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January 04, 2026, 06:05:48 AM
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Hello Everyone,

Many user's belive that bitcoin is anonymous since government has no connection towards it and it is a peer to peer connection.  But the reality is opposite , standard Bitcoin transactions are completely transparent. When you send a transaction, it is like posting your bank statement on a public wall for the entire world to see forever. You can be traceable if you ever broadcast your remaining bitcoin to any centralized exchanger

If you want to make your payments truly private (invisible), you need to use the Lightning Network (LND)

Note: I won't discuss any technical parts in this thread. Instead, I will explain how LND works in a simple way for beginners.

If you ever broadcast a transaction through Bitcoin it will be like that forever and anyone can track this with the transaction hash.  From Block explorers anyone can track this the fund goes from A to B

The Solution: The "Private Room" (LND)
Think of using Lightning like walking into a busy bar and opening a tab.
  • Entering (The Channel): You put some money down to open your tab(Which is creating the channel ,Channel holds your fund for you). The public blockchain sees you walked into the bar. This is the only visible footprint.
  • Going Dark (The Transactions): Once your tab is open, you are effectively "invisible." People can See
      you enter the bar but they don't have any Idea how much coffe you bought or what your ordered.
    • You buy a coffee.
    • You send sats to a friend.
    • You pay for a service.
    None of these transactions are broadcast to the blockchain. They happen privately between you and the other party. No public record exists.
  • Leaving (Settlement): When you are done, you close the tab. The blockchain only sees your final balance. It has no idea you made 50 transactions while you were inside.
Why is this "Invisible"?
  • No Trail: Because the individual payments are never written to the blockchain, chain analysis companies cannot trace them. So you're basically free to do whatever you wants to do or spent your money with
  • Onion Routing: LND wraps your money in layers of encryption. The nodes moving your money don't know who sent it or who the final receiver is.

Summary
People do use bitcoin to go for annonimity and without hassle which we faced in Bank Payments so if you wants to feel truly private and secured, LND is the only way to "Go Dark."

Stay safe and keep your privacy!



Onion Routing - Using Tor , you're untraceable. Your public Ip won't be disclosed to ther surface.

Channel - You need to create a personal account tab for storing your money you wants to transact. Let's say you open a close channel 0.1 BTC so that 0.1 BTC is the maximum value you can store and transaction at once, but volume does not count you can do 1000 transaction worth 0.1 BTC

Transaction in LND is cheap , Faster , Smoother.
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January 04, 2026, 07:03:07 AM
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  • No Trail: Because the individual payments are never written to the blockchain, chain analysis companies cannot trace them. So you're basically free to do whatever you wants to do or spent your money with
Regarding Chain-analysis, they have some methods to trace off-chain in some degrees.

With their announcement of Lightning support, aside from the obvious channel funding/closing transactions analysis;
they've probably already established a few lightning routing nodes or partnered with some famous LN service providers to be able to somehow trace txns that got routed through them.
Or course, direct channel to the payment recipient shouldn't be affected by that.

They've even claimed a bounty related to tracing lightning or Monero transactions.
Ref: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z9j62d/the_irs_bounty_the_full_story
(as the Author concluded, the claim is less likely due to Monero being traced but Lightning, the "primary goal" is either of the two)

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January 04, 2026, 05:14:30 PM
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Thanks for the beginner-friendly write-up! Lightning can indeed improve privacy compared to normal on-chain payments, but the title “Make your Bitcoin transaction invisible” is a bit misleading.

Important clarification: Lightning is more private than typical on-chain transfers, but it is not “fully invisible / untraceable” in all cases.



1) What Lightning hides (and what it does NOT)

  • Off-chain payments are not recorded on the Bitcoin blockchain (good for privacy vs base layer).
  • BUT opening and closing channels are on-chain transactions. These on-chain footprints can be analyzed and may link your UTXOs to LN activity (especially in force-closes or distinctive patterns).

Reference: Many LN privacy explainers (and research) point out that funding/closing transactions can leak information
Voltage: Lightning Network Privacy Explainer



2) “Onion routing” ≠ Tor

Your post mixes two different concepts:

  • Lightning “onion routing” is a protocol-level construction (Sphinx-style packet) that lets each hop learn only the next hop, not the full path.
  • Tor is a separate network-layer privacy tool that helps hide your IP/transport metadata.

So: LN onion routing helps with route privacy, while Tor helps with network-level privacy. Using both can be better than using only one.

References: 
BOLT #4: Onion Routing 
LND: Configuring Tor



3) “No trail / chain analysis can’t trace anything” is too strong

Even if payments are off-chain, there are known ways to infer information in certain situations:
  • Public network graph + timing/amount correlation can reduce anonymity sets.
  • Channel probing / topology-based attacks can reveal balances or narrow down sender/receiver candidates (depends on attacker capabilities and routing).

This is not to say “Lightning is bad” — it’s just a reminder that LN privacy is conditional, not absolute.

Reference (academic): 
An Empirical Analysis of Privacy in the Lightning Network (arXiv)



4) Channels are not “custodied by LND”

A Lightning channel is not a “personal account tab holding your funds”.
It’s a 2-of-2 multisig funding output where both parties have keys, and each side can close the channel according to the protocol rules. 
LND is software (an implementation), not a custodian by itself.

Where custody does happen is when users rely on custodial LN wallets/services that can see (and log) activity.



5) Practical privacy tips for beginners (safe + realistic)

  • Separate wallets: keep a small “spending / dApp” wallet and a separate long-term storage wallet.
  • Be careful with channel funding: funding/closing leaves an on-chain footprint — avoid unnecessary linking (basic coin control hygiene).
  • Use Tor with LND if you can to reduce IP-based metadata leaks.
  • Understand who learns what: the receiver knows you paid; intermediate hops learn limited routing info; privacy depends on threat model.



Suggestion to improve your OP:
Maybe rename the thread to something like:
“Make your Bitcoin payments more private with Lightning (LND) — beginner overview”

That would be accurate and still helpful. 🙂
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January 05, 2026, 01:40:49 PM
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If you want to make your payments truly private (invisible), you need to use the Lightning Network (LND)
This is not true, Lightning Network is NOT private or invisible at all, and it is being tracked by different analytics companies.
It's even worse when we add that most popular LN wallets are custodial, they also track everything and censor people all the time.

Transaction in LND is cheap , Faster , Smoother.
It's not smoother at all, and you still have to move coins on-chain at some point.
There is no easy and simple way to move coins from on-chain to LN, not to mention that fees can sometimes be higher than on-chain fees.

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January 06, 2026, 04:22:32 AM
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-snip- not to mention that fees can sometimes be higher than on-chain fees.
I've seen one example of that overpaid LN transaction in other forums. (yeah, it was absurdly high)
It was due to how the wallet's trampoline routing managed the multiple routes that the transaction had to pass through to send the high amount of bitcoins to the recipient.
But AFAIK, most wallets that support it now handles it more efficiently.
And regarding that specific wallet (If we're thinking about the same incident), the user can now set a maximum transaction fee.

Anyways, I agree with LN and On-chain fees now being comparable.
The overall transaction fee, specially now that sub-1sat/vB is standard, some LN transaction's fee can get as much as a 0.3sat/vB on-chain transaction or even higher.

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January 06, 2026, 02:57:51 PM
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The overall transaction fee, specially now that sub-1sat/vB is standard, some LN transaction's fee can get as much as a 0.3sat/vB on-chain transaction or even higher.
And I guess LN custodial wallets could also be charging some additional fees.
Even some self-custodial LN wallet are charging fees for opening channels, or funding fee, as well as fees for submarine swaps.
Last time I checked Phoenix wallet had 1% fee when depositing coins on-chain.

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