aml score and tradeogre

[wtfonly16]

All my addresses have bad aml score https://amlcrypto.io/ due to having transactions from tradeogre. Some as bad as 88%.

Has anyone tried spending some of their previous earnings in real places, coinbase, bitcoin atm, bitpay vendors, etc?
Or has everyone who did get in trouble already in prison and thats why we don't hear anything about it?

[OmegaStarScream]

Not all crypto exchanges uses the same AML/KYT software, so just because your address is returning a bad score does not necessarily mean it'll be blocked by every single exchange and if it does, you'll just need to provide what they ask for (source of funds, personal info) if you want to access your funds.

[MusaMohamed]

All my addresses have bad aml score https://amlcrypto.io/ due to having transactions from tradeogre. Some as bad as 88%.

Has anyone tried spending some of their previous earnings in real places, coinbase, bitcoin atm, bitpay vendors, etc?
Or has everyone who did get in trouble already in prison and thats why we don't hear anything about it?

Why do you need to use any website for checking your address score?

Remember that those sites collecting information about your address entered there, and also more information like your IP address, devices and others. Using those sites only break your privacy further and it's terrible.

If you use those sites, connecting and entering information with Tor connection or at least VPN.

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[Outhue]

Does it feels that good to see your address having a good score? For what reason if I may ask? Because to me it makes no sense, there is no trophy attached to the scores, every address is alright unless they are poisonous, the only platform that I can use for checking my address are those that look for malicious tokens in your balance or maybe you have connected your address to many platforms in the past which can later cause draining and they need to be disconnected, also this doesn't have anything to do with Bitcoin address, your scores doesn't matter, stop looking for such thing online.

[nc50lc]

Has anyone tried spending some of their previous earnings in real places, coinbase, bitcoin atm, bitpay vendors, etc?

Me, but only on some local exchange (not Coinbase)
And in one instance didn't ended well as they suspended my account but they still given the opportunity to withdraw my funds.
Take note that it's after a few consecutive small to medium deposits that have transaction inputs with bad AML scores due to being "mixed".

My other experience for exchange deposits were for smaller amounts but those didn't necessarily locked or anything,
They've just asked for the fund's source for the deposit to be credited and nothing else.

But don't get confident on depositing small amounts because of what I said as it's neither of those services in your list.
Also, if it's actually from a "bad source", you will likely get a different result.

[dkbit98]

Has anyone tried spending some of their previous earnings in real places, coinbase, bitcoin atm, bitpay vendors, etc?
Or has everyone who did get in trouble already in prison and thats why we don't hear anything about it?

If you want to avoid getting your coins seized, just use decentralized exchanges and p2p trading.
Another way if you insist of using centralized exchanges is try using alternative options to check your coin score, and use strict no-kyc exchanges.
If everything else fails that you can always use atomic swap for moving BTC to lightning or other coins like monero.

[KiaKia]

I've traded on TradeOgre many times in the past and I still use the address till now, I have never come across any rating platform that could make me notices how bad my rating has become, is it even a thing? Addresses don't need any type of rating for you to believe that your address is safe or not.

[catnine1]

All my addresses have bad aml score https://amlcrypto.io/ due to having transactions from tradeogre. Some as bad as 88%.

Has anyone tried spending some of their previous earnings in real places, coinbase, bitcoin atm, bitpay vendors, etc?
Or has everyone who did get in trouble already in prison and thats why we don't hear anything about it?

lol dude, that aml score panic is real. heard tons of stories like this after using tradeogre or any no-kyc place.
ur probly not goin to jail, but trying to send those tainted coins to a place like coinbase is asking for a frozen account. theyll lock it and demand a full history.
ur best bet is to spend it somewhere that doesnt check, like a small vendor or a private peer-to-peer swap. maybe break it up into smaller chunks first. those aml checker sites are sketch tho, theyre just harvestin data.

[OmegaStarScream]

I've traded on TradeOgre many times in the past and I still use the address till now, I have never come across any rating platform that could make me notices how bad my rating has become, is it even a thing? Addresses don't need any type of rating for you to believe that your address is safe or not.

It's most definitely a thing. He just posted a link for a service that does that. Exchanges also has that and they use it for every incoming transaction that ever enters their wallets, not because they want to, but because they're required to (as per AML regulations).

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Remember that those sites collecting information about your address entered there, and also more information like your IP address, devices and others. Using those sites only break your privacy further and it's terrible.

I can see why OP would want to do it, but you're right and we're living in a surveillance state world unlike anything previous to this.

I'm curious about the "cleanness" of other coins that were sent to/withdrawn from tradeogre, xeggex, or any of those other non-kyc exchanges that used to exist.  Is there a way to check that?  (I'm guessing the answer is yes to that)

Oh, some more disheartening news: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgl2je65klo

[goldkingcoiner]

Not all crypto exchanges uses the same AML/KYT software, so just because your address is returning a bad score does not necessarily mean it'll be blocked by every single exchange and if it does, you'll just need to provide what they ask for (source of funds, personal info) if you want to access your funds.

And it seems really counterproductive when it comes to the point of AML in the first place. You would think from a point of law, the government would see this as a thorn in their side because it helps money launderers avoid detection.

But I do agree with you that the aml score from OP's website will probably not mean anything. It just seems like a pointless service meant to make a quick buck off you while feeding off your insecurities.

Lastly, is this website not a security issue in itself? Users input their addresses, which can now be connected to their other privacy data given to the site.

[terrific]

You'll only get anxious if you're going to check the AML scores of your transactions.

Or has everyone who did get in trouble already in prison and thats why we don't hear anything about it?

Not that I've heard of. There is nothing to worry about because these AML scores are just reference of its provider.
And they're not accurate at all, there can be transactions from mixers and they don't even have a high score.
Spare yourself from stress by thinking a lot of aml scores. 

[rat03gopoh]

And they're not accurate at all, there can be transactions from mixers and they don't even have a high score.
Spare yourself from stress by thinking a lot of aml scores. 

If a service doesn't want to risk a breach, they can implement multiple layers of chain analysis simultaneously on their platform (including manual checks). Even if they know the results are probabilistic, your funds will be frozen if one analyst says your address is high-risk and the others don't; this happens frequently.

You should be concerned if the service you use collaborates with an analysis vendor labeling your address as high-risk.

[bitbollo]

I have never tried these AML services and I find really pretty questionable, not only from a legal perspective (there is no clear definition about "dirty funds") but more for a basic about bitcoin.
Plus some of these services have their own ideas about gambling, p*rn, d*ugs and so on... what is legal in country A isn't legal in B and so on.
Can these services discriminate this? Or maybe these can understand WHEN a certain tx has been done?
Moreover, if they tag funds as "dirty" based on source, it could be pretty clear that we have received FIAT from many criminal organization and s*itty people too....

[noorman0]

I have never tried these AML services and I find really pretty questionable, not only from a legal perspective (there is no clear definition about "dirty funds") but more for a basic about bitcoin.

You're right, as long as there's no universal definition or standard for determining what constitutes dirty money, AML services won't be able to be objective and will simply assign scores based on what they deem criminal in their jurisdiction.

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Moreover, if they tag funds as "dirty" based on source, it could be pretty clear that we have received FIAT from many criminal organization and s*itty people too....

If the funds are "reissued" by the government through seizure, then they aren't dirty money. And that's why I think the government should eliminate the circulation of physical currency. We'd probably see news of large seizures every day.

[MusaMohamed]

I'm curious about the "cleanness" of other coins that were sent to/withdrawn from tradeogre, xeggex, or any of those other non-kyc exchanges that used to exist.  Is there a way to check that?  (I'm guessing the answer is yes to that)

It's not give any information about cleaness but about privacy scores.
Blockchair.com explorer has its Privacy o meter for Bitcoin transactions.
Blockstream.info explorer has similar feature for checking privacy scores.
https://blockstream.info/
Perhaps more Bitcoin explorers have this feature, I am not sure, and you can check them with this List of useful Bitcoin block explorers.

For altcoins, I simply don't know.

[dkbit98]

I'm curious about the "cleanness" of other coins that were sent to/withdrawn from tradeogre, xeggex, or any of those other non-kyc exchanges that used to exist.  Is there a way to check that?  (I'm guessing the answer is yes to that)

They are mostly focusing on tracking bitcoin, ethereum and similar clones like binance chain.
This rating crap is only available for bitcoin and maybe for some ethereum blockchain explorers.
Note that monero was also available on tradeogre, and it's impossible to have rating for that.

[NotATether]

Just use a mixer. (list) Nowadays mixers are designed to give you coins that are suitable for depositing into exchanges, so there is no longer a problem with taint and dirty coins.

[terrific]

And they're not accurate at all, there can be transactions from mixers and they don't even have a high score.
Spare yourself from stress by thinking a lot of aml scores. 

If a service doesn't want to risk a breach, they can implement multiple layers of chain analysis simultaneously on their platform (including manual checks). Even if they know the results are probabilistic, your funds will be frozen if one analyst says your address is high-risk and the others don't; this happens frequently.

You should be concerned if the service you use collaborates with an analysis vendor labeling your address as high-risk.

That's the only if if the platform where your funds are going is collaborated with these kinds of services.
But at first if you've found to have that high risk type of transaction, if you're clean and have no worries at all.
You only have to explain where you've got it and just be yourself when asked for the source of it if there is nothing to hide.

[examplens]

Remember that those sites collecting information about your address entered there, and also more information like your IP address, devices and others. Using those sites only break your privacy further and it's terrible.

I can see why OP would want to do it, but you're right and we're living in a surveillance state world unlike anything previous to this.

I'm curious about the "cleanness" of other coins that were sent to/withdrawn from tradeogre, xeggex, or any of those other non-kyc exchanges that used to exist.  Is there a way to check that?  (I'm guessing the answer is yes to that)

Oh, some more disheartening news: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgl2je65klo

I'm really interested in how some random AML checker would use the information of my IP address, device, etc., while I'm checking the AML score on a Bitcoin address that is only managed by you. What will they do with such a collection of data?

On some earlier reports, when I did aml checks, coins recognised by "unlicensed exchange" were most often marked as medium risk. As far as I understand, all no-kyc services are considered "unlicensed", this may be a sufficient reason for the tradeogre case as well.