Do you think if casinos removed all bonuses they will permit multiple accounts?

[Ronsbit]

OP, the truth is that wether casino removes the bonus upon registration or not, there are still gamblers who will do multiple accounts. Some gamblers make good predictions and are consistent with it back to back, and if it does not cost them much in owning multiple accounts, why won't they have it and cheat on the casinos with different identities while they do their thing? So casino removing bonuses does not mean anything to those gamblers who do so, as long as they have their ways and go undetected, nobody can do them anything.

[Japinat]

Why would you even create multiple accounts in the first place? But I do get the point, if casinos removed bonuses, then people getting accused of multi-accounting would be much safer. Casinos wouldn’t have a reason to flag them anymore since there’s no bonus abuse involved.

That said, removing bonuses is very unlikely. It’s one of the main marketing tools casinos use to attract players.
So in the end, we don’t really have a choice but to accept the setup and live with how things work now.

[Dunamisx]

Casinos cannot removed bonuses from gambling because most of their new users got fascinated to gamble on their platform by these offers, whereas such is not also the reason behind kicking against multi accounting, though it may includes, but we should come to think of it this way that the gambling platforms are operating casinos to be able to make profits from their business and not loss, most of them have genuine reasons to why they cant allow a user to have multiple accounts.

[centrum]

To me I have to reason that the main reason why casinos are not allowing double or multiple accounts on their sites is as a result of if their welcome bonus, referral bonus, and whatever bonuses..
Do you strongly believe with me that if all those bonuses are being removable from the gambling site they could permits people using multiple accounts to gamble? Take example with trading account, most of the exchange that doesn't have any sign up bonus, or even ref bonuses permit the use of multiple accounts, do you think if such is implemented to gambling they would automatically permit people sharing the same Internet protocol (IP) or even sharing the same data or using one hotspot? Aside cheating on bonuses I do not see any reason why gambling site should be restricting people, knowing too well that their aim is to make profits from users and not to stop them from getting as many accounts as they could do.

What do you think about this?

in my opinion there is a lot of truth in your argument but the issue is not limited to bonuses alone. casino sites usually prohibit multiple or duplicate accounts mainly to prevent bonus abuse because when there are welcome bonuses free spins or referral bonuses a single person can create multiple accounts and make almost risk free profit which causes major losses for the casino. however even without bonuses there are several other important reasons. using multiple accounts to play the same game or table can disrupt game balance and risk management. it also greatly increases the risk of money laundering fraud wash betting or illegally circulating funds. in many countries there are responsible gambling laws where loss limits or self exclusion are mandatory for a player and having multiple accounts makes these controls difficult to enforce. on the other hand trading platforms usually do not offer bonuses and trading is done against the market not against other users which is why some exchanges allow multiple accounts. overall it can be said that while bonuses are a major reason they are not the only reason.

[Royal Cap]

I partially agree with you. Bonuses are the main trigger, there is no way to deny that. Multiple accounts mean bonus abuse and that is where the real loss for the casino is. If there were no bonuses, this specific problem would be greatly reduced but I think bonuses are not the only reason. Casinos are also very strict in risk management. If there were multiple accounts, the same person could test the system with different strategies, close one place and enter another if they lose. Trading and gambling are a little different here, because in gambling the house edge and behavioral data are very important. So I don't think that even if the bonus is removed, it would be completely free. Maybe it would be relaxed a little, but it would not completely remove IP or device monitoring. Casinos want to make a profit but they don't want to lose control.

[Mindyspace]

Yes, I also think bonuses are the main reason, but even without them, casinos would still block multiple accounts. Multiple accounts belonging to the same person facilitate fraud, circumventing limits, and certain other types of abuse, so they prefer to take preventative measures; they're right to do so...

[xbetz.io]

Even if all bonuses were removed, casinos would still not allow multiple accounts in most cases. The main reason isn’t bonuses alone, it’s risk management.

Multiple accounts create issues around:
– AML & compliance
– collusion / soft play
– account takeovers
– liability when disputes happen

Trading platforms are a bad comparison because gambling outcomes are probabilistic, not market-driven.

Even without bonuses, casinos need to know:
– who controls the account
– whether accounts are coordinated
– whether limits are being bypassed

IP sharing alone isn’t usually the problem, behavioral patterns are.

Removing bonuses would reduce abuse but it wouldn’t remove the need for single-account policies.

[letteredhub]

Why not start from the very beginning, why would a gambler ne  ed two or more account in same casino? I think we have talked about it, but I still havent heard a strong argument why 2 accounts are more useful than 1. Play with one, level up and there would be no po ssible bet size restriction. Play using several browser tabs if gambler plans to wager more. One account is enough for everything imo.

I’m also yet to know why anyone would need more than one account in one particular casino, I mean everything is just the same, the gameplay, user interface, odds, choices of games and what have you? Which are the very reasons why any gambler would wanna try out another casino, so he’s already getting all of that exactly the same way, why need another casino? Bonuses or not, it’s not right for users to have multiple accounts in one casino, and I don’t think casinos would allow it

It's what that shouldn't be surprising to you perhaps you're a responsible person who is principled with habit of not breaking rules but you should know that there are persons who don't care about rule breaking, creating many accounts in one casino doesn't seem like anything for them what they care for is  to earn all bonuses accumulatively with all that accounts. They even lodge all those accounts into contest to increase their winning chances against other participants.

[Tigerheart3026]

Why casinos don't allow multiple accounts isn't as simple as you say, there are stronger reasons, and it's even one of the things that casinos prohibit, one of which is arbitrage betting.
You can see how casinos accuse their players of engaging in arbitrage betting, because it clearly harms the casino.
So even if all bonuses were removed, casinos could still potentially prohibit multiple accounts because there's always malicious players trying to take advantage of multiple accounts.

People these days are getting even smarter by using more than one casino to do sure betting. So i think removing bonus will quite effective to reduce the multiple accounts created. We know how sure betting is mostly prohibited in so many casin. I don't think people are stupid enough  to risk money use some accs in the same casino. Meanwhile they can do it in the multiple casino, which much more safer.

yeah it’s true, a few months ago i didn't know why people opened multiple accounts in gambling and forex. later i saw some of my friends created multi accounts and gamble for guaranteed winnings, if one bet is lose then another one is win, and getting some profits, there are no lose, it’s risk free gambling, but this concept is new, still everyone don’t know, most of gambler open multi account to get welcome bonus, first bet and deposit bonus, and many more bonuses in new account.

[|MINER|]

Here I have a counter question for you: don't gamblers try to exploit any other systems on gambling sites besides just the bonuses offered?
I know the answer here is definitely yes, in this case they try to generate guaranteed profits by betting multiple times through sportsbookies multiple accounts, if I'm not mistaken it's called Arbitrage Betting and we often see gamblers exploiting it in live games.

So in this case even if the casinos only remove the bonus offers and allow multiple accounts, they won't be safe. And of course in this case I would say that no one will harm themselves so in my opinion they will never implement such a thing.

[acroman08]

What do you think about this?

I don't think so. Money laundering, cheating, regulations, breaking the casino's rules, etc, are some of the reasons why casinos do not allow multiple accounts. Bonuses might be one of the big reasons, but bonuses aren't the only reason why most casinos don't allow multiple accounts.

[mikel_012]

The casinos will never remove bonuses. I see that new people on gambling only try gambling for the first time if they really want or if they have a friend with them.

For new people that never gambled before the best way to hook them is giving flashy bonuses because they don't understand the wagering rules so they think a 200% bonus is free guaranteed money until they start betting and see it's not like this. Then they need to recover the amount and now they are hooked

Here I have a counter question for you: don't gamblers try to exploit any other systems on gambling sites besides just the bonuses offered?
I know the answer here is definitely yes, in this case they try to generate guaranteed profits by betting multiple times through sportsbookies multiple accounts, if I'm not mistaken it's called Arbitrage Betting and we often see gamblers exploiting it in live games.

So in this case even if the casinos only remove the bonus offers and allow multiple accounts, they won't be safe. And of course in this case I would say that no one will harm themselves so in my opinion they will never implement such a thing.

But for arbitrage betting you don't need multiple accounts, just need two different casinos that is something already allowed. But many ban accounts that get caught doing this kind of bet

[Rashlyowl]

You are right that casinos would love to have lots of turns played, it makes them more profit. So, multiple accounts only hinder them from getting bigger profits, there is no reason to prohibit multiple accounts except cheating in the casino site programs & bonuses. Casino that doesn't have programs & bonuses is contrary to reality, who would want to play there?

They need it to make a difference!

[Hyphen(-)]

To me I have to reason that the main reason why casinos are not allowing double or multiple accounts on their sites is as a result of if their welcome bonus, referral bonus, and whatever bonuses..
Do you strongly believe with me that if all those bonuses are being removable from the gambling site they could permits people using multiple accounts to gamble? Take example with trading account, most of the exchange that doesn't have any sign up bonus, or even ref bonuses permit the use of multiple accounts, do you think if such is implemented to gambling they would automatically permit people sharing the same Internet protocol (IP) or even sharing the same data or using one hotspot? Aside cheating on bonuses I do not see any reason why gambling site should be restricting people, knowing too well that their aim is to make profits from users and not to stop them from getting as many accounts as they could do.

What do you think about this?

Definitely, if they stop giving welcome bonuses, multiple accounts will be allowed because they are looking for money, and if you sign up with multiple accounts and bet with multiple accounts, they will earn from you if you lose, but I don't trust them that much, especially when it comes to withdrawal of your funds from their gambling platform. KYC will be required to withdraw a big amount in most casinos. How are you going to pass the KYC with the same Identity? if they can allow the use of one ID for more than one account's KYC, then it is officially accepted to use multiple accounts because even if you have multiple accounts now they might not know until you come to KYC.

Nevertheless, how do you guys even benefit from that bonuses? I never focus on the bonus for once; I only go to the platforms, place my bet, and move on. I don't even need the welcome bonus.

[qwertyup23]

To me I have to reason that the main reason why casinos are not allowing double or multiple accounts on their sites is as a result of if their welcome bonus, referral bonus, and whatever bonuses..
Do you strongly believe with me that if all those bonuses are being removable from the gambling site they could permits people using multiple accounts to gamble?
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What do you think about this?

I think it is possible that if gambling casinos remove bonuses, then multiple accounts may be permitted.

While this may be the case, be reminded that the reason on why multiple accounts are prohibited is in order to prevent fraud. Fraud consists of the following:

1. Fraud; in order to abuse sign-up bonuses and privileges;
2. Fraud; in the sense that it allows money laundering in distributing money; and
3. Fraud; in the sense that it circumvents the need to submit KYC documents which is tied to only a single account.

I do not see online gambling companies allowing the creation of multiple accounts even if they do remove their sign-up bonuses. In fact, that kind of privilege is only a part on why most casinos prohibit it.

[Alphakilo]

What do you think about this?

I don't think so. Money laundering, cheating, regulations, breaking the casino's rules, etc, are some of the reasons why casinos do not allow multiple accounts. Bonuses might be one of the big reasons, but bonuses aren't the only reason why most casinos don't allow multiple accounts.

Casinos these days come under much scrutiny and even face tax remittance because regulatory bodies don't want gambling addiction to be on the rise. They don't want money laundering concerns to be on the rise also.
However, I think that the terms and conditions that casinos operate by won't allow multiple accounts free reign and this would also hamper the hunting down of casual players who have a second account already or intend to.

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[justinlamode]

Another reason a gambling site will not allow two or multiple accounts is arbitrage betting. We have seen some cases that this is what is used to accuse a gambler of cheating the gambling site. I do not know how this is done, or maybe the betting site is just using it as an excuse.

I don't think arbitrage betting is deeply connected with multiple account because if it does, two friends can easily connive and execute it using different devices and different internet sources and beat the multiple account issue. The major reason casinos forbids the use of multiple accounts is to prevent abuse of their referral programs and other bonuses. If these bonuses are removed, I don't think casinos will have issues with multiple accounts unless there are many other issues that I do not know.

[Dunamisx]

Since its not all the casinos that does not support for this, it is necessary that we understand the terms and condition of a casino before using them, so that we are not going to be surprised after been caught unexpectedly, i don't know what others sees in the aspect of multi accounting, but since its all about individual choice, we should know if our platform support for it or not.

[yhiaali3]

I don't think arbitrage betting is deeply connected with multiple account because if it does, two friends can easily connive and execute it using different devices and different internet sources and beat the multiple account issue. The major reason casinos forbids the use of multiple accounts is to prevent abuse of their referral programs and other bonuses. If these bonuses are removed, I don't think casinos will have issues with multiple accounts unless there are many other issues that I do not know.

You're absolutely right. Two or more friends can easily conspire and execute this using different devices and internet sources, thus bypassing the issue of multiple accounts, similar to collusion in poker, for example.

However, manipulation can also occur through multiple accounts, and this is easier than contacting friends and agreeing to collude. Therefore, casinos don't want to leave any room for such a scenario, in addition to the other main reasons related to preventing the misuse of referral programs and other bonuses.

[blockman]

OP, the truth is that wether casino removes the bonus upon registration or not, there are still gamblers who will do multiple accounts. Some gamblers make good predictions and are consistent with it back to back, and if it does not cost them much in owning multiple accounts, why won't they have it and cheat on the casinos with different identities while they do their thing? So casino removing bonuses does not mean anything to those gamblers who do so, as long as they have their ways and go undetected, nobody can do them anything.

Yes that's the truth with the casinos. They don't mind removing all of the bonuses and they'll still restrict users about multi accounting. It's not a trouble to the casinos if they'd stop it all when these bonuses are part of their marketing strategy. The users who will multi account will do it regardless if bonuses are there or not. They can use the multi accounts in advantage and one of it is with poker tables that I've read that it's actually happening although I haven't encountered one of it that have done it or maybe I did but it's not vulgar.