what would global deflantion do to Bitcoin?

[Dunamisx]

As we know already that bitcoin cannot be affected by inflation, so we should not expect much from global deflation that being a positive impact to creates for more demand on the adoption and use of bitcoin, and we know what it means, that once there is high demand, the price increases, therefore this should bring a positive impact to the bitcoin market value anytime it may occur.

[TheUltraElite]

Global deflation will never happen, the system is made in a way to make people spend more than they can save and they will continue to print more money, leading to inflation. This is the by-product of the normal human response.

Coming to AI, I dont see much productive use of AI that can reduce inflation, they will still need materials to build stuff and that costs money, along with bills to pay.

Hence I dont see how bitcoin is coming into this, but assuming that things get cheaper, the people who are selling it will take the profit and not reduce prices at all.

[Ivystar5]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

It will do exact same thing it wol do with or without inflation but inflation will help bitcoin become a more solid currency to run to and the store of value of bitcoin is going to make it more better currency over all, people will hold bitcoin more and the price of bitcoin will skyrocket but just know that the worth of whatever will double so if the price of bitcoin doubles the value of products will remain at the same place it is today.

[Pale Knight]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

It will do exact same thing it wol do with or without inflation but inflation will help bitcoin become a more solid currency to run to and the store of value of bitcoin is going to make it more better currency over all, people will hold bitcoin more and the price of bitcoin will skyrocket but just know that the worth of whatever will double so if the price of bitcoin doubles the value of products will remain at the same place it is today.

deflation could hurt bitcoin. if prices drop, people might not want to spend btc. but it depends on adoption. anyway, the store of value aspect matters. not sure how it plays out.

[AmoreJaz]

As we know already that bitcoin cannot be affected by inflation, so we should not expect much from global deflation that being a positive impact to creates for more demand on the adoption and use of bitcoin, and we know what it means, that once there is high demand, the price increases, therefore this should bring a positive impact to the bitcoin market value anytime it may occur.

Bitcoin surpassed a lot of trials already thru the years and though we don't know  what will happen next, but I am sure that one way or another, there will be adaptation in the market. It has been tried in the previous years - defaming btc and yet here we are, btc still standing its ground. Because the truth always comes out. No one is holding the power over btc and no once can totally control its existence. Hence, no single entity can topple the existence of btc. Now that it has proven for years that btc can sustain all those harsh treatments coming from various people.

[Jewan420]

One substantiating narrative for bitcoin is the fiat money's buying power keeps going down. AI-induced abundance can flip that. By that, I mean it might make the fiat money's buying power go up. That's where I was coming from.

This is not happening in such a short time, maybe you have to wait for a few more decades. People are still hardworking and not interested in becoming AI dependent. Maybe in the next few generations everyone will become AI dependent, you mentioned this time!

What would that do to Bitcoin price?

Fiat currency and Bitcoin are two different types of economies and there is no relationship between the two. Especially when it comes to changes, no one affects the other. But when inflation increases, the demand for Bitcoin changes due to excess spending, resulting in a decrease in price. When the purchasing power of Fiat increases, people may have more opportunities to hold Bitcoin, resulting in an increase in price. The price of Bitcoin is mainly dependent on human demand, which is very unpredictable.

[MainIbem]

As we know already that bitcoin cannot be affected by inflation, so we should not expect much from global deflation that being a positive impact to creates for more demand on the adoption and use of bitcoin, and we know what it means, that once there is high demand, the price increases, therefore this should bring a positive impact to the bitcoin market value anytime it may occur.

Bitcoin surpassed a lot of trials already thru the years and though we don't know  what will happen next, but I am sure that one way or another, there will be adaptation in the market.

Does the government want deflation? No I don't think so, which is why they do things like over printing fiat which causes inflation and most of them come up with policies that hinder citizens from embracing Bitcoin or even own the reserve and use it as a hedge against inflation. Yes it's true that Bitcoin has withstand many trials including inflation which is why governments that mean well for it's citizens are buying the reserve and taking down those policies that hinders citizens from owning it. Anyways, Bitcoin has fixed supply and can't be over created like fiat so it can withstand deflation as well.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

I adhere to the four-year cycle concept and perhaps this is because when supply decreases, intrinsic value and purchasing power increase, but that doesn't mean price declines won't occur in subsequent periods. This is different from other tokens, as many have experienced deflation over the past five years and struggled to recover. I don't see this happening with Bitcoin and perhaps that's why people hold Bitcoin for long-term investment. The short-term impact may be valid and almost all forms of investment experience this, but we're looking at the issue of growth and how an asset can survive long-term without being affected by deflation.

[Bitcoin_people]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

It is not appropriate to compare Bitcoin with a completely different AI token. As you mentioned, if this happens, the price of Bitcoin as a whole will become even more bullish. Moreover, Bitcoin has a limited supply, no one can increase it if they want, but all other tokens or currencies can be increased if they want. When a government creates additional notes, inflation will definitely occur, but its effect will not be felt in Bitcoin at all. The supply of Bitcoin is 21 million, which will not increase and as a result, its demand will increase and the price will increase rapidly. In that case, the AI tokens will be destroyed, but Bitcoin will never be destroyed, rather Bitcoin will improve and become more valuable.

[Aloysius01]

What would that do to Bitcoin price?

In five years, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bitcoin at $500k. ^{( this is what I SEE with my crystal ball).}

People need to stop thinking Bitcoin will move the same way as traditional markets or be dragged down by economic conditions. It’s not directly tied to them, and it’s not easy to manipulate either. Keep it simple and just follow the trend.

Whatever negative impact people are worried about will most likely hit fiat harder, not Bitcoin.

so considering your AI token/robot post, that's my respond.

That is a fair take and it fits the long term Bitcoin mindset pretty well, Too many people still try to analyze BTC like it is a stock index or a company balance sheet, when it really doesn't behave that way most of the time, The 500k call might sound crazy to some but if you zoom out and look at adoption, supply dynamics and the fact that fiat keeps getting diluted it is imposible at all, Bitcoin has a history of doing things people says can't happen until they suddenly do, I also agree that most serious economic stress scenarios, fiat is usually the first thing to take the real hit Bitcoin may be volatile in the short term, but long term it tends to recover and push higher while fiat just quietly loses purchasing power.

[Cryptomultiplier]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

It is not appropriate to compare Bitcoin with a completely different AI token. As you mentioned, if this happens, the price of Bitcoin as a whole will become even more bullish. Moreover, Bitcoin has a limited supply, no one can increase it if they want, but all other tokens or currencies can be increased if they want. When a government creates additional notes, inflation will definitely occur, but its effect will not be felt in Bitcoin at all. The supply of Bitcoin is 21 million, which will not increase and as a result, its demand will increase and the price will increase rapidly. In that case, the AI tokens will be destroyed, but Bitcoin will never be destroyed, rather Bitcoin will improve and become more valuable.

I think Bitcoin is by design a deflationary asset, which is often cited as a speculative asset and thus, a global deflation might make the current price of Bitcoin not go above the $100k margin for a while, unless the G7 nations follow suit and hold Bitcoin as a reserve asset, thus reducing its high volatility and making it more of a currency and digital gold, rather than it being classed as a speculative asset.

[pawanjain]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

As far as fiat is being used the government will keep printing money. I don't think AI will be able to help in this case.
So as long as the government is printing money the inflation will keep rising.
Lets just assume what you are saying will occur in future, although definitely not in 5 years but may be 50 years still it won't impact bitcoin.
The only change that will happen with bitcoin is that we will see a drastic surge in bitcoin price.

[snowpega]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

Everyone has their own point of view, and if I have to share my point of view with you, then I would say it all depends on what will be the kind of situation or condition we will have at that time, and it is more concerned about the market demand and supply fundamentals. I mean, in case if that time the demands will be high, then it is sure the price of bitcoin will be sitting on the edge of sky, and if not, then I can say anything so surely right now, but the chances of the first condition are probably high. DYOR!

The coming five year is still a bullish time frame for the bitcoin price, as I can say that the adoption of bitcoin will increase more in the coming five years, which, as a result, the price of bitcoin will also increase. Just keep in mind that one thing, "the more will be demanded, the bigger the price of bitcoin will be, and it will also reduce the circulation supply in the market" and this will appreciate the price of bitcoin to more upper level. DYOR!

[Antotena]

That is a fair take and it fits the long term Bitcoin mindset pretty well, Too many people still try to analyze BTC like it is a stock index or a company balance sheet, when it really doesn't behave that way most of the time, The 500k call might sound crazy to some but if you zoom out and look at adoption, supply dynamics and the fact that fiat keeps getting diluted it is imposible at all, Bitcoin has a history of doing things people says can't happen until they suddenly do, I also agree that most serious economic stress scenarios, fiat is usually the first thing to take the real hit Bitcoin may be volatile in the short term, but long term it tends to recover and push higher while fiat just quietly loses purchasing power.

We might have more than that because in 5 years, we are going to have another US election and I'm sure a republican is going to win again. I might not like the way he is operational about ICE and other things going on in the country but I will not be blindfolded like what happened during the last time they spread propaganda about him. He is going to finish well and another Republican that us going to support Bitcoin will emerge and Bitcoin will do better again.

I just don't like the kind of regulations I'm seeing been pushed by some countries, saw one In Russia that is completely ridiculous, saw another one in US and it seems abandoned for now, no vote was passed. If we want crypto regulations, it has to be a friendly one else nobody will want that approval, even the big tech centralized services will not accept them because it's going to push them out of the market, the power will be shifting to the government, that will make crypto worse.

[FortuneFollower]

As we know already that bitcoin cannot be affected by inflation, so we should not expect much from global deflation that being a positive impact to creates for more demand on the adoption and use of bitcoin, and we know what it means, that once there is high demand, the price increases, therefore this should bring a positive impact to the bitcoin market value anytime it may occur.

Bitcoin surpassed a lot of trials already thru the years and though we don't know  what will happen next, but I am sure that one way or another, there will be adaptation in the market.

You mean adaptation to any situation that may come?

[Abiky]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

5 years? That's a little too soon. Don't you think? I doubt AI and the robotics revolution is going to result in massive deflation for the economy. This will not prove to be beneficial for the government in any way. On the contrary, a deflationary economy will make people gain greater purchasing power. It's in governments' best interests to keep printing more money (inflation) to manipulate the economy whichever way they want to.

Sure, AI and robots will reduce the cost of goods and/or services. But inflation will always be there no matter what. I assume inflation will lower to a point where it's sustainable enough for the economy. Something like 2% - 3% inflation will do. Just like the rates the US had before the COVID-19 pandemic. As far as Bitcoin is concerned, a deflationary Fiat currency will result in a severe decline of BTC's monetary value. The inverse happens when Fiat turns inflationary. I could be wrong, though.

[free-bit.co.in]

As we know already that bitcoin cannot be affected by inflation, so we should not expect much from global deflation that being a positive impact to creates for more demand on the adoption and use of bitcoin, and we know what it means, that once there is high demand, the price increases, therefore this should bring a positive impact to the bitcoin market value anytime it may occur.

Bitcoin is not affected by inflation, and that is why people invest in or need Bitcoin. They believe it can help them cope with inflation. Conversely, in a deflationary economy, the purchasing power of fiat currency increases, and the demand for safe haven assets or inflation hedges decreases. Therefore, it would be inaccurate to assume that Bitcoin could still increase in value in a deflationary economy.

However, the scenario of a deflationary economy will never happen.

[Minor Miner]

Does the government want deflation? No I don't think so, which is why they do things like over printing fiat which causes inflation and most of them come up with policies that hinder citizens from embracing Bitcoin or even own the reserve and use it as a hedge against inflation. Yes it's true that Bitcoin has withstand many trials including inflation which is why governments that mean well for it's citizens are buying the reserve and taking down those policies that hinders citizens from owning it. Anyways, Bitcoin has fixed supply and can't be over created like fiat so it can withstand deflation as well.

Wrong. Bitcoin's fixed supply is only effective in combating inflation, not deflation. 
Deflation means that the purchasing power of fiat increases, and people will tend to hold fiat instead of spending or investing. This means that demand for bitcoin will decrease, leading to a price drop and a fixed supply will not help in this case.

The fixed supply of Bitcoin only prevent its value from being diluted because no one can print more Bitcoin. But its price still depend on supply and demand, and if demand decreases. Its price will inevitably decrease.

[X-ray]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

I'm not even sure that gonna happen in 20 years let alone 5 years. if robot creates pancakes and basically put millions of people out of job. Isn't that basically job crisis?

Moreover the reason money have inflation is because government keep printing it.

As for bitcoin, since it's already deflationary, it will become even more deflationary because it got the benefit of capped total supply unlike money even in that scenario.

[HustleZ]

When AI token costs go near zero and AI robots make products like pancakes, everything will become so cheap. When that happens in 5 years, inflation will become a thing of the past. What would that do to Bitcoin price?

It's certain that won't happen and if it is going to happen it will certainly not be this quick. 5 years is not a long time to make inflation a thing of the Past. Inflation is embedded in the structure of modern economies because of the constant increase in population which leads to increase in human needs for money continuously. If for the sake of the argument we Say that Deflation has happened then I believe Bitcoin will become even more valuable considering its fixed supply which naturally aligns with deflationary demands where people often save rather than spend and Bitcoin with its fixed supply acts as a store of value much like gold.