AB de Royse777 scam and abuse of power

[jeremypwr]

So 1win owes rewards from months ago; yet AB de Royse777 continues to offer weekly contests in Games and rounds?

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Ok, sure 

[JollyGood]

Part of the reason why Royse777 has these issues is because he is clearly a narcissist, he thinks he is better than everybody else. The nonsense he spouts about providing information to those in his Telegram is unjustifiable because he is using this forum to seek campaign/games/bounty participants therefore he should have posted here a long time ago with an explanation. As you stated, had he done that this thread would not have been created.

This is exactly what I am talking about. I am not surprised that someone finally spoke up about this issue. Some of you might even suspect that I am the one who posted this since I am the one who keeps posting about this in the 1win thread and in Royse Telegram. lol. But I am not the OP.
As one of the winners, I understand OP frustration. Imagine waiting for something that was promised, only for it to not come as expected.
If this should have been addressed by Royse here in bitcointalk earlier, before someone felt the need to post like this. If that happened, I think we would not be dealing with this thread now.

[mindrust]

Mang why don’t you stop the rounds the moment you stopped receiving topups from the casino? It doesn’t make sense and it is hurting your reputation. Little mouse didn’t receive topups this week and he had to remove more than half of the participants from the campaign which i am currently in. This is a common practice. No money = no promotion.

In the end, if the casino don’t do the topup, you’ll have to pay from your own pocket do you realize that?

And even if you do, making people wait is still not cool.

Lutpin was also doing the same crap.

[LoyceV]

Those who are close and following my campaign management knows anything that posted in the telegram group gets my attention faster.

If the scam accusation is about this topic, why didn't you post in there during the past 2 months, instead of expecting people to follow your personal promotion on Telegram? You create a topic on Bitcointalk, follow up there! Now you just create a topic and abandon it, and judging by the 18 topics you've created in Games and Rounds in December alone, this isn't the first time.

Also: you should know by now that on-forum altcoin giveaways aren't allowed. Asking people to choose their default currency isn't allowed, it should be Bitcoin.

[Nigeriaki]

is delaying payments for the last couple months.
They have changed staff twice who deals with me about campaign payments and contests rewards.

That makes no sense if the casino is delaying it should be your problem to make them deliver what is promised. Two months of almost free marketing for a huge casino that’s a total crap to me. So if the casino now decides to not pay at all, at least tell us that and everyone moves on, so also the casino won’t promote and scam the users who spend money in the casino because each campaign requires players to deposit….

The question also are you willing to pay participants with your own money, every winner with direct btc? Or you will move on too and take the campaign money you have made. Also another question is that you are paid for the campaign not free, but the players are scammed, do you feel good?

Are we going to trust you anymore? How can it be okay not even doing any extra effort after two days from this topic? I don’t see any updates.


In my opinion honesty, it feels like nobody will get paid or wait more months, then 1 win is doing free marketing, the forum is controlled by powerful people even when they scam they get away, everyone afraid feom you because you can tag red with reasons.

The reason why not speaking feom my account is not having even power to tag so easily I can lose the account I have, the proof is this topic will stay a red flag for Royse and people supporting his scammy activity.

[JollyGood]

I never understood why any manager would unilaterally conclude there was a correlation between the bounty/campaigns they managed and information related to it only being made available via their Telegram. If they use this forum to seek and enroll members then they must use the forum to provide information to participants too.

In the case of Royse777 and his relationship with 1win (and those that have participated in the competitions), it clearly is yet another demonstration of his lack of skills and how to balance all the factors.

Those who are close and following my campaign management knows anything that posted in the telegram group gets my attention faster.

If the scam accusation is about this topic, why didn't you post in there during the past 2 months, instead of expecting people to follow your personal promotion on Telegram? You create a topic on Bitcointalk, follow up there! Now you just create a topic and abandon it, and judging by the 18 topics you've created in Games and Rounds in December alone, this isn't the first time.

Also: you should know by now that on-forum altcoin giveaways aren't allowed. Asking people to choose their default currency isn't allowed, it should be Bitcoin.

[adultcrypto]

is delaying payments for the last couple months.
They have changed staff twice who deals with me about campaign payments and contests rewards.

The reason why not speaking feom my account is not having even power to tag so easily I can lose the account I have, the proof is this topic will stay a red flag for Royse and people supporting his scammy activity.

From what I understand as scam, this case does not qualify because money was not released to Royse and he kept them to himself. If you are in the position of Royse, you may likely do the same thing he did which is trying sustain the business of his client while hoping they keep their own side of the bargain. The delay was from 1Win and not Royse, so tone down with your scam accusation because you are dealing with the reputation and career of an individual that have put so much effort to build them. It is easy to call someone a scammer her because there are no legal consequence to libel in this forum else we would have been more careful with our choices of words.

What I expect Royse to do at this point is to stop further promotions of those contests and insist that 1Win pay out backlogs and possibly pay upfront for future events.

[Vovchik90]

Check this contest and Royse already announcing the contest winner the reward credited by 1Win team, actually all contest handle by Royse payment always credit by the 1Win team and he not kept fund on his pocket 
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[JollyGood]

PS: If anyone is replying JG and expecting he can do something about it then you are wrong. JG left BS that he has in his mind and those who know the Character JG knows his biased BS towards my business.

Maybe apply some better grammar here, what on earth is the narcissist mumbling on about now?

A small delay would be acceptable, but multiple months???

It is not acceptable for this scenario to become a regular occurrence.

The way it has always worked in the past is if a company is showing signs of a scam, the manager ceases all promotions until the issue is corrected or the company is tagged and no manager takes over. IMO just because 1 thing is being paid, doesn't mean this isn't still an issue and potential scam. They as a company agreed to these contests and should pay them as promised. No reason to delay over staff changes or whatever else. They should pay the previous contests and you guys come up with a new structure with the rules and who is eligible.

These people have a right to ask where their money is and their concerns shouldn't be dismissed because you want to keep making money from the sig campaign that is paying. What happens when that stops being paid? Come on, do better man.

It does make you wonder what would have happened if a different campaign manager was in that situation and how they would handle it. I doubt they would allow the situation to have deteriorated to the level it has in this situation.

The lack of communication on part of Royse777 is one of the main issues, instead of using this forum to update members he wants them to join his Telegram.

[yahoo62278]

It does make you wonder what would have happened if a different campaign manager was in that situation and how they would handle it. I doubt they would allow the situation to have deteriorated to the level it has in this situation.

The lack of communication on part of Royse777 is one of the main issues, instead of using this forum to update members he wants them to join his Telegram.

I would have to take a deeper look at what isn't paid( I assume the table posted is what's outstanding?), what the contest rules were/are, when payment was promised, etc.

There's more to consider vs just crucifying a manager unless said manager is the 1 causing the issue or continuing to promote a known scam. Is 1win a scam because these certain contests weren't/haven't been paid? Are the requests for additional information reasonable? Should a timeline be requested then further action taken if not met?

[Satofan44]

Is 1win a scam because these certain contests weren't/haven't been paid? Are the requests for additional information reasonable?

How long would you wait if I didn't pay somebody as promised before calling me a scammer? Several months?  

Should a timeline be requested then further action taken if not met?

The delay is already far past a timeline request. Is this casino considered a long standing and highly reputable enterprise here? If not, then what justifies the level of leniency that is being shown here? Even if it were highly reputable, there must be a reasonable limit to the amount of leniency that is given.

Occasional delays can be accepted if there are proper reasons and explanations are given. However, "please behave honestly after several months so I don't tag you" does not seem the right approach to malpractice.

[JollyGood]

He seems to have learned at least part of his lesson, he is informing the newbie winner of the competition that the rewards will be paid after delays as the casino team will be unavailable until 12th January. If he was going to run any competitions he should have added that vital information alongside the rules for all to read.

Maybe the most prudent move on his part would be stop running any competitions until there is an escrow after the 1win team is available.

Having said that, 1win cannot be blamed for this PR disaster because it is down to the manner Royse777 has mismanaged yet another campaign by providing lack of information again because he believes his Telegram is more important for announcements than the forum when it comes to updating participants.

I would have to take a deeper look at what isn't paid( I assume the table posted is what's outstanding?), what the contest rules were/are, when payment was promised, etc.

There's more to consider vs just crucifying a manager unless said manager is the 1 causing the issue or continuing to promote a known scam. Is 1win a scam because these certain contests weren't/haven't been paid? Are the requests for additional information reasonable? Should a timeline be requested then further action taken if not met?

[coupable]

I agree with everyone who says there is an unjustified delay from 1win, and that it is already lasting far too long (months).
I also agree with all the winners whose prizes are delayed, even though the competition was free to enter and did not cost them anything. Nothing wrong with mosting your main account Op, you are in the right side and none will tag you because of this complaint.
I also agree that Royse could have posted informative clarification regarding updates from 1win here on the forum (can use contest threads), in parallel with announcing them on his telegram channel as well.

At the same time, I don't see much cause for concern given 1win's clean reputation, and Royse reputation as a trusted manager as well. Both won't risk their reputation built over the years for few tens of dollars. Yes Royse will pay winners from his own poket if 1win proven to be a scam project which is a hard to happen scenario. If I well remember, Royse did it before with Bitlucy casino scam, he paid signature participants from his own money.

@OP nothing to worry about with Royse and I wish you read good news soon.

[JollyGood]

Royse777 is not a powerful person, he is nothing more than a regular member that started using Telegram to contact casino and mixer owners asking them if they wanted to promote their services here via a signature campaign. Today, he has hardly any share of the campaign manager market as others are far ahead of him. There is no need to be in fear of retaliation if you use your real/regular account to complain about him.

Keeping that aside, have you had any update from Royse777 regarding payments? He did state in posts elsewhere that the 1win team would be available on 12th January therefore if he has not updated you, he should be doing it today. Any failure to advise participants today (regardless of the news) will be another demonstration of his mismanagement.

In my opinion honesty, it feels like nobody will get paid or wait more months, then 1 win is doing free marketing, the forum is controlled by powerful people even when they scam they get away, everyone afraid feom you because you can tag red with reasons.

The reason why not speaking feom my account is not having even power to tag so easily I can lose the account I have, the proof is this topic will stay a red flag for Royse and people supporting his scammy activity.