Building a 2D platformer gambling game- any ideas is helpful!

[kissag]

As the title, I'm working on a reaction/skill-based PvP game where players try to survive as long as possible, and the last person standing wins everyone else's bets.

Matches are 2-4 players, so max payout multiplier is 4x.

I'd love to share what I've got so far, and if you're into this kind of game, let me know what features/mechanics you'd be most interested in. Thank You!

[Cointxz]

As the title, I'm working on a reaction/skill-based PvP game where players try to survive as long as possible, and the last person standing wins everyone else's bets.

Matches are 2-4 players, so max payout multiplier is 4x.

I'd love to share what I've got so far, and if you're into this kind of game, let me know what features/mechanics you'd be most interested in. Thank You!

This is a nice game if you can make that players will play against real player not an AI since this always the downside on playing a PvP type games online.

I like the Among Us game style PvP that includes mind games and cooperation then later on makes player resort to backstabbing each other just to win the price to make the game doesn’t trust anyone.

Of course there’s a potential danger on this game to the form of collusion with other players.

[julerz12]

I'm intrigued as to what your game would look like. Is it gonna be like Contra, Dead Cells - but in a single arena, or Super Smash Bros.?
As mentioned above by Cointxz, cheating in the matches may happen, so instead of just one arena, maybe make a couple of arenas and randomize the participants on each arena. Then make a big one - battle royale style - last man standing wins, but with 8 to 10 players instead of just 4.

[CONVOAI]

As the title, I'm working on a reaction/skill-based PvP game where players try to survive as long as possible, and the last person standing wins everyone else's bets.

Matches are 2-4 players, so max payout multiplier is 4x.

I'd love to share what I've got so far, and if you're into this kind of game, let me know what features/mechanics you'd be most interested in. Thank You!

Your idea is interesting, but can you share some more details about the gameplay? Or show any demo visuals? Any pictures, gifs, or screenshots?
What skills are actually needed to play this type of game?

[kissag]

This is a nice game if you can make that players will play against real player not an AI since this always the downside on playing a PvP type games online.

I like the Among Us game style PvP that includes mind games and cooperation then later on makes player resort to backstabbing each other just to win the price to make the game doesn’t trust anyone.

Of course there’s a potential danger on this game to the form of collusion with other players.

If possible, most in-game actions will be server-authenticated, plus other anti-cheat tools, so I'm confident cheating will be minimal.

I also think given the skill ceiling of platformer mechanics, AI won't outperform human players, and there'll be offensive items/power-ups to add more competitive depth.

As for collusion, the game will only have random matchmaking based on ELO and bet tiers, so you should theoretically only match with strangers.

I'm intrigued as to what your game would look like. Is it gonna be like Contra, Dead Cells - but in a single arena, or Super Smash Bros.?
As mentioned above by Cointxz, cheating in the matches may happen, so instead of just one arena, maybe make a couple of arenas and randomize the participants on each arena. Then make a big one - battle royale style - last man standing wins, but with 8 to 10 players instead of just 4.

End goal is to make something Fall Guys-style - a party game battle royale vibe where everyone's racing for first. But realistically, that's a ton of work, so I'm starting smaller with a 2D platformer survival setup. Players stay alive in one arena, avoid hazards, and pick up attack items to mess with each other. Since I haven't seen any betting games like this out there, seems like a safer first move.

Your idea is interesting, but can you share some more details about the gameplay? Or show any demo visuals? Any pictures, gifs, or screenshots?
What skills are actually needed to play this type of game?

Right now I've only got the framework done, but as soon as I finish some in-game assets I'll definitely post updates here. My goal is to keep the skill floor as low as possible - controls will just be left/right movement and jump. So it's mainly about testing your reaction(plus some luck, though mostly skill-based).
I'm aiming for the final product to match the quality of a standard buy-to-own idle game (but with betting mechanics, you got my idea).

[memehunter]

As the title, I'm working on a reaction/skill-based PvP game where players try to survive as long as possible, and the last person standing wins everyone else's bets.

Matches are 2-4 players, so max payout multiplier is 4x.

I'd love to share what I've got so far, and if you're into this kind of game, let me know what features/mechanics you'd be most interested in. Thank You!

I can think of a game based on Russian Roullet  . The idea is to take cashout considering probabilities. You can extend the gameplay to more than two people (which would spice things more). Animations and feel of the game must be robust. If you are looking for a complete skill based game, I can suggest some variations of poker.
IMO, it will be more successful if you can maintain the balance between luck and skill (may be 50-50) instead of going down the 100% skill based game development.   

[kissag]

I can think of a game based on Russian Roullet  . The idea is to take cashout considering probabilities. You can extend the gameplay to more than two people (which would spice things more). Animations and feel of the game must be robust. If you are looking for a complete skill based game, I can suggest some variations of poker.
IMO, it will be more successful if you can maintain the balance between luck and skill (may be 50-50) instead of going down the 100% skill based game development.   

Hell ye, My Game will follow 60% skill, 40%luck rule, but at the end, this will be a game where player skill determines the outcome: instinct reflexes and calculation.

[bitbollo]

I am curious to know what are your plans about marketing and if you are doing to do in general any kind of promotion.
From what I am seeing it Is a new game ....if a game was not full tested with real players are you sure people could like or could not collide against players (due the nature itself of a P2P)?

[memehunter]

instinct reflexes

That would be a bumpy road lol. You have to cap frame rates (below 30 or so) and internet connection quality would be a deterrence to many. IMO, reflexes should not be a factor at all, it should be based on strategy and instinctive reactions to opponents move.
 

[kissag]

I am curious to know what are your plans about marketing and if you are doing to do in general any kind of promotion.
From what I am seeing it Is a new game ....if a game was not full tested with real players are you sure people could like or could not collide against players (due the nature itself of a P2P)?

Marketing is still tooo far for me, but my plan is to run a no-deposit/no-withdrawal beta before official launch. This way I can make sure the gameplay is actually engaging and funny even without the betting aspect (which is the ultimate goal anyway). After all, when I first started brainstorming this, "letting players make money" wasn't the main goal. After all, when I first started brainstorming this, "letting players make money" wasn't the main goal. The betting mechanics are more about creating a more intense and high-stakes atmosphere compared to traditional games.

instinct reflexes

That would be a bumpy road lol. You have to cap frame rates (below 30 or so) and internet connection quality would be a deterrence to many. IMO, reflexes should not be a factor at all, it should be based on strategy and instinctive reactions to opponents move.
 

You are absolute right , But skill-based competitive games (FPS, MOBA, racing, etc.) inevitably need low latency. My approach is to make the game framework as latency-tolerant as possible, while using instanced servers with global deployment to minimize ping issues. The matchmaking system will also prioritize pairing players from the same region (just like traditional competitive games).

[cryptoaddictchie]

As the title, I'm working on a reaction/skill-based PvP game where players try to survive as long as possible, and the last person standing wins everyone else's bets.

Matches are 2-4 players, so max payout multiplier is 4x.

I'd love to share what I've got so far, and if you're into this kind of game, let me know what features/mechanics you'd be most interested in. Thank You!

I'm actually curious how this works or what could be the results later on but it's really sounds exciting. Skill based means there's much than just simply toggle go or click. I'm sure you're idea is brilliant but probably this type has been introduced already somewhere or someone got this already and working on it or live now. Have you checked other projects or you referred to the project with this idea?

[kissag]

I'm actually curious how this works or what could be the results later on but it's really sounds exciting. Skill based means there's much than just simply toggle go or click. I'm sure you're idea is brilliant but probably this type has been introduced already somewhere or someone got this already and working on it or live now. Have you checked other projects or you referred to the project with this idea?

I'd highly recommend checking out my previous post (though it got zero replies LOL). Long story short, I spent a few days digging around and found nothing comparable except some web3 games that let you stake NFT items for returns. If anyone can find a counterexample, I'd genuinely appreciate it. Either all similar projects died quietly without a trace, or this really is uncharted territory between traditional gaming and gambling that nobody's explored yet.

[danherbias07]

End goal is to make something Fall Guys-style - a party game battle royale vibe where everyone's racing for first. But realistically, that's a ton of work, so I'm starting smaller with a 2D platformer survival setup. Players stay alive in one arena, avoid hazards, and pick up attack items to mess with each other. Since I haven't seen any betting games like this out there, seems like a safer first move.

Any example of these types of games? I mean, a Nintendo game, or a PS1 game that you can use as an example to give us an idea of what you are trying to build? Something like Quake? Duke Nukem?

I think this will be fun. 2D games are not that heavy in PC games, so there's a chance they can also be played on mobile phones. Let's face it, more gamblers just love to do everything on their phone rather than on their computers. Not just for privacy but also for easy transactions, because a digital cash application can easily be connected to it for easy deposits, too. Almost instant.

[kissag]

End goal is to make something Fall Guys-style - a party game battle royale vibe where everyone's racing for first. But realistically, that's a ton of work, so I'm starting smaller with a 2D platformer survival setup. Players stay alive in one arena, avoid hazards, and pick up attack items to mess with each other. Since I haven't seen any betting games like this out there, seems like a safer first move.

Any example of these types of games? I mean, a Nintendo game, or a PS1 game that you can use as an example to give us an idea of what you are trying to build? Something like Quake? Duke Nukem?

I think this will be fun. 2D games are not that heavy in PC games, so there's a chance they can also be played on mobile phones. Let's face it, more gamblers just love to do everything on their phone rather than on their computers. Not just for privacy but also for easy transactions, because a digital cash application can easily be connected to it for easy deposits, too. Almost instant.

The closest reference in my mind is the Hollow Knight: Silksong in-game mini-game Flea Dodge (but in a much more open space), or Duck Game (you can find it on Steam). I’m planning to build it as a WebGL browser game in Unity. In theory it should be playable on mobile too, but in practice WebGL doesn’t handle mobile browser resolutions very well, so if the project shows real potential, I’ll probably need to make a separate mobile app version.

[SamReomo]

The closest reference in my mind is the Hollow Knight: Silksong in-game mini-game Flea Dodge (but in a much more open space), or Duck Game (you can find it on Steam). I’m planning to build it as a WebGL browser game in Unity. In theory it should be playable on mobile too, but in practice WebGL doesn’t handle mobile browser resolutions very well, so if the project shows real potential, I’ll probably need to make a separate mobile app version.

Hollow Knight seems like a good choice and a game similar to it with betting availability will be loved by most players. I believe it'll be more exciting when you add missions of Contra like games and allow players to compete based on their time and kill monsters. It won't be exactly PVP style but there should be a timer that which ever player finishes the mission or round early may get the reward. That approach is going to be much helpful as well and I believe it's possible to create such a game with WebGL.

[julerz12]

End goal is to make something Fall Guys-style - a party game battle royale vibe where everyone's racing for first. But realistically, that's a ton of work, so I'm starting smaller with a 2D platformer survival setup. Players stay alive in one arena, avoid hazards, and pick up attack items to mess with each other. Since I haven't seen any betting games like this out there, seems like a safer first move.

It certainly is a first. So basically, a somewhat 2d side-scrolling game? 'cause you mention that the players need to avoid hazards.
I'm guessing you'll also be allowing spectators or viewer to place their bets on those players, which I think would be brilliant.
You can either go with a pixelated retro-style design or a picturesque Hollow Knight theme. I personally would prefer the retro-style as it wouldn't be resource-intensive on a mobile device.

[rdluffy]

Right now I've only got the framework done, but as soon as I finish some in-game assets I'll definitely post updates here. My goal is to keep the skill floor as low as possible - controls will just be left/right movement and jump. So it's mainly about testing your reaction(plus some luck, though mostly skill-based).
I'm aiming for the final product to match the quality of a standard buy-to-own idle game (but with betting mechanics, you got my idea).

Really nice
A simple game that is lightweight, runs in browsers, and allows betting could be very successful
Especially with only four players, the chances are very good

How would you make money? With a percentage of the bets? With advertising?
Would it be just one game, or would there be more things on the site, like a casino, for example?

[kissag]

Really nice
A simple game that is lightweight, runs in browsers, and allows betting could be very successful
Especially with only four players, the chances are very good

How would you make money? With a percentage of the bets? With advertising?
Would it be just one game, or would there be more things on the site, like a casino, for example?

My current idea is a 2-3% fee on cash outs. On top of that, can make money from cosmetics like skins，battle passes，and many fancy stuff beside gambling. I'd like to make more thing as possible but now I just focus on the core gameplay first.

[Eternad]

Really nice
A simple game that is lightweight, runs in browsers, and allows betting could be very successful
Especially with only four players, the chances are very good

How would you make money? With a percentage of the bets? With advertising?
Would it be just one game, or would there be more things on the site, like a casino, for example?

My current idea is a 2-3% fee on cash outs. On top of that, can make money from cosmetics like skins，battle passes，and many fancy stuff beside gambling. I'd like to make more thing as possible but now I just focus on the core gameplay first.

This is a nice idea for a P2P games. Many become addicted when the NFT games was release due to its collectible nature same with axie. Adding skin, extra items and other add ons to improve the visual of the game sill be very to attract gamblers since they will be invested on their account aside from gambling.

Having a sample visual for the sake of easy imagining how your game will work help us to provide more insights for game improvements.

I’m looking forward on the game development and maybe this might be use on Bitcointalk sponsored tournaments.

[ryzaadit]

Sorry to say.

In my perspective, I want to tell you PvP Gambling Stuff. Like these, the market was really failed cause seeing so many casino are trying to bring a PVP stuff into the gambling but in the end there is no enough player and revenue are being make.

Regular gambling activity still being dominated by the user. They more prefer like these