Hidden Authoritarianism in Western Countries

[Whiteronin]

As I understand it, Western democracy is an illusion; the Western countries are ruled by the financial aristocracy. This works as follows: if a problem arises in society, the elite, represented by parliamentarians, passes laws to solve it; but these laws simultaneously serve another purpose—increasing the wealth and power of the elite. In particular, these laws are always aimed at suppressing small businesses, because small businessmen are less dependent on the government and can overthrow it.
I have a couple of examples, but I apologize for not fact-checking everything thoroughly; I hope someone here can help me with this:
1) I saw an interview on Euronews, in which it was said that agricultural subsidies in the European Union always help large agricultural holdings more than small farmers;
2) One blogger wrote about how laws aimed to combat global warming (greenhouse gas emission quotas) in New Zealand similarly benefit large agricultural holdings and lead to the ruin of small farmers.
Please comment my examples and suggest any others.

[BADecker]

Look at the foundational law in Great Britain. It's the Magna Carta. This document was an attempt by the people to do two things:
1. Keep government in its place to do the things government should
2. while allowing freedom for the people.

The Magna Carta still works, today. The only thing government has against it is to use words to play on the greed of common people so that the people don't use the Magna Carta any longer... even though they could.

In the US they did it different. They placed it right into the Constitution. But the same here. If the people don't look at what government is doing, they will be tricked out of the strength of their own Constitution.

In America, there now exists the Private Membership Association (PMA), even though privacy has existed all along. The PMA is simply the way that people forced government to remain in its place, government working with public things rather than private things.

People can use the PMA to do just about any not-harmful thing, and do it outside of government control. The PMA is a US thing. It's time for the people of the UK to strengthen their Magna Carta with a new form of it... a form that makes government hands-off the people, again. But the people can't do it if they don't wake up to the fact that protests are the wrong way to go about it.

[JeromeTash]

Exactly, western democracy is an illusion. I wish more and more people could see this. If you look at what is happening around the world with countries (especially former colonies) that have been trying to practice the so-called type of politics. It's all a mess. We have coups, unending civil wars, regimes built out of election violence, and malpractices, among other things.

There is a big divide between the common people and the political class in most countries around the world, and I believe we need a total reset.

[Hispo]

So if western democracy is so bad, then let us talk about alternatives.
China and Russia are the most visible alternatives to western democracy, which are pushed by the United States and Europe. There is not actual democracy in China and Russia, both are autocracies which crush all opposition in their territories.

I would rather to have a country which constantly changes of leader instead or turning into something like China and Russia are, countries where their leaders have intentions for perpetuate themselves the rest of their life in power.

Democracy is not perfect and also it is fragile, and it continues to be the best system of governance, specially if it is direct democracy instead of representative democracy.

[BADecker]

So if western democracy is so bad, then let us talk about alternatives.
China and Russia are the most visible alternatives to western democracy, which are pushed by the United States and Europe. There is not actual democracy in China and Russia, both are autocracies which crush all opposition in their territories.

I would rather to have a country which constantly changes of leader instead or turning into something like China and Russia are, countries where their leaders have intentions for perpetuate themselves the rest of their life in power.

Democracy is not perfect and also it is fragile, and it continues to be the best system of governance, specially if it is direct democracy instead of representative democracy.

Western Democracy is strong as long as it is supported by a real Republic. If it is not so supported, it becomes a Dictatorship.

[EluguHcman]

I have a couple of examples, but I apologize for not fact-checking everything thoroughly; I hope someone here can help me with this:
1) I saw an interview on Euronews, in which it was said that agricultural subsidies in the European Union always help large agricultural holdings more than small farmers;
2) One blogger wrote about how laws aimed to combat global warming (greenhouse gas emission quotas) in New Zealand similarly benefit large agricultural holdings and lead to the ruin of small farmers.
Please comment my examples and suggest any others.

That one is possible even in a nutshell. Governments creating empowerments on the Agriculture level, larger sectors will always be in demand to require more concentrations at the height of providing them with Agricultural amenities to support their productions because they believe the big factories or farms are the sustainable to make consumable or essential demands available for the communities at large.

So in the process small scales may be downgraded but whoever finding it worthless is making a big mistake because it is also one of those gradual processes that arrives to the big scales Agricultures.
They can of course provide for small scales of demands even though it can not sustain widely.

[Tipstar]

Anacyclosis is a theory put forward by Greek Philosopher Polybius years before the birth of Christianity.
The theory claims each society moves through a cycle of phases, between Kingship, Tyranny, Aristocracy, Oligarchy, Democracy and Mob rule.
Some are a bit more stable, some skips some phases or have variations but the fact that society changes and not always to good path is still true for all societies.

[BADecker]

Anacyclosis is a theory put forward by Greek Philosopher Polybius years before the birth of Christianity.
The theory claims each society moves through a cycle of phases, between Kingship, Tyranny, Aristocracy, Oligarchy, Democracy and Mob rule.
Some are a bit more stable, some skips some phases or have variations but the fact that society changes and not always to good path is still true for all societies.

If you keep your head screwed on, and your eyes and ears open, you can find a path through just about anything. Watch the movie Schindler's List - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/?ref_=nm_knf_t_2.

[Kelward]

You cannot remove class from any society and the political class and the super rich will do anything to remain at the top so there is always a collaboration between them to throw crumbs at the masses bellow to keep them happy. One of my uncles always says that " leaders makes laws and if the laws starts to go against them they will change such laws" it means that laws are actually meant to suit those at the top. Why do you think politicians will tell lies and do everything possible to enter power and stay as long as possible at the top? It is because they get to play gods over the entire people bellow them, even in the so called democracies you will still find traces of authoritarianism. Yet authoritarianism is very much present in underdeveloped countries than Europe and America.

[Whiteronin]

Exactly, western democracy is an illusion. I wish more and more people could see this. If you look at what is happening around the world with countries (especially former colonies) that have been trying to practice the so-called type of politics. It's all a mess. We have coups, unending civil wars, regimes built out of election violence, and malpractices, among other things.

There is a big divide between the common people and the political class in most countries around the world, and I believe we need a total reset.

Maybe you have views similar to mine, but I have one more question to clarify this: where, as you think, is more democracy now - in USA or Europe?