Is sig campaign with 3 separate threads and 3 different CM allowed?

[xLays]

I noticed a signature campaign that appears to be running under three separate campaign threads, each handled by 3 different campaign manager. I won’t mention the campaign name to avoid giving it unnecessary exposure. Also I'm sure some of you already know what campaign I'm referring..

This post is nothing against any campaign manager or the campaign itself. My goal is simply to ask whether this setup is allowed and if it aligns with bitcointalk’s effort to reduce spam and keep the forum clean.

I want to make this thread self moderated but it looks like I can't as this being posted in meta board. I want to delete the reply if someone mentioned the site.

[Mia Chloe]

I noticed a signature campaign that appears to be running under three separate campaign threads, each handled by 3 different campaign manager. I won’t mention the campaign name to avoid giving it unnecessary exposure. Also I'm sure some of you already know what campaign I'm referring..

Everyone knows the campaign they are all in the service board so no need to censor the name. Well there's no forum rule that says a service cannot launch with more than one manager at a time infact this isn't really the first so on that part they are not breaking any rules. Anyways my best guess so far is that they are trying to assess which management service will give them highest visibility.

I may be wrong but I think it's the only explanation that comes straight up to mind.

[Obim34]

According to LM, their is high possibility that the campaign under his management will not exceed 1 week, since he doesn't hold funds to cover for further weeks.

12. Please note that this campaign may end after a week. I'm not holding any funds for them.

It's really no big deal, as long all managers are getting perfect communication with the team, campaign funds are released, managers receiving own marketing rewards as agreed, no rule seem to be broken.

[TryNinja]

Why wouldn't this be allowed?

Maybe the casino wants to compare the "results" from each of the managers, so they know which one to move forward with. Maybe they want to see which manager handlers spam the best, which would be a positive outcome for the forum, I don't know.

But when I saw the new campaign I didn't think anything wrong about it. Just let it be.

[LoyceV]

I'd say it's okay, as long as they're individual campaigns. If those 3 campaign managers share one spreadsheet in which all participants are joined, I'd call it spam to have 3 campaign threads.

For a business advertising their service here, it could even make sense to track clicks from different campaign managers to see which one performs best.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

3 campaigns? LMAO.

I just realised that you are talking about the campaign I am in. I joined Little Mouse's campaign because I understood that God of Thunder's campaign was ending due to his reputation issues. In fact, he hasn't updated the campaign thread, but he has paid us as promised. But now, seeing this thread, I see that AB de Royse777 has started another campaign for the same casino with different conditions, so I don't know what's going on here. I think it's the strangest thing I've seen in campaigns in a long time.

[GeorgeJohn]

It's the campaign I'm promoting, it's visible in the service board "the campaign you're referring to" What I noticed is that the campaign is looking for best manager that will give them the traffic they need

But it's not bad to give 3 different managers a campaign to manage, if the campaign have the capital to sponsor the 3 established campaigns from different management, they will be no problem because they're not working with same spreadsheet

But what I noticed is the campaign is under Hypothesis to the 3 managers.

[Z_MBFM]

I noticed a signature campaign that appears to be running under three separate campaign threads, each handled by 3 different campaign manager. I won’t mention the campaign name to avoid giving it unnecessary exposure. Also I'm sure some of you already know what campaign I'm referring..

This post is nothing against any campaign manager or the campaign itself. My goal is simply to ask whether this setup is allowed and if it aligns with bitcointalk’s effort to reduce spam and keep the forum clean.

I want to make this thread self moderated but it looks like I can't as this being posted in meta board. I want to delete the reply if someone mentioned the site.

This can't be a problem because three managers are managing the camp separately. And three are working with different participants. And if all three managers make the payment correctly, then this is not a problem. And I haven't seen any specific rules where these things are clarified that a company's promotion campaign cannot be create by more than one manager at the same time. Maybe this is a different marketing strategy that can help gain the trust of users on this forum very quickly.

[Ojima-ojo]

I want to make this thread self moderated but it looks like I can't as this being posted in meta board. I want to delete the reply if someone mentioned the site.

Let me start by saying that there is nothing wrong in mentioning the campaign in question, and if you feel you mentioning the name of the company in the said campaign is you giving them unpaid and or unnecessarily exposure, you should not stop other users from mentioning the campaign because even if some of us don't know the campaign, some how we still will find out, just as obim34 quoted little mouse's comment from the campaign page directly and through that quote, I am able to know the campaign you are referring to.


Well, just as other users have said, I also think there is no problem with 3 different managers managing 3 campaign threads of the same company, there is no rule forbidding this and as long as each of the managers can afford to pay their respective participants, then there should be no issue.
If I am not mistaken, I think we had different managers manage 1xbit campaign when they were still on this forum.

[Churchillvv]

I think this is actually the second time I am noticing a campaign being handled by different managers, firstly when I saw one it was due to the fact that the previous manager or the current manager probably wasn’t doing so well from the perspective of the campaign itself then they had to opt for a bigger manager but then I later realized that the campaign is being ran by both and is running without obstruction from each other. However it’s a serious concern you brought on but then is it affect the forum negatively? I doubt just the same thing other campaigns are doing to the forum we can’t say there is an increase in spam or something because it’s basically something.

[Mrbluntzy]

The same company signature campaign launch by 3 different campaign managers on 3 different threads is allowed on the forum, if the community guidelines does not mention it in her rules, that mean it is allowed on the forum. IMO, It would be a spam if the same campaign manager had launched the campaign in 3 different threads. 2 among the 3 different campaigns threads could be a temporary campaign that might be observed by the company team for some quality that they want.

[PX-Z]

This is not the first time, some casinos have multiple campaigns for different events and stuff at the same time. As long it doesn't break forum rules for whatever reason. Spams are handled by the manager, they are the sole responsible of accepting participants for that, reporting posts or participants instead might help.

[Zoomic]

Why wouldn't this be allowed?

Maybe the casino wants to compare the "results" from each of the managers, so they know which one to move forward with. Maybe they want to see which manager handlers spam the best, which would be a positive outcome for the forum, I don't know.

But when I saw the new campaign I didn't think anything wrong about it. Just let it be.

Do managers actually produce different results in the same forum? I do not think that any manager can do better than the other given equal budget in the forum.
I mean, they could hire the same amount of posters who are going to deliver almost same number of posts and give same exposure to the project.
There will only be a difference if one manager intentionally hires low quality poster and I don't think that such managers exists here.
IMO, if 3 managers are handling campaign for the same project, it could be that the project has enough budget and wants more hands on the desk or they are planning transition from one manager to another.

[TryNinja]

Do managers actually produce different results in the same forum? I do not think that any manager can do better than the other given equal budget in the forum.
I mean, they could hire the same amount of posters who are going to deliver almost same number of posts and give same exposure to the project.
There will only be a difference if one manager intentionally hires low quality poster and I don't think that such managers exists here.
IMO, if 3 managers are handling campaign for the same project, it could be that the project has enough budget and wants more hands on the desk or they are planning transition from one manager to another.

Are you saying three different people are going to select the same users, have the same rules, accept and deny the same posts?

Obviously 3 managers will do things in 3 different ways.

There are some campaigns with more spam than others, possibly because of the manager accepting bad users.

[Zoomic]

Are you saying three different people are going to select the same users, have the same rules, accept and deny the same posts?

No, they will act differently but the rules are similar, the post quota and boards of posting are similar. So the 3 managers are likely to produce similar results.

There are some campaigns with more spam than others, possibly because of the manager accepting bad users.

If things are right, no manager will hire bad users. It is either the budget is low or there is scarcity of good posters.

[logfiles]

This has ever happened before, though it was usually just two different campaigns advertising the same brand and I don't see any issue with it. Maybe the service is trying to explore and see which CM performs better.
Maybe you are mistaking this with creating Announcement threads. That is usually what is not allowed

[Little Mouse]

3 campaigns? LMAO.

I just realised that you are talking about the campaign I am in. I joined Little Mouse's campaign because I understood that God of Thunder's campaign was ending due to his reputation issues. In fact, he hasn't updated the campaign thread, but he has paid us as promised. But now, seeing this thread, I see that AB de Royse777 has started another campaign for the same casino with different conditions, so I don't know what's going on here. I think it's the strangest thing I've seen in campaigns in a long time.

When I was contacted by their rep (well, they contacted me earlier too before they launched their first campaign), I asked about their current campaign and I was told that this campaign has nothing to do with that campaign. They want to experiment something. I mentioned in the campaign thread that the campaign may get ended after first week.

[God Of Thunder]

3 campaigns? LMAO.

I just realised that you are talking about the campaign I am in. I joined Little Mouse's campaign because I understood that God of Thunder's campaign was ending due to his reputation issues. In fact, he hasn't updated the campaign thread, but he has paid us as promised. But now, seeing this thread, I see that AB de Royse777 has started another campaign for the same casino with different conditions, so I don't know what's going on here. I think it's the strangest thing I've seen in campaigns in a long time.

Apologies for the delayed response.
I was too busy and kinda sick yesterday, but I proceeded with the payment. I will update the thread asap. I have a budget for another week, maybe two. I will see if the Bitz team wants to continue and refill the escrow wallet. I already asked about the other campaigns, and they said that those campaigns have nothing to do with mine. They want to check the campaign managers and the results they get from the campaigns. So it is kind of experiment.

[Richbased]

Maybe bitz.io is trying to find out which manager will best handle their signature campaign which could be the reason why they have 3 managers. After some time they can withdraw about a couple of managers and leave only one to continue. However, I don't think this is a good marketing tactics. They should have only allowed one manager to handle the campaign then if he did not meet up with their expectations they can hire another manager instead of flooding the service boards with same campaign thread.

[YOSHIE]

Is sig campaign with 3 separate threads and 3 different CM allowed?

May or not, if that is what is being asked perhaps I should refer to the rules here, as mentioned.

Do not take on more users than you can handle. It is almost impossible for one campaign manager to monitor hundreds of users making thousands of posts a day. Instead of paying as many users as possible, limit it to a manageable amount as having a handful of quality posters is better than hundreds of spammers who will only give your company a bad name/image on the forum.

The rules clearly state that it is impossible for one manager to control dozens of participants in one sig campaign.
It can be concluded that as long as the company has enough funds/Bitcoin to pay the sig participants, I don't think it's a problem, maybe they want to have 90 participants to advertise their products, of course they have to divide at least three campaigns which are managed by different managers, meaning 1 campaign consists of 30 participants, this way it will be easy for managers to control paid participants.

I think as long as they pay in Bitcoin and have three campaigns with different managers it's fine, guidelines on the rules above. while they advertise the main product.