Is "Responsible Gambling" just a legal disclaimer, not a real protection?

[Judith87403]

Both sides holds truth. Tools for responsible gambling do help certain players place limits and break before things go out of hand. At the same point, they also perform a legal and public-relations purose for casinos. By giving warnings, limits and self-exclusion, platforms will also show they did their part, which moves most of the responsibility to the player. The caption "play responsibly" may feel hollow because it sits next to creations that is suppose to make players play longer. Therefore true, it may act as a guard ad equally a protection. The main problem is the fact that responsibility is divided, yet dividends are not. Casinos makes gain from play, but players carry more of the risk.

[Kasabus]

As much as gamblers have their own responsibilities when gambling, the casino itself is also obliged to follow some certain rules that would benefit the gamblers, that's why reminders are always made prior to the start of betting. The casino has never failed on it,  but its always the gamblers that are set to create their own rules, and when consistent losses have occurred, then everything will point to the casino as the one to be blamed.

The casino never fail to protect us, but they can't do nothing because we also have our own ways to protect us. And having casinos is a business, you have to prioritize how to make your business works without leading gamblers into high gambling addiction.

[PrivacyG]

I remember the first years I ever tried Cryptocurrency Casinos and I can not remember a single website that had a strong obsession to take care of their own customers.  I do not believe any thing has changed except laws and what other Casinos do.  As I said a while ago, Tobacco producers do not place the warning and explicit images on the package because they want to.  They would not if they could.

I believe it is not different from Casinos either.  Not to mention that even these laws in my opinion do not come from real care of the Governments for their own citizens.  I personally do not know one single person who gave up smoking or Gambling because they told them it causes cancer or that they should Gamble responsibly.

[Hypnosis00]

To become a responsible gambler is a personal choice. Casinos have nothing to do with a gambler acting in a contrary manner. They give warnings and promote responsible gambling, but they can't influence the gambler from being irresponsible.

We know they are looking for more profit/income, but I believe they don't want a gambler to suffer big losses because of their wrong gambling approach. We can't say they don't care about gamblers. It happens that casinos can't control them. We can't blame the casino for our addiction because we have the option, yet we choose to live with the wrong approaches.

It is a fundamental right that cannot be violated and it makes us bold enough to face the results of any action we perform in life since it is a right of choice. I understand that until we manage to rectify our understanding of pleasure, we will not be able to resolve the issue of cornering service providers. You show how individual responsibility is the major aspect of ensuring we do not dig the trap of self-misery. We should realise that we are left with all the major decisions and it is not the environment giving us the means to do it.

It is regrettable that even after seeing so many gamblers fall into addiction, many still refuse to change. When they suffer the consequences, they end up blaming the casino for what happened to them.

What is even harder to accept is that many never learn from their mistakes. That is why giving them warnings every day is pointless, as it won't work. Gamblers have different mindsets as well. They gamble for money, not for entertainment, which I believe will be difficult to change until they open their minds.

[Wind_FURY]

It’s like dropping a  wey sharp knife and saying, be careful so you don’t cut yourself, when you could’ve simply removed the knife there. Gambling is naturally addictive and it takes only those who are extremely disciplined to be able to navigate the complexities and dangerous sides of gambling. Gambling is framed in a way that majority of gamblers get addicted to, so a simple disclaimer isn’t just enough to salvage the situation. But who are we kidding? Casinos deep inside wants gamblers to gamble irresponsibly as they tend to benefit more from irresponsible gambling.

I believe not. The casinos don't want their users to lose large amounts of money in a short amount of time because that would definitely make people actually STOP gambling forever. Casinos have kept the house edge low because they want their users to win sometimes so that they keep coming back, WHILE maintaining their long term income.

This is the general reply of casino when it comes to discussion like this. They have a point on this since all casino games have house advantage that guarantees profit for them in the long run so they just need users to stay active hence loyalty benefits was introduced to tackle this matter.

It's not a "general reply", it's merely a business decision. It's better to make gambling a form of entertainment that users can lose and win sometimes, although they are long term losers because of the small house edge, rather than making gambling a bad experience by taking all of their users' money in the shortest amount of time possible.

 

[dunfida]

As much as gamblers have their own responsibilities when gambling, the casino itself is also obliged to follow some certain rules that would benefit the gamblers, that's why reminders are always made prior to the start of betting. The casino has never failed on it,  but its always the gamblers that are set to create their own rules, and when consistent losses have occurred, then everything will point to the casino as the one to be blamed.

The casino never fail to protect us, but they can't do nothing because we also have our own ways to protect us. And having casinos is a business, you have to prioritize how to make your business works without leading gamblers into high gambling addiction.

Casinos operate within a framework that balances profit with responsibility and that balance is often misunderstood. Warnings limits and reminders exist because regulation demands them and because long term business depends on players staying active not destroyed. A casino that burns through its users too quickly loses sustainability and reputation. Still those systems are guardrails not restraints and they cannot replace personal judgment. Once a player ignores those signals and invents private rules the responsibility shifts inward. Losses that come from breaking limits are not created by the platform but by decisions made after the warning signs were already visible.

Gambling businesses exist to generate revenue and they will always design systems that favor the house. That reality does not automatically make them predators nor does it make players powerless. Protection is shared not outsourced. Tools like limits reminders and self exclusion only work when the user chooses to respect them.

[Fredomago]

It's simply a matter of legal requirement, like the warnings on cigarette packs or in beverage commercials. It's necessary to educate users about the risks involved, but that alone doesn't solve the problem, as I mentioned in another topic about self-exclusion. These are palliative measures and depend exclusively on the gambler themselves, who often don't know or won't admit they have a problem.

Not everyone who is into gambling that will compromise advice of gambling, some people act according to what their mind told them, and i believe that is what makes people to continue making same mistakes they make in the gambling, a gambler that seek advice or accept advice such particular gambler doesn't experience harm or lost like other gamblers, what you just narrated about cigarette cover and people who participate in gambling is same thing, all we do is all about risk, and i believe that we need to know that, in case some of us failed to know that gambling is all about risk

Just a reminder and same with what OP said it's legal basis that they did remind players but in reality still it's up the gambler if how they'll treat their gambling participation, some may able to limit and avoid getting addicted and there are also other gambler who will suffer as they failed to control themselves and they engage too much then suffer into addiction.

[Ishicryptic]

Any features for responsible gambling in a casino is to fulfill all righteousness that if you gamble irresponsibly you cannot hold them responsible so it's up to the gamblers to know what they want. It's like an alcoholic beverage brand that tells you to drink responsibly, it is a warning for your own good but if you don't take the advice you will make them richer by higher consumption. Responsible gambling lies with every gambler, it is their money at stake, if they lose the casino will become richer so they shouldn't depend on the casino to make them understand that irresponsible gambling is destructive.

[Wind_FURY]

Any features for responsible gambling in a casino is to fulfill all righteousness that if you gamble irresponsibly you cannot hold them responsible so it's up to the gamblers to know what they want.

It's like an alcoholic beverage brand that tells you to drink responsibly, it is a warning for your own good but if you don't take the advice you will make them richer by higher consumption. Responsible gambling lies with every gambler, it is their money at stake, if they lose the casino will become richer so they shouldn't depend on the casino to make them understand that irresponsible gambling is destructive.

It's not just that. Casinos are actually REQUIRED by the government to have Responsible Gambling features. It's not whether they work or not, nor is it for the casino to avoid blame. It's a REQUIREMENT.

Casinos will probably not install those features if the regulators didn't require them to do it.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Is it really true that when casinos claim to protect players based on the idea of "responsible gambling", but in reality they are using this tool to shield themselves from gamblers legally? They claim that they have given the gamblers a chance not to become addict or lose money on their platform.

So now responsibility is shifted away from the platform and onto the individual. And in a hindsight, "Play responsibly" is somewhat design to be opposite, as it could encourage us to play more?

There was never a time the casinos was to bear responsibility for any gamblers action and gambling decision, reason being that the casino never called or forced any person to come gamble on their platform, if a gambler playing on a casino loses control and gets addicted, it's he's responsibility and not the casino's.

Personally, I don't see and treat the "gamble responsibly" note as a disclaimer, I see it more as a warning and reminder of the importance to actually gamble responsibly to avoid losing too much money and worst of all; getting addicted.
Every gambler is responsible for his or her actions when ever they gamble on a casino, the casino can't take responsibility when they are not the one that told the gambler to gamble carelessly.

[Dunamisx]

Responsible gambling is what everyone of us needs and deserve to have, all because we can't be gambling on our own the way we like and not run a check in knowing how far or well it has been with us over time, a responsible gambling comes with a decision for going on what is best for us, doing the right thing at the right time, without placing baby negative impression nof gambling into our own self or other's relations in gambling.

[demonica]

Well they already did their part to remind their players to gamble responsibly. What else do they need to do? They can't monitor each players if they're already getting too much into gambling. Also, they can't and won't really stop them from gambling since they're a business after all. What really matters to them is to earn income. It's up to the players how they will handle themselves when gambling.

It's simply the same with cigarettes. Cigarettes usually have claims on the packaging and even adding pictures of what could excessive smoking can do to your body, but of course they still have to sell it since it's their product. So it's up to the end user... They're all adults after all, they can decide for themselves and we are all responsible for our own decisions.

[criptoevangelista]

This is meant to maintain common sense, but in practice we all know it doesn’t really work. It’s the same thing as cigarette ads saying to drink in moderation or that smoking causes cancer. Everyone knows gambling is addictive and that people can start playing compulsively. And casinos love that, so they put those messages there just as decoration. In reality, casinos want to make money, alcohol companies want to sell drinks, and that’s how it is. The world works like this. The problem is that nowadays everything is very politically correct, and it gets annoying sometimes. Most of the time, the world today is becoming very annoying.

[Wind_FURY]

This is meant to maintain common sense, but in practice we all know it doesn’t really work. It’s the same thing as cigarette ads saying to drink in moderation or that smoking causes cancer. Everyone knows gambling is addictive and that people can start playing compulsively. And casinos love that, so they put those messages there just as decoration. In reality, casinos want to make money, alcohol companies want to sell drinks, and that’s how it is. The world works like this. The problem is that nowadays everything is very politically correct, and it gets annoying sometimes. Most of the time, the world today is becoming very annoying.

Banning, or making such things illegal, WON'T work in practice too. What that is going to do is make people who are willing to run illegal gambling operations, or if cigarettes/alcoholic drinks of any sort are banned, people who are willing to smuggle them rich.

 

[Taskford]

This is meant to maintain common sense, but in practice we all know it doesn’t really work. It’s the same thing as cigarette ads saying to drink in moderation or that smoking causes cancer. Everyone knows gambling is addictive and that people can start playing compulsively. And casinos love that, so they put those messages there just as decoration. In reality, casinos want to make money, alcohol companies want to sell drinks, and that’s how it is. The world works like this. The problem is that nowadays everything is very politically correct, and it gets annoying sometimes. Most of the time, the world today is becoming very annoying.

Banning, or making such things illegal, WON'T work in practice too. What that is going to do is make people who are willing to run illegal gambling operations, or if cigarettes/alcoholic drinks of any sort are banned, people who are willing to smuggle them rich.

 

For many times we have seen government declaring gambling as illegal and worst they ban it, but it didn't actually stop people to gamble that's why there are lots of illegal casinos still raising because they can still acquire lots of demand to people want to gamble online.

So instead of discouraging or banning that industry and get nothing, much better for government to regulate and make online gambling hard to access by people which have limited budget, especially if they asked the casino to increase their deposit limit which they make it accessible for rich guys only. With this I think they can work everything so well and also can get revenue for their country then use it for valuable projects.

[imthegreat]

Is it really true that when casinos claim to protect players based on the idea of "responsible gambling", but in reality they are using this tool to shield themselves from gamblers legally? They claim that they have given the gamblers a chance not to become addict or lose money on their platform.

So now responsibility is shifted away from the platform and onto the individual. And in a hindsight, "Play responsibly" is somewhat design to be opposite, as it could encourage us to play more?

I understand what you mean: a warning/disclaimer in some online and even land-based casinos that requires self-control and that one should resist the urge to make a large, ill-considered bet or over-deposit.
Well, it's likely that the casino is indeed absolving itself of liability, but only if the gambler is required to check the box under the warning text stating that they have read and understood it all. But in the real world, no one reads agreements online; just think about how many seconds it takes us to skim through license agreements.

[Ziskinberg]

Well, it's likely that the casino is indeed absolving itself of liability,<>

That’s true, and casinos aren’t really responsible when we lose while gambling.
From the start, gambling has unpredictable outcomes, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, that’s just how it works.

That’s why the warnings are there, similar to drinking moderately. Gambling should also be done in moderation. Once you go beyond that, it’s no longer enjoyment, it turns into pure recklessness and a waste of money.

So casino will always  display these words "gambling responsibly" ( even if you are no longer happy anymore).

[bitbollo]

I would say that... even if casinos try to "protect players" ... they don't want at all "responsible gambling".
What is worst... in some cases there are have been clear cases of missing ToS or other usefull details for gamblers...
Of course this is going to change. Even if a casino has to not follow certain laws, there are new ethical standard arising for the industry...

[ovcijisir]

Is it really true that when casinos claim to protect players based on the idea of "responsible gambling", but in reality they are using this tool to shield themselves from gamblers legally? They claim that they have given the gamblers a chance not to become addict or lose money on their platform.

So now responsibility is shifted away from the platform and onto the individual. And in a hindsight, "Play responsibly" is somewhat design to be opposite, as it could encourage us to play more?

I think that promoting responsible gambling is just a facade and not something that casinos honestly promote. The most loyal casino visitors are probably addicts. So it doesnt make sense to hinder their most loyal customers. But on the other side any action towards more responsibility and accountability is good, even if not 100% honest.

[YOSHIE]

So now responsibility is shifted away from the platform and onto the individual. And in a hindsight, "Play responsibly" is somewhat design to be opposite, as it could encourage us to play more?

In my understanding, the meaning of "responsibility" if analyzed broadly, in the world of gambling can be called "Awareness, Commitment, Accountability and so on.
If someone already has a bond of responsibility in gambling for themselves, they will understand the actions of carrying out gambling activities where of course betting will have both good and bad impacts on them.
In another sense, those who have the responsibility to gamble are of course ready to face and accept the consequences that will occur, such as financial management, indeed and losing when gambling.

In short, those who have the characteristics of a responsible gambler always dare to take risks.