Hal Finney

[Error_xaM]

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 This Hela Fini wallet has been compromised?

[Rashlyowl]

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 This Hela Fini wallet has been compromised?

Week ago, there were 2 transactions totaling $804.96 sent to bc1q98zdvg8zd8g224fdc7flptaml0dzzfr46wqnm6 from Hal Finney address.



End of this transaction goes to bc1pdwu79dady576y3fupmm82m3g7p2p9f6hgyeqy0tdg7ztxg7xrayqlkl8j9 which is a hot wallet entity labeled 'Hyperunit', judging by the transaction pattern, it doesn't appear the sender intended to conceal it. So I doubt Hal Finney's address was compromised. I have also searched the internet for other information, but I haven't found any.

[348Judah]

Now after knowing all these, what does it change, how has that got to do with the market, our personal portfolio or any progress we planned to make in cryptocurrency, sometimes, we have to learn on looking away at some things, because these people are moving their coins at their discretion, we should also work by our own plan and leave them alone to enjoy the profits in what they had done in the past, his family must have been in control of his wallet, after he died.

[aoluain]

Now after knowing all these, what does it change, how has that got to do with the market, our personal portfolio or any progress we planned to make in cryptocurrency, sometimes, we have to learn on looking away at some things, because these people are moving their coins at their discretion, we should also work by our own plan and leave them alone to enjoy the profits in what they had done in the past, his family must have been in control of his wallet, after he died.

It doesnt change anything!

There are people who are watching certain wallet addresses for any movements
as per the OP but again it doesnt change anything.

Even if One of Satoshi's wallets was to show a transaction now the market would
surely react but it would be very much a short term reaction.

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 This Hela Fini wallet has been compromised?

Week ago, there were 2 transactions totaling $804.96 sent to bc1q98zdvg8zd8g224fdc7flptaml0dzzfr46wqnm6 from Hal Finney address.



End of this transaction goes to bc1pdwu79dady576y3fupmm82m3g7p2p9f6hgyeqy0tdg7ztxg7xrayqlkl8j9 which is a hot wallet entity labeled 'Hyperunit', judging by the transaction pattern, it doesn't appear the sender intended to conceal it. So I doubt Hal Finney's address was compromised. I have also searched the internet for other information, but I haven't found any.

Probably not compromised, could be a totally 'legit' transaction.
Not that its anyones business but is it in the public domain how Hal had
left his wallets?

[Error_xaM]

I don’t follow specific wallets, I’m focused on slightly different areas. Over the past year, I’ve noticed a lot of theories circulating about alleged attempts to hack early BTC wallets, but let’s not go into that. Today, however, I happened to come across Finney’s wallet and noticed some fund movement, which is why I decided to ask for clarification.

[Lucius]

~snip~
Probably not compromised, could be a totally 'legit' transaction.
Not that its anyones business but is it in the public domain how Hal had
left his wallets?

I'm not sure if there is an official explanation, but the assumption is that someone from his family has access to his wallets and his account on this forum. His account was last active in the first half of 2017.

[aoluain]

~snip~
Probably not compromised, could be a totally 'legit' transaction.
Not that its anyones business but is it in the public domain how Hal had
left his wallets?

I'm not sure if there is an official explanation, but the assumption is that someone from his family has access to his wallets and his account on this forum. His account was last active in the first half of 2017.

If thats the case I'm very happy for them that they get to utilise those
as they see fit.

[Upgrade00]

Even if One of Satoshi's wallets was to show a transaction now the market would
surely react but it would be very much a short term reaction.

Movement on any of the wallets suspected to be connected to Satoshi the reaction will definitely be long term. There would be lots of speculation on the motive of the transaction and more importantly more people trying to draw connections with his real identity.

I'm not sure if there is an official explanation, but the assumption is that someone from his family has access to his wallets and his account on this forum

I will very much expect someone with the Bitcoin experience that he has will make it possible for his family to get access to his bitcoins if he wasn't available. He was not anonymous so that will not be an impediment to him doing that.

[cr1776]

I don’t follow specific wallets, I’m focused on slightly different areas. Over the past year, I’ve noticed a lot of theories circulating about alleged attempts to hack early BTC wallets, but let’s not go into that. Today, however, I happened to come across Finney’s wallet and noticed some fund movement, which is why I decided to ask for clarification.

I'd suspect it was something from his family or, perhaps, he gave access to a wallet or coins to Alcor (alcor.org) since he is cryopreserved there.   He was no fool, and was adept at planning ahead for contingencies, particularly once he got his diagnosis.

[Josefjix]

~snip~
Probably not compromised, could be a totally 'legit' transaction.
Not that its anyones business but is it in the public domain how Hal had
left his wallets?

I'm not sure if there is an official explanation, but the assumption is that someone from his family has access to his wallets

I will agree with you on that because the way the transactions were made, it seems like the family uses it to purchase something off the store on 26th Dec, 2025, because the amount spent was way too small and consistent, i was just thinking on the kind of transaction such withdrawal could happen on.
But whatever it may be, the market is still strong and it never affected it in any way.

[gmaxwell]

Hal's wallet(s) were sold/compromised in some way--  I don't know the details but I've witness unambiguously forged signatures performed with his keys (e.g. signed using code/protocols that only existed after he was on ice but claiming to be by him).

[PrivacyG]

I'd suspect it was something from his family or, perhaps, he gave access to a wallet or coins to Alcor (alcor.org) since he is cryopreserved there.   He was no fool, and was adept at planning ahead for contingencies, particularly once he got his diagnosis.

Giving access to his family makes sense but why would he give access to Alcor to his Money?

[coupable]

End of this transaction goes to bc1pdwu79dady576y3fupmm82m3g7p2p9f6hgyeqy0tdg7ztxg7xrayqlkl8j9 which is a hot wallet entity labeled 'Hyperunit', judging by the transaction pattern, it doesn't appear the sender intended to conceal it. So I doubt Hal Finney's address was compromised. I have also searched the internet for other information, but I haven't found any.

Searching about 'Hyperunit', it is Hyperliquid's native, decentralized asset bridging and tokenization layer, allowing to securely deposit Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana onto Hyperliquid platform which is also a decentralized crypto-bridge. If the wallet isn't sold/compromised, why should a family member use a decentralized bridge layer considering the original owner of the addresses Hal is known figure?

[rat03gopoh]

If the wallet isn't sold/compromised, why should a family member use a decentralized bridge layer considering the original owner of the addresses Hal is known figure?

Hal may have inherited the privkey and the bitcoins inside, but unfortunately he didn't inherit the knowledge as well, esp. how the wallets should be treated. I'm sure his keys have been exposed to multiple parties.

[Lucius]

Hal's wallet(s) were sold/compromised in some way--  I don't know the details but I've witness unambiguously forged signatures performed with his keys (e.g. signed using code/protocols that only existed after he was on ice but claiming to be by him).

This is the first time I've read something like this, because until now I was convinced that his family had access to his account on this forum in his wallets. If his wallets were indeed compromised, do you think it could be the result of someone being able to fraudulently obtain them from his family or did they simply throw away his computers and someone got their hands on them?

Somehow it doesn't seem to me that Hal was the kind of person who would just leave things behind without taking steps to ensure that his family inherited what was valuable.

[Error_xaM]

Hal's wallet(s) were sold/compromised in some way--  I don't know the details but I've witness unambiguously forged signatures performed with his keys (e.g. signed using code/protocols that only existed after he was on ice but claiming to be by him).

This is the first time I've read something like this, because until now I was convinced that his family had access to his account on this forum in his wallets. If his wallets were indeed compromised, do you think it could be the result of someone being able to fraudulently obtain them from his family or did they simply throw away his computers and someone got their hands on them?

Somehow it doesn't seem to me that Hal was the kind of person who would just leave things behind without taking steps to ensure that his family inherited what was valuable.

Or they have an accountant who manages their money and simply withdrew the money for the family

[gmaxwell]

Hal's wallet(s) were sold/compromised in some way--  I don't know the details but I've witness unambiguously forged signatures performed with his keys (e.g. signed using code/protocols that only existed after he was on ice but claiming to be by him).

This is the first time I've read something like this, because until now I was convinced that his family had access to his account on this forum in his wallets. If his wallets were indeed compromised, do you think it could be the result of someone being able to fraudulently obtain them from his family or did they simply throw away his computers and someone got their hands on them?

Somehow it doesn't seem to me that Hal was the kind of person who would just leave things behind without taking steps to ensure that his family inherited what was valuable.

My belief is that when they previously sold funds they just sold the entire wallet, -- not an unreasonable thing to do for someone less familiar with bitcoin as it mitigates the risk that they'd mess up accessing them or transferring the funds.

But I don't know for sure.  What I do know is that someone with access to at least one of the keys from his wallet signed a message claiming to be from Hal and stating a particular person was Satoshi -- and the signer could not have been Hal because the signature type used didn't exist while Hal was alive so it is not possible that it was authentic.

[Churchillvv]

But I don't know for sure.  What I do know is that someone with access to at least one of the keys from his wallet signed a message claiming to be from Hal and stating a particular person was Satoshi -- and the signer could not have been Hal because the signature type used didn't exist while Hal was alive so it is not possible that it was authentic.

The possibility of it’s authenticity is very low from your observation and making me question how much possible it is to compromise such wallet from 2017, additionally for the mere fact that the signature message claims to be him that means someone from his family is possibly behind it because it can’t be far from some who could access a few things from him.

Or they have an accountant who manages their money and simply withdrew the money for the family

From what gmaxwell is saying, it’s not accessed with a pure intention or in the right manner as the person behind it claims to be him even with the fact that the code which he is using from later days after Hal has crossed.

[Donneski]

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 This Hela Fini wallet has been compromised?

Week ago, there were 2 transactions totaling $804.96 sent to bc1q98zdvg8zd8g224fdc7flptaml0dzzfr46wqnm6 from Hal Finney address.



End of this transaction goes to bc1pdwu79dady576y3fupmm82m3g7p2p9f6hgyeqy0tdg7ztxg7xrayqlkl8j9 which is a hot wallet entity labeled 'Hyperunit', judging by the transaction pattern, it doesn't appear the sender intended to conceal it. So I doubt Hal Finney's address was compromised. I have also searched the internet for other information, but I haven't found any.

It’s interesting to notice activity from such an old wallet but I think it’s easy to read too much into it. The amount moved was very small and we’ve seen similar movements from old addresses before without anything coming out of it. The blockchain only shows us that a transaction happened but doesn't show us the reason behind it. Sometimes I think it’s better to acknowledge it and not force a deeper meaning where there may be none.

[coupable]

If the wallet isn't sold/compromised, why should a family member use a decentralized bridge layer considering the original owner of the addresses Hal is known figure?

Hal may have inherited the privkey and the bitcoins inside, but unfortunately he didn't inherit the knowledge as well, esp. how the wallets should be treated. I'm sure his keys have been exposed to multiple parties.

Shouldn't his family be aware of all these details, even if none of them have sufficient knowledge? At least they could have used services of any trusted entity/person, or at least alerted the world about private data of Hal being breach. I'm sure they can investigate who could got access to private files as well as wallets.