[ANN] LUMENYX - 21M Supply, ZK-SNARKs Privacy, No Team

[pacca]

You're right about one thing: if we don't modify params, X9 works on day one.

But here's the trade-off:

Increase RAM requirement = exclude legitimate users with older hardware.
We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines.

The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?

By the time LUMENYX is valuable enough for ASIC investment,
initial distribution is already done.

Modifying RandomX to exclude ASIC = also excluding real users.
We choose inclusion over exclusion.

If you have a better solution that doesn't exclude low-RAM users,
we're listening.

- missed2009

[subdev]

You're right about one thing: if we don't modify params, X9 works on day one.

But here's the trade-off:

Increase RAM requirement = exclude legitimate users with older hardware.
We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines.

The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?

By the time LUMENYX is valuable enough for ASIC investment,
initial distribution is already done.

Modifying RandomX to exclude ASIC = also excluding real users.
We choose inclusion over exclusion.

If you have a better solution that doesn't exclude low-RAM users,
we're listening.

- missed2009

we are leaving in 2026.
8GB/16GB laptop to mine is normal in 2026

We want the guy with 4GB laptop to mine, not just people with 16GB+ machines. - this is common argument to defend not changing RandomX and let Bitmain XMR dominate the network.

I may aready have 29 Bitmain XMR asics in my basement ready to jump on LUMENYX any time and give any one very small chance to find any block.





The X9 costs $5,600 and ships July 2026.
Who buys that for a coin worth zero at launch?
^^^^^
how does it sound?

-trust me bro!
-mine with CPU
-i do not have bitmain X9 miner.
-trust me bro!
-spend your time mining on CPU
-trust me bro i do not have bitmain XMR miner at the basement.

[pacca]

You're right about 2026 - 8GB/16GB is standard today.

But let's be clear:
- X9 ships July 2026 (it's futures, doesn't exist yet)
- You can't have 29 X9s in your basement - they haven't been manufactured

That said: if community wants 8GB minimum RAM,
we can consider it.

What specific parameters do you suggest?
Concrete proposals welcome.

- missed2009

[subdev]

The Bitmain Antminer X5 (XMR Miner) was officially launched and released in September 2023, marking Bitmain's first ASIC miner specifically designed for Monero (XMR) mining, using RISC-V architecture for high energy efficiency.

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020231023114009392Wa6C3QuD0658

[pacca]

You're right about the X5.

In your first message (#38) you linked the X9 (July 2026).
We responded to that.
Now you bring up the X5 - useful information we hadn't considered.

This changes everything, but not how you think.

If X5 exists since 2023 and costs $2,099:
- RandomX is NOT CPU-only anymore, hasn't been for 2 years
- X5 owners already dominate Monero
- Implementing RandomX = giving advantage to those who already own X5

Blake3 with GPU:
- GPUs are consumer hardware
- Millions of people own one
- More accessible than a $2,099 ASIC that's sold out

No chain will ever be perfect. Not Bitcoin, not Ethereum, not Monero.
We don't promise perfection. We promise transparency.
This public discussion proves it.

Final decision: Blake3.
Not because it's perfect, but because it's more accessible.

The code is open. Anyone can fork and add modified RandomX.
That's true decentralization.

Thanks for pushing back. Discussions like this make the project better.

- missed2009

[subdev]

You're right about the X5.

In your first message (#38) you linked the X9 (July 2026).
We responded to that.
Now you bring up the X5 - useful information we hadn't considered.

This changes everything, but not how you think.

If X5 exists since 2023 and costs $2,099:
- RandomX is NOT CPU-only anymore, hasn't been for 2 years
- X5 owners already dominate Monero
- Implementing RandomX = giving advantage to those who already own X5

Blake3 with GPU:
- GPUs are consumer hardware
- Millions of people own one
- More accessible than a $2,099 ASIC that's sold out

No chain will ever be perfect. Not Bitcoin, not Ethereum, not Monero.
We don't promise perfection. We promise transparency.
This public discussion proves it.

Final decision: Blake3.
Not because it's perfect, but because it's more accessible.

The code is open. Anyone can fork and add modified RandomX.
That's true decentralization.

Thanks for pushing back. Discussions like this make the project better.

- missed2009

I personally would like to see RandomX instead of Blake

RANDOMX_DATASET_BASE_SIZE = 4294967296 (4 GiB, max)

RANDOMX_DATASET_EXTRA_SIZE = 16777216 (16 MiB) (or keep default 33554368)

RANDOMX_ARGON_MEMORY = 524288 (KiB) (512 MiB)

RANDOMX_ARGON_ITERATIONS = 4

RANDOMX_CACHE_ACCESSES = 12 (or 16)

[subdev]

do not go with a blake3, another gpu/asic ethereum like coin.

going with RandomX you at least invite true crypto ppl from monero and CPU.
Plus GPU in current age of AI is not a good idea at all.

Please go with RandomX!!!

[pacca]

We're reading everything and taking notes.

Your information about Blake3 ASICs (AL1, AL3, AL BOX III) is valuable. We weren't aware of the existing Blake3 hashpower ecosystem.

It's refreshing to have someone informed and open to real dialogue. This is exactly how open source projects should evolve.

We're taking time to do proper research before making the final decision. RandomX with modified parameters is seriously on the table.

More updates soon.

- missed2009

[subdev]

We're reading everything and taking notes.

Your information about Blake3 ASICs (AL1, AL3, AL BOX III) is valuable. We weren't aware of the existing Blake3 hashpower ecosystem.

It's refreshing to have someone informed and open to real dialogue. This is exactly how open source projects should evolve.

We're taking time to do proper research before making the final decision. RandomX with modified parameters is seriously on the table.

More updates soon.

- missed2009

Look.
Here is the argument to with with a RandomX.

M3 Pro (12 cores): ~3,300–4,150 H/s

M3 Max (16 cores): ~7,100–7,580 H/s

Bitmain X5 200KH/s

Bitmain X9 1000KH/s

Bitmain X5 is only around 25   M3 Max laptops
Bitmain X9 is only around 138 M3 Max laptops

RandomX is still CPU and it really gives more decentralisation comparing to other algos like Blake3, Equihash, and others.

Going with GPU in 2026 and massive AI trend is very dangerous road.

There is not other best option of decentralisation in 2026

On top of it having Bitmain X5/X9 it is not like just click and join mining, it still need the pools.

Going with RandomX - LUMENYX really will be the unique project in the crowded space of EVM, privacy and PoW.
RandomX and LUMENYX ends with X. so a very small hint on the algo)

P.S. let the newbie to message you on bitcoin talk. ping me. (Personal Message settings in profile)

[pacca]

Good analysis on the X5/M3 comparison.

You're right - RandomX is still more decentralized than GPU algorithms.

We've been doing deep research this afternoon. Here's what we found:

The X5 uses RISC-V architecture (SG2042 chips) with ~8GB DDR4 per SoC.
Simply increasing memory parameters won't stop it.

Our solution: RX-LX (RandomX-LUMENYX)
- Fork of RandomX with modified VM
- New opcodes requiring AES-NI and PCLMUL (x86 only)
- SBOX remapping that invalidates existing X5 firmware
- Pointer chasing that penalizes RISC-V memory architecture

Result: X5 firmware produces invalid hashes. Day-1 CPU fairness.

We're implementing this now. More technical details coming soon.

Thanks for pushing us in the right direction.

P.S. Just enabled private messages for all users. Feel free to DM me.

- missed2009

[subdev]

I do not see the privacy zk pallets or anything related to this.
What the plan and what happened?

[mandown]

when launch bro?

[pacca]

@subdev

Privacy is optional by design. Here's why:

**The Problem with Mandatory Privacy:**

February 2025: Binance delisted Monero, Zcash, Dash from EU/US platforms.
Kraken, Poloniex, Japan, South Korea, Australia followed.

Privacy coins with mandatory privacy = cannot be listed on Tier 1 exchanges.
They cannot reach mainstream adoption. Slowly being isolated.

**The LUMENYX Solution:**

Privacy is a layer on top, not forced on everyone.

- Base layer is transparent (like Bitcoin, like Ethereum)
- Anyone can build privacy solutions on top (mixers, ZK protocols, Tornado Cash style)
- Users choose privacy when they need it
- Chain can be listed everywhere - Binance, Coinbase, Kraken, all of them

**Result:** Maximum adoption potential + privacy for those who want it.

Read more: https://github.com/lumenyx-chain/lumenyx/blob/main/docs/WHY_LUMENYX.md

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@mandown

Thanks for your patience. You've been trying since day one and reporting every issue - that's exactly what helps make this better.

RX-LX is integrated, mining works, nodes connect. Current blocker: block sync between nodes fails after a few seconds. Debugging now.

When sync is fixed = launch. You'll be the first to know.

No fake dates. No hype. Just code.

- missed2009

[safebase]

The source code is far too short for a real blockchain. I skimmed through some of the node code. Where's the networking? Where are swarms created? Where are the data types exchanged? Where's the synchronization? Where are forks resolved?

[pacca]

@safebase
LUMENYX is built on Substrate, Polkadot's blockchain framework.
The "short code" you see is our custom logic:

RX-LX: Modified RandomX algorithm (ASIC-resistant)
ASERT difficulty: Bitcoin Cash-style adjustment
Bitcoin halving: 21M cap, emission stops at zero
EVM: Frontier integration for smart contracts

The networking, swarms, synchronization, fork resolution? All handled by Substrate's battle-tested libraries (sc-network, sc-consensus, libp2p). Check the Cargo.toml - you'll see sp-*, sc-*, frame-* dependencies.
Same principle as Bitcoin Core using LevelDB and OpenSSL, or Ethereum using devp2p. You don't rewrite TCP/IP for every project.
We appreciate your criticism. As you can see from this thread, we listened to community feedback: tokenomics changed, RandomX instead of Blake3, modified parameters. This is what a truly decentralized project does.
LUMENYX has no owners. LUMENYX belongs to those who make it theirs.
The code is open. Launch is imminent - we're completing final verifications.

missed2009

[RavexCoin]

looks good project

[pacca]

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LUMENYX - FINAL UPDATE BEFORE LAUNCH
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To everyone who followed this journey:

This thread documents something rare in crypto: a project built in public, shaped by community feedback, with complete transparency.

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THANK YOU

@subdev - You pushed us to be better:
- You criticized the Bootstrap/Early phases → We removed them (0.25 LMX/block from genesis)
- You suggested RandomX instead of Blake3 → We implemented it
- You warned about Bitmain X5/X9 ASICs → We created RX-LX to invalidate them
- You provided specific parameters → We listened

@mandown - Legendary patience:
- You tried from day one, reported every bug, never gave up
- Your persistence helped us find and fix critical issues
- You deserve to be among the first miners

This is what decentralization looks like. Not a team deciding in private. A community building in public.

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WHAT LUMENYX BECAME

The project evolved significantly based on your feedback:

| Original (Jan 1) | Now |
|------------------|-----|
| Proof of Stake with validators | Pure Proof of Work |
| GRANDPA finality | Longest chain (like Bitcoin) |
| ZK-SNARKs mandatory | Privacy optional (layer on top) |
| 3 second blocks | 2.5 second blocks |
| Blake3 / Standard PoW | RX-LX (custom RandomX, ASIC-resistant) |
| Bootstrap 2.4 LMX/block | 0.25 LMX/block from genesis |
| Multiple emission phases | Single phase with halving |

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LUMENYX NOW - THE FINAL VERSION

Core:
- Pure Proof of Work (CPU mining)
- 2.5 second blocks
- 21,000,000 fixed supply (like Bitcoin)
- EVM compatible (Solidity smart contracts)
- No team, no foundation, no admin keys

Mining (RX-LX):
- Modified RandomX algorithm
- ASIC-resistant (Bitmain X5/X9 produce invalid hashes)
- Anyone with a CPU can mine
- No stake required, no permission needed
- 1 GB RAM minimum (light mode, works on low-end VPS)
- 2-4 GB RAM recommended (full speed mining)

Emission:
- ~0.208 LUMENYX per block
- Halving every 4 years
- 50% mined in first 4 years
- 100% to miners (no burn)
- Emission stops at zero (like Bitcoin)

Smart Contracts:
- Full EVM compatibility
- Chain ID: 7777
- Deploy Solidity contracts without changes
- Build DEX, DeFi, NFTs, DAOs, anything

Distribution:
- Zero premine
- Zero ICO
- Zero team allocation
- Zero VC investors
- 100% through mining
- Everyone equal at block #0

Why Privacy Is Optional:
- Binance delisted Monero, Zcash, Dash in 2025
- Mandatory privacy = cannot list on major exchanges
- LUMENYX: transparent base layer, privacy built on top
- Result: can be listed everywhere + privacy for those who want it

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WHAT YOU CAN BUILD

The base layer is simple. What you build on top is limitless:
- Tokens (ERC-20)
- NFTs (ERC-721)
- DEX (Uniswap-style)
- Lending protocols
- DAOs
- Games
- Privacy layers (Tornado Cash style)
- Bridges to other chains
- Things that don't exist yet

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COMPARISON

| Feature | Bitcoin | Ethereum | LUMENYX |
|---------|---------|----------|---------|
| Fixed Supply | ✅ 21M | ❌ Infinite | ✅ 21M |
| Smart Contracts | ❌ No | ✅ Yes | ✅ Yes (EVM) |
| Block Time | 10 min | ~13 sec | 2.5 sec |
| Fair Launch | ✅ Yes | ❌ 72M premine | ✅ Yes |
| Consensus | PoW | PoS | PoW |
| Anyone Can Mine | ✅ Yes | ❌ Need stake | ✅ Yes |

LUMENYX = Bitcoin's scarcity + Ethereum's power + Speed

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LAUNCH STATUS

Final verifications in progress. Launch in days, very soon.

When ready:
- Exact date/time announced here
- Everyone prepares
- Block #0 = everyone equal

GitHub: https://github.com/lumenyx-chain/lumenyx
Read more: https://github.com/lumenyx-chain/lumenyx/blob/main/docs/WHY_LUMENYX.md

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REQUEST TO MODERATORS @mprep @Welsh

This thread title no longer reflects what LUMENYX is:

Current: [ANN] LUMENYX - 21M Supply, ZK-SNARKs Privacy, No Team

LUMENYX now:
- Is NOT ZK-SNARKs privacy (privacy is optional, not in base layer)
- IS Pure PoW with CPU mining
- IS EVM compatible
- IS ASIC-resistant (RX-LX)

Why we believe a new announcement would help:

GitHub traffic in the last 14 days shows real community interest:
- 745 clones (422 unique)
- 1,872 views (366 unique visitors)
- 970 visits from BitcoinTalk (205 unique)

People are watching. People are interested. But many may have dismissed the project based on the old title "ZK-SNARKs Privacy" which no longer applies.

This thread documents the entire development journey and community feedback. It has historical value.

Respectful request: When we launch, would it be possible to create a new [ANN] thread with accurate title?

Suggested: [ANN] LUMENYX - Pure PoW, CPU Mining, EVM Smart Contracts, 21M Supply, No Premine

We understand if this is not possible. We will respect your decision either way.

Thank you for moderating this section.

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"Bitcoin started with a headline. Ethereum started with a premine. LUMENYX starts with you."

The chain belongs to no one. It's yours.

- missed2009

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