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After conducting further research, I found several additional accounts that are connected to the list of names I previously reported Here Are My Findings:- PokerDiceMan - Hero Member - Active (BC.GAME Campaign)
- FiliOrangGila - Hero Member - Active (Shock Cammpaign)
- FunshareNesialMLMPenipu - Full Member - Active (Cybet Campaign)
- Quontoloue - Sr. Member - Last Active: 31 October 2025, 09:00:03
- truimpheriues - Hero Member - Last Active: 31 October 2025, 11:08:07
- poulembertus - Sr. Member - Last Active: 31 October 2025, 09:03:01
- ETCethereum - Sr. Member - Last Active: 07 November 2025, 03:38:45
- SimpeleSimpele - Hero Member - Last Active: 14 November 2025, 21:08:26
- cakravothy - Hero Member - Last Active: 22 November 2025, 21:21:55
- CasinoBetGame - Hero Member - Last Active: 22 November 2025, 08:49:55
- xusxuquade - Hero Member - Last Active: 24 November 2025, 00:12:17
- CryptoCoinNews - Sr. Member - Last Active: 24 November 2025, 00:14:53
- Asudale - Full Member - Last Active: 29 November 2025, 22:31:00
- VeiweiLo - Sr. Member - Last Active: 06 December 2025, 05:19:52
- BekantanSejagatTeamPenipu - Sr. Member - Last Active: 08 November 2025, 07:03:25 (RedTrust - Shitposting spammer.)
- TheBobyHunter - Sr. Member - Last Active: 28 October 2025, 09:39:45 (RedTrust - Merit abuser. Received more than 200 Merit)
- ArdiPrabowo - Hero Member - Last Active: 15 November 2025, 03:55:32 (RedTrust - Shitposting spammer.)
- PonzyManCrazyLiar - Hero Member - Last Active: 15 November 2025, 04:20:50 (RedTrust - Shitposting spammer.)
- KillyGon - Hero Member - Banned
Here are the details I found:- Similar Posting Patterns
- Sending to the Same Deposit Wallet
- Previously Joined the Same Bounty
- Merit Sent Exclusively Between These Accounts
- Other Accounts Previously Found to be Connected
Similar Posting Patterns: sentences always start with lowercase letters and consist of incomplete sentence fragments.                 They make consecutive posts within the same thread.
Sending to the Same Deposit WalletMain Wallet = Exchange Indodax Deposit Wallet : 0x3A99c50F5A989ABa3F7F594EDBAE78ea2AcfBF5B source image: ArkhamSimpeleSimpele, 0x783CA8c50751B974D2429925c274181f3ddEf043 PokerDiceMan, 0x338e0816075222634AFb26C9a31960B3cB0dD79B Quontoloue, 0x4D7127772dc8ffb694D33182B944f750ADdA4289 truimpheriues, 0x00b2C283c02C2D9F9b077E63504cC8141F6ef008 xusxuquade, 0xd851bf66Fa3722Bff9581F74e51FE16ee96Bf5D8 KillyGon, 0x60BA51222030B51fD11529E756CBC8bC216290be cakravothy, 0x59bc8B38a740Df57437dcD1B32D95CFDfF924b79 xeqoRameshAxueamExaqana, 0xB33BEcf4eaA41c8695dbb30176920632aB8274da JatiKriting, 0x0ef538B85A3555765a8F348dfbfe39C082E9a544 Sent To Main Wallet: 0x3A99c50F5A989ABa3F7F594EDBAE78ea2AcfBF5BCheck Here => https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0x3a99c50f5a989aba3f7f594edbae78ea2acfbf5b&p=1
Previously Joined the Same Bounty Check Here => Vave Signature
Merit Sent Exclusively Between These Accounts https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=PokerDiceMan&to=PokerBettinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=PokerDiceMan&to=nimethasahttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=FiliOrangGila&from=FunshareNesialMLMPenipuhttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=FunshareNesialMLMPenipu&from=BekantanSejagatTeamPenipuhttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Quontoloue&to=PokerBettinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Quontoloue&to=nimethasahttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=truimpheriues&to=TheBobyHunter 50 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=poulembertus&to=TheBobyHunter 5 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=ETCethereum&to=TheBobyHunter 9 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=ETCethereum&to=Asudale 6 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=SimpeleSimpele&to=TheBobyHunter 42 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=cakravothy&to=TheBobyHunter 50 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=cakravothy&to=Asudalehttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=CasinoBetGame&to=TheBobyHunter 50 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=xusxuquade&to=PokerBettinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=CryptoCoinNews&to=Asudalehttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Asudale&to=TheBobyHunter 5 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Asudale&to=PokerBettinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=VeiweiLo&to=JariKritinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=VeiweiLo&to=PokerBettinghttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=BekantanSejagatTeamPenipu&to=JariKriting 6 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=BekantanSejagatTeamPenipu&to=FunshareNesialMLMPenipu 5 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=TheBobyHunter&to=PokerBetting 4 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=ArdiPrabowo&to=FunshareNesialMLMPenipu 5 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=ArdiPrabowo&to=Asudale 5 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=PonzyManCrazyLiar&to=Asudale 10 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=PonzyManCrazyLiar&to=CryptoCoinNews 8 Merit https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=KillyGon&to=Asudale 5 Merit
Other Accounts Previously Found to be ConnectedHere is the proof:- JatiKriting – Hero Member – accepted in the Epicbet– since November 2025 03, 03:55:17
- PokerBetting – Hero Member – accepted in the Epicbet Bounty – since November 16, 2025, 11:01:35
- xeqoRameshAxueamExaqana – Hero Member – attempted to apply at Epicbet, not accepted since November 17, 2025, 14:02:45
- cengsuwuei – Hero Member – inactive since October 31, 2025, 11:09:39
- nimethasa – Sr Member – inactive since October 31, 2025, 11:01:38
This brings the total to 24 connected accounts.
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Zoomic
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Merry Xmas, Pls! help my journey to a Hero member
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December 08, 2025, 07:22:32 PM |
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I was about asking you how you manage to discover and connect these accounts until I read your note below. This is a tedious job to do. Anyways I admire your efforts. But I have this question to ask. Are you in anyway saying that all those accounts belong to one person? I think it is not possible. It could just be a community of people not less than 5 in number. Here are the details I found:- Similar Posting Patterns
- Sending to the Same Deposit Wallet
- Previously Joined the Same Bounty
- Merit Sent Exclusively Between These Accounts
- Other Accounts Previously Found to be Connected
Similar Posting Patterns: sentences always start with lowercase letters and consist of incomplete sentence fragments.
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Z_MBFM
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December 08, 2025, 07:37:18 PM |
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I was about asking you how you manage to discover and connect these accounts until I read your note below. This is a tedious job to do. Anyways I admire your efforts. But I have this question to ask. Are you in anyway saying that all those accounts belong to one person? I think it is not possible. It could just be a community of people not less than 5 in number.
It is not possible for one person to control so many accounts. I agree with this. But it is possible for a small group to run it and it is possible to run more accounts than that. When a group is created and there is a leader for that group, who will give all the instructions, then the behavior of each account will be almost the same. But just looking at the post or looking at the merit transaction does not prove that the account is connected completely. But this can be proven through blockchain transactions, which AakZaki has tried to prove. Sending to the Same Deposit WalletMain Wallet = Exchange Indodax Deposit Wallet : 0x3A99c50F5A989ABa3F7F594EDBAE78ea2AcfBF5B source image: ArkhamSimpeleSimpele, 0x783CA8c50751B974D2429925c274181f3ddEf043 PokerDiceMan, 0x338e0816075222634AFb26C9a31960B3cB0dD79B Quontoloue, 0x4D7127772dc8ffb694D33182B944f750ADdA4289 truimpheriues, 0x00b2C283c02C2D9F9b077E63504cC8141F6ef008 xusxuquade, 0xd851bf66Fa3722Bff9581F74e51FE16ee96Bf5D8 KillyGon, 0x60BA51222030B51fD11529E756CBC8bC216290be cakravothy, 0x59bc8B38a740Df57437dcD1B32D95CFDfF924b79 xeqoRameshAxueamExaqana, 0xB33BEcf4eaA41c8695dbb30176920632aB8274da JatiKriting, 0x0ef538B85A3555765a8F348dfbfe39C082E9a544 Sent To Main Wallet: 0x3A99c50F5A989ABa3F7F594EDBAE78ea2AcfBF5BCheck Here => https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0x3a99c50f5a989aba3f7f594edbae78ea2acfbf5b&p=1
Good Job op
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AakZaki (OP)
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December 08, 2025, 08:02:09 PM |
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I was about asking you how you manage to discover and connect these accounts until I read your note below. This is a tedious job to do. Anyways I admire your efforts. But I have this question to ask. Are you in anyway saying that all those accounts belong to one person? I think it is not possible. It could just be a community of people not less than 5 in number.
Did you realize that I only made two posts today, including this thread? That's why I made a long analysis and did extensive research to uncover all of this. Again don't you notice a similar writing pattern? How can different people write in exactly the same style? How is it possible that tens of ETH are sent to the same deposit address? Aaah... Now I'm the one asking. Yes, I'm sure it belongs to the same person. In fact I have already given evidence at the OP. If you think all those accounts will be online at the same time it's certainly not possible. Look at numbers 15–19: they already have Red Trust and one is even blocked. That means they are no longer in use, leaving 14 accounts that are still active. Do you still not believe that fourteen accounts are operated by the same person? For reference in my previous thread I already found eighteen accounts connected. Here it is. From SIX accounts it has now increased to EIGHTEEN connected accounts.
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Satofan44
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December 08, 2025, 08:06:48 PM |
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Are you in anyway saying that all those accounts belong to one person? I think it is not possible. It could just be a community of people not less than 5 in number.
Stop repeating stuff like this because it is not true. I wrote something like 40 posts in a single day without even trying. An average campaign requires 20 posts per week, which is 3 posts per day per account. With effort and intent to shitpost is possible to easily run 10-30 accounts. You can do even more but you'd have to really grind it. You have to remember that my 40 posts take a lot more time to write than their shitposts, probably double or triple the time at least. Therefore 100 of their shitty posts per day is very easy.
Very good work OP.
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December 08, 2025, 11:51:04 PM |
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Are you in anyway saying that all those accounts belong to one person? I think it is not possible. It could just be a community of people not less than 5 in number.
Stop repeating stuff like this because it is not true. I wrote something like 40 posts in a single day without even trying. An average campaign requires 20 posts per week, which is 3 posts per day per account. With effort and intent to shitpost is possible to easily run 10-30 accounts. You can do even more but you'd have to really grind it. You have to remember that my 40 posts take a lot more time to write than their shitposts, probably double or triple the time at least. Therefore 100 of their shitty posts per day is very easy.
Very good work OP. You post 40 posts in a single day without even trying? I found this hard to believe. Having 40 posts in a single day is not something easy at all, especially if you are a good poster. But if the person is only spamming, it is very possible that he may be easy for him. I consider this to be more than greediness, it is something else that is worse than greed. I know I can be very wrong, but the conclusion is still that the user is more than greedy. All his accounts were created in 2016, before merit system was introduced, the reason the accounts were easy for him to create and rank up. Who even knows if he has more accounts.
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Satofan44
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December 09, 2025, 12:14:14 AM Last edit: December 09, 2025, 03:34:48 PM by Satofan44 Merited by memehunter (1) |
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You post 40 posts in a single day without even trying? I found this hard to believe. Having 40 posts in a single day is not something easy at all, especially if you are a good poster. But if the person is only spamming, it is very possible that he may be easy for him.
Maybe I am misremembering the exact number and the exact number whether 30 or 40 does not matter to demonstrate the point. On average all those posts were of much higher quality than the shitposters that are being caught here and I wasn't trying, which means that there was no financial incentive to write that many posts as I went way over any campaign requirements. This just demonstrates that is it quite possible do this. All that was needed in my case were a few interesting topics where respondents were active that day and a few fiery discussions. Anyway this criteria is not relevant for someone who's posting generic shitposts, therefore for them it is easier. I can't stoop down to that level otherwise I would test the hypothesis. I am sure I could do at least 100 or 200 low quality posts that they are making in a day. Just do the math. An average campaign requires 20 posts per week, which is 3 posts per day per account.
My 30 posts in a day probably require as much time as double or triple the time requirement of the posts from these shitposters so we are talking about 60 to 90 posts. At 3 posts per day per account that is 20 to 30 accounts that can be run by a single person. Is there a single farmer that is running that many accounts? Unlikely but nevertheless it remains possible, therefore claims to the contrary should stop. I consider this to be more than greediness, it is something else that is worse than greed.
I know I can be very wrong, but the conclusion is still that the user is more than greedy. All his accounts were created in 2016, before merit system was introduced, the reason the accounts were easy for him to create and rank up. Who even knows if he has more accounts.
Nothing different from the organized airdrop and bounty farming centers, organized scam centers and so forth. They specialize in abusing whatever they can get their hands on.
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OP, I'm sure this isn't the entire farm. Look at the frequency of how these accounts were opened; there are some gaps, considering they were looking at every account, even the ones that were blocked. So, it's safe to assume whoever opened these accounts doesn't remember which one was blocked. So, I think you still have a lot of work to do to catch these cheaters. PokerBetting 10/19/2025 8:53:17 AM woke up JariKriting 10/19/2025 8:55:24 AM woke up PokerDiceMan 10/20/2025 1:02:55 AM woke up FiliOrangGila 10/26/2025 8:28:20 PM woke up TheBobyHunter 10/28/2025 9:37:57 AM woke up ArdiPrabowo 10/28/2025 9:40:56 AM woke up PonzyManCrazyLiar 10/28/2025 12:15:53 PM woke up KillyGon 10/29/2025 10:20:10 PM woke up (Archived) Samahabosa 10/31/2025 7:15:11 AM woke up EduardoSe 10/31/2025 7:20:55 AM woke up DenyAryanto 10/31/2025 7:27:03 AM woke upAsudale 10/31/2025 8:57:28 AM woke up Quontoloue 10/31/2025 9:00:02 AM woke up poulembertus 10/31/2025 9:03:01 AM woke up CryptoCoinNews 10/31/2025 9:04:26 AM woke up Kuingsudaqila 10/29/2025 10:21:34 PM woke upFunshareNesialMLMPenipu 10/31/2025 10:41:33 AM woke up BekantanSejagatTeamPenipu 10/31/2025 10:43:54 AM woke up VeiweiLo 10/31/2025 10:47:38 AM woke up CllickerQluicker 10/31/2025 10:49:10 AM woke upnimethasa 10/31/2025 11:01:38 AM woke up ETCethereum 10/31/2025 11:04:18 AM woke up truimpheriues 10/31/2025 11:05:34 AM woke up cengsuwuei 10/31/2025 11:09:38 AM woke up xeqoRameshAxueamExaqana 10/31/2025 12:56:39 AM woke up xusxuquade 11/1/2025 10:20:51 PM woke up CasinoBetGame 11/1/2025 10:24:39 PM woke up SimpeleSimpele 11/4/2025 4:30:05 AM woke up cakravothy 11/22/2025 9:15:20 PM woke up
I think these accounts are also from there.Samahabosa 10/31/2025 7:15:11 AM woke up EduardoSe 10/31/2025 7:20:55 AM woke up DenyAryanto 10/31/2025 7:27:03 AM woke up CllickerQluicker 10/31/2025 10:49:10 AM woke up Kuingsudaqila 10/29/2025 10:21:34 PM woke up https://bpip.org/Profile?p=CllickerQluickerhttps://bpip.org/Profile?p=EduardoSehttps://bpip.org/Profile?p=Samahabosahttps://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Kuingsudaqila&from=DenyAryanto
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December 09, 2025, 10:09:39 AM |
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sorry @AakZaki forgive me in the title you wrote 24 and in the OP post there are 19, perhaps it would be better if in your analysis you then go and update the first post of the thread otherwise it would be a bit confusing for me to go and look for the remaining 5 in the thread
thanks for the work done
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OP, I'm sure this isn't the entire farm. Look at the frequency of how these accounts were opened; there are some gaps, considering they were looking at every account, even the ones that were blocked. So, it's safe to assume whoever opened these accounts doesn't remember which one was blocked. So, I think you still have a lot of work to do to catch these cheaters. (...)
Yes, I will continue to strengthen that effort and I will continue to search because it seems like there is still a lot I have not found. Maybe by now I've become a nightmare in my own local board and I'm honestly already disappointed that those scammers only care to fill their own stomachs. I will not take a step back from this Board.
sorry @AakZaki forgive me in the title you wrote 24 and in the OP post there are 19, perhaps it would be better if in your analysis you then go and update the first post of the thread otherwise it would be a bit confusing for me to go and look for the remaining 5 in the thread
thanks for the work done
It seems I've uploaded too many screenshots, making the OP thread look very long and stretched downward. I've already added the total count at the bottom did you see it, mate?
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It seems I've uploaded too many screenshots, making the OP thread look very long and stretched downward. I've already added the total count at the bottom did you see it, mate?
ah ok I saw it thanks a lot both for making the list, for taking the screenshots and so on In the past, when I had more time, I also hunted for cheaters and scammers, but not at such a professional level. very good, the community is grateful for your work!
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December 09, 2025, 08:42:25 PM |
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Congrats but why aren’t they getting negative trust ratings? I checked some of the profiles and I see that they are still as good as new. Some of them haven’t even received a neutral tag from dt.
Why?
If DT isn’t going to tag alt account farms that cheated campaigns, why do we even have default trust members?
In the other topic satodude is getting negatives because he was mean to people and misusing the trust system even though he is not dt, and here we are have a full farm of chickens cows donkeys and shiet and they are getting away with it.
I can’t wrap my head around this.
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December 09, 2025, 08:51:16 PM |
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Excellent work OP. There are probably more accounts involved I agree. Stuff like this is not clear to me, because I have seen this in other threads. Shouldn't the forum staff quickly ban all the other accounts after a connection has strongly been confirmed? Why the delay? Are they even getting banned at all anymore? It seems so obvious that there needs to be no second thought about this. Does someone have information on why this is not happening? In the other topic satodude is getting negatives because he was mean to people and misusing the trust system even though he is not dt, and here we are have a full farm of chickens cows donkeys and shiet and they are getting away with it.
I can’t wrap my head around this.
Now you are figuring out what I am trying to do with my recklessness.  We need more of you in this section. Perhaps it ain't so much suicide as it is martyrdom or it could be a little bit of both.
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December 10, 2025, 06:20:55 PM |
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Congrats but why aren’t they getting negative trust ratings? I checked some of the profiles and I see that they are still as good as new. Some of them haven’t even received a neutral tag from dt.
Why?
If DT isn’t going to tag alt account farms that cheated campaigns, why do we even have default trust members?
In the other topic satodude is getting negatives because he was mean to people and misusing the trust system even though he is not dt, and here we are have a full farm of chickens cows donkeys and shiet and they are getting away with it.
I can’t wrap my head around this.
Op has already red tagged all the profiles. You are a DT2 member yourself so why aren't you tagging them? These farm accounts definitely deserve to be red tagged as all the allegations against them are clearly proven. I'm also tagging it, but it may not shows as red coz i am not an DT
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December 10, 2025, 07:09:42 PM |
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Op has already red tagged all the profiles. You are a DT2 member yourself so why aren't you tagging them? These farm accounts definitely deserve to be red tagged as all the allegations against them are clearly proven. I'm also tagging it, but it may not shows as red coz i am not an DT
I've argued this in another thread, some users are mistaken that untrusted red tags don't matter because they are not shown by default. They are using this to justify their laziness and lack of proactive measures. Assuming that the tag is valid, in absence of a tag by a DT members it matters because it gives a diligent observer the ability to review it. If non-DT members do not tag these users, and they don't have a tag by any other DT members, then outside observers will not know that they are abusers. This is why I leave tags on many of these regardless of who tagged them. It is a small contribution that takes very little time if the connections have been verified by others.
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December 10, 2025, 07:17:48 PM |
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OP this is amazing work busting this cheater farm! They are obviously all connected and coming from the same country, but I am sure there are more connected accounts, not just 24. Since there is at least one of them than was previously banned (KillyGon), I think this is a clear case of ban evasion for all accounts you listed.
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December 10, 2025, 07:40:15 PM |
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Op has already red tagged all the profiles. You are a DT2 member yourself so why aren't you tagging them? These farm accounts definitely deserve to be red tagged as all the allegations against them are clearly proven. I'm also tagging it, but it may not shows as red coz i am not an DT
I've argued this in another thread, some users are mistaken that untrusted red tags don't matter because they are not shown by default. They are using this to justify their laziness and lack of proactive measures. Assuming that the tag is valid, in absence of a tag by a DT members it matters because it gives a diligent observer the ability to review it. If non-DT members do not tag these users, and they don't have a tag by any other DT members, then outside observers will not know that they are abusers. This is why I leave tags on many of these regardless of who tagged them. It is a small contribution that takes very little time if the connections have been verified by others. I agree with this. Look at those users you tagged with negative trust ratings, it is definitely happening right now. They are all in chaos because of the negative trust ratings you gave them. You even received positive trust rating from someone because of what you are doing. Just a bit of advice for you; Anything excessive becomes bad, and that is what happened to your account now. You have 2 negative trust rating. You are being tagged for trust rating abuse/misused even if they those ratings you tag do not matter as they said.
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December 10, 2025, 08:13:34 PM |
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Congrats but why aren’t they getting negative trust ratings? I checked some of the profiles and I see that they are still as good as new. Some of them haven’t even received a neutral tag from dt.
Why?
If DT isn’t going to tag alt account farms that cheated campaigns, why do we even have default trust members?
In the other topic satodude is getting negatives because he was mean to people and misusing the trust system even though he is not dt, and here we are have a full farm of chickens cows donkeys and shiet and they are getting away with it.
I can’t wrap my head around this.
First of all, you wrote this post a day after OP posted the evidence, so chill out a bit and give us some time to digest the evidence. Second of all, you are on DT2 so you could take the lead and do yourself what you are demanding of others. There's no reason to not do it except laziness.
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