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Today at 06:09:44 AM
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This is like saying that once you are a rich person you don't need to work for money anymore, but in reality if you are a billionaire you will stay billionaire with your nonstop income stream, no rich person will ever say no to extra, and also no amount of money will ever be enough for rich people.

Casinos are mostly profitable, it's one of the most lucrative business I know and selling shares isn't a bad idea, it brings more money anyways, there is no business that's too big for shares, there are too many examples of giant companies around the world that has shares, they made insane amount of money every week yet there shares are out there floating. I will accept that shares is a choice, for casinos but big and small it doesn't make a difference.
And what is so extra about them giving a share of their huge pie?

Big casinos make BILLIONS of dollars. So you think they should "sell shares" where small investors gives them money they don't need (because they already have billions) so they share a part of the profit that they could keep for themselves? Besides all the legal hassle which is a nightmare. Tongue

When you say companies around the world have shares, you're talking about public companies. You should probably read more about it: https://investingbrokers.com/why-do-companies-go-public/

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Today at 06:10:26 AM
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If casinos are so profitable, why would they sell shares? Wouldn't it be better to keep all the profit from themselves? Smiley
What I want to post can be wrong, what I understood about the reason there is no more bankroll investment from the gambling industry is because of possible regulations. Just like I have said, maybe this is not right but I read about it.

Another thing is that bankroll investment can be for gambling sites that are just coming, a means to raise fund to develop the site. Gambling sites nowadays prefer to have the money to make the gambling site working before advertising the gambling site.

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Today at 06:20:51 AM
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While owning shares in well run gambling companies can indeed be profitable, promoting share sales on forums like this raises serious concerns around regulation, transparency, investor protection, and conflicts of interest, which is why reputable operators usually stick to licensed markets and formal investment channels rather than informal community platforms.

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Today at 06:22:53 AM
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I have never checked whether gambling companies that enter the stock market have good performance. If it's good enough and more profitable than other stocks, it will definitely attract the attention of stock investors. 
The casino business is certainly profitable, but that doesn't necessarily reflect its stock performance in the market. 
I think there are still quite a lot of illegal gambling sites that are accessed by many people, especially those operating with fiat in countries that prohibit gambling. Running such a business might be more profitable than trying to legally enter the stock market.

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Today at 07:13:52 AM
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Your title made it look like you were saying placing bets was an investment but then your writeup cleared that misunderstanding, the truth is that if it wasn't a profitable business then nobody would do it, running a casino isn't easy work, physical or online but there are so many casinos out there solely because they have seen the profits that can be made from it and it exceeds any risk that might be attached to it and if there is an opportunity to buy shares then people definitely will buy, no one want to miss out on a good investment after all.

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Today at 07:35:41 AM
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First of all, not because you invest does it means you guarantee profit. There's a lot of gambling sites out there and also here in the forum where they offer an investment to their bankroll, of course the profit of it depends on the platform's profit but just like what I've said, it's not fixed and there will be a time that some user might win jackpot and of course it might take some time for the bankroll to have a profit. The one you talk about is more on the usual gambling sites and I'm not really sure how to invest on those or buy those shares.

I think some gambling sites here doesn't sell share but rather their own tokens such as Betfury's BFG, Rollbit's RLB. Also there's Bustabits investment to their bankroll too, so there's a lot of companies here that lets anyone invest on their platform not directly in shares but in coins or in their bankroll.

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Today at 07:45:33 AM
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I have never checked whether gambling companies that enter the stock market have good performance. If it's good enough and more profitable than other stocks, it will definitely attract the attention of stock investors.  
The casino business is certainly profitable, but that doesn't necessarily reflect its stock performance in the market.  
I think there are still quite a lot of illegal gambling sites that are accessed by many people, especially those operating with fiat in countries that prohibit gambling. Running such a business might be more profitable than trying to legally enter the stock market.
Adhering to tough regulations imposes high operating expenses on the balance sheets of the publicly traded companies and lowers the net profit margins. The illegal sites have a negative competitive advantage in that they do not pay taxes and licencing fees, which strangle the cash flow.

I see that the crypto investors want consistent growth with the cushion of legal immunity against prosecution, whereas black market players want as high profits as possible at will assuming that their businesses may be wound down any time. The two are not to be compared, since their business models are on the very different ends of risk rates.


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Today at 08:01:59 AM
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Gambling is not investment. You invest in casino by buying shares if they offers this to their members. You can be their investors and get sharing profit from them. But I do not know those casinos that have investment program. Once I invested Bitcoin in the Yolodice casino in the past which gave me a decent profit. I don't know about Bustadice and I don't tried it. They have a minimum investment of ₿ 0.01.
I totally agree with you that gambling can never be an investment because an investment is when an investors invest on something or assets then expect a good return in a long term, so looking at the how gambling do work and if you want to compare or analyze if eventually a gambling is an investment, and i know that in merely looking of seeing that gambling is an investment, you will not disagree because the both involved putting in money but it is very understandable that gambling you can't invest in a long term while investing you allow it to be accumulating in a longer term for more profit.

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Today at 08:03:52 AM
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I have never experienced buying shares or contributing to a casino with the flow of capital that must be invested in the casino, I missed many opportunities, there is nothing interesting for me here even though it is so profitable for them, the casino is risky and I prefer other companies to invest in that can provide good returns and are also safer, the casino I see it is not safe as an investment place if the management data and prospects are not open transparent, he is an alternative place to play, I prefer it like that for here.


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Today at 08:41:15 AM
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Using gambling stock as investment is good, but this is totally depend on what kind of company you invested your money. Based on gambling stock all time chart, it gives us sexy ROI. However, it must be noted it's unnecessary for any gambling platform to launch publicly as long as they're still consistently generating profit. Sometimes, gambling company also used IPO or any kind of public offering to find exit liquidity.

I think some gambling sites here doesn't sell share but rather their own tokens such as Betfury's BFG, Rollbit's RLB. Also there's Bustabits investment to their bankroll too, so there's a lot of companies here that lets anyone invest on their platform not directly in shares but in coins or in their bankroll.
It's true. The problem is investing in bankroll or token issued by the company was often lacking of regulation protection. For me, i won't take it. I'll prefer to put it on gambling company stock, which have robust regulation and the underlying asset owned by the company is also clear.

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Today at 08:58:01 AM
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Before, there were gambling companies here in the forum that offered investment in exchange for giving a portion of the total profit of the online casino. Yolodice is one good example of that.

In my opinion, this is not something they can just offer directly to users or gamblers, which is why it's very rare for a gambling company to do it. Is it really the time for them to offer it now? Why? They are making good profits using the house edge. I don't think they need more investors, and they can probably stand alone by now. They don't need to sell shares, especially if it's not needed and the owner is so rich that he can manage it all.
This is one of the reasons why there are so many gambling sites coming out, and that's because they know there's money in it, and they don't need to share.

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Today at 09:11:08 AM
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Bro, people are buying shares in gambling companies, you are not aware because you dont have the money to buy one.
Shares listing cannot be done in the forum, irrespective of its reputation. If you want to buy shares, reach out to the team, and they will book a schedule for live section talks and tell you if any shares are available. Maybe you dont know that most casinos are not owned or operated by one person. It is owned by different people who have shares in the company.

You are very correct with your assertions, buying shares in a gambling company is truly an investment because you are owning part of a business and.earning from its operations over time, gambling itself is not an investment but a risk based activity where the outcomes are uncertain and mostly favours the house and also the fact that casinos are not owned by a single person but multiple shareholders have also further proves the point.

The owners and the shareholders are the ones that makes money consistently while the gamblers are the ones taking repeated losses. So it all depends on where you want to belong, whether as an investor or as a user?

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Today at 09:30:36 AM
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And I think it's high time reputable gambling companies should start announcing sells of their shares here too so interested members can buy.

Well, it was a thing years ago, but now casino tokens are in trend. It's far from buying shares, but you can earn a share of the profit that the casino makes if you hold some tokens. Some casinos offer the option to buy or sell their tokens, but in others, you will need to wager to obtain them.

When it comes to fiat casinos, the situation is different. Like some other stocks, casino stocks can be pretty volatile... As always, do your homework before investing. It's a long story, but you can start by looking at reports, industry trends, regulations, and expectations...

 
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Today at 09:31:57 AM
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Several things have already been said, such as that you can invest in casino bankrolls or company shares. But I wanted to focus on this.

Is it that it's very easy to run it?

Well, no, there is no business that is easy to run. Here is a list of gambling companies that went bankrupt:

List of defunct gambling companies

If it were that easy, you could create one yourself. Maybe you don't have the money, but let's assume you do. The main problem is that you're entering a very competitive space, and to get started, you'd have to make a significant initial investment that would take a long time to recoup. Then, you'd have to gain a significant market share, and that goes far beyond the advantage given to you by the house edge. I could go on and on, but the bottom line is that it's much more difficult than you think.

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Today at 09:42:17 AM
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Yes, in the past there are many gambling platforms that offered some kind of investment on them. But now it's no longer offered, and it's obvious that it was not a successful venture. And there were some who offered their own tokens too, but that kind of business model didn't work at all. So maybe we can conclude that gambling cannot be seen as a good investment for us. It's the business of making money and not giving others some part of it. So as I have said, it will not work long term. Not sure if we talk about land base or traditional brick and mortar, maybe they have this kind of offering. But the people behind this casinos are big corporations so maybe they can go with it without any problems as they have a lot of money.

 
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Today at 09:54:55 AM
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It surprise me that I have not seen a Casino coming to this forum after building reputation in this forum to sell shares. Is it that it's very easy to run it?

Online Casino doesn’t offer security token(shares) because it needs a legal framework in able to offer rather they are using utility token to offer investment for their casino.

Casino like Betfury, Rollbit, Blackjack.fun(Rollhub) and many more do this method to offer investment opportunities to players.

However, most of the casino that owned by private companies doesn’t offer public investment since they already have enough funds to run the casino.

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Today at 09:59:13 AM
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Gambling can never be na investment and it is only the gambling company can be an investment therefore I advise you to change your subject or topic to "Gambling Company is An Investment". If there is funds, it is good to becomes a shareholders in a Gambling Company, but it must be a trusted gambling company and not the once just came up to the forum and looking for affiliated individuals. Be careful in the internet.

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Today at 10:02:53 AM
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Gambling is actually an investment, those that have gambling companies has a very good investment and you can partake in that by also buying shares especially when the company is coming up because it will be sold in cheaper price.
It surprise me that I have not seen a Casino coming to this forum after building reputation in this forum to sell shares. Is it that it's very easy to run it? Well that's not it, gambling companies are not easy to run I feel people are usually not interested in buying shares in gambling companies because of fear of it not making it or because some casinos are not a standard company that someone can access physically and again a lot of gambling company are not public companies they are private, but you can buy shares in a private casino company, but only under special conditions.
Private companies do not sell shares to the general public like public companies do, private companies do it more in a private way with their own conditions.
But I tell you today having shares in a gambling company is a very good investment.
And I think it's high time reputable gambling companies should start announcing sells of their shares here too so interested members can buy.



Your title said a different thing while your man article is saying entirely different thing from the title. When I first saw the title I was thinking you are referring gambling itself, that is gambling is a investment where gamblers can play to get more return only for me to find out that you are talking about buying shares from casinos and gambling companies or sites. Perhaps you should change your title to something like "Buying shares in casinos or betting companies are profitable" at least it will relate better to what you are saying in the article.











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Today at 10:08:50 AM
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But I tell you today having shares in a gambling company is a very good investment.
And I think it's high time reputable gambling companies should start announcing sells of their shares here too so interested members can buy.



If online casinos decide to sell shares, it becomes a securities transaction, and they would be subject to new regulations that vary by the jurisdiction where they are licensed to operate. It's a lot of hassle to manage these requirements.
The closest an online casino comes to selling part of its company is by issuing its own token, which is subject to market volatility. BFG does this with their BFG token.
An online casino can sustain its operation through its own profit; it is sure to make money if it has the expertise to operate its platform



 
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Today at 11:09:27 AM
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OP, your choice of topic sounds misleading cause I don't see anything or reason why gambling is an investment for gamblers, it's only a business or an investment for casino owners and the bookies but for gamblers, it's never an investment because the bookies and casinos owners have more edge thereby leaving customers with a high risk of losing their money. Maybe you should've said that buying shares from gambling companies could serve as an investment which is fair enough.

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