China taking over the world without military actions.

[AbuBhakar]

There are two takes on China's plans, China is increasing its energy production capability to be self sufficient and increasing its military to take on Taiwan in 2027, many of the media still portrays that China is modernizing its army and gearing up for 2027 invasion. With self sufficiency specially on energy, they could continue the war for as long as they want and won't be affected by any sanctions.
But there's an even larger idea about China getting to a technological advancement that it could dictate the earth and the solar system. They would become so technologically and militarily advanced that no one would even think of competing with them and they gets things done without a war and gets Taiwan.
Getting Taiwan is the end goal for all paths, the only difference is whether its in 2027 or much later.

I doubt that Taiwan is China's end zone. Well, they have been protesting about Taiwan for a long time. After all, they should have taken it back long ago. It's just that there are other countries that are getting involved in the issue, which, after all, has been over for a long time. They just think to delay it because they saw that Taiwan would be a big factor if there were a large-scale war.

China is also strengthening alliances in preparation in case there are countries that interfere with their taking back Taiwan. In terms of the military, they have also increased their budget here annually, and it seems like they are preparing too much for the approaching possible war.

[abhiseshakana]

There are two takes on China's plans, China is increasing its energy production capability to be self sufficient and increasing its military to take on Taiwan in 2027, many of the media still portrays that China is modernizing its army and gearing up for 2027 invasion. With self sufficiency specially on energy, they could continue the war for as long as they want and won't be affected by any sanctions.
But there's an even larger idea about China getting to a technological advancement that it could dictate the earth and the solar system. They would become so technologically and militarily advanced that no one would even think of competing with them and they gets things done without a war and gets Taiwan.
Getting Taiwan is the end goal for all paths, the only difference is whether its in 2027 or much later.

I doubt that Taiwan is China's end zone. Well, they have been protesting about Taiwan for a long time. After all, they should have taken it back long ago. It's just that there are other countries that are getting involved in the issue, which, after all, has been over for a long time. They just think to delay it because they saw that Taiwan would be a big factor if there were a large-scale war.

China is also strengthening alliances in preparation in case there are countries that interfere with their taking back Taiwan. In terms of the military, they have also increased their budget here annually, and it seems like they are preparing too much for the approaching possible war.

Learn from China's habit they will wait, prepare and consolidate gradually its influence and domination to be systemic strenght. In the near future or decade when reunification happen, world can do anything to prevent. As we know, beside military power, China copying US way to be world key trading partner almost all country in the world, when china playing bad boy, other country choose to keep silence. BRI lock China interest in every country. China through dedolarization agenda reducing sanction effectiveness for any action on Taiwan. China also dominate strategic global supply chain which actualy weaken US leverage. With all those domination, when China finally finished it sovereign issue and ended unfinished civil war, world doesn't have capability to stop. Taiwan is China's strategic interest, in simple word, China arrange or setting global condition and acceptance of China action swallowing Taiwan.

[Swordsoffreedom]

China is a great country with a lot of technology going on there and their economy is also growing rapidly but i don't see them taking over world power from US soon. They might become world power in the future but just as it took the Americans many things before they got recognized, same way it will take China a lot to achieve that. Mind you, world power cannot be achieved without a fight so China should prepare themselves for war if they want world power.

I do not think China's goal is to usurp America's number one position, or that BRICS seeks to defeat NATO and G7 to dominate the globe. What I see is that they are trying to create a multipolar world, a world where power is distributed rather than concentrated in the hands of one country or one group. That's why I support BRICS

To achieve a new global order, war will be inevitable. But in my opinion, China, America or even Russia will not directly confront each other. Because once that happen, it is the end of humanity and it does not matter who wins anymore. Instead, they will create more proxy wars and that is what we are experiencing.

[Wind_FURY]

'Debt Trap' is another strategy that CHina uses on every nation that is in need of financial help and they know for sure that they can't repay their debts on the time so they will use that to take over the control of strategic points like ports, airports and other places where trades are majorly involved. Yes, they are proving that we don't need bullest to take the control it can be done with strategy alone.

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It's not only the control of strategic points. It's also an opportunity for them to ask for political favors and/or a strategy to gain political influence.

I believe small countries around Asia are being co-opted through strategic use of Debt Traps. But many people in those countries are ignorant. They continue supporting those politicians that SELL their country to CHINA. Haha.

 

[Hispo]

Actually, one of the most important tools which is used by China to take over the world and entire regions is simply trap entire nations with debt, so China can use that debt as leverage in order to do basically whatever they want in other's people territory.
It is something they have already done in Africa and are already trying to do in Latin America, here in Venezuela we owe a lot of money to China, and since our corrupt politicians have already stole much of that debt we can only pay back using oil and coal.

China has long understood they can take over the world used their economical influence rather than using their vast military, it is an approach completely different from what we have seen other nations like the United States and the United Kingdom doing through history.

[Richbased]

China is a great country with a lot of technology going on there and their economy is also growing rapidly but i don't see them taking over world power from US soon. They might become world power in the future but just as it took the Americans many things before they got recognized, same way it will take China a lot to achieve that. Mind you, world power cannot be achieved without a fight so China should prepare themselves for war if they want world power.

I do not think China's goal is to usurp America's number one position, or that BRICS seeks to defeat NATO and G7 to dominate the globe. What I see is that they are trying to create a multipolar world, a world where power is distributed rather than concentrated in the hands of one country or one group. That's why I support BRICS

You may be right but even if China or the BRICS nation is not planning to overtake America as world power but i feel that America is threatened by the rapid development in technology and economy of these countries especially China and Russia so they won't see them as people who only want evenly distribution of power anymore which means a conflict may arise and cause mayhem.

To achieve a new global order, war will be inevitable. But in my opinion, China, America or even Russia will not directly confront each other. Because once that happen, it is the end of humanity and it does not matter who wins anymore. Instead, they will create more proxy wars and that is what we are experiencing.

This is true because these country's you mentioned have global influence and military apparatus to fight wars which means that if they decide to collide and fight, a lot of countries will feel the hit of the war thereby leading to a global tension that might ruin the existence of humanity, they know this already and i don't think they can risk it because they know the aftermath.

[Muba20]

China is a great country with a lot of technology going on there and their economy is also growing rapidly but i don't see them taking over world power from US soon. They might become world power in the future but just as it took the Americans many things before they got recognized, same way it will take China a lot to achieve that. Mind you, world power cannot be achieved without a fight so China should prepare themselves for war if they want world power.

China does not advertise its capabilities to the world. And for this, there may not be a good idea about China's power, but in reality, they are very powerful country in the world. The world knows about their J-20 fighter jets. The new design of the aircraft has also come up, which can surprise the whole world in the field of war. Moreover, to conduct war, a strong economy is needed, the country is financially strong. The country is now much more advanced in the technology sector. Their position can now be said to be at the top in terms of economy. Although China is not involved in any conflict, in the future they can come to the world in a way that the world could never have imagined. This change may not be possible very soon, but it will happen in the future.

[justdimin]

China does not advertise its capabilities to the world. And for this, there may not be a good idea about China's power, but in reality, they are very powerful country in the world. The world knows about their J-20 fighter jets. The new design of the aircraft has also come up, which can surprise the whole world in the field of war. Moreover, to conduct war, a strong economy is needed, the country is financially strong. The country is now much more advanced in the technology sector. Their position can now be said to be at the top in terms of economy. Although China is not involved in any conflict, in the future they can come to the world in a way that the world could never have imagined. This change may not be possible very soon, but it will happen in the future.

When you consider, even USA owes trillions to China, you can imagine how much most countries owe China. So unless they annex China somehow (nobody can do that) then China will have the power over them.

You either pay them back, or if you do not, then they will go to legal route to get the money back from you, and if the courts decline, then they will simply cut you out of the deal for the next century and without China, you are going to get ruined, everyone else will do stuff cheaper thanks to China and you will have to pay others more just to get Chinese products by proxy. This is why they are financially trying to dominate every nation, do hard work for very cheap, so they can be owed by everyone and can be basically like a godfather you owe.

[Solodoski]

China is truly a strong force in the world right now and this has not been achieved by using military force, but rather they have gained thus recognition through the way they have improved their economy. China invested so much in technology and that has boost their economy and also made them to be one of the strongest country in the world right now. China is in trade with a lot of the nations in the world right now, which has made them have a lot of allies without using military force, but rather they have achieved this with improving their economy in also every aspect. I really don't think their is any nation right now that don't trade with China.

[terrific]

They're invested in almost every sector that they can take over.
From the gadgets, smart phones, now with the electric vehicles, they've got it. And they're also in a race with the rare minerals that are needed to make batteries for the EVs.
What they have is resources which is simply - money.
The use of money is well utilized by them because they're giving loan to the countries that they can use like in some African countries that have minerals that they can dig.

[Antotena]

China is a great country with a lot of technology going on there and their economy is also growing rapidly but i don't see them taking over world power from US soon. They might become world power in the future but just as it took the Americans many things before they got recognized, same way it will take China a lot to achieve that. Mind you, world power cannot be achieved without a fight so China should prepare themselves for war if they want world power.

We need to understand that this countries are game players and both are interested in building any relationship that is going to bring interest to there countries. US used to be the leading country in term of friendship, donations and supports, they still provide this supports but now they are strict and doesn't want to be exploited anymore. Because they got comfortable, other countries steps in, this is where China came in with their low interest for many countries so they can penetrate in and take their resources.

There was a time Russia was heading the time line, I don't know wjat went wrong, maybe it's the war with Ukraine that reduced their PR I can't say. China seems to be ready for this to conquered the world through friendship and that will help them. Anywhere in the world even if you are truly powerful but you respect other countries and their nation despite the power that you have, other countries will give you the support you need, this is what US doesn't understand.

[Akbarkoe]

Today is busy expanding more influence on the rest of the world. This is going to count moving forward.

I don't agree with what you stated. They are expanding their influence in our region through force by claiming a part of our sea territory where they are already an arbitrary case resulting in favor of our country, yet they keep harassing our fishermen with their superior warships and what about the Taiwan issue? They also harass this country by threatening to occupy it by force.

They are just looking at the right time to harm these two countries 

Philippines fishermen hurt, boat damaged by China in West Philippine Sea

Will China invade Taiwan?

Yeah they are gunning for Taiwan

The world now has 3 super villains.

USA
Russia
China

They will all be grabbing and annexing land and countries.

Times will be very hard the next 10 years for any smaller weaker country.

Population increases, needs increase such as land, food, energy and so on for the future of their nation.

In the end we will return to the past, the law of the jungle will happen again, who is strong they win, the weak and unwilling to work together will be eliminated, such is the challenge of life today, everything will be clearly seen in the time frame you mentioned.

[r_victory]

In addition to everything mentioned, there's the power to invest in other countries; the country has invested heavily in Brazil, especially with the arrival of BYD. Not to mention that practically everything imported by any country comes from there: chips, clothing, and other supplies. The well-known "made in China".

[Wind_FURY]

In addition to everything mentioned, there's the power to invest in other countries; the country has invested heavily in Brazil, especially with the arrival of BYD. Not to mention that practically everything imported by any country comes from there: chips, clothing, and other supplies. The well-known "made in China".

"Chips" = Computer Chips?

They're actually from Taiwan - a country that China doesn't control, but they want to. Although, they can't because invading Taiwan could start a war against the U.S.

China will NEVER do it.

[DrBeer]

China is taking over the world stage without any military actions. All good students on  history will bear me witness that, power has always been taken over by force and military might in the past all global powers has been taken over by military actions. But China the second largest economy in the world and the most populated country in the world is taken over power in the world stage subtly as they continue to expand their interest in all continent without firing a single shot.

How has China been able to do this.

China has been able to successfully lay grib on the rest of the world by  investing in infrastructure and what China terms as strategic investments. Digital networking, investing in infrastructure such as Rail way, power stations, building of hospital and schools, and finally systems. Another thing to consider too is investments in
the world Rare earth minerals and natural resources this is the new world order and China is leading on this areas no wonder more countries are aligning with china. While the West and American is concerned more about using force and military actions to enforce their will on others country just as we are experiencing in the world  today. China is busy expanding more influence on the rest of the world. This is going to count moving forward.

Now I will tell you a long, documented, and instructive story about “Chinese investments.” What makes this story good is that it is a documented fact that anyone can verify, so that they can stop believing in fairy tales about “good China.”

After the civil war (which ended in 2009), Sri Lanka wanted a sharp economic breakthrough. The political elite dreamed of becoming a logistics hub between Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. The dream is understandable: some of the world's busiest shipping routes pass nearby.
Western institutions — the IMF, the World Bank, Japan — were only willing to finance economically viable projects, slowly and with a host of conditions. China came with a different offer:
fast, lots of money, no unnecessary questions about profitability or corruption.
That's how Chinese loans began.
The key symbol of the whole story is the port of Hambantota.
It was built in the home region of then-President Mahinda Rajapaksa. The problem was simple and fatal:
the location was unsuitable for a large port. Shipping was weak, there was no infrastructure around, and commercial demand was almost zero.
But China issued loans. These were not investments with risk sharing, but government loans with interest rates often higher than those of international institutions. Chinese companies built the facilities, using Chinese equipment and Chinese contractors. The money essentially went in a circle and returned to China, while the debt remained in Colombo.
In addition to the port, there were:
-an airport that almost no one used (it was later called “the world's emptiest airport”)
-highways
-energy facilities
-government buildings

This did not yield any economic returns. Instead, it created a debt burden.
By 2015–2017, Sri Lanka was faced with reality:
it had no means to service its debts, foreign currency inflows were insufficient, and reserves were dwindling.
And then a key moment occurred.
In 2017, Sri Lanka leased the port of Hambantota to a Chinese company for 99 years, receiving money in return to cover part of its debts. Formally, this is not “confiscation” but a commercial transaction. In fact, it is an exchange of a sovereign asset for a respite from debt.

As a result:
-Sri Lanka lost control of a strategic facility
-became dependent on debt
-Beijing's political influence in the Indian Ocean increased
-and the country became extremely vulnerable, which exploded in full force in the crisis of 2022
An interesting nuance for the future: China calls this a “win-win cooperation,” while the West calls it a “debt trap.” As is often the case, the truth lies between the lines. No one forced Sri Lanka to take out these loans. But the architecture of the deals was structured in such a way that a mistake almost guaranteed the loss of assets.

Do you still believe in “good China” and “evil West”?

[DPHOR]

Well I wouldn't want to delve into this the more but what I know is that we have three major country that is currently controlling the word power..
Which are;

USA
China
Russia

When talks about the US you talks about development and innovations, and same goes to the China, the have the economy power, and of course they are the most populated as we know and they also a business giant. Talking about the Russia? They are known for having good ammunition more than the rest countries, but currently the USA and China has also increased on their own terms which China could likely take place due to their trade power.

[Fiatless]

Well I wouldn't want to delve into this the more but what I know is that we have three major country that is currently controlling the word power..
Which are;

USA
China
Russia

When talks about the US you talks about development and innovations, and same goes to the China, the have the economy power, and of course they are the most populated as we know and they also a business giant. Talking about the Russia? They are known for having good ammunition more than the rest countries, but currently the USA and China has also increased on their own terms which China could likely take place due to their trade power.

Some European nations, like Germany and others, shouldn't be neglected. Trump might be neglecting the European Union, but this alliance also has much influence in the global economy and the military. Trump is currently restructuring the world. It seems he doesn't care about his close relationship with the EU. He is building an America that has no respect for international treaties. Greenland will be the litmus test of the power of the EU.

[wiss19]

China is a great country with a lot of technology going on there and their economy is also growing rapidly but i don't see them taking over world power from US soon. They might become world power in the future but just as it took the Americans many things before they got recognized, same way it will take China a lot to achieve that. Mind you, world power cannot be achieved without a fight so China should prepare themselves for war if they want world power.

But how can the fight and actually win against the United States if their military has no experience in actual fighting. The U.S. military has been VERY busy for decades.

 

Although, China might win the "A.I. Race" simply because it could generate more electrical energy than the U.S., and to scale A.I. data centers WILL require A LOT of energy.

There is no need for it. China has nuclear weapons, just like Russia does. That may sound like a very big threat, because it is one, and that prevents attacking their soil.

If USA ever decides to go invade China, even if we assume that as a war that is possible (it is not) then we are going to see China simply use nuclear weapons, destroying the planet, instead of just losing, same reason why this Ukraine-Russian war is not over, you think USA couldn't send 50k+ active military with all the gadgets and be done with it already?

[r_victory]

~snip

"Chips" = Computer Chips?

Given the context of this conversation, when I referred to chips, I was logically referring to computer chips, and I know you understood that, and many others here did too.

They're actually from Taiwan - a country that China doesn't control, but they want to. Although, they can't because invading Taiwan could start a war against the U.S.

Yes, you're right, but despite leading the market, Taiwan isn't the only supplier, which is why I mentioned China, which, due to US sanctions, has been developing in this area. I could also mention South Korea and even the US.

China will NEVER do it.

Never doubt someone with a lot of power and weapons. I prefer to say that he hasn't invaded "yet," rather than stating that he won't.

[DrBeer]

There are two takes on China's plans, China is increasing its energy production capability to be self sufficient and increasing its military to take on Taiwan in 2027, many of the media still portrays that China is modernizing its army and gearing up for 2027 invasion. With self sufficiency specially on energy, they could continue the war for as long as they want and won't be affected by any sanctions.
But there's an even larger idea about China getting to a technological advancement that it could dictate the earth and the solar system. They would become so technologically and militarily advanced that no one would even think of competing with them and they gets things done without a war and gets Taiwan.
Getting Taiwan is the end goal for all paths, the only difference is whether its in 2027 or much later.

I doubt that Taiwan is China's end zone. Well, they have been protesting about Taiwan for a long time. After all, they should have taken it back long ago. It's just that there are other countries that are getting involved in the issue, which, after all, has been over for a long time. They just think to delay it because they saw that Taiwan would be a big factor if there were a large-scale war.

China is also strengthening alliances in preparation in case there are countries that interfere with their taking back Taiwan. In terms of the military, they have also increased their budget here annually, and it seems like they are preparing too much for the approaching possible war.

I can assume that China, or more precisely its current government, or more precisely China's authoritarian government, having destroyed the idea of economic development laid down by Deng Xiaoping, has come to realize that the prospects for China's economy are, to put it mildly, not very positive. You can read the analytics, it's already very noticeable.
The solution to the problem could be, for example, gaining a virtual monopoly on high-tech manufacturing, which is critically important for the whole world. And that is Taiwan.
 The second solution is an old method: distracting the population's attention from internal problems with war. Anything can be blamed on war, plus any harsh measures of government can be introduced. And again, this is Taiwan!
 For ideological manipulation, Taiwan is “China's prodigal son,” and Xi Jinping will “bring him back into the family”! If this works, the first problem will be solved; if not, and a large-scale war begins, the problem will be solved by the second method.
 And without solving the economic problems, there may be a problem with maintaining power, and it is not excluded that the lives of China's ruling elite may be at stake...