Silver

[montaga]

You can manipulate the price for some time but not for ever and you cant make memory, phone, solar panel...... with paper silver.
Samsung can only get a 10th of what the want to buy, others in the same situation
Wild figures appearing of what the price will be in a few months
https://youtu.be/E-_iTYcXAjg  (Clive Thompson)
 
Day candle for the year so far. Market will open i a few hours, real action will be in the new year


Silver Production (Metric Tons)
1   Mexico   6,300    
2   China    3,300    
3   Peru       3,100
4   Chile      1,600    
5   Bolivia   1,000    
6   Australia 1,300    
7   Poland   1,300    
8   Russia   1,300
9   US        1,000    
10   Argentina    800    
   

[BADecker]

I saw the title of this thread, and I thought of The Lone Ranger's horse.

[montaga]

A subtle hind for the color of the new year.

January 2 the China physical silver export ban will be active
Remember physical possession matters

[BADecker]

Silver is funny stuff. There was a slight dump this year end.


In A Desperate Attempt To Stop The Bleeding, A Conspiracy To Force The Price Of Silver Down Is Unfolding Right In Front Of Our Eyes


https://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/in-a-desperate-attempt-to-stop-the-bleeding-a-conspiracy-to-force-the-price-of-silver-down-is-unfolding-right-in-front-of-our-eyes/#google_vignette
They aren't even trying to pretend to hide what they are doing.  Everyone knows that the meteoric rise in the price of silver in 2025 has put an immense amount of stress on certain financial institutions.  Of course nobody is publicly confirming how much damage has been done, but it must be pretty severe if CME Group is taking such extreme measures to force the price of silver down.  For the second time in less than a week, CME Group has abruptly raised margin requirements on precious metals futures…

Gold and silver prices lost ground on Wednesday as investors booked profits after a historic annual rally and exchange operator CME Group hiked the margins on precious metal futures for the second time in the space of a week.

They probably thought that it was best to pull a stunt like this during the holidays while less people are paying attention.

A statement was released by CME Group which said that this latest move to hike margin requirements was done "to ensure adequate collateral coverage"…

CME Group, one of the world's largest trading floors for commodities, said Tuesday that margins for gold, silver, platinum and palladium would increase again after the close of business Wednesday.

It said in a statement that the decision was made "as per the normal review of market volatility to ensure adequate collateral coverage."

Give me a break.

We all know why this was done.
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[montaga]

Most physical silver bars "awaiting stock", with the physical silver coins the situation is a little better.
Currently phisical silver  $93.40 (sorry just number on screen) and "paper" trating at $ 72
https://www.bullionbypost.com/silver-bars/

https://x.com/i/status/2006866025338360051
Chinese ports have begun refusing to ship silver cargo

[UmerIdrees]

Well, there is a huge demand for silver in the upcoming days, and that is not going to die away. I know both Gold and Silver are making new all-time highs, but investment in Silver at current prices is more valuable than Gold. The Gold might dump when the world economic conditions become better, but the Silver has a real use case and it will continue to go above 100$ and beyond.

Remember physical possession matters

Yeah, but even if you hold it online, what difference does it make? The prices of both the physical and virtual silver will rise simultaneously, and you can sell online silver anywhere, anytime 

[montaga]

Well, there is a huge demand for silver in the upcoming days, and that is not going to die away. I know both Gold and Silver are making new all-time highs, but investment in Silver at current prices is more valuable than Gold. The Gold might dump when the world economic conditions become better, but the Silver has a real use case and it will continue to go above 100$ and beyond.

Remember physical possession matters

Yeah, but even if you hold it online, what difference does it make? The prices of both the physical and virtual silver will rise simultaneously, and you can sell online silver anywhere, anytime  

Banks have been shorting Silver for a long time. Currently have shorts in place for all the Silver mined in the world for the next 5.5 years .
Physical and Virtual Silver price will completly detach. Physical Silver has a wide range of use, Samsung wants to buy 50 million once this year, only 5 mil available. Expect a rise in solar panels, memory, CD's etc
Even virtual Shanghai price will detach from NY,
At years end  $2,326.77 USD/kg without tax https://www.metal.com/Silver/201102250392

Manipulating Banks have started to fight amongst themselves

[montaga]

Wow,really some government still has some physical silver
https://x.com/i/status/2007453579720749321

[UmerIdrees]

Well, there is a huge demand for silver in the upcoming days, and that is not going to die away. I know both Gold and Silver are making new all-time highs, but investment in Silver at current prices is more valuable than Gold. The Gold might dump when the world economic conditions become better, but the Silver has a real use case and it will continue to go above 100$ and beyond.

Remember physical possession matters

Yeah, but even if you hold it online, what difference does it make? The prices of both the physical and virtual silver will rise simultaneously, and you can sell online silver anywhere, anytime  

Banks have been shorting Silver for a long time. Currently have shorts in place for all the Silver mined in the world for the next 5.5 years .
Physical and Virtual Silver price will completly detach. Physical Silver has a wide range of use, Samsung wants to buy 50 million once this year, only 5 mil available. Expect a rise in solar panels, memory, CD's etc

I don't get this. How can the prices of physical silver and virtual silver be detached? Both represent the same commodity and the cost of both would remain the same as both are silver.

Yes, the traders can short silver just like they short bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that the price of bitcoin in spot and futures has a big difference. Same way, there may be slight variations in Physical and Virtual silver prices but not much.

[montaga]

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I don't get this. How can the prices of physical silver and virtual silver be detached? Both represent the same commodity and the cost of both would remain the same as both are silver.

Yes, the traders can short silver just like they short bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that the price of bitcoin in spot and futures has a big difference. Same way, there may be slight variations in Physical and Virtual silver prices but not much.

There will be fireworks.
Banks (JPmorgen...) have been and do massive naked short sells, but the market can not supply the Silver what is needed, it is not available.
Silver price is manipulated, the virtual price will be irrelevant. Does not matter what the price on the screen is, if the real deal (physical) is needed to make memory, solar panels.... factory's will pay the price ask for it.
I have never seen stock so depleted
https://www.bullionbypost.com/silver-bars/
Paper to Silver ratio. For every 1 who has Silver 374 think the own Silver, reality they have worthless paper
https://www.usdebtclock.org/#

[montaga]

Even the junk silver is scooped up
https://x.com/i/status/2009373294093291748

Only 100g Silver Bars in stock, looking closer its 100 times 1 gram for $ 380,  a joke
https://www.bullionbypost.com/silver-bars/?sort=best-selling

One gram of silver cost $ 2.37 ($2,68 with tax) in Shanghai market https://price.metal.com/Silver

[fillippone]

I would short Silver, I weren't a trend follower.
Silver price has been greatly manipulated, and it is trading like a meme coin.
Silver is a meme commodity: it has no precious metal status (for a few centuries), it has little industrial value (each EV has a few grams of silver in it, for a tiny fraction of the total value), yet this is treated like it was a truly precious or industrial metal.
Nonsense.
All this ramp-up has been a short squeeze speculation, and I fail to read anything else in it.

[montaga]

...............it has little industrial value ......

Recovering of the "meme" commodity
cd https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jjrZFvrCpeg?feature=share
capacitor https://youtu.be/1wbkxDePE10
x-ray https://www.youtube.com/shorts/87QD9usLSZ4?feature=share
Transistor https://youtu.be/2NsEjLkMmwo
Watch battery https://youtu.be/wex58zgqVY4 heck even moon buggy has silver batteries
Fridge compressor https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U83K5Yx9hk4?feature=share
Electric panels, circuit breakers  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xQAjfBwyCK0?feature=share
CPU and electronic scrap https://youtu.be/QD0IwCXfk1k
Lead wheel weights https://youtu.be/KoFAGEO5Fu8
and the list goes onnnnnnn......

[KiaKia]

It seems that people want this silver run to be over as quick as possible, and I guess that's because many people never expected such run from silver or it's just their reactions when they saw the run, they missed it and they don't want to see it keep going higher.

There is one thing I have learnt in this investment space already, good things happen where people aren't expecting it, everyone was waiting for altcoin season like it was inevitable only for something else to start running like the altcoins season that was expected.

This market is no longer about what we want, it is about where opportunity presents itself and this time it's on precious metals, I don't have to beat myself for missing it, I choose to learn from it.

[Witch hunting]

This market is no longer about what we want, it is about where opportunity presents itself and this time it's on precious metals, I don't have to beat myself for missing it, I choose to learn from it.

I am also enjoy reading about the recent developments in precious metal prices.

It seems true, and buyers are also looking at the current trends, what's hot in demand. As far as I know, gold and silver are the most bullish and constantly discussed in various news threads and social media, so it's natural for them to be prepared to follow the mainstream.

[philipma1957]

I sold a lot of silver at really good prices made a few buck on it.

Been buying cheap btc with it.