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December 30, 2025, 07:38:47 AM
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Recently, the price of gold has risen significantly, even reaching a new record high of $4,384 during its surge on the spot market.
However, with its rising price, many people now doubt its authenticity. Even professionals must melt or cut gold to determine its authenticity. Gold can sometimes appear flawless on the surface, but contains impurities within.
Unlike Bitcoin, where anyone can verify its authenticity, and Bitcoin cannot be counterfeited, Bitcoin remains the only asset completely safe from counterfeiting.



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Gold authenticity is becoming harder to guarantee — even for professionals. As verification methods improve, so do scams. Today, gold can look perfect on the surface, pass basic tests, yet still be diluted inside with materials like tungsten. Detecting this often requires cutting, melting, or advanced lab analysis — after damage is already done.
Bitcoin is fundamentally different.
Anyone, anywhere, can verify Bitcoin’s authenticity with 100% certainty, instantly, without trust, permission, or intermediaries. No surface tests, no labs, no “cutting it open.” The network itself enforces truth.
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December 30, 2025, 08:41:48 AM
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Recently, the price of gold has risen significantly, even reaching a new record high of $4,384 during its surge on the spot market.
It was actually $4,562 per ounce, that is it's new Ath record.. Gold is up because people are worried about a falling economy..yet it remains an analog asset. You still need an expert to test it just to prove it isn't fake. Bitcoin solves this by replacing trust with math. On the blockchain, every coin is verified instantly, and double spending is literally impossible. How many systems do we have that can do that? None.. Many articles this year says that gold performance beat that of bitcoin in 2025, which seemed to be true. But then, Even if gold is outperforming Bitcoin in the short term, gold is still a system that can be faked, manipulated and controlled by the government. Bitcoin is the only financial system in history that is 100% counterfeit proof and open for anyone to audit. Gold is the hedge of the past, Bitcoin is the truth of the future. Don't trust, verify..

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December 30, 2025, 08:57:14 AM
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That's no reason to say that gold isn't useful or isn't a good asset. We could say that Bitcoin is a good asset; it could also be the favourite investment asset for most people these days but that's purely because it has the potential to get people more profits in a shorter period compared to gold because gold's price is not as volatile as Bitcoin's. However, gold still has its market share, and it's a highly valuable and useful asset in the world, and it provides more stable profits because it doesn't lose value as much as Bitcoin does.

It's true that gold cannot always be pure, and a lot of people mix other materials in it to increase the weight and get more money, but someone with experience and knowledge about gold and how it can be checked can easily find out whether a gold being sold to them is pure or not, but it's true that customers who buy gold can't easily determine this thing, but those who do business with gold can find out. For customers, they need to buy gold only from trusted vendors or sellers, so that they are not deceived.

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December 30, 2025, 09:12:21 AM
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I don't agree with the title of your thread at all, yes, bitcoin is solid investment but it doesn't mean other assets like gold are not worth investing on.

If you carry out proper check before purchasing gold I don't think you will have this issue of buying counterfeit, beside if you are scared of buying physical gold you can always opt for gold ETFs which moves in same price with physical gold.
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That's no reason to say that gold isn't useful or isn't a good asset. We could say that Bitcoin is a good asset; it could also be the favourite investment asset for most people these days but that's purely because it has the potential to get people more profits in a shorter period compared to gold because gold's price is not as volatile as Bitcoin's. However, gold still has its market share, and it's a highly valuable and useful asset in the world, and it provides more stable profits because it doesn't lose value as much as Bitcoin does.

It's true that gold cannot always be pure, and a lot of people mix other materials in it to increase the weight and get more money, but someone with experience and knowledge about gold and how it can be checked can easily find out whether a gold being sold to them is pure or not, but it's true that customers who buy gold can't easily determine this thing, but those who do business with gold can find out. For customers, they need to buy gold only from trusted vendors or sellers, so that they are not deceived.

Of course Gold has its uses in electronics, space, jewellery and what not but
its easy to be counterfeited as the OP points out. Compared to Bitcoin which
cannot.

I don't agree with the title of your thread at all, yes, bitcoin is solid investment but it doesn't mean other assets like gold are not worth investing on.

If you carry out proper check before purchasing gold I don't think you will have this issue of buying counterfeit, beside if you are scared of buying physical gold you can always opt for gold ETFs which moves in same price with physical gold.

So I totally agree with the thread title.

Many people who own a significant amount of Gold dont actually own the
physical Gold, they own a certificate to say they own it, its called Paper Gold.
That is totally against one of the main ideas of Bitcoin and taking self custody.

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December 30, 2025, 09:38:20 AM
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So I totally agree with the thread title.

Many people who own a significant amount of Gold dont actually own the
physical Gold, they own a certificate to say they own it, its called Paper Gold.
That is totally against one of the main ideas of Bitcoin and taking self custody.
If you ask me, what I can say is that Bitcoin is a preferable store of value in terms of self custody but that does not mean other assets are worthless.

There's a saying that you should never store your eggs on one basket. I think diversifying in your investment will profit you better than depending on one, the only thing is you will need to invest more on the one you trust most (in this case bitcoin), but the title of the thread encourages only bitcoin investment and at such I disagree with that.
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If you ever heard of digital gold, then bitcoin is what they are referring to, it high in profitability, trusted and reliable as well as being decentralized, unlike the way other assets are found being centralized, bitcoin serves a multiple benefits from where it's being made applicable, we needed to know more about this emerging trend of bitcoin and be able to apply it for our uses in financial economy, it's never a bad idea having most of our assets in bitcoin, then few on other physical assets just to fulfill all purpose of investment diversification.

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I remember when my wife wanted to buy gold from one of the companies that was trending in my country, I forbade her and then transferred the money to bitcoin, I said "the gold from that company looks shady and may have been contaminate". A few years later we managed to build a house from the results of our bitcoin investment and made my wife believe in bitcoin more. Then the gold company I mentioned above is now closed because law enforcement arrested the owner for counterfeiting and imprisoned.

 
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December 30, 2025, 12:41:20 PM
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This reminds me of CZ's debate with Peter Schiff, who defended gold as a real asset. CZ argued that all forms of money and assets, both digital and physical, depend on human trust as a store of value and medium of exchange. During the debate, CZ even showed Peter Schiff a gold bar and asked if it was real or fake. Even an economist and gold supporter couldn't immediately tell the difference.

All value, regardless of value, depends on trust, including money and other things. Ultimately, the Bitcoin system is the same, but trust in Bitcoin is growing. As for gold, it's been around longer, so I think it's natural. One day, Bitcoin will replace it, or this technology will become obsolete, I don't understand the details. The future is a mystery, but Bitcoin's growth is positive.

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December 30, 2025, 03:08:57 PM
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Although I am inclined to agree that bitcoin is flawless in terms authenticity but the one problem that I have with bitcoin is that it is volatile and you do not want your emergency to be having more problems if you really to pull out money from your investments to supplement your emergency fund, imagine if you really needed that money to spend on something immediately and your only source is your bitcoins and during that time, your portfolio is on the red and now you have no choice but to take the losses. For me, I believe that you should diversify, more than anything because that way, you would not have a problem losing all of your investments at once.

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December 30, 2025, 03:48:40 PM
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That's true that bitcoin cannot be faked and so gold is one of the many assets out there that has a lot of counterfeits. But if I am someone who's thinking to invest on it.

I'd simply go to the trusted pawnshops or gold shops where they've got the reputation and likely gives me the confidence that they won't have any fake gold.

Still, Bitcoin is the best choice with that. You just can't copy a genuine one of it and it's easier to determine how you can hold it.

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December 30, 2025, 03:50:35 PM
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That's true that bitcoin cannot be faked and so gold is one of the many assets out there that has a lot of counterfeits. But if I am someone who's thinking to invest on it.

I'd simply go to the trusted pawnshops or gold shops where they've got the reputation and likely gives me the confidence that they won't have any fake gold.

Still, Bitcoin is the best choice with that. You just can't copy a genuine one of it and it's easier to determine how you can hold it.

You can only be fooled like that if you are a newbie and buy any token on any chain called BTC, with little to no liquidity.

Then again, if you will make your due diligance, such a thing will never happen.

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I remember when my wife wanted to buy gold from one of the companies that was trending in my country, I forbade her and then transferred the money to bitcoin, I said "the gold from that company looks shady and may have been contaminate". A few years later we managed to build a house from the results of our bitcoin investment and made my wife believe in bitcoin more. Then the gold company I mentioned above is now closed because law enforcement arrested the owner for counterfeiting and imprisoned.
Gold is a valuable and profitable investment if you keep the assurance that what you are buying is a legit, authentic gold. But if you end up buying from a fake supplier that sells fake gold, that will definitely make your money go into waste.

Unlike with bitcoin, you can't touch it physically but you know its always legit, just be wary on who you are transacting with because scams are also common in crypto. But if you are knowledgeable and wise enough, then you can't be fooled easily by those too good to be true transactions that definitely fall as scams.

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In reference to the title:  Bitcoin is the only asset everyone needs,  I somehow disagree, Bitcoin is not the only asset that appreciates, there are lots of assets outside Bitcoin that can give a good return in the long run.  Putting your egg in one basket is somehow risky.  There are lots of what-ifs that can lead us to financial bankruptcy if we put our money solely to one investment.

At the historical development of Bitcoin, I agree that it is performing great if we zoom out the chart, but if we zoom in, there are instances where investors are forced to sell at a loss since Bitcoin is highly volatile, and we never know when we will need money for an emergency.  What if it emergency times to the bear market where Bitcoin price is dumping?  So it is always better to have other investment, or assets to sell in this kind of situation.

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Bitcoin can be faked, but due to its nature, fake BTC can be easily detected and identified.  There are lots of fake BTC circulating in the market. Just look at the coinmarketcap and coingecko, you can see them.

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December 30, 2025, 05:57:47 PM
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That's true that bitcoin cannot be faked and so gold is one of the many assets out there that has a lot of counterfeits. But if I am someone who's thinking to invest on it.

I'd simply go to the trusted pawnshops or gold shops where they've got the reputation and likely gives me the confidence that they won't have any fake gold.

Still, Bitcoin is the best choice with that. You just can't copy a genuine one of it and it's easier to determine how you can hold it.

You can only be fooled like that if you are a newbie and buy any token on any chain called BTC, with little to no liquidity.

Then again, if you will make your due diligance, such a thing will never happen.
Yeah, those wrapped bitcoins.

If someone is trying to fool other newbies about buying bitcoin but it's on a different chain or network, that's an altcoin and it cannot be the real bitcoin.

The value of it is pegged with bitcoin but there is a huge chance that it can be de-peg and lose its value so be mindful with that.

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It is natural for professionals to doubt the authenticity of gold, so they have a new job to check its authenticity, and doubts about the authenticity of gold can increase awareness of fraud committed by irresponsible parties. Manipulation of gold can be structured. When comparing Bitcoin with gold in terms of authenticity, Bitcoin is not a physical asset like gold, so it cannot be counterfeited.

The purchase of pure gold in the form of jewelry that I did manually has a purity of 99%, and I am confident that its authenticity is beyond doubt. Even though the price has increased significantly, people's interest in buying it has not decreased.
I made the purchase to use it as part of my reserve fund, which I can sell whenever I need it without affecting my Bitcoin.

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December 30, 2025, 06:03:16 PM
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First, I strongly disagree with the title.

I am indifferent towards gold, but stocks are a type of asset which makes perfect sense. Stocks are directly tied to the real economy, they help to finance -- and benefit from -- the production of real good and services which satisfy human needs. And while they can behave in a "bubblish" way, i.e. getting overvalued, this typically happens only to some stocks or categories of stocks, and most are more or less trading at their "fair" value.

Stocks will also be around in one or the other way forever, at least in a market economy. It's simply a way to describe property rights on productive means.

This is also a reason why I think Bitcoin will only be able to "capture" a small part of the stock market, mostly the "monetary premium" which goes into stocks when they experience bubbles. For example, in a world with higher Bitcoin market share, the AI bubble wouldn't have inflated the way it did, and much less the even more insane internet/tech stock bubble in the late 90s.

Bitcoin remains the only asset completely safe from counterfeiting.
Also here, it's not the only one. Can real estate be counterfeited? Perhaps derivatives, but they're not "the real deal". Commodities like oil, soybeans etc. are also practically impossible to "counterfeit".

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December 30, 2025, 06:05:29 PM
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That's why gold with serial no. exists, there are many institutions that sell gold with instant authentication because when you bought it, there's a code that's a proof it came from them. Ofc why would you buy a gold from a random pawnshop? at first you'll doubt their legitimacy but if you're target is investment, then you should buy gold from institutions that offers 90%+ buyback and with serial. There are bunch of gold out there that is fake but it's not a major problem for gold because fake exists decade already so it's not a NEW problem, so let's not downplay gold just because of fakes are hard to be determined nowadays.

Also, there are bunch of ways to verify it, if you will sell it, of course verifying it by breaking is one of the option, I think it's the last options for identifying the authenticity so there's nothing to worry about.

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December 30, 2025, 06:15:08 PM
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Although I am inclined to agree that bitcoin is flawless in terms authenticity but the one problem that I have with bitcoin is that it is volatile and you do not want your emergency to be having more problems if you really to pull out money from your investments to supplement your emergency fund, imagine if you really needed that money to spend on something immediately and your only source is your bitcoins and during that time, your portfolio is on the red and now you have no choice but to take the losses. For me, I believe that you should diversify, more than anything because that way, you would not have a problem losing all of your investments at once.
Bitcoin volatility shouldn't be a problem if you are investing with the appropriate funds(leftover money) and with long term mindset.  And If You don’t want an emergency situation to become worse because you have to withdraw money from your investments at the wrong time, then get other sources of income, and only invest in bitcoin with the money you won't be needed anytime soon, and also ensure to build your emergency fund and back up fund to be more solid, because those funds are the funds that will help you in the Rainy days.
making your Bitcoin portfolio your only source of income is a very wrong thing to do, because your Bitcoin portfolio is not your source of income, it is an investment and you shouldn't be in a hurry to take profit, you allow your portfolio to mature, if possible hold for dear life.

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December 30, 2025, 06:40:01 PM
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I don't agree with the title of your thread at all, yes, bitcoin is solid investment but it doesn't mean other assets like gold are not worth investing on.

If you carry out proper check before purchasing gold I don't think you will have this issue of buying counterfeit, beside if you are scared of buying physical gold you can always opt for gold ETFs which moves in same price with physical gold.
I agree with you, because although it is true that Bitcoin is the most verifiable, counterfeit-resistant, and neutral asset that exists, it is not necessarily the only asset that everyone needs. All people have different needs, and economic, legal, and cultural contexts are not the same for everyone. Gold, for example, has industrial uses, has a monetary history, and has a cultural acceptance that does not depend on electricity or digital infrastructure.

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