Please view new users rationally and do not hold any kind of prejudice.

[esc1993]

First of all, I’m not posting this to start an argument, but to have a rational discussion about Bitcointalk. At some point, it seems that the only way people judge the authenticity of a project is by looking at the other party’s forum registration date. Is this really the correct standard? If it is, then I believe the market will inevitably give rise to many transactions involving the sale of old Bitcointalk accounts. In fact, you can already easily buy Bitcointalk accounts on some personal websites and use them to post. In that case, would everyone suddenly feel completely secure?

I feel that there is some discrimination against newcomers. May I ask, who is born as an old Bitcointalk member? Isn’t everyone accumulating experience over time? If you’ve been on the forum for one year, you make a post, and then a user who has been here for two years calls you a scammer, how would you feel? Why does there seem to be an invisible hierarchy now? Are we competing over who joined Bitcointalk earlier?

I do not deny that many bad actors use newly registered accounts to commit scams. However, as Bitcointalk members, I think we should rely more on logical reasoning and analyzing the other party’s motives, rather than directly judging someone based on their registration date. For example, if someone tells me that I can earn 1,000 USD a day just by clicking a mouse, I would report it immediately, regardless of whether the account is new or old. If something that good really existed, why wouldn’t he do it himself?

Let me give another example from my own experience. I am selling a P2P bot, and I once encountered a potential customer who was worried that my software might have issues. I said okay, then I’ll open-source it. Originally, I didn’t plan to open-source it, because open-sourcing means wider distribution, and generally speaking, non-professional P2P merchants don’t need my software. Only professional P2P merchants need it—they handle a large number of orders every day and have accounts with tens of thousands of USDT. But thinking from the user’s perspective, if it were me, I also wouldn’t feel comfortable buying software that wasn’t open-source. So in the end, I decided to open-source it.

However, he then made what I consider an absurd request. He asked: if my API does not grant withdrawal permissions and only grants spot trading permissions, what if you have malicious code that controls my API and sells my crypto assets through spot trading? (There are two flaws here.) First, what would my motive be? What benefit would I gain from doing this? Without any incentive, why would I do such a thing? It’s like going to KFC to order food when you’re not hungry. Second, the code is open-source—you can review it yourself, and if you don’t understand it, you can ask someone who does to review it. In that case, why would there still be a concern about spot trading issues?

Because of this, I realized that I can’t communicate effectively with people who don’t rely on logic and motivation. If you use logic and motivation as your basis, you can avoid many problems. Of course, this customer didn’t end up making a purchase, but I simply couldn’t change his way of thinking, haha.

So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way. My personal experiences have compelled me to write this long post on Bitcointalk.

[Fiatless]

So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way. My personal experiences have compelled me to write this long post on Bitcointalk.

Your observations would have been well presented if you had given one example of how you experienced discrimination. The example would have formed the foundations for discussion. Like you rightly pointed out, the Internet is filled with dishonest actors, so don't blame people who act suspiciously.

I have seen many newbies gradually build trust and reputation in this forum. Don't be discouraged by the response you get from some members. If your services are genuine and would contribute positively to the community, you will steadily gain the attention and support of some people.

[mindrust]

Newbie accounts can earn merits very fast if they show any signs of intelligence. If they act dumb, they’ll obviously leave a bad impression. There are many newbie accounts that earn merits and rank up in a matter of months. They don’t whine about discrimination. They don’t say legendaries were mean to me. They just post the good stuff, earn merits and rank up. If you want to be those people, you should follow the same strategy. Less whining, more good posting.

If you think you don’t have enough experience and knowledge to join the debates and conversations, you can always read more and learn mode, then you post.

[esc1993]

So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way. My personal experiences have compelled me to write this long post on Bitcointalk.

Your observations would have been well presented if you had given one example of how you experienced discrimination. The example would have formed the foundations for discussion. Like you rightly pointed out, the Internet is filled with dishonest actors, so don't blame people who act suspiciously.

I have seen many newbies gradually build trust and reputation in this forum. Don't be discouraged by the response you get from some members. If your services are genuine and would contribute positively to the community, you will steadily gain the attention and support of some people.

Yes, as a newcomer, I posted a thread before, but even after I provided a lot of evidence, many people kept irrationally repeating the same argument: “you’re a new account,” haha. It really drove me crazy. While browsing the forum, I also saw a post by a Nigerian user being attacked—the responses weren’t about disproving the content at all, but simply “you’re a newbie,” haha. Thank you for your encouragement, sir.

Newbie accounts can earn merits very fast if they show any signs of intelligence. If they act dumb, they’ll obviously leave a bad impression. There are many newbie accounts that earn merits and rank up in a matter of months. They don’t whine about discrimination. They don’t say legendaries were mean to me. They just post the good stuff, earn merits and rank up. If you want to be those people, you should follow the same strategy. Less whining, more good posting.

If you think you don’t have enough experience and knowledge to join the debates and conversations, you can always read more and learn mode, then you post.

Yes, because of a lack of experience, we may sometimes appear a bit foolish, haha. Please show more understanding toward new users. Thank you.

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[Stalker22]

Yes, as a newcomer, I posted a thread before, but even after I provided a lot of evidence, many people kept irrationally repeating the same argument: “you’re a new account,” haha. It really drove me crazy. While browsing the forum, I also saw a post by a Nigerian user being attacked—the responses weren’t about disproving the content at all, but simply “you’re a newbie,” haha. Thank you for your encouragement, sir.

The age of an account in this place is, typically, the sole determining factor in the fight against the numerous bots and scammers that bombard the forum on a daily basis.
Simply because you provide a lot of evidence does not mean that the evidence is worth anything or that your reasoning is sound. There have been countless examples of new accounts providing "proof" of fraudulent projects, and the veterans of this community have witnessed this more times than they can count.

[KingsDen]

I feel that there is some discrimination against newcomers. May I ask, who is born as an old Bitcointalk member? Isn’t everyone accumulating experience over time? If you’ve been on the forum for one year, you make a post, and then a user who has been here for two years calls you a scammer, how would you feel? Why does there seem to be an invisible hierarchy now? Are we competing over who joined Bitcointalk earlier?

It's like you are over thinking the whole thing...
Almost every genuine newbie at some point complain of the forum not being newbie friendly. Myself, I created a similar thread in my newbie days. But now, I have realised why things are so and or seems to be so;

• Reputation is built, and also trust. So, no newbie should expect an instant trust and reputation. Relax everything will fall in place.
• There are users who joined here more than a decade ago. They have known the pattern of malicious newbies, and they recognise this pattern immediately they see it. So, if you are misjudged, take time and prove yourself.
• Well, it is not out of place to assume every newbie offering services as a scammer until proven otherwise.
• It is not your fault that you are a newbie, you are just a victim of what has been in existence.

[Vod]

So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way. My personal experiences have compelled me to write this long post on Bitcointalk.

ESC1993:  I think Bitcoin users are the most superstitious people in the online world.
VOD:  We should be. Everybody wants what we have.  

Name the movie and age yourself a bit.

[nutildah]

First of all, I’m not posting this to start an argument, but to have a rational discussion about Bitcointalk. At some point, it seems that the only way people judge the authenticity of a project is by looking at the other party’s forum registration date. Is this really the correct standard?

No, it is not, for the reason described below:

If it is, then I believe the market will inevitably give rise to many transactions involving the sale of old Bitcointalk accounts. In fact, you can already easily buy Bitcointalk accounts on some personal websites and use them to post.

I feel that there is some discrimination against newcomers. May I ask, who is born as an old Bitcointalk member? Isn’t everyone accumulating experience over time?

People who buy their accounts didn't accumulate any experience, but rather pretend they did, and its easy to see when they are lying, because they are morons with limited knowledge about Bitcoin in spite of claiming to be here for a decade or longer.

If you’ve been on the forum for one year, you make a post, and then a user who has been here for two years calls you a scammer, how would you feel? Why does there seem to be an invisible hierarchy now? Are we competing over who joined Bitcointalk earlier?

If you know you're not a scammer then you should just ignore them.

directly judging someone based on their registration date.

You shouldn't ever do this knowing how easy it is to buy accounts. Obviously there is more to judge an account by than its age.

So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way.

After reading your story, now I understand where you're coming from, and yes, I do agree with the basic principles you are expressing. And you should understand that this forum is under constant bombardment by scammers, spammers and bots every day of the year; as such its sometimes difficult to maintain a positive mindset or have a welcoming attitude in this space.

[Kazkaz27]

There is a hierarchy that exists here. It’s pretty much ingrained into Bitcointalk.org’s infrastructure. The merit system and trust system really create that presence. Now that system itself is not all bad, but it certainly is not perfect. The forum itself does not exactly represent Bitcoin ethos because it is not a trustless system. It is run by people who are not perfect themselves. I think your post ties into this because this is the hierarchy you speak of. People here will attempt to discredit you rather than guide or help you at times because there is a power dynamic system here, which involves merit and trust.

[Pablo-wood]

I feel that there is some discrimination against newcomers. May I ask, who is born as an old Bitcointalk member? Isn’t everyone accumulating experience over time? If you’ve been on the forum for one year, you make a post, and then a user who has been here for two years calls you a scammer, how would you feel? Why does there seem to be an invisible hierarchy now? Are we competing over who joined Bitcointalk earlier?

It's not about competition mate, don't forget this a pseudonymous forum and we engage with each other based on reputation, experience, account strength and active participation in forum activities. You won't expect this treatment for a random newbie, if a newbie has a service to offer at least they should engage with posts for a while gain enough experience and popularity. It's not a game for showoffs it's just a means to guide ourselves from being victim of scam.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The problem with newbies here is that they don't know how to wait and be patient. You, OP, must understand that the person you call a former newcomer has been on the forum for some time, experienced some history, and, yes, gained some experience. You want trust from the very first posts, right? Are you sure this is how it's supposed to work? Would you buy something from someone, or would you immediately trust someone you met online? Answer the question; I think your answer is obvious.

[GeorgeJohn]

If it is, then I believe the market will inevitably give rise to many transactions involving the sale of old Bitcointalk accounts. In fact, you can already easily buy Bitcointalk accounts on some personal websites and use them to post.

Yeah' some people sells bitcointalk account outside the forum, but buying bitcointalk account is risk, because you dont know what the rightful owner of the account has committed with the account....Secondly, it will be easier for a committed forum user to detect a bought account, the writing style of the person will definitely change

Buying a bitcointalk account is not good, it will be better for you to build your own account instead of buying.

I feel that there is some discrimination against newcomers.

Their's no discrimination against the newbies, everyone is one in bitcointalk, the only thing is that, if experience user is correcting a newbie, many of the newbies thing feel that they're humiliating them, but it's not true.

May I ask, who is born as an old Bitcointalk member? Isn’t everyone accumulating experience over time?

No body is born as old Bitcointalk member, but someone who has experienced more than others and the registration date is older than others, is an old Bitcointalk than a newly registered user

If you’ve been on the forum for one year, you make a post, and then a user who has been here for two years calls you a scammer, how would you feel?

Before someone who is experienced called a newbie a scammers, the newbie have acted like one....in any atoms of nonsense theirs sense..someone can't be called scammer when the person have not attempt to be one or have not committed a crime.

[MinMan]

I don't think newbies are seen that way only because they are new in the forum, unless they give everyone a reason to see them that way. Whenever a newbie starts a service or tries to manage something, users will surely want them to either use an escrow service or their team should hire someone experienced or with some reputation to do that because it is natural to not trust someone who is new at a place, even in the real world, you wouldn't believe someone you just met, especially when it involves money or something.

I have seen and observed that newbies who normally stay in the forum aren't discriminated for anything, but when it comes to running a service or managing a campaign or doing anything else that would require someone to have a reputation if they need people to trust them, only they are told, not discriminated, that they should at least do something that will make people have more trust in them and their services.

[JollyGood]

I could be wrong and other might disagree but most members here already accept that not all newbie accounts are part of account farms and they should be given a chance without applying suspicion.

Keeping that aside, the first thing that comes to mind after reading most of what the OP posted is that he is most probably operating several accounts with at least one that has recently been tagged after the recent number of threads about connected accounts were created in the Reputation board.

[howardsentell]

The forum is experiencing a decline in membership, largely because new participants are discouraged from remaining active. For instance, I have over forty years of collecting experience and have been a business owner for more than thirty years. Despite this, I have observed that the prevailing attitude within the forum often fails to recognize the contributions. It is essential to implement strategies that encourage member retention. Legendary members should focus on mentoring rather than criticizing or belittling newcomers. Currently, new members frequently encounter disrespect and, at times, bullying. There are certainly exemplary members within the community. If you support and welcome new members, your forum is more likely to grow and succeed. If you don't nurture your new member, the forum will no longer exist. Proof: Based on my experience, I anticipate that critics will strongly oppose my post.

[Mbitr]

The forum is experiencing a decline in membership, largely because new participants are discouraged from remaining active. For instance, I have over forty years of collecting experience and have been a business owner for more than thirty years. Despite this, I have observed that the prevailing attitude within the forum often fails to recognize the contributions. It is essential to implement strategies that encourage member retention. Legendary members should focus on mentoring rather than criticizing or belittling newcomers. Currently, new members frequently encounter disrespect and, at times, bullying. There are certainly exemplary members within the community. If you support and welcome new members, your forum is more likely to grow and succeed. If you don't nurture your new member, the forum will no longer exist. Proof: Based on my experience, I anticipate that critics will strongly oppose my post.

I’ll offer you some mentoring/advice.
1. AI produced replies are not regarded highly.
2. Duplicating the same reply 5 times in different topics since 30th December is again not highly regarded.

Perhaps add some originality and offer something to the forum?

Again, totally up to you in you want to TAKE advice.

[Rikafip]

The forum is experiencing a decline in membership, largely because new participants are discouraged from remaining active.

Bitcointalk is experiencing decline because that's the trend across all forums; new generations nowadays have more option and often chose other means of communications.

Currently, new members frequently encounter disrespect and, at times, bullying. There are certainly exemplary members within the community. If you support and welcome new members, your forum is more likely to grow and succeed. If you don't nurture your new member, the forum will no longer exist. Proof: Based on my experience, I anticipate that critics will strongly oppose my post.

This forum is plagued by alts who are coming here for the sole purposes of leeching of the forum, and people got good at figuring out who is who, and for that reason you maybe got impression that more experienced members are more hostile towards newbies.

I was a new member once and not a single time here I experienced any hostility from more experienced members. Some of them I even pestered via PMs on the regular basis and all of them were patient and helpful.

[EarnOnVictor]

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So I hope Bitcointalk users won’t have any prejudice against new accounts. We should carefully verify what someone says, rather than dismissing it in a simple and crude way. My personal experiences have compelled me to write this long post on Bitcointalk.

Sorry for feeling this way, I understand your plight.

Still, my question is, don't you think newbies need to prove themselves before they are taking seriously on the forum? There's no way you can cover talents, the exceptional users here would always be discovered. However, this shouldn't stop those who are not so exceptional, who want to communicate with good intentions, to be discovered. Unfortunately, the past experiences have made things tougher. I can only appeal that readers should show more leniency.

As for the unwarranted allegations, you shouldn't even bother yourself if your intentions are good and didn't break the forum's rules. "If a wicked or an insensitive person alleges, it's not the same who will be the judge." It's everybody!

[JollyGood]

This thread must a significant amount of sentimental value to the OP. He created this thread on 2nd January 2026 and made two more posts on the same day. After that, he did not address any of the subsequent 14 posts.

For a newbie account that was created to subliminally ask for account farmers under the guise of new users to not be tagged, he has not really made a very good case.