Corruption at the deepest levels? (The Mopar Cult)

[bitbollo]

Can you provide please one (literally one) proof of what you're claiming? Where is a single connection?
No. Your intuitions are not a proofs...  What are you saying as valid? Nothing. STOP USE AI!
 
Have you tried maybe to find some connection between wallets? The way the have posted in the forum?
Maybe they have mistakenly used their account for mistake? No of course no.

After the mistery DT gang (@fillippone amico mio ancora mi fa ridere sta roba )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277761.msg66138106#msg66138106

Now you're posting accusation of two accounts connected, with no proofs. Calling the topic " Corruption at the deepest levels? (The Mopar Cult)"
Well... I would just really close here any of these discussions. No one seems to sympathize with such crazy accusations... literally crazy.
Have you ever seen how people show connections?
Ok https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5565046.0 or https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5569174.0
there are many of these topics... blame people with no proofs is really bad.

I gave the most accurate personal view I could in a professional manner. Testifying to the patterns I’ve witnessed and gut feelings that I’ve had. I’m not the only one who connects them together. If it’s not true that they are same person well I indicated that was totally plausible. Although my view of them has hardly changed. I acknowledge the good they have accomplished but I don’t give them a pass to do wrong by myself or others. Which they do when they bash, insult, insinuate, and derail members and their posts. They are guilty for the very same thing some my view this post as. Total hearsay. One man’s opinion. A discrediting suspicion or opinion.

my 1 satoshi (I have spent already one with previous post...)
A personal view/opinion doesn't means nothing after you have "exposed" more or less... dozen of times the same people?
Have you seen or found something VALID? Nothing that you are mentioning could barely seen as "real" for tagging two accounts as "related to the same owner"... even to see something scam. Where is the issue here?!? ....
I have even send some examples for "highlight connections".
Here there is NOTHING OF THIS. Opinions doesn't have any value without proofs...

[Kazkaz27]

my 1 satoshi (I have spent already one with previous post...)
A personal view/opinion doesn't means nothing after you have "exposed" more or less... dozen of times the same people?
Have you seen or found something VALID? Nothing that you are mentioning could barely seen as "real" for tagging two accounts as "related to the same owner"... even to see something scam. Where is the issue here?!? ....
I have even send some examples for "highlight connections".
Here there is NOTHING OF THIS. Opinions doesn't have any value without proofs...

Bitbollo, these two have set out to harass, discredit, and derail everything I’ve done ever since they mistakenly claimed falsities about me. Not only that, but they have done it to others like Howard and Stackitup. Once they deem someone a target for whatever justifications they drum up, they rally against you and throw even more wild accusations. They go and convince others in their circle to do the same. It’s gotten to the point where I defend members alone and take the heat for members such as Raritycheck, Caribbean Treasures, F*D, and others—which I’m glad to do. These two DT cult members act as a team; maybe they aren’t the same person, but admittedly, they are closely associated with common interests. Corrupt to the very core and with an army. Anyone who gives me a red trust for my post on behalf of Mopar or anonymous should look into all the accusations they’ve made up and thrown at people that didn’t ever stick. They never apologized once for their mistakes or behavior. Prideful, arrogant, and lost. It’s insanity. They don’t like it when others like myself share their thoughts that could negatively impact them or influence others. Why would it be okay for them? It’s not. Your point is valid. Opinions shouldn’t matter, but the thing is, when a trusted member states publicly again and again that another member of our community is a useless nobody, it tends to have a negative effect. They are receiving a mirror. If they don’t like what they see, that should be telling. These people are actively destroying our space with this type of rhetoric. I know this for a fact. Mopar inheriting MJ’s throne was the collectibles board’s biggest downfall in history. I truly wish that someone who was actually neutral and trusted had inherited it. They want to make me as well as others disappear. But I will stay and encourage others to stay. I don’t want less people, I want more people and more innovation. I don’t see this from them. They are uninviting, superstitious and rude to newcomers as well as established members. My well of respect for there past achievements is running dry.

[MoparMiningLLC]

The account did post back then - quite often on the foriegn boards - like russian - joining bounties and such - the posts may be gone but the tags are not.

As for your claim that there is no reason to buy one - people do it all the time - to make themselves look to be longer in the space, to skip newbie restrictions, to have the rank of a more sr member etc. people do it all the time and your account looks the same way - long dormant email changed - pw changed - all old posts deleted - constant requests for a name change.
 

I have never said any lies against howard or stackitup - sure stackitup and me have had a few disagreements but nothing such as you are claiming.

And when anyone asks me about howard - i let them know he pays. Why? Because he does. Did he harass me while my mom was at a hospital for a stroke? Yes, and that is why I no longer help howard.

No campaign against either of these guys - such as you claim. You claim to have more than 80 first accoumts of people leaving the forums because of me and cant name one.

You are the one spreading misinformation and lies. But you have always been a liar and snakes may shed skins but they dont change.

The only negative impact to the forums that involves you - is you. There was so much peace while you were gone.

[Kazkaz27]

The account did post back then - quite often on the foriegn boards - like russian - joining bounties and such - the posts may be gone but the tags are not.

As for your claim that there is no reason to buy one - people do it all the time - to make themselves look to be longer in the space, to skip newbie restrictions, to have the rank of a more sr member etc. people do it all the time and your account looks the same way - long dormant email changed - pw changed - all old posts deleted - constant requests for a name change.
 

I have never said any lies against howard or stackitup - sure stackitup and me have had a few disagreements but nothing such as you are claiming.

And when anyone asks me about howard - i let them know he pays. Why? Because he does. Did he harass me while my mom was at a hospital for a stroke? Yes, and that is why I no longer help howard.

No campaign against either of these guys - such as you claim. You claim to have more than 80 first accoumts of people leaving the forums because of me and cant name one.

You are the one spreading misinformation and lies. But you have always been a liar and snakes may shed skins but they dont change.

The only negative impact to the forums that involves you - is you. There was so much peace while you were gone.

Your accusations stretch so far even Pinocchio would be jealous of your nose.

I knew you would lie if you felt threatened that’s why I posted this in an old thread to time stamp exactly what you would do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5532957.msg65092535#msg65092535

Go ahead and show that claim. I never said that. You like to change words around to make them work for you.

Dude you unleash wolves on people. I don’t stand for your cult or corruption. Your power here and how you abuse it will tear things apart. How you treat people matters and you have a responsibility that goes  
hand in hand with your status to be held to the highest standard. You fail miserably at it. Your condescending leadership, actions and lies are a money/power grab. You want so desperately to be the center of control. Members without your blessing are targets. Godfather Mopar.

[MoparMiningLLC]

To be honest I dont know how to quote feedback so I took an image:

Your words: "he has caused more people to be silent or leave the forums than he has green trust" - since my trust is at 80 - that would mean more than 80 right? Again your words.

you go further to say you have firsthand accounts - again your words not mine.



maybe you forgot this?

you continually say you don't attack me, that you have never said anything or made anything up against me - yet you have multiple threads making false claims against me and left multiple red flags - just another one today....

all you need to do is stop the bad behavior and move on. probably would never hear another peep out of me. But keep up the bullshit and yes, I as well as many others will call you on it - funny how you blame me for others calling out your bad behavior - maybe, just maybe, they are calling you out for it because they are right and it has nothing at all to do with me?

Because even Minerjones is here on this thread saying you are wrong. Or is he part of the conspiracy too? He has no trust issues with me. Polymerbit has no trust issues with me. Both of which you hold in high regard.

I treat everyone here equally also.

[Kazkaz27]

To be honest I dont know how to quote feedback so I took an image:

Your words: "he has caused more people to be silent or leave the forums than he has green trust" - since my trust is at 80 - that would mean more than 80 right? Again your words.

you go further to say you have firsthand accounts - again your words not mine.



maybe you forgot this?

you continually say you don't attack me, that you have never said anything or made anything up against me - yet you have multiple threads making false claims against me and left multiple red flags - just another one today....

all you need to do is stop the bad behavior and move on. probably would never hear another peep out of me. But keep up the bullshit and yes, I as well as many others will call you on it - funny how you blame me for others calling out your bad behavior - maybe, just maybe, they are calling you out for it because they are right and it has nothing at all to do with me?

Because even Minerjones is here on this thread saying you are wrong. Or is he part of the conspiracy too? He has no trust issues with me. Polymerbit has no trust issues with me. Both of which you hold in high regard.

I treat everyone here equally also.

That’s better. To name one for starters, StackItUp left, claiming it was because of you and AnonymousMiner. To name another, Howard—who has stayed because of my support. Others, I’m certain, because these are only from the past couple of months. How long have you been on the forum? You are averaging two people every one to two months.

I do have firsthand accounts from several outstanding members who told me to ignore your bad behavior. It’s true, and I won’t reveal them so you can’t send your wolves after them.

It’s not made up; it’s basic math that you do damage with how you treat people, and members don’t want to be around—admittedly because of you. Others are silent and want to remain neutral. Those that attack for you are in your circle jerk, contribute little to nothing, and have close to zero to lose.

Minerjones didn’t meet the criteria necessary to 100% refute the possibility. Of course you rallied MJ; everyone is inclined to believe him, as he is neutral. But regardless of that, you and Anonymous still act the same and support each other’s lies and accusations. Don’t forget that my “accusations” included the possibility that you were close associates with common interests. (You admitted to that)

You are the fattest bullshiter on the forum if you believe that you treat everyone here the same.

[tweetious]

Slightly late to the game, but I would like to mention too, that  MoparMiningLLC & anonymousminer are 2 different individuals (not the same user/person uses both accounts).

Although I do not want to get dragged into this drama, I wanted to say that IMO, regardless of your suspicions, both MoparMiningLLC & anonymousminer remain (at least to my eyes) as 2 valuable members & contributors to the collectible section of the forum.

just my 2 satoshis

[anonymousminer]

Minerjones didn’t meet the criteria necessary to 100% refute the possibility.

LMFAO!  At this point you are just a clown looking for attention.

[MoparMiningLLC]

To be honest I dont know how to quote feedback so I took an image:

Your words: "he has caused more people to be silent or leave the forums than he has green trust" - since my trust is at 80 - that would mean more than 80 right? Again your words.

you go further to say you have firsthand accounts - again your words not mine.



maybe you forgot this?

you continually say you don't attack me, that you have never said anything or made anything up against me - yet you have multiple threads making false claims against me and left multiple red flags - just another one today....

all you need to do is stop the bad behavior and move on. probably would never hear another peep out of me. But keep up the bullshit and yes, I as well as many others will call you on it - funny how you blame me for others calling out your bad behavior - maybe, just maybe, they are calling you out for it because they are right and it has nothing at all to do with me?

Because even Minerjones is here on this thread saying you are wrong. Or is he part of the conspiracy too? He has no trust issues with me. Polymerbit has no trust issues with me. Both of which you hold in high regard.

I treat everyone here equally also.

That’s better. To name one for starters, StackItUp left, claiming it was because of you and AnonymousMiner. To name another, Howard—who has stayed because of my support. Others, I’m certain, because these are only from the past couple of months. How long have you been on the forum? You are averaging two people every one to two months.

I do have firsthand accounts from several outstanding members who told me to ignore your bad behavior. It’s true, and I won’t reveal them so you can’t send your wolves after them.

It’s not made up; it’s basic math that you do damage with how you treat people, and members don’t want to be around—admittedly because of you. Others are silent and want to remain neutral. Those that attack for you are in your circle jerk, contribute little to nothing, and have close to zero to lose.

Minerjones didn’t meet the criteria necessary to 100% refute the possibility. Of course you rallied MJ; everyone is inclined to believe him, as he is neutral. But regardless of that, you and Anonymous still act the same and support each other’s lies and accusations. Don’t forget that my “accusations” included the possibility that you were close associates with common interests. (You admitted to that)

You are the fattest bullshiter on the forum if you believe that you treat everyone here the same.

stackitup did not leave, the issues stackitup and I had was over a year ago - maybe two, he is still here. Howard did not leave nor did he ever try to leave he has posted nearly daily since I sent him the link to the forums. so your claim that i have forced more people out of the forums than I have green trust is based on 2 people that have not left the forums.  You made the claim, so now please list the 80+ people or fix your feedback and stop making shit up - you are the ones spreading lies...

(also note: recently stackitup posted reputation thread against howard - is stackitup now part of the conspiracy too?)

and minerjones did not meet the criteria? wtf he has known anonymousminer for 20+ years - has posted that. He has known me for less than 5 or 6 - has posted that. Not sure what is needed to fit your criteria...

you are truly a clown.

[Kazkaz27]

Minerjones didn’t meet the criteria necessary to 100% refute the possibility.

LMFAO!  At this point you are just a clown looking for attention.

Of course you rallied MJ; everyone is inclined to believe him, as he is neutral. But regardless of that, you and Anonymous still act the same and support each other’s lies and accusations. Don’t forget that my “accusations” included the possibility that you were close associates with common interests. (You admitted to that)

Here is the rest of the quote,
Also the evidence I deemed which would be necessary in order for me to believe it was irrefutable proof. Nonetheless even if you aren’t the same person you are buttbuddies till the very end. Tied in deeply. You curse so many members out, hurling accusations and insults and think you are a positive for our community? You sir are the clown.

[Kazkaz27]

To be honest I dont know how to quote feedback so I took an image:

Your words: "he has caused more people to be silent or leave the forums than he has green trust" - since my trust is at 80 - that would mean more than 80 right? Again your words.

you go further to say you have firsthand accounts - again your words not mine.



maybe you forgot this?

you continually say you don't attack me, that you have never said anything or made anything up against me - yet you have multiple threads making false claims against me and left multiple red flags - just another one today....

all you need to do is stop the bad behavior and move on. probably would never hear another peep out of me. But keep up the bullshit and yes, I as well as many others will call you on it - funny how you blame me for others calling out your bad behavior - maybe, just maybe, they are calling you out for it because they are right and it has nothing at all to do with me?

Because even Minerjones is here on this thread saying you are wrong. Or is he part of the conspiracy too? He has no trust issues with me. Polymerbit has no trust issues with me. Both of which you hold in high regard.

I treat everyone here equally also.

That’s better. To name one for starters, StackItUp left, claiming it was because of you and AnonymousMiner. To name another, Howard—who has stayed because of my support. Others, I’m certain, because these are only from the past couple of months. How long have you been on the forum? You are averaging two people every one to two months.

I do have firsthand accounts from several outstanding members who told me to ignore your bad behavior. It’s true, and I won’t reveal them so you can’t send your wolves after them.

It’s not made up; it’s basic math that you do damage with how you treat people, and members don’t want to be around—admittedly because of you. Others are silent and want to remain neutral. Those that attack for you are in your circle jerk, contribute little to nothing, and have close to zero to lose.

Minerjones didn’t meet the criteria necessary to 100% refute the possibility. Of course you rallied MJ; everyone is inclined to believe him, as he is neutral. But regardless of that, you and Anonymous still act the same and support each other’s lies and accusations. Don’t forget that my “accusations” included the possibility that you were close associates with common interests. (You admitted to that)

You are the fattest bullshiter on the forum if you believe that you treat everyone here the same.

stackitup did not leave... he is still here. Howard did not leave nor did he ever try to leave he has posted nearly daily since I sent him the link to the forums. so your claim that i have forced more people out of the forums than I have green trust is based on 2 people that have not left the forums.  so please list 80+ people or fix your feedback - you are the ones spreading lies...

(also note: recently stackitup posted reputation thread against howard - is stackitup now part of the conspiracy too?)

and minerjones did not meet the criteria? wtf he has known anonymousminer for 20+ years - has posted that. He has known me for less than 5 or 6 - has posted that. Not sure what is needed to fit your criteria...

you are truly a clown.

I begged them both to stay. Because I don’t run people off like you do. I want our community to grow. And I want our leaders to be accountable and fair.

[MoparMiningLLC]

The claim made in OP is non-factual, not based in reality and inaccurate.


Quite a few have refuted it and yet they are all questionable and are part of the cult and minerjones only said what he said cuz he is neutral... wtf???


no he said what he said because he has known anonymousminer for decades - long before these forums.  And he has met me numerous times - pretty sure he would know if anon and me were the same person smh.


this guy spins a new lie with every post.... just farming engagement at this point.  I will no longer participate with this farce. Kaz is a liar and spreader of chaos. Avoid at all costs.

[Kazkaz27]

The claim made in OP is non-factual, not based in reality and inaccurate.


Quite a few have refuted it and yet they are all questionable and are part of the cult and minerjones only said what he said cuz he is neutral... wtf???


no he said what he said because he has known anonymousminer for decades - long before these forums.  And he has met me numerous times - pretty sure he would know if anon and me were the same person smh.


this guy spins a new lie with every post.... just farming engagement at this point.  I will no longer participate with this farce. Kaz is a liar and spreader of chaos. Avoid at all costs.

Refuted or proved it? I said nothing sort of proof would change my mind. Anyone can refute. And even if proven that you are two separate people it doesn’t make me wrong because I openly admitted that it was totally plausible that you were closely tied and two separate people. Which if so many want to claim then fine. You like your accusations to remain open and relevant. Well so do I

[anonymousminer]

As for the possibility of a purchased account with lots of old tags by Kaz... does his account merit total match the ones from his posts??

He did get a bit more agitated at the topic this time around.

Do we really think this clown could have sat and lurked for 2.5 years??  Mr Last Word Kaz...  LMFAO!!  Decide for yourselves.


edit:
...and if it is a purchased account that would really help substantiate my early thoughts that you were setting up a long term scam with your coins and the bullshit keys you sell.


edit #2:
soooo much Russian

[Kazkaz27]

As for the possibility of a purchased account with lots of old tags by Kaz... does his account merit total match the ones from his posts??

He did get a bit more agitated at the topic this time around.

Do we really think this clown could have sat and lurked for 2.5 years??  Mr Last Word Kaz...  LMFAO!!  Decide for yourselves.

People who come here are not invited by you. Nor do you treat them as an equal. You hate people and it shows. You’re an awful person. I’d be happy to say it to you personally. Your cult doesn’t scare me. It’s weak just like your allegations that I am a Russian 💀

The claim made in OP is non-factual, not based in reality and inaccurate.


Quite a few have refuted it and yet they are all questionable and are part of the cult and minerjones only said what he said cuz he is neutral... wtf???


no he said what he said because he has known anonymousminer for decades - long before these forums.  And he has met me numerous times - pretty sure he would know if anon and me were the same person smh.


this guy spins a new lie with every post.... just farming engagement at this point.  I will no longer participate with this farce. Kaz is a liar and spreader of chaos. Avoid at all costs.

How about the part we’re if you don’t like people you cut escrow services. It’s your right to serve who you wish but you create problems with people alienate them and then cut them off. You’re the head of the collectible community and you do this with your power and it shrinks us. You shrink us with your small man attitude and behaviors. My well of respect for you is gone. You lost it. Because of your non-professionalism, insults, and accusations that you originally threw at me and others. I’ll let you eat a red trust everytime I see it

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[anonymousminer]

Some advice for our local clown Kazkaz27.





edit:
there are multiple escrow options in Mopar's defense:  Krog, Hhampuz, OGNasty
MJ didn't do them all during his time.

You have such a need to be significant, it must kill you to see what little significance you may have had here just slip away with every word you continue to type... who knows, maybe you don't even see it yet living in that world of delusional importance you've created for yourself.

[Kazkaz27]

Some advice for our local clown Kazkaz27.

edit:
there are multiple escrow options in Mopar's defense:  Krog, Hhampuz, OGNasty
MJ didn't do them all during his time.

You have such a need to be significant, it must kill you to see what little significance you may have had here just slip away with every word you continue to type... who knows, maybe you don't even see it yet living in that world of delusional importance you've created for yourself.

I don’t claim to be important. I claim that your insults and insinuations/the way you treat people is disgraceful. That you actively shrink the space. You do little to expand it and more to shrink it. You will also be eating a red trust everytime from this point forward when I see you hurl an insult/ new accusation at a member who doesn’t deserve it. Like F*D

I including others have put up with your abuse far to long. Maybe they will continue to let you get away with it. But I won’t.

[anonymousminer]

You have such a need to be significant, it must kill you to see what little significance you may have had here just slip away with every word you continue to type... who knows, maybe you don't even see it yet living in that world of delusional importance you've created for yourself.

I don’t claim to be important. I claim that your insults and insinuations/the way you treat people is disgraceful. That you actively shrink the space. You do little to expand it and more to shrink it.

The way I treat people is the way they deserve to be treated.  I will always call it like it is without the care for feelings either.  Again, say what you will about me but your opinions are worthless here now... you've cried wolf FAR too many times... you questioned one of the most trusted members on this forum... you're just a clown

[Kazkaz27]

You have such a need to be significant, it must kill you to see what little significance you may have had here just slip away with every word you continue to type... who knows, maybe you don't even see it yet living in that world of delusional importance you've created for yourself.

I don’t claim to be important. I claim that your insults and insinuations/the way you treat people is disgraceful. That you actively shrink the space. You do little to expand it and more to shrink it.

The way I treat people is the way they deserve to be treated.  I will always call it like it is without the care for feelings either.  Again, say what you will about me but your opinions are worthless here now... you've cried wolf FAR too many times... you questioned one of the most trusted members on this forum... you're just a clown

You sir are less than a dog if that’s true. I treated you with respect up until today after countless insults spanning over a year. Today was your last. You want to dispute my opinion about you and Mopar. I find you treat people unfairly. My feud has nothing to do with MJ, and respectfully, even though I trust him, I don’t trust either of you and you don’t trust me. You wish to make me concede by making it look like I accuse MJ of what you yourselves are guilty of. I was clear regarding my statements. MJ can refute as he did. Everything I said still stands. Proof is hearsay for all of it apparently.

[anonymousminer]

You have such a need to be significant, it must kill you to see what little significance you may have had here just slip away with every word you continue to type... who knows, maybe you don't even see it yet living in that world of delusional importance you've created for yourself.

I don’t claim to be important. I claim that your insults and insinuations/the way you treat people is disgraceful. That you actively shrink the space. You do little to expand it and more to shrink it.

The way I treat people is the way they deserve to be treated.  I will always call it like it is without the care for feelings either.  Again, say what you will about me but your opinions are worthless here now... you've cried wolf FAR too many times... you questioned one of the most trusted members on this forum... you're just a clown

You sir are less than a dog if that’s true.

Now you hate dogs too?? WTF??