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December 12, 2025, 01:05:28 AM
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I said that the golden chord sounds great, and I lied. It actually sounds horrendous.

The Fibonacci sequence is the sequence 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,... where each successive entry is the sum of the previous two entries (for example, 34=21+13). The number Phi is defined as the positive solution to the equation x^2=x+1. In particular, Phi=(1+sqrt(5))/2. If we take the limit of two successive Fibonacci numbers, it will approach the number Phi.

To hear what the golden chord sounds like, go to https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ and put in the three successive Fibonacci numbers 233 Hz,377 Hz,610 Hz, and make it output sawtooth waves for extra jaggedness. What you will hear sounds horrendous for mathematical reasons. The ratio of frequencies is approximately the golden ratio. In music, like our intervals to be simple rational ratios like 3/2,4/3,2/1. The tritone is the interval sqrt(2)/1 which sounds dissonant because there is the pesky square root in there that makes it maximally irrational. And the golden ratio just sounds that much worse especially when we combine three notes to make a chord. This means that the golden chord is useful for creating alarm clocks because you have to get up early for a job that you know is complete and utter bullshit.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)

Disclaimer: The golden chord has absolutely nothing to do with any song named 'Golden'. We're goin' up, up, up, it's our moment.
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December 17, 2025, 08:10:25 AM
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I’ve heard “golden chord” used in music theory — that feeling when a chord just hits perfectly. Feels like finding a perfect strategy in trading or spotting a great altcoin. Totally get the “delicious” part.

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December 18, 2025, 10:29:55 AM
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I’ve heard “golden chord” used in music theory — that feeling when a chord just hits perfectly. Feels like finding a perfect strategy in trading or spotting a great altcoin. Totally get the “delicious” part.
The golden chord that I mentioned is more like spotting a scam coin. Not everything with the label 'golden' is actually good. The 2025 song Golden is really good while the 2020 Harry Styles song Golden is less good. And the golden chord that I mentioned should be used for the terrain alarm given by the ground proximity warning system on airplanes as well as the nuclear bomb sirens.

But in music, we tend to like ratios (of pitches and to a slightly lesser extent of rhythms) that have simple rational ratios like 2/1 (octave),3/2 (perfect fifth),4/3 (fourth), etc. But in mathematics, irrational algebraic numbers such as the golden ratio are very difficult to approximate using simple rational numbers (this is a consequence of Roth's theorem). And the golden ratio is mathematically the worst interval for music. To see why this is the case, we need to use the continued fraction representation of positive real numbers. To see how continued fractions work, let's use an example, namely 21/13. The number 21/13 is greater than or equal to 1, so we subtract 1 and get 21/13-1=8/13. Now this number is less than 1. We now make it greater than 1 by taking is reciprocal to get 13/8. We continue the process to get 13/8-1=5/8 and then 8/5-1=3/5 and then 5/3-1=2/3 and then 3/2-1=1/2 and then 2/1-2=0. And once we get an integer, we stop the continued fraction process. The continued fraction representation of 21/13 is the collection of all numbers we subtract while performing the continued fraction process (which in that case would be a whole bunch of 1's). Continued fractions measure how complicated your fractions are and how easily your irrational numbers are approximable by rational numbers. For irrational numbers, the continued fraction representation never ends. If the continued fraction expansion of x has large natural numbers early on, then x can be approximated by simple rational numbers well. But if the continued fraction expansion of x has small numbers early on, then x cannot be approximated by simple rational numbers. The continued fraction expansion of the golden ratio is just 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,... which is as bad as you can get. This means that the golden interval and golden chord in music sound about as bad as it can get. This mathematical theory is supported by experiments (well, kind of) since I used the tone generator to play the golden chord and it sounds bad. Of course, this is not a controlled experiment. My bias against the golden chord based on my mathematical knowledge could contribute to my opinion of it. Other people may automatically assume that since it is called the golden ratio, it should sound good, so we really need a controlled experiment (this has probably already been done but I am too lazy to look for it) to find it.

By the way, the golden interval is an interval of 8.33 semitones, so this interval is microtonal. I really want to hear this chord in a song together with a time signature of (1+sqrt(5))/2 (with something going at 233 BPM and another thing going at 144 BPM) because not only does the golden ratio make really bad chords, but it also makes a really bad time signature.

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-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)
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December 19, 2025, 09:04:06 AM
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Ngl, this sounds a bit vague. Is this a pun, a new coin, or just poetic flair? Either way, don’t get too hyped until there’s more info. “Delicious” doesn’t equal profitable.

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December 19, 2025, 09:10:20 AM
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Ngl, “sounds delicious” is a bit hypey. Could be a cool concept or just marketing fluff. Wait for roadmap, code, and trust feedback before getting excited.

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I said that the golden chord sounds great, and I lied. It actually sounds horrendous.

The Fibonacci sequence is the sequence 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,... where each successive entry is the sum of the previous two entries (for example, 34=21+13). The number Phi is defined as the positive solution to the equation x^2=x+1. In particular, Phi=(1+sqrt(5))/2. If we take the limit of two successive Fibonacci numbers, it will approach the number Phi.

To hear what the golden chord sounds like, go to https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ and put in the three successive Fibonacci numbers 233 Hz,377 Hz,610 Hz, and make it output sawtooth waves for extra jaggedness. What you will hear sounds horrendous for mathematical reasons. The ratio of frequencies is approximately the golden ratio. In music, like our intervals to be simple rational ratios like 3/2,4/3,2/1. The tritone is the interval sqrt(2)/1 which sounds dissonant because there is the pesky square root in there that makes it maximally irrational. And the golden ratio just sounds that much worse especially when we combine three notes to make a chord. This means that the golden chord is useful for creating alarm clocks because you have to get up early for a job that you know is complete and utter bullshit.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)

Disclaimer: The golden chord has absolutely nothing to do with any song named 'Golden'. We're goin' up, up, up, it's our moment.


 A good and excellent mathematician with a PHD, however, a bad teacher, according to his students, would not waste his time here on the forum trying to promote a future shitcoin!, I as a good researcher that I believe I am, would never come here to expose my academic works.... but I know it's very easy for anyone to be a fan of someone's work, to copy them, paste them here and in other various social media,, it may be that you were a student of the real Joseph Vanname, and very angry at his teaching method, decided to impersonate him, and at the same time, destroy his image, as if he were stupid and ignorant as you express yourself to be here,  Even going on a topic where a guy talks about his weaknesses and you encourage him to do what he is thinking out of pure belief in natural selection, no matter how much he has tried or had excess in his blows here in the past, !! your ignorance caught my attention..., a PHD doesn't waste time cursing people, especially on the bitcoin forum, the worst since 2015...2017, and onwards... I'm organizing my research here you idiot, and soon, having more time, I'll put them here in the forum, in addition, in advance thank you for your red flag.... my profile will look beautiful for Christmas!!! the natural selection of the internet will extinguish you from the Net for Plagiarism!!!



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I want to say that there is still time for you to send your documents to the adm of the forum and prove that you are who you say you are, because I will put the email of the real one, and if someone wants to check the truth, they can even meet with the real one in person, you have a time, a chance to prove the opposite, your Beast!!

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Ngl, this sounds a bit vague. Is this a pun, a new coin, or just poetic flair? Either way, don’t get too hyped until there’s more info. “Delicious” doesn’t equal profitable.

probably an extra-profile!!
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December 19, 2025, 08:28:41 PM
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I said that the golden chord sounds great, and I lied. It actually sounds horrendous.

The Fibonacci sequence is the sequence 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,... where each successive entry is the sum of the previous two entries (for example, 34=21+13). The number Phi is defined as the positive solution to the equation x^2=x+1. In particular, Phi=(1+sqrt(5))/2. If we take the limit of two successive Fibonacci numbers, it will approach the number Phi.

To hear what the golden chord sounds like, go to https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ and put in the three successive Fibonacci numbers 233 Hz,377 Hz,610 Hz, and make it output sawtooth waves for extra jaggedness. What you will hear sounds horrendous for mathematical reasons. The ratio of frequencies is approximately the golden ratio. In music, like our intervals to be simple rational ratios like 3/2,4/3,2/1. The tritone is the interval sqrt(2)/1 which sounds dissonant because there is the pesky square root in there that makes it maximally irrational. And the golden ratio just sounds that much worse especially when we combine three notes to make a chord. This means that the golden chord is useful for creating alarm clocks because you have to get up early for a job that you know is complete and utter bullshit.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)

Disclaimer: The golden chord has absolutely nothing to do with any song named 'Golden'. We're goin' up, up, up, it's our moment.


 A good and excellent mathematician with a PHD, however, a bad teacher, according to his students, would not waste his time here on the forum trying to promote a future shitcoin!, I as a good researcher that I believe I am, would never come here to expose my academic works.... but I know it's very easy for anyone to be a fan of someone's work, to copy them, paste them here and in other various social media,, it may be that you were a student of the real Joseph Vanname, and very angry at his teaching method, decided to impersonate him, and at the same time, destroy his image, as if he were stupid and ignorant as you express yourself to be here,  Even going on a topic where a guy talks about his weaknesses and you encourage him to do what he is thinking out of pure belief in natural selection, no matter how much he has tried or had excess in his blows here in the past, !! your ignorance caught my attention..., a PHD doesn't waste time cursing people, especially on the bitcoin forum, the worst since 2015...2017, and onwards... I'm organizing my research here you idiot, and soon, having more time, I'll put them here in the forum, in addition, in advance thank you for your red flag.... my profile will look beautiful for Christmas!!! the natural selection of the internet will extinguish you from the Net for Plagiarism!!!



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I want to say that there is still time for you to send your documents to the adm of the forum and prove that you are who you say you are, because I will put the email of the real one, and if someone wants to check the truth, they can even meet with the real one in person, you have a time, a chance to prove the opposite, your Beast!!

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Ngl, this sounds a bit vague. Is this a pun, a new coin, or just poetic flair? Either way, don’t get too hyped until there’s more info. “Delicious” doesn’t equal profitable.

probably an extra-profile!!
You are incredibly stupid. Fuck you. And I will not obey your commands because you are truly a fucked up piece of shit.

Ngl, “sounds delicious” is a bit hypey. Could be a cool concept or just marketing fluff. Wait for roadmap, code, and trust feedback before getting excited.
Um. The golden chord may be useful for designing nuclear bomb alarms or something like that, but it is otherwise useless. The golden chord is not a project I am working on because there is not much to it. I suppose I could intentionally write a really bad song with it, but there is not a big market for songs that are this bad. And I said that the golden chord sounds delicious, but if you actually read what I wrote, you would know that I completely lied about the golden chord sounding good to anyone.

Ngl, this sounds a bit vague. Is this a pun, a new coin, or just poetic flair? Either way, don’t get too hyped until there’s more info. “Delicious” doesn’t equal profitable.
A chord is a collection of 3 musical notes played at the same time to make harmony. And I never claimed that I intended to make profit over the golden chord. And I also said that I lied about the golden chord being delicious in any way because it is designed mathematically to sound bad.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
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