it's now ten times harder

[buwaytress]

If you can only afford to save $30 a month, and you can only afford to save $360 a year, then isn't $3600 a small fortune for you? It's all relative, isn't it? I couldn't save much (relatively) either, but tell me today that whatever I save is worth 10 times more in a couple of cycles and I'm still all in.

It still makes sense. If anything. If $3600 instead of $360 to a person who can only save that much a year means much more than $36,000 to a guy who could save $3600. Wouldn't you say?

[Asiska02]

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

You are not getting it all right but I’ll assume it is because of the inspirational videos you watch from YouTubes. Those are not the best place for you to get to know about bitcoin and what it entails and what you stand to get. Bitcoin wasn’t really introduced to make you rich overnight, it was never a means of investment in the first instance it was introduced, so viewing it as such and still getting profitable should be a bonus to you. The more you invest, the more profitable you’ll get overtime in bitcoin investment using DCA. Also, don’t forget that as long as inflation is increasing, you’ll not see the value of the increment you’ve gotten overtime in your investment.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

The popularity doesn’t really matter, but as long as inflation is increasing, the value of profit you’ll get from your investment in bitcoin will look insignificant even though the whole process is in an uptrend. Bitcoin has been around for a while and one can confidently say that it’ll increase overtime and the more you invest, the more chances you get at making more profit.

[serjent05]

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Is this statement contradicting itself?  You said if Bitcoin gets popular, it will become slower to get rich? If you start DCA-ing today and hold for 10 years, and during those times Bitcoin gets 100x popular, then does not this mean you get more profit, and if you had DCA enough, your chance of becoming rich is higher?

I think the key thing here is when you will start investing, not the popularity of Bitcoin.  Why not just say, the more we delay investing, the harder for us to get the "magical number".

[Mrbluntzy]

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

what you mean is not to hold $360 for 10 years but you will continue to invest $360 in Bitcoin every year for the next 10 years and after that 10 years, you total invested capital would be $3600 but your profit must have been as much as your capital too or even more depending how many percent that Bitcoin price is going to do.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich.

You want to be reach? And then you are planning on investing just $3600 in 10 years    (maybe that's what is comfortable for you but the higher you invest, the higher your ROI), every investment has the same principle, the higher your invested capital, the higher your reward (ROI). You want to make more profit and become rich? Then, plan to invest more money.

[Zigabel]

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Firstly the idea shouldn't be to get rich quickly from Bitcoin, and as it regard the hopes of getting rich from Bitcoin, it is still very much possible, going by the calculations you have made already, if Bitcoin goes appreciates, it will do far more than that which you have projected, because your projection is mostly based on a case where Bitcoin does not appreciate and than who said Bitcoin is not going to do up to 10x in the next 5 to 10 years.

Well you should not project wealth from Bitcoin so you don't get disappointed in a situation it does not turn out as you had expected or within the time frame you had projected it to had worked. but then you never can tell Bitcoin can exceed your expectations and just so you know, it does leverage on its popularity to gain value via the increase in the demand.

[suzanne5223]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap, I grabbed my calculator and do some maths on the money I can afford to risk on Bitcoin every month, equals to $30.

I believe you missed the point when they said Bitcoin is still cheap, they are talking about what the price will be in the next few years, and you'll be surprised that a lot of people are making this exact calculation you're doing when Bitcoin was $10,000.
Now that it is in the $80,000-$100,000 price range, they are saying how they wish.

Have you read the story about the man who invested $27 in Bitcoin years ago, that forgets about it, but later sees worth $886k?
When people said BTC is still cheap, they are talking about the high demand and low supply that will happen after all 21 million BTC is mine.

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

It is possible if you continue accumulating, and we have passed the days when the dream of every common man is to hold the whole BTC. However nothing is impossible. But, every fraction you hold now will contribute a lot of benefit for you in the future.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

Bitcoin is not a quick to rich scheme, and if you don't understand its historical data, price wont believe the price momentum to achieve more than 10x in the years, and gone are the days when governments still doubted the potential of BTC.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result

It will still be a more effective result if you do so now. Everything you're saying is the exact mistake some people made back in 2020.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Bitcoin is cheap as far that anyone can buy it with any amount of money they have. If Bitcoin were not cheap, it should have a fixed minimum amount that anyone must have before they can buy, maybe something like $1k like based on the price per Bitcoin currently but not ,even someone who has $10 can buy Bitcoin. That means it is cheap. So now it is left for individuals to decide the amount of Bitcoin they want to buy.

Another thing is that Bitcoin was not created to make anyone rich. Those who became rich through Bitcoin simply saw it as an asset worth investing in and they invested in it. They were lucky to become rich through it. Even they may never have thought that Bitcoin’s price would rise this high in such a short period of time. So if you truly want to invest in Bitcoin, never think it will make you rich just  Invest in Bitcoin because of inflation. Instead of saving fiat money in bank, it is better to invest in Bitcoin.so investment $30 every month is not bad ot still beter that saving fait whaich will later disvalue with time.

[JaanusRaim]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap, I grabbed my calculator and do some maths on the money I can afford to risk on Bitcoin every month, equals to $30.

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Every era has its own opportunities and Bitcoin is certainly NOT one of them in 2025 because BTC is strongly overvalued. If you want to find really good investment opportunities, you have to look at assets that feel like Bitcoin was felt in 2009-2012 - the assets that are at their early stage and not acknowledged like real assets yet. You have to look at asset that seems like a joke.

May-be, after a great price depreciation, Bitcoin will be a great opportunity after some time again.

[tabas]

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich.

I can understand you for thinking like this because those who have invested earlier have become rich now. But, it's the same dilemma as what you're saying now back then. It's even harder in the past when most people think of Bitcoin as a scam and it's just another internet scam. But they took the risk even if the world thought of them as crazy investors but they still did, lump summed and DCAed until the end. It's not about how much you can invest, it's all about the consistency that you can do with the resources that you have now.

[aysha9853]

I think the problem is expectations Bitcoin was never a guaranteed path to wealth, especially not now. DCA 30 dollars a month will not make you rich, but it can still beat holding cash long term.

[Patikno]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap, I grabbed my calculator and do some maths on the money I can afford to risk on Bitcoin every month, equals to $30.

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

There is no need to be discouraged. What you need to do is upgrade your skills and generate a reliable source of income, so you can effectively DCA as you desire. You should also read about the history of people who sold their Bitcoin too soon, so you can realize how many people regret not holding their Bitcoin long-term. Furthermore, maybe people back then didn't believe that gold could experience the high price increases it has today, and perhaps the same was true for those who owned Bitcoin when its price was much lower than it is today.

Some key points to consider about Bitcoin:

1. Its supply is limited.
2. It can't be printed more like fiat.
3. Transactions can be made anytime, anywhere.
4. It has clear utility.
5. It is very difficult to hack, which means it is secure.

I am sure there are many more key points about Bitcoin, and there are many reasons why it has the potential to increase 10-fold, or more one day. So, I hope you understand some of what I have said, and I suggest you read more about Bitcoin, or try comparing it to fiat. Cmiiw.

[Alpha Marine]

Well, if it's too expensive for you to buy now, I guess you can always wait for another 5 years because it would be cheaper then.  

Bitcoin was not designed to make you rich. The fact that it made people rich doesn't mean that it was designed for that reason. It was just an added advantage.
Having an investment isn't just about making you rich, its also for having money that can be used to move a couple of steps higher, financially. Rich or not, what matters is that you are in a better place financially.

It's not too late to buy bitcoin. There is no point looking at what could have been when you have no way of changing the past. We missed out on the opportunity to buy bitcoin when it was relatively cheaper, but now you have an opportunity to buy now.
I believe there was somebody who felt the way you feel when Bitcoin was $10k, and somebody will still feel this when its $1 million. You may feel its too late now, but there will be someone in the future that would wish he bought Bitcoin when it was about $90k, the same way we wish we bought when it was $1k.

[bounceback]

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If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Even though it doesn't make you rich, by investing your money in bitcoin, at least it will keep its value, the global economy is currently unstable and makes inflation occur everywhere, even the price of necessities also rises to be more expensive so that fiat money loses its value when we use it to make purchases, so far you have made the right decision because you do DCA on bitcoin every month with a capital of $ 30, but if you are always consistent in accumulating bitcoin every month with that amount of capital, it will also be able to make you rich, but you have to accumulate it for 10 years consistently and after that, just enjoy the returns that will be given by bitcoin.

[davis196]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap, I grabbed my calculator and do some maths on the money I can afford to risk on Bitcoin every month, equals to $30.

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

The early adopters get a way higher reward than the latecomers. There's nothing wrong with this. There's no way for the BTC price to increase 10x in the next 10 years. The rapid growth era of Bitcoin is most likely gone. If you want 10x growth, then maybe you should focus on something else, like the next big altcoin, or investing in some "unicorn" startup company, that is going to be become the next OpenAI.
There's no reason to complain and feel regrets about not being an early Bitcoin investor. The past is gone and there's no way to go back.
It's like feeling regrets for not buying NVIDIA stocks 2-3 years ago, when the NVIDIA market capitalization was 10 times lower.

[Pi-network314159]

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Yes Bitcoin is becoming harder to get and the price is becoming slower to increase like it was before. The truth is that during the early days of Bitcoin, people neglected it and see it as nothing because there was nothing like digital asset but however when it gain popularity it started increasing. Only those who risk to buy it without considering if the speculation was true or not, where the one that achieved it because they bought it cheap and it boom. Those early stage it was easy to achieved %100 or %200 but now getting %100 of Bitcoin price will require a lot of market cap increase. That is 2X market cap of the current one will make %100. Definitely it is getting harder.

[Doan9269]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap

Why is bitcoin not cheap, when everyone can be affordable to its investment and can make decision at any given time base on what they wanted, bitcoin is free and anyone could gain access to using it, we don't have to go through the centralized institutions before we can have it, so i don't know what others meant by saying its not cheap, we only need to figure out the aspect we have more proficiency and then trade or invest as it applies for us to do.

[Majestic-milf]

 From what you said it shows you've not even started but are already letting what you potentially stand to lose affect you. Know this, there's no point in crying over the fact that Bitcoin has moved past the early stages where you could purchase a lump sum with small change, rather start from where you're, no matter how little you have as long as that money you intend to invest isn't an amount that would break tour savings.
Bitcoin investment is patience. It's like a farmer that plants a seed and carefully nurtures and tends to the plant believing one day it would turn into a big tree.

[Taskford]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap, I grabbed my calculator and do some maths on the money I can afford to risk on Bitcoin every month, equals to $30.

This equals to $360 in 12 months and let's say I am ready to hold for 10years to this time that's $3600 in the next ten years assuming Bitcoin don't appreciate in value, but we all know that's almost impossible.

Now even if Bitcoin did a 10x in between these ten years (might never happen) I still won't be rich. This is me, this is what I can afford to even lose if worst possible happens, to my own standard way of living I can't get rich off Bitcoin, simply because what I can afford to DCA every month seems very small.

If I can DCA same $30 in 2020 it would be a more effective result, I guess the more Bitcoin gets popular the chances of getting rich goes slower, I am a listener you are free to talk senses to me I will listen. I believe right now and the more the years passes by Bitcoin becomes more harder to get you the magical number.

Many people think the same before and look what happen to them, those people regret on why they didn't buy Bitcoin before and think its expensive or got afraid if it dies totally. Your sentiments right now is provably same with other people on the past so hopefully you won't regret these in future.

Its good that you already know Bitcoin at this point and what you need to do next is to learn more helpful things that can increase your knowledge and belief on Bitcoin. I also believe that in future the only thing you can do to get Bitcoin is to buy it, since those activities on which you can earn Bitcoin would provably vanish and demand will provably rise especially that there are few millions of Bitcoin exist in market.

[CryptoBuds]

Bitcoin is not cheap, YouTubers are fine-tuning it as if Bitcoin is still cheap

Why is bitcoin not cheap, when everyone can be affordable to its investment and can make decision at any given time base on what they wanted, bitcoin is free and anyone could gain access to using it, we don't have to go through the centralized institutions before we can have it, so i don't know what others meant by saying its not cheap, we only need to figure out the aspect we have more proficiency and then trade or invest as it applies for us to do.

Yes, Bitcoin is free, and people can buy it whenever they want, with any amount of money they have, and without anyone's permission. However, that doesn't mean it's cheap.

Whether Bitcoin is expensive or cheap is determined by supply and demand, and has nothing to do with accessibility, decentralization, or centralization...Anyone can buy bitcoin without permission and with any amount of money they have, which only shows that bitcoin is a fairer asset class, not a cheaper one.

Currently, Bitcoin has a market capitalization of nearly $2 trillion and is valued at almost $100k per bitcoin, making it one of the top 10 largest assets in the world. How can you say it's still very cheap or too small?

[Bastketsrus]

We don't know where Bitcoin can still reach, but it's undeniable those who started investing earlier had access to the biggest potential profit. They took the risks and entered an investment nobody else believed could work for real.

Now, if you are looking for something similar, you should be do your research for another concept of investments. Something which fits Bitcoin role during the early 2010's. Something very few people are paying attention to and that has a hidden potential most people can't see yet.

That is where biggest profits come from... The tricky part is that no one is going to tell you what it is. You most likely have to discover by yourself.

Exactly. Early Bitcoin gains came from taking risks when most people didn’t believe. Finding something similar today means doing your own research and thinking ahead. If everyone already agrees, the big opportunity is probably gone.