisions, your strategy is a waste. They go hand in hand. At all times, you need both.
I don't think one is more important than the other.
And I believe this to be true in life, generally, not just trading. In sports, career, education, or anything at all you can think of. A good plan/strategy always requires discipline. And if you're disciplined without a plan/strategy, you'll only get so far.

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I don't think we should be separating discipline and strategy. No matter how disciplined you are, if you don't have a good strategy, your discipline is a waste.
Discipline cuts across life, everything we do in life; it's not only in business alone. You captured this in the later part of your comment. If one doesn't have any strategy that means one hasn't acquired any skill at all. How can one venture into something like trading without making strategy a necessity? I think the highlight of the OP is if we've both – which one is more important. For me, discipline trumps. I've had to battle this for a while despite having a strategy I believe is a winner. With lack of discipline, it would be very difficult to stick to one's strategy. What keeps one glued to a working strategy is discipline. As for not having a strategy, the trader is merely gambling.

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You just need to maintain:
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And this is the big difference between gamblers and traders. At the end of the day, the market doesn’t reward the most intelligent trader...It rewards the most disciplined.

That's why people say that trading is very difficult and most people eventually give up after continuous losses. This illustrates how to handle trading and if people do not have the discipline in managing Patience, emotions and risk management then trading will not get them out of trouble and instead will cause other, much bigger problems.
Trading is high risk if you don't have skills because we see coin movements like seeing money just disappear without any method in trading and many people fail in trading because they just follow the hype when involved in it.

You don't need a lot of strategies because it might make us more confused and difficult to understand, but learn one strategy and continue to evaluate it so that the trading we do will slowly get better and don't forget to limit the risks we can bear.

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tbh the dev is always the biggest whale and people forget that when they see a chart going vertical, they think they are early but they are actually just the exit liquidity, i agree with avoiding new launches because the risk to reward ratio is just garbage compared to established alts or btc, have you ever actually made a profit on one of these day one launches or is it always a race to the bottom haha
I won't say always but sometimes I was able to make profits by investing in early launches. It makes me wonder why you think investing in new launches is waste of time and money? I hope you might have had some bad experiences but let me tell you, if you can find a potential project with a real-world use case than you can surely make profits by investing in the early stage. With these kinds of investments, you don't even have to hold the position for a longer duration. Just within a couple of days, you will see profits flowing only if the project you choose had that potential.

I am not promoting any new launches here and also accept the fact that there are a number of shady projects which still manage to get listed on well-known exchanges but end up scamming all the investors as either the team starts offloading their shares of the token get rug pulled.
Early token launches attract attention because they move fast and promise outsized returns. Charts go vertical narratives spread quickly and the feeling of being early is intoxicating. What most people overlook is that these projects are not starting from a neutral position. The development team usually controls a large portion of the supply liquidity timing and early distribution. That imbalance shapes everything that follows and it is why many participants end up as exit liquidity without realizing it.

When price accelerates sharply it often signals planned distribution rather than organic demand. Retail traders interpret speed as opportunity while insiders see it as a window to exit. This disconnect creates a repeating pattern across cycles. People believe they discovered something early but the structure was designed long before they arrived. The chart tells a story that hides the real mechanics underneath.

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You just need to maintain:
.Consistency
.Patience
.Emotional control
.Risk management
. A capacity for not breaking the boundaries you have already set for yourself.


And this is the big difference between gamblers and traders. At the end of the day, the market doesn’t reward the most intelligent trader...It rewards the most disciplined.

That's why people say that trading is very difficult and most people eventually give up after continuous losses. This illustrates how to handle trading and if people do not have the discipline in managing Patience, emotions and risk management then trading will not get them out of trouble and instead will cause other, much bigger problems.
Trading is high risk if you don't have skills because we see coin movements like seeing money just disappear without any method in trading and many people fail in trading because they just follow the hype when involved in it.

You don't need a lot of strategies because it might make us more confused and difficult to understand, but learn one strategy and continue to evaluate it so that the trading we do will slowly get better and don't forget to limit the risks we can bear.
We know that consistency matters a lot when someone want to be successful trader because he have to give all his time on learning And he should be focused on what he is doing and after few years he will be successful and we saw no person who is successful And he gave no time to the field in which he want to be successful. We are watching new comers who are thinking to be rich by trading and they are not following the successful person because successful person always do hard work and they do work for learning. If someone is not patient then he will take wrong steps which will be lethel for that person, so person should work but make a long term plan.

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December 25, 2025, 03:30:25 PM
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I don't think we should be separating discipline and strategy. No matter how disciplined you are, if you don't have a good strategy, your discipline is a waste.
Discipline cuts across life, everything we do in life; it's not only in business alone. You captured this in the later part of your comment. If one doesn't have any strategy that means one hasn't acquired any skill at all. How can one venture into something like trading without making strategy a necessity? I think the highlight of the OP is if we've both – which one is more important. For me, discipline trumps. I've had to battle this for a while despite having a strategy I believe is a winner. With lack of discipline, it would be very difficult to stick to one's strategy. What keeps one glued to a working strategy is discipline. As for not having a strategy, the trader is merely gambling.
Strategy and discipline are inseparable, they depend on ourselves. This means that we can create strategies and if we can't then we can learn them, as well as discipline.

I wonder why we have to separate two things that are actually good for us to do? Whatever is good for us, then we must do it all, no matter how heavy and complicated it is then as long as we can still learn then we must continue to learn. everything requires a process and we must be patient with that process.

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Strategy and discipline are inseparable, they depend on ourselves. This means that we can create strategies and if we can't then we can learn them, as well as discipline...

Discipline and strategy are mutually important, as strategy determines what you need to trade and at what levels to open and close an order, and discipline is a trader's ability to follow his own strategy flawlessly.

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In all honesty, both discipline and strategy are essential. When you integrate a sound strategy with strong discipline, reaching the level of long-term profitable traders becomes a realistic goal. Consistent success in this field depends on that balance.

Naturally, this isn't easy for beginners. There are numerous factors to take into account, the most important being to study the craft thoroughly to protect your initial investment. Sadly, rushing into it without preparation is a common mistake many people make here.

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Strategy and discipline are inseparable, they depend on ourselves. This means that we can create strategies and if we can't then we can learn them, as well as discipline...

Discipline and strategy are mutually important, as strategy determines what you need to trade and at what levels to open and close an order, and discipline is a trader's ability to follow his own strategy flawlessly.
Strategy and discipline in trading are inseparable because they are interconnected and failing to implement either will confuse your trading and potentially lead to continuous losses. Just as theory without practice is ineffective so too is strategy without discipline. Furthermore discipline without strategy can lead to directionless trading thus preventing you from achieving your goals.

Therefore in trading the two must go hand in hand. Applying discipline in trading makes it easier to execute your strategy and achieve consistent profits. Therefore to become a successful trader you must be able to combine the two.

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Strategy and discipline are inseparable, they depend on ourselves. This means that we can create strategies and if we can't then we can learn them, as well as discipline.

I wonder why we have to separate two things that are actually good for us to do? Whatever is good for us, then we must do it all, no matter how heavy and complicated it is then as long as we can still learn then we must continue to learn. everything requires a process and we must be patient with that process.
This is basically a useless and worthless topic when you put it like that. Because you are right, strategy and discipline are both important, and when you think of the question OP asked, it becomes quite obvious that it's just for spamming basically.

Because who in the world would think "strategy doesn't matter when you are trading"? It is obvious that strategy matters, we all know it, a five year old person would know it. And then discipline? Who could say be lazy and not care? Of course discipline is important too. These are very obvious and asking which one is important makes no sense at all.

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December 25, 2025, 10:40:23 PM
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Strategy and discipline in trading are inseparable because they are interconnected and failing to implement either will confuse your trading and potentially lead to continuous losses. Just as theory without practice is ineffective so too is strategy without discipline. Furthermore discipline without strategy can lead to directionless trading thus preventing you from achieving your goals.
If discipline in trading is not part of your strategy, then you need to clarify what discipline you are referring to. Trading strategies can vary greatly from trader to trader, but discipline is likely to be nearly the same for every trader. Therefore, I would like to know what discipline in trading is, whether it's the discipline of buying without selling or the discipline of selling after buying in the market. In my opinion, discipline is inherently part of strategy, making it difficult to separate it, as a complete strategy is when discipline is embedded within it.

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