OgNasty - Endless Editing

[JustBeKause]

@KWH you might get your apology if you're persistent enough. You've had skin in the game for decades now and have maintained a titanium-level reputation throughout. It would be a shame if the lie OgNasty just started perpetuating would cause you trouble.

However, the apology might not be satisfactory. You might just be in store for Og's specialty of agressive private messages followed by public posts of text walls littered with passive aggressive half-truths. He also might top it off with Vod catching a stray bullet:

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5390/53905779.html

I asked OgNasty to apologize for, once again, lying about me.. and he sent me bully PMs filled with nonsense, then blocked my PMs so I couldn't respond. LMAO.

Be a man Og, and stop trying to act like a high school bully.. it's getting real old, real quick.

Am I going to have to waste my time proving you are lying again?... or can you be a man here and apologize like you should?

You want me to apologize for asking you the reason why you're an idiot?  OK, I will.  I am sorry ibminer for asking if you were the idiot that stole a miner from me, when you were the idiot that tried to bully me into changing a signature you didn't like.  I apparently should have taken the time to look up the reason I knew you were an idiot instead of asking publicly for the reason you are an idiot, which you couldn't comprehend was a question and idiotically took as me lying (is it possible to lie with a question?).  I hope you can accept my apology.  I'm not sorry for blocking you, as you have a habit of trying to force your opinions on me through PM and I think you're an idiot so your opinions are a worthless waste of my time.

Now please move on with your life before you give yourself a stroke like Vod and stop trying to waste my time with replying to your idiotic nonsense.

[KWH]

@KWH you might get your apology if you're persistent enough. You've had skin in the game for decades now and have maintained a titanium-level reputation throughout. It would be a shame if the lie OgNasty just started perpetuating would cause you trouble.

However, the apology might not be satisfactory. You might just be in store for Og's specialty of agressive private messages followed by public posts of text walls littered with passive aggressive half-truths. He also might top it off with Vod catching a stray bullet:

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5390/53905779.html

I asked OgNasty to apologize for, once again, lying about me.. and he sent me bully PMs filled with nonsense, then blocked my PMs so I couldn't respond. LMAO.

Be a man Og, and stop trying to act like a high school bully.. it's getting real old, real quick.

Am I going to have to waste my time proving you are lying again?... or can you be a man here and apologize like you should?

You want me to apologize for asking you the reason why you're an idiot?  OK, I will.  I am sorry ibminer for asking if you were the idiot that stole a miner from me, when you were the idiot that tried to bully me into changing a signature you didn't like.  I apparently should have taken the time to look up the reason I knew you were an idiot instead of asking publicly for the reason you are an idiot, which you couldn't comprehend was a question and idiotically took as me lying (is it possible to lie with a question?).  I hope you can accept my apology.  I'm not sorry for blocking you, as you have a habit of trying to force your opinions on me through PM and I think you're an idiot so your opinions are a worthless waste of my time.

Now please move on with your life before you give yourself a stroke like Vod and stop trying to waste my time with replying to your idiotic nonsense.

I'm pretty immune to gaslighting, I just have fun with it because it does not bother me. I actually find it amusing, the reaching, denying and word salad. Hell, I even play along at times.

[Xylber]

This is behavior that can indicate one or more of the following:

1.) You realize what you said was false.
2.) You regret making that original post.
3.) You think that original post was off topic.
4.) You think that original post was an inaccurate description of why your auction didn’t do so well.

5) You don't want AI bots to train themselves with the text you wrote.

[JustBeKause]

This is behavior that can indicate one or more of the following:

1.) You realize what you said was false.
2.) You regret making that original post.
3.) You think that original post was off topic.
4.) You think that original post was an inaccurate description of why your auction didn’t do so well.

5) You don't want AI bots to train themselves with the text you wrote.

a) You most likely just trained an LLM typing that.
b) What the fuck are you talking about? No one is allowed to make lists now because of LLM's?

[Xylber]

This is behavior that can indicate one or more of the following:

1.) You realize what you said was false.
2.) You regret making that original post.
3.) You think that original post was off topic.
4.) You think that original post was an inaccurate description of why your auction didn’t do so well.

5) You don't want AI bots to train themselves with the text you wrote.

a) You most likely just trained an LLM typing that.
b) What the fuck are you talking about? No one is allowed to make lists now because of LLM's?

a) Surely.
b) Just adding another reason of why somebody would edit their posts in batches.

So, what's the accusation? Editing old posts? Who cares.
Better show the real thing, show the "shady business practices" you are talking about.

[Vod]

So, what's the accusation? Editing old posts? Who cares.

Editing your own drunken posts is one thing, but I end up losing my posts that quote his nonsense.  Not my addiction, should not be my expense.

[JustBeKause]

So, what's the accusation? Editing old posts? Who cares.
Better show the real thing, show the "shady business practices" you are talking about.

I wasn't going to bother replying to your response since:

Anyone that has read all the post from all sides, knows what the lawsuit is about.

However, considering the word-twisting individual merited your post, here you go. Please be advised the following is nothing but the tip of the iceberg from what I can understand after reading everything and being around for as long as I have.

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1.) The Pirateat40 Ponzi Pass-through Service:

• TwitchySeal's breakdown 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg30944546#msg30944546
• TwitchySeal's breakdown 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg31367464#msg31367464

2.) After the Pirateat40 collapse, OgNasty has mentioned multiple times that he has interest in creating a similar program:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg30944786#msg30944786 - "As for the NastyMining tie in, you’re damn right I was angry about pirate stealing everyone’s funds and was sick of all the scams in the community. I vowed to help create a project capable of returning BTC to users that wouldn’t fail so that there would be at least one non-scam option on this forum going forward."
• https://web.archive.org/web/20201108140515/https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-ognasty-treasurer-at-bitcointalk-org-ask-me-anything-t2221.html?sid=4b0ec0fe4800bf50d987cb1e9225b4b0 - "After seeing Casascius' creation, I thought it would give me the opportunity to use my project to create a unique and next level physical stock certificate type vehicle that had no costs of any kind. I do have a new product idea on the horizon, which will be more of a custom physical wallet, and less tied to the "Nasty" brand."
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.msg1109202#msg1109202 - "I will be looking into options to keep the program running in one form or another, but most likely I will close this program down to focus on NastyMining."

3.) Hellot getting red-tagged by OgNasty after evaluating a scam accusation in which OgNasty mishandled his customer's escrow funds:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040831.msg20594765#msg20594765

4.) OgNasty labeling Owlcatz as the scammer behind newbies experiencing escrow scams, without any proof:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3156647.msg32632416#msg32632416

5.) BTCforjoe on the indicators that make NastyFans a ponzi:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg29073251#msg29073251

6.) TMAN on OgNasty stealing electricity and lying about it:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg23520069#msg23520069
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg23519847#msg23519847
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2316485.msg23527003#msg23527003

7.) TheNewAnon135246 on OgNasty contradicting himself about if he owns NastyFans or not:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153.msg29085511#msg29085511

8.) EcuaMobi on OgNasty literally twisting the words of forum Administrator, theymos:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139847.msg50927872#msg50927872

9.) Marlboroza on NastyFans being suspiciously ponzi, OgNasty contradictions about who owns NastyFans, and OgNasty huge capability to lie/mislead:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg50958815#msg50958815
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg50950441#msg50950441
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg50988506#msg50988506
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg52008053#msg52008053
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg52248030#msg52248030

10.) Here is a list of things you can go ahead and explore on your own, as I feel I have provided you enough reading material for the month:

• He told Lutpin to kill himself
• He told LoyceV he would knock his teeth out if they ever met in person
• He has perpetuated the false criminal offense of Vod being a pedophile
• He was caught trying to steal forked altcoins while he was treasurer
• He is heavily associated with Quickseller, a forum user that has record-breaking negative trust for scams
• He falsely accused ibminer of stealing from him
• He threatened anonymousminer via PM and told him that his father was probably dead because no father would raise a pussy like him
• He engages in trust abuse, manipulation, and coercion. He is always spamming his custom trust lists to exclude everyone that calls him out
• He accused TwitchySeal and game-protect of being the same person, with no proof
• He has been called out by minerjones to be a "known scammer and ponzi operator"
• He literally just accused KWH of account selling, without proof

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Question for @Xylber:

Does the above qualify as "Better show the real thing, show the 'shady business practices' you are talking about."?

[JustBeKause]

Forgot to add all of the theymos slander too:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268455.msg54990741#msg54990741 - ~"this DT circlejerk and spamfest that theymos is for some reason letting outweigh any actual contributions to Bitcoin"~
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277084.msg55246159#msg55246159 - "Unfortunately, so long as theymos isn't willing to put a stop to this, Vod will continue trolling and littering this forum with misinformation and childishness."
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474002.msg63634511#msg63634511 - "I just know theymos is not a man of his word and I don’t really respect that. He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury. He didn’t live up to his threat to blackball the mentally ill guy from DT for his trust abuse."
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5481352.msg63509390#msg63509390 - "The problem with theymos being able to moderate the DT system is that he doesn’t. I’ve seen him make empty threats to people and when they spit in his face he just takes it and moves on. When the only action is empty threats that never get followed up on, he’s basically a useless observer of the system when it comes down to it."

[LoyceV]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474002.msg63634511#msg63634511 - "I just know theymos is not a man of his word and I don’t really respect that. He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury. He didn’t live up to his threat to blackball the mentally ill guy from DT for his trust abuse."

Did he just delete this post after you quoted him?

[JustBeKause]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474002.msg63634511#msg63634511 - "I just know theymos is not a man of his word and I don’t really respect that. He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury. He didn’t live up to his threat to blackball the mentally ill guy from DT for his trust abuse."

Did he just delete this post after you quoted him?

Hmm. Not sure. I swear I saw that post on the live forum thread not too long ago. Wtf?

Edit: I was up and keeping track of his post count for the last 16 or so hours. I noticed every time I checked, it was stagnant at 24425. It never dipped down to 24424. I checked as soon as I read your post and it actually went up to 24426. Basically, I don't think he just deleted that post. I do however, know for a fact he deleted it a very long time after it was made, which is not suprising and on-theme for him considering current events and his history and such.

Wayback has it last snapped 10 months after he made it: https://web.archive.org/web/20241213184722/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474002.msg63634511#msg63634511

Vod might know more since he's been the main one documenting this stuff for the longest.

[Vod]

Vod might know more since he's been the main one documenting this stuff for the longest.

That exact quote is listed in my claim as fact #31.  So it existed until OgNasty was served last summer; he was cooperative here providing a subject example.

Vod, you are such a loser. You keep talking about your frivolous lawsuit like 1) I give a shit & 2) you ever had any prayer of winning anything. What are you going to do when you lose the lawsuit? More excuses?

When I lose the lawsuit I'll have to apologize to everyone for lying so well over a decade.  I'll probably have to pay back all the bitcoin millionaires here that I bribed while on social assistance.  I'll basically have to crawl into a corner and die as the pervert only you knew I was.  You will be a hero not only in bitcoin, but as a shining example set against the darkness of the Trump-Epstein files.

This is actually the exact behavior this thread is talking about.  I’ve never scammed anyone. Why is the community ok with Vod’s constant lies and trust abuse? Why are people ok with those who include him in DT? I created keys that are holding millions of dollars for members of this community right now. If I can be attacked like this and nobody does anything after the hundreds of people I’ve protected with escrows, thousands of satisfied customers, and millions of dollars held on generated addresses for others, do you really think this community has any chance of retaining any new talent?

As your assets evaporate you post these damaging lies thinking it's ok when you sober edit/delete the next morning.  

https://bitlist.co/post/66467309

[OgNasty]

When I lose the lawsuit I'll have to apologize to everyone for lying so well over a decade.  I'll probably have to pay back all the bitcoin millionaires here that I bribed while on social assistance.  I'll basically have to crawl into a corner and die as the pervert only you knew I was.  You will be a hero not only in bitcoin, but as a shining example set against the darkness of the Trump-Epstein files.

Cool.

Edited because humor.