[ANN] LUMENYX - 21M Supply, ZK-SNARKs Privacy, No Team

[pacca]

You're right about one thing: if we don't modify params, X9 works on day one.

But here's the trade-off:

Increase RAM requirement = exclude legitimate users with older hardware.
We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines.

The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?

By the time LUMENYX is valuable enough for ASIC investment,
initial distribution is already done.

Modifying RandomX to exclude ASIC = also excluding real users.
We choose inclusion over exclusion.

If you have a better solution that doesn't exclude low-RAM users,
we're listening.

- missed2009

[subdev]

You're right about one thing: if we don't modify params, X9 works on day one.

But here's the trade-off:

Increase RAM requirement = exclude legitimate users with older hardware.
We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines.

The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?

By the time LUMENYX is valuable enough for ASIC investment,
initial distribution is already done.

Modifying RandomX to exclude ASIC = also excluding real users.
We choose inclusion over exclusion.

If you have a better solution that doesn't exclude low-RAM users,
we're listening.

- missed2009

we are leaving in 2026.
8GB/16GB laptop to mine is normal in 2026

We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines. - this is common argument to defend not changing RandomX and let Bitmain XMR dominate the network.

I may aready have 29 Bitmain XMR asics in my basement ready to jump on LUMENYX any time and give any one very small chance to find any block.





The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?
^^^^^
how does it sound?

-trust me bro!
-mine with CPU
-i do not have bitmain X9 miner.
-trust me bro!
-spend your time mining on CPU
-trust me bro i do not have bitmain XMR miner at the basement.

[pacca]

You're right about 2026 - 8GB/16GB is standard today.

But let's be clear:
- X9 ships July 2026 (it's futures, doesn't exist yet)
- You can't have 29 X9s in your basement - they haven't been manufactured

That said: if community wants 8GB minimum RAM,
we can consider it.

What specific parameters do you suggest?
Concrete proposals welcome.

- missed2009

[subdev]

The Bitmain Antminer X5 (XMR Miner) was officially launched and released in September 2023, marking Bitmain's first ASIC miner specifically designed for Monero (XMR) mining, using RISC-V architecture for high energy efficiency.

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020231023114009392Wa6C3QuD0658

[pacca]

You're right about the X5.

In your first message (#38) you linked the X9 (July 2026).
We responded to that.
Now you bring up the X5 - useful information we hadn't considered.

This changes everything, but not how you think.

If X5 exists since 2023 and costs $2,099:
- RandomX is NOT CPU-only anymore, hasn't been for 2 years
- X5 owners already dominate Monero
- Implementing RandomX = giving advantage to those who already own X5

Blake3 with GPU:
- GPUs are consumer hardware
- Millions of people own one
- More accessible than a $2,099 ASIC that's sold out

No chain will ever be perfect. Not Bitcoin, not Ethereum, not Monero.
We don't promise perfection. We promise transparency.
This public discussion proves it.

Final decision: Blake3.
Not because it's perfect, but because it's more accessible.

The code is open. Anyone can fork and add modified RandomX.
That's true decentralization.

Thanks for pushing back. Discussions like this make the project better.

- missed2009

[subdev]

You're right about the X5.

In your first message (#38) you linked the X9 (July 2026).
We responded to that.
Now you bring up the X5 - useful information we hadn't considered.

This changes everything, but not how you think.

If X5 exists since 2023 and costs $2,099:
- RandomX is NOT CPU-only anymore, hasn't been for 2 years
- X5 owners already dominate Monero
- Implementing RandomX = giving advantage to those who already own X5

Blake3 with GPU:
- GPUs are consumer hardware
- Millions of people own one
- More accessible than a $2,099 ASIC that's sold out

No chain will ever be perfect. Not Bitcoin, not Ethereum, not Monero.
We don't promise perfection. We promise transparency.
This public discussion proves it.

Final decision: Blake3.
Not because it's perfect, but because it's more accessible.

The code is open. Anyone can fork and add modified RandomX.
That's true decentralization.

Thanks for pushing back. Discussions like this make the project better.

- missed2009

I personally would like to see RandomX instead of Blake

RANDOMX_DATASET_BASE_SIZE = 4294967296 (4 GiB, max)

RANDOMX_DATASET_EXTRA_SIZE = 16777216 (16 MiB) (or keep default 33554368)

RANDOMX_ARGON_MEMORY = 524288 (KiB) (512 MiB)

RANDOMX_ARGON_ITERATIONS = 4

RANDOMX_CACHE_ACCESSES = 12 (or 16)

[subdev]

do not go with a blake3, another gpu/asic ethereum like coin.

going with RandomX you at least invite true crypto ppl from monero and CPU.
Plus GPU in current age of AI is not a good idea at all.

Please go with RandomX!!!

[pacca]

We're reading everything and taking notes.

Your information about Blake3 ASICs (AL1, AL3, AL BOX III) is valuable. We weren't aware of the existing Blake3 hashpower ecosystem.

It's refreshing to have someone informed and open to real dialogue. This is exactly how open source projects should evolve.

We're taking time to do proper research before making the final decision. RandomX with modified parameters is seriously on the table.

More updates soon.

- missed2009

[subdev]

We're reading everything and taking notes.

Your information about Blake3 ASICs (AL1, AL3, AL BOX III) is valuable. We weren't aware of the existing Blake3 hashpower ecosystem.

It's refreshing to have someone informed and open to real dialogue. This is exactly how open source projects should evolve.

We're taking time to do proper research before making the final decision. RandomX with modified parameters is seriously on the table.

More updates soon.

- missed2009

Look.
Here is the argument to with with a RandomX.

M3 Pro (12 cores): ~3,300–4,150 H/s

M3 Max (16 cores): ~7,100–7,580 H/s

Bitmain X5 200KH/s

Bitmain X9 1000KH/s

Bitmain X5 is only around 25   M3 Max laptops
Bitmain X9 is only around 138 M3 Max laptops

RandomX is still CPU and it really gives more decentralisation comparing to other algos like Blake3, Equihash, and others.

Going with GPU in 2026 and massive AI trend is very dangerous road.

There is not other best option of decentralisation in 2026

On top of it having Bitmain X5/X9 it is not like just click and join mining, it still need the pools.

Going with RandomX - LUMENYX really will be the unique project in the crowded space of EVM, privacy and PoW.
RandomX and LUMENYX ends with X. so a very small hint on the algo)

P.S. let the newbie to message you on bitcoin talk. ping me. (Personal Message settings in profile)

[pacca]

Good analysis on the X5/M3 comparison.

You're right - RandomX is still more decentralized than GPU algorithms.

We've been doing deep research this afternoon. Here's what we found:

The X5 uses RISC-V architecture (SG2042 chips) with ~8GB DDR4 per SoC.
Simply increasing memory parameters won't stop it.

Our solution: RX-LX (RandomX-LUMENYX)
- Fork of RandomX with modified VM
- New opcodes requiring AES-NI and PCLMUL (x86 only)
- SBOX remapping that invalidates existing X5 firmware
- Pointer chasing that penalizes RISC-V memory architecture

Result: X5 firmware produces invalid hashes. Day-1 CPU fairness.

We're implementing this now. More technical details coming soon.

Thanks for pushing us in the right direction.

P.S. Just enabled private messages for all users. Feel free to DM me.

- missed2009

[subdev]

I do not see the privacy zk pallets or anything related to this.
What the plan and what happened?