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January 22, 2026, 01:20:13 PM
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Encouraging strongman politics.
Ever since returning to the white house Trump has acted as a strong man and not as a Democratically elected president which should solve the problems of the masses which elected him as president. But instead Trump has acted as a strong man this could be clearly seen in the way he has kidnapped the president of Venezuela, and the use of Military actions against sovereign states under any guise of any name he may decide to call it when he wants to do anything.
Bullshit, one has nothing to do with the other. You can act as a strongman and still work on the problems of the masses. In fact, they have delivered on most of the promises that they have made during the election -- much more than Biden did, and definitely much more than that deranged horse Kamala could deliver. The democratic party is lost, and the parties in the country where you are -- whatever it is -- are for sure worse than republicans.  Smiley

Weakening global alliances.
This could be seen in his relationship with even his key allies such as NATO member states like the situation that we are seeing in Greenland were Trump and his NATO allies differing in Ideas and standpoint which has triggered a military influx of NATO member military personnel into the Ireland.
What about it? Most of these relationships were mainly one sided, the US footing the bill and the other side not appreciating it enough. If someone is paying for your existence, you better respect them and do what they tell you otherwise you will suffer the consequences of your misplaced bravado.

Unpredictability with military power.
Trump has become so unpredictable that you may not know which actions that he may take the next minutes and this is not good for world peace. As this could trigger anger among other nations which has been the cause of previous world wars .
Again, what about it? Who's going to trigger a world war against the current US? Roll Eyes

Escalation over diplomacy.
Trump has always backed on the superior military might of the united states of America in his relationship with other nations states as he has not shown any respects to other nations leaders as he has openly abused international leaders and nations . This is not good for world peace because any world leader who seems to disagree with his policies is seen as a threat to him.
This is correct, if you are weak you should shut up and obey. If you are powerful only then can you compete with the powerful. Learn your place in the world.

Undermining international institutions.
Trump has undermined international law as he has not followed due process in what ever that he does, The placing of the tariffs on other countries and most recently the band on other countries coming into the united states, this will affect the world cup which is slated to be hosted by the united states of America. This band means that nations which has qualified for the world cup may not participate because trump has played a band on such countries making it difficult for the fans of such countries to get into the united states.Trump is seen as a threat to world peace from his actions and policies  because world peace depends on stability, trust, and rules and he often disrupts all three at once.
Wrong, if you believe in international institutions you are just a naive idiot. All of these institutions are seriously biased and corrupt, they were long before Trump even entered the politician scene. That he is escalating the matters in this does not mean that he is the cause of it.

it is scary because us might become a role model for others to just do things without considering the rules

if us starts it, other nations might follow and who knows what will result to each nation doing whatever they want? from the tariffs alone, other nations might take a page out of usa's rulebook and do the same to other countries and especially to the us back

there are already a lot of nations who are actually ignoring international laws but have got away with it
Wrong, that is a good thing. If you believed in any "rules", you are an idiot and you most certainly do not understand Bitcoin. Rules that are derived from abstract powers are meaningless, and only serve as a feel-good measure for the dumbest common denominator of humans. "The government will handle this"!  Roll Eyes

On the contrary, there are some actions Trump has taken that has little to no economic value to the US while also seemingly profiting from such actions.
1. He accepted a "gift" in form of a Boeing jumbo jet from Qatar. The jet would likely be transferred to his personal library when he leaves office.
2. He has destroyed the east wing of the white house to build a large ballroom. He claims its privately funded.
3. Ran a campaign on no new wars/ending existing conflicts and wars which was overwhelmingly accepted by the people only to conveniently forget after winning the election.
4. He has his own meme coin and has promoted it, prompting it to increase its value and his net worth.
5. Claims to want to stop drug trafficking into the US but goes ahead to pardon a high profile convicted drug trafficker, a former president of Honduras.
Every single point is wrong, stop reading bullshit headlines and use your head.
1. Accepting gifts is not "undertaking actions", accepting a gift is not an action.
2. He would not be the first president to change the white house, and this does not give him profit in any way.
3. Wrong, he has neither started a new war nor has he forgotten about it. They talked about this many times and he has tried to broker many peace deals since he came into office. Anyway, this does not give him profit -- his professional background is not the military industrial complex.
4. What has this got to do with it? Any other profitable or business activity that he does could be considered under this in general,  it makes no sense to bring this up as this is not a presidential activity.
5. Neither does he personally benefit from this, you are contradicting yourself with your lies.

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January 22, 2026, 01:25:54 PM
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Should we rather blame power and influence than his personality, because even if by tomorrow he seize to be the President of the United States, things will always be the same as always, US think they have the power and can make their stand to hold, but i like them for one thing, they know where to display all these, you cant see them mediocre around Russia or China for anything, so they know what they are doing.

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January 22, 2026, 03:17:01 PM
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All I know is, he is doing it all for his country, and I think it's not a bad kind of action. He is a patriot, and a lot of Americans do support him because of that.

Now, other countries would probably not like that because it sounds selfish and power hungry. But they are known as one of the strongest countries in the world, so he is trying to keep that reputation. I am not a Trump supporter, but I don't hate him. I believe he is just an honest guy who doesn't like telling lies in front of the camera, although I think he will need a good PR to keep the statements clean, and probably won't hurt other feelings that keep on hurting his reputation in other countries.

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January 22, 2026, 05:19:43 PM
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If I may asked, is Trump not having adviser on his carbinet? I believe an action seen by people is coming from the adviser wing to trumps and there is no smoke without fire before this step is taking there must be some unrevealed reason while they have decided to position before country like China or Russian will take position before them in Greenland, been the world power they are calculate far in upholding what makes them that world power in unthinkable measure that may seen strategic even when it may not please everyone because human can't be please in all aspects to retain their power.

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January 22, 2026, 10:12:32 PM
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The real threat isn't that he's unpredictable. It's that he's actually very predictable once you understand the pattern and most people don't want to. Because it requires accepting some of the uncomfortable things about how power actually works and how it is not how we would like it to work. He works by transactional logic applied to geopolitics. Historically that doesn't end well but also historically that's how a majority of empires have actually functioned when you strip away the mythology. We've created these horribly complex international systems and they only function if everybody feigns belief in them. The minute that someone in power stops pretending the whole thing falls apart as fragile as it always was.

Trump isn't causing instability he's exposing instability that was already there which is why it's so unsettling to watch. That strongman politics stuff? Not new. What's new is openly doing it without all the diplomatic fencing around everybody feeling better about what's going on. Previous administrations did plenty of questionable things internationally but it was couched in language about democracy and human rights. Trump just skips that part - more honest in a twisted way but also more dangerous because it gives permission to other leaders to drop the pretense too.

He's speeding up a process which began decades ago, and nobody wanted to acknowledge.

 
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January 22, 2026, 10:51:50 PM
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Quote from: Olotu20
Donald trump the president of the United States of America is today the biggest threats to world peace if you ask me. Because from his first term as president he has always acted against international law and even against the constitution of the United States of America. We can see this in his policies which he has implemented, most especially in his return to the white house as a president under his second term. Trump has threaten world peace because of how his style, policies, and unpredictability affect a fragile global system.
The concerns regarding the impact of contemporary American foreign policy on global stability are certainly shared by many who value long-standing international alliances and the rule of law. The shift toward a more isolationist or strongman approach represents a significant departure from the traditional role of the United States as a stabilizing force in global diplomacy. When international institutions and treaties are undermined by unpredictable shifts in policy, it creates a power vacuum that can lead to increased regional tensions and a breakdown of the collective security agreements that have largely prevented major global conflicts for decades.

Furthermore, the escalation of rhetoric over diplomacy and the use of unilateral actions, such as aggressive tariffs or military positioning, fundamentally disrupts the trust required for a functional global economy and peaceful co-existence. A stable world order relies on the consistent application of rules and the respect for sovereign nations, rather than a system dictated by the superior military or economic might of a single nation. For many observers, the return to such an unpredictable style of leadership serves as a stark reminder of how fragile international peace can be when domestic political shifts begin to outweigh global responsibilities and cooperation.
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January 22, 2026, 11:42:06 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2026, 11:50:46 PM by coupable
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Should we rather blame power and influence than his personality, because even if by tomorrow he seize to be the President of the United States, things will always be the same as always, US think they have the power and can make their stand to hold, but i like them for one thing, they know where to display all these, you cant see them mediocre around Russia or China for anything, so they know what they are doing.
They play with Russia and China and this play is displayed in many places in the world. The USA already supporting Taiwan against China and Ukraine against Russia. And this is not related to Donald Trump in particular because all the USA presidents worked according to an agenda set by dominant lobbies and intelligence agencies. This is not a plan made by Trump as we say his precedent Biden supported Ukraine against Russia and didn't a peaceful trade relation with China.



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January 23, 2026, 08:45:38 PM
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Should we rather blame power and influence than his personality, because even if by tomorrow he seize to be the President of the United States, things will always be the same as always, US think they have the power and can make their stand to hold, but i like them for one thing, they know where to display all these, you cant see them mediocre around Russia or China for anything, so they know what they are doing.
You mean to say ceases to be the President of the United States, because the verb to seize means something else entirely. You are right though, this isn't only about Trump although he is perhaps display the power of the US more than the average president. When Trump is gone this is not going to stop, and many that are deranged and biased by Trump fail to see this. Even if we impeached Trump today ultimately it won't change anything. The "allies" will lead us into a war one way or another because many of those countries such as the EU ones are led by completely braindead idiots. Just look what they did with the Ukraine nonsense, luckily Russia is constrained and is not ruled by deranged people right now otherwise we would be in a nuclear winter and there would be no Europe at all. People who play confidently but are weaklings are often those that get punished the hardest for their foolishness. If Russia was run by someone completely deranged with nothing to lose, they would have launched nukes in every direction because why not? If I am going down, or if I am crazy -- I might as well take you down with me. We are very lucky that history has not led us to this yet, even though many European leaders have actively pushed us in this direction. European cucks are similar to dogs, the smallest and weakest ones tend to bark the most.  Cheesy Cheesy

All I know is, he is doing it all for his country, and I think it's not a bad kind of action. He is a patriot, and a lot of Americans do support him because of that.

Now, other countries would probably not like that because it sounds selfish and power hungry. But they are known as one of the strongest countries in the world, so he is trying to keep that reputation. I am not a Trump supporter, but I don't hate him. I believe he is just an honest guy who doesn't like telling lies in front of the camera, although I think he will need a good PR to keep the statements clean, and probably won't hurt other feelings that keep on hurting his reputation in other countries.
Every President should put their own people and country first. There is no room to focus on any illegals or whatever else stupidity is going on. Illegals should have no benefits at all, and they should be locked up into prisons indefinitely if they are unable to be returned home -- fuck them, they are the lowest of the low scum. A great country such as the US should only import highly qualified immigrants and welcome those with open arms. Meanwhile we have sanctuary places for criminal illegals while at the same time we have many Americans who are sick in a variety of ways, homeless and whatnot. They are the ones that need our help and we are wasting money on some other people. It is a joke, but this trend can be seen in other places too.

The real threat isn't that he's unpredictable. It's that he's actually very predictable once you understand the pattern and most people don't want to. Because it requires accepting some of the uncomfortable things about how power actually works and how it is not how we would like it to work. He works by transactional logic applied to geopolitics. Historically that doesn't end well but also historically that's how a majority of empires have actually functioned when you strip away the mythology. We've created these horribly complex international systems and they only function if everybody feigns belief in them. The minute that someone in power stops pretending the whole thing falls apart as fragile as it always was.

Trump isn't causing instability he's exposing instability that was already there which is why it's so unsettling to watch. That strongman politics stuff? Not new. What's new is openly doing it without all the diplomatic fencing around everybody feeling better about what's going on. Previous administrations did plenty of questionable things internationally but it was couched in language about democracy and human rights. Trump just skips that part - more honest in a twisted way but also more dangerous because it gives permission to other leaders to drop the pretense too.

He's speeding up a process which began decades ago, and nobody wanted to acknowledge.
Abstract power is meaningless, but many people are weaklings who are afraid to accept reality for what it is. That is why we have not yet witnessed a wider collapse in these institutions and things, because there are many idiots who believe in the system. Some even want the state to become the biggest possible, those should be executed by a guillotine. Democracy was a mistake, stupid people should have no vote. Let's pray that democracy does not become our undoing before the wider population realizes this.

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January 23, 2026, 10:02:52 PM
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All I know is, he is doing it all for his country, and I think it's not a bad kind of action. He is a patriot, and a lot of Americans do support him because of that.

Hitler, too, was a patriot, and everything he did was for his country. The fact that a person is a patriot doesn't mean whatever he does for his country is the right thing. A person may want what is best for his country, but what he wants is not actually best for his country. The same person might be patriotic, but the way he carries out his actions may not be what is best for his country. In his own view, he is doing what is best.

Talking about a lot of Americans supporting him. There will always be people who will support a person as long as you can get them to love you, and support you as long as you say what they want to hear. People still support Kim Jong-un in North Korea. People support Ali Khamenei in Iran, and people supported and died for Hitler.
The point is, the fact that a person has a lot of supporters doesn't mean he is right.


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Trump has a positive role, which is that he has shown that there are no "rules" (and there never were). Now it should be clear to any leader of any country what to focus on in foreign policy - only on strength. Because Trump will take away more and more of the conditional "Greenlands" over time, even from his "allies."
Well said, Trump has a positive role, and that is, he is exposing the double-standard character of modern imperialism. 
Europe has always supported the imperialist character of America, but they have not been attacked so far. Now, when America has its eyes on Greenland i.e. Donald Trump has its eyes on it, they themselves are calling Donald Trump a threat to world peace.

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January 24, 2026, 11:52:35 AM
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All I know is, he is doing it all for his country, and I think it's not a bad kind of action. He is a patriot, and a lot of Americans do support him because of that.
Hitler, too, was a patriot, and everything he did was for his country. The fact that a person is a patriot doesn't mean whatever he does for his country is the right thing. A person may want what is best for his country, but what he wants is not actually best for his country. The same person might be patriotic, but the way he carries out his actions may not be what is best for his country. In his own view, he is doing what is best.

Talking about a lot of Americans supporting him. There will always be people who will support a person as long as you can get them to love you, and support you as long as you say what they want to hear. People still support Kim Jong-un in North Korea. People support Ali Khamenei in Iran, and people supported and died for Hitler.
The point is, the fact that a person has a lot of supporters doesn't mean he is right.
Nobody has claimed this, and what you are using as an argumentation line here is correct -- but it is entirely useless. It can be used for anything and everything. If the politician is a not patriot, it does not mean whatever he does for his country is the wrong/right thing. If the politician is a patriot/republican/democrat it does not mean whatever he does for his country is the right thing. These generic counter-arguments are pointless, as they are missing the point. When looking at it from a complete perspective, any politician that is a patriot is better than a politician who is not -- those who aren't, shouldn't even be allowed to serve the public office and should be executed as traitor. The government of a country has one primary duty, and that is its duty to the citizens in accordance with the constitutions and all laws that derive from that. Any politician that puts other people first, such as immigrants or worse, illegals, is a malicious individual -- no amount of virtue signalling will change that. You have many such corrupt example, such as that deranged Ilhan Omar in the US.

If things continue this way, and they don't get resolved with sanity -- then extreme measures must be applied. A constitutional amendment that requires only prioritization of its own citizens, and everything else (supporting, importing and whatever else handouts to migrants and illegals) should be punishable by speedy execution. That should be the starting measure, we don't need these traitors and they don't need to continue their lives either. The world is better off without them, and legal execution is the proper way to do it. If you look at the EU, most of the leading parties and politicians are working against the native population of that continent. It seems to me, that not being patriotic, tends to be much more correlated with doing things that are not right for the country.  Wink

Trump has a positive role, which is that he has shown that there are no "rules" (and there never were). Now it should be clear to any leader of any country what to focus on in foreign policy - only on strength. Because Trump will take away more and more of the conditional "Greenlands" over time, even from his "allies."
Well said, Trump has a positive role, and that is, he is exposing the double-standard character of modern imperialism.  
Europe has always supported the imperialist character of America, but they have not been attacked so far. Now, when America has its eyes on Greenland i.e. Donald Trump has its eyes on it, they themselves are calling Donald Trump a threat to world peace.
They don't mind it if he does it to someone who they don't like as long as it is not them. If it involves them, then suddenly there is an issue. This is the classic hypocrisy of the idiots that run most European countries. They do deserve to lose their sovereignty and they need a good dose of freedom. That would, however, have a very negative impact on the markets.  Cheesy

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Donald trump the president of the United States of America is today the biggest threats to world peace if you ask me. Because from his first term as president he has always acted against international law and even against the constitution of the United States of America. We can see this in his policies which he has implemented, most especially in his return to the white house as a president under his second term.  Trump has threaten world peace because of how his style, policies, and unpredictability affect a fragile global system .

Encouraging strongman politics.
Ever since returning to the white house Trump has acted as a strong man and not as a Democratically elected president which should solve the problems of the masses which elected him as president. But instead Trump has acted as a strong man this could be clearly seen in the way he has kidnapped the president of Venezuela, and the use of Military actions against sovereign states under any guise of any name he may decide to call it when he wants to do anything.

Weakening global alliances.
This could be seen in his relationship with even his key allies such as NATO member states like the situation that we are seeing in Greenland were Trump and his NATO allies differing in Ideas and standpoint which has triggered a military influx of NATO member military personnel into the Ireland.

Unpredictability with military power.
Trump has become so unpredictable that you may not know which actions that he may take the next minutes and this is not good for world peace. As this could trigger anger among other nations which has been the cause of previous world wars .

Escalation over diplomacy.
Trump has always backed on the superior military might of the united states of America in his relationship with other nations states as he has not shown any respects to other nations leaders as he has openly abused international leaders and nations . This is not good for world peace because any world leader who seems to disagree with his policies is seen as a threat to him.

Undermining international institutions.
Trump has undermined international law as he has not followed due process in what ever that he does, The placing of the tariffs on other countries and most recently the band on other countries coming into the united states, this will affect the world cup which is slated to be hosted by the united states of America. This band means that nations which has qualified for the world cup may not participate because trump has played a band on such countries making it difficult for the fans of such countries to get into the united states.Trump is seen as a threat to world peace from his actions and policies  because world peace depends on stability, trust, and rules and he often disrupts all three at once.


Trump does not pose a direct threat. He is a “business cowboy,” so he will not take any risky moves, although he will talk about them. This is typical of some mentally unstable and somewhat inadequate leaders/politicians—they threaten to “redivide the world,” “destroy everyone with nuclear strikes,” and other such scare tactics. We have already seen how Trump “on the fly” imposed inadequate tariffs on everyone, but then, after receiving retaliatory measures, quickly backed down. His ‘cowboy’ style of influence only works well with weak or not very thoughtful players; it's a kind of “to bluff” Smiley
The same goes for Greenland — yesterday he was bragging about taking it over, today he's already offering money.  I get the impression that Trump has decided to play the “King of the World,” where everyone must obey him because he is great, he is God's representative on earth, he is omnipotent and immortal Smiley
Moreover, for him, the loss of power is essentially synonymous with the end of his life, as he has a huge number of “skeletons in the closet” that will be exposed as soon as Trump loses power.

Conclusion: in my opinion, his behavior will lead to the following consequences
- the creation of new alliances (political/economic/military)
- the weakening of the US on the world stage (who wants to deal with an inadequate ruler?)
- the loss of partners or a cooling of relations (the EU, Britain, Canada, and other countries)


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They don't mind it if he does it to someone who they don't like as long as it is not them. If it involves them, then suddenly there is an issue. This is the classic hypocrisy of the idiots that run most European countries. They do deserve to lose their sovereignty and they need a good dose of freedom. That would, however, have a very negative impact on the markets.  Cheesy
That's what I said, the two-faced policies of Western civilization are being revealed to the whole world, at least for Trump. When America-Israel creates unrest in the Middle East, they support it, whether it is ethical or unethical, but now that the gun is pointed at them, they have started to open their mouths.
Anyway, I would still say that in this time the European countries might not be do the same mistake they do during World War II that they go agianst the hitler lately but here we saw, But we can already see that Europe is able to somewhat restrain the Americans by exerting economic pressure, I think they will intensify these measures if Donald Trump doesn't turn his attention to Greenland.

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January 24, 2026, 09:18:19 PM
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Trump turns a threat to some countries because they cannot compete with how powerful Trump is. So instead of liking and appreciating him, these countries have seen him as a threat and might as well planning some silent attacks.

But personally, Trump is just trying to lead his country on what he thinks he's right. And if he sees his country is being taken advantage of, he will not let it pass but will sanction those will try to do so.

He is not a threat to a world peace, but the reactions he get from other leaders are definitely the threat to peace. And Trump is highly aware of that.

 
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January 24, 2026, 10:46:46 PM
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You have explained the important points here, of course there are pros and cons, some people must have arguments to support Trump actions, some others criticize, after all Trump did it for the benefit of the country and its allies. My personal view is simple, Trump is not a threat because he is 'strong', but because he makes power without rules a natural thing.
And a world led by power without rules is a world much closer to conflict.
The President of the United States of America has always known to be more powerful than other country's leaders. And Trump is one of them, so I don't see this as a new one why they all hate Trump and criticize his way of managing his people and his country. He is just a leader trying to protect his people, and any leader who aims to promote the welfare for everyone will also behave like Trump did.

He is not a threat, but those who want to gain the same power are clearly the threat. Well, everyone can be a threat once you crossed the line.

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January 24, 2026, 11:30:08 PM
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All I know is, he is doing it all for his country, and I think it's not a bad kind of action. He is a patriot, and a lot of Americans do support him because of that.

Now, other countries would probably not like that because it sounds selfish and power hungry. But they are known as one of the strongest countries in the world, so he is trying to keep that reputation. I am not a Trump supporter, but I don't hate him. I believe he is just an honest guy who doesn't like telling lies in front of the camera, although I think he will need a good PR to keep the statements clean, and probably won't hurt other feelings that keep on hurting his reputation in other countries.
Trump has a strong personality that makes him a threat to his challengers, so I don't think these people can do something about it. And you're right, what he'll said he'll do at all cost, so that kind of personality will surely be a threat to everyone who opposes his own rule.

Where there is Trump, there is power, and because he is the country's president so he will do everything for his own country, regardless if the other countries are seeing it Trump has already crossed the line, he won't mind it.

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January 25, 2026, 05:03:59 PM
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That's what I said, the two-faced policies of Western civilization are being revealed to the whole world, at least for Trump. When America-Israel creates unrest in the Middle East, they support it, whether it is ethical or unethical, but now that the gun is pointed at them, they have started to open their mouths.
Anyway, I would still say that in this time the European countries might not be do the same mistake they do during World War II that they go agianst the hitler lately but here we saw, But we can already see that Europe is able to somewhat restrain the Americans by exerting economic pressure, I think they will intensify these measures if Donald Trump doesn't turn his attention to Greenland.
Yeah, on this point I am in full agreement with you and this happens rarely with members of the Stake campaign -- most are completely braindead spammers that don't read anything. Maybe you are not like that, which would be a good thing.  Tongue Whether someone is going to behave in good or evil ways is entirely up to the person or entity. It is their decision and they have to live with the consequences that come as a result of said decision. However, what is worse than even being a honest evil actor is being a deceptive actor. Speaking in manipulative ways, being a hypocrite and everything that comes with this behavior is a representation of worst kind of people. If you are evil, man up and live it. Europe is a shithole and it deserves everything that is going to happen to it, and so do other allies, for their hypocritical behavior. This was known and clear to those that pay attention, but Trump merely exaggerated the process of exposing hypocrisy. To make this even ridiculous, Trump is very old and obviously he is not able to act in his prime -- he will make all sorts of mistakes, and yet he has been able to do this and play most Europeans like a fiddle. How many times they got upset since he got into office, we could make a reality show off of it.  Cheesy

Trump turns a threat to some countries because they cannot compete with how powerful Trump is. So instead of liking and appreciating him, these countries have seen him as a threat and might as well planning some silent attacks.

But personally, Trump is just trying to lead his country on what he thinks he's right. And if he sees his country is being taken advantage of, he will not let it pass but will sanction those will try to do so.

He is not a threat to a world peace, but the reactions he get from other leaders are definitely the threat to peace. And Trump is highly aware of that.
Yes, but you kind of got this wrong and backwards. Countries that are weak and small have been mostly ungrateful parasites towards the USA. Instead of obeying and doing what needs to be done for our side, they have been ungrateful and causing unnecessary problems for the US. This is why Trump does not like them at all. Look at the recent statements about NATO, he claimed accurately that mostly other countries NATO soldiers stayed back out of the action -- some countries got upset because a few of their soldiers died. What a joke, besides the UK and Canada the other countries had fewer than 100 deaths and this is what they consider their great contribution. Fuck these countries, the US should withdraw from NATO and let them fend for themselves. The US can defend itself and even invade others, the other NATO countries without the US are useless. Enough ingratitude, let them reap the consequences of their own stupidity.

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