Newbies! why some of our posts never get read.

[tabas]

IMHO, the format is normal and shouldn't be the major thing. Newbies are recognized depending on how informative their posts are and how valid the questions are. It's not about that they're being ignored by the most. But if they have valuable information to add to the discussion, they'll be recognized. The formality of formats are usual thing if you're in a public discussions and forum but the content and value you add to the conversation is what matters the most. Being polite and respectful in how you write is also important.

Just to add, it is also of equal importance that newbies should post comments on threads that are not considered as "generic".

For example, if a newbie posts a comment on a thread titled "how to be rich in cryptocurrency" in which multiple topics had already been created in the past, no matter how informative your comment may be, it will not gain any reply nor traction on their part.

At the end of the day, it is all about experience and knowledgeability on a certain topic. It's impossible to know each and every answer to all threads; but it is possible to at least be informative on a given post which is not overall considered as generic.

Yes, aside from generic ones. There is no need for repetitive answers once they've already read that there are some other members who have posted the right answers already.

IMHO, the format is normal and shouldn't be the major thing. Newbies are recognized depending on how informative their posts are and how valid the questions are. It's not about that they're being ignored by the most. But if they have valuable information to add to the discussion, they'll be recognized. The formality of formats are usual thing if you're in a public discussions and forum but the content and value you add to the conversation is what matters the most. Being polite and respectful in how you write is also important.

I agree with you. On bitcointalk, it’s not the format that will actually grab people’s attention, it’s really the quality of the post. If your post contains valuable information, valuable experiences, or valuable thoughts, people will definitely take notice. There are people there who frankly do not care if your post doesn’t fit any of these circumstances, as long as what you’re contributing to the forum is valuable.

While respect and consideration are always significant, especially when it comes to an online forum, formatting will ultimately not get you any recognition or merit. What’s really significant here, especially when it comes to new members, is to really focus on learning, contributing, and being genuine.

Right, if there are signs of learning. It's a good way of conversing in threads that you are interested with, as long as you're not going to derail it. Because that also gives pleasure to the OP knowing that there are people who are learning from them.

[JiiBs]

Some posts contains good ideas, thoughtful opinions or genuine questions, yet they recieve little or no engagement. In many cases, this is not because the idea itself is weak, but because the formatting makes the post hard to read.

Well I’ll tell you this much, as far as presentation goes, threads that actually gets no attention is mainly because they don’t deserve one.

I say this because, when everyone on the forum both ranked users and newbies alike have the same impression on a thread, that silent treat or response speaks for itself. It simply means, the thread isn’t worth it.

At times you find users create threads and not give room for discussions, users that seem to know what they are saying or at least present it that way and yet, they want a discussion. Of course there is nothing to discuss at that point.

[Patikno]

Personally, I won't miss a discussion being proposed or one being questioned by a newbie. The problem is, I sometimes find writing or language that is difficult to understand bothering me, and even then, I often question the point of the discussion. Essentially, I prefer to discuss things that are informative and educational in a post, so that it will broaden everyone knowledge, especially for beginners. Well, generally people will appreciate a well-written and neat format, so newbies also need to improve their posts and avoid being confusing. The discussion will be easy to understand, and people will reply to the posts or threads discussed. Both need to be considered actually.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Personally, I won't miss a discussion being proposed or one being questioned by a newbie. The problem is, I sometimes find writing or language that is difficult to understand bothering me, and even then, I often question the point of the discussion. Essentially, I prefer to discuss things that are informative and educational in a post, so that it will broaden everyone knowledge, especially for beginners. Well, generally people will appreciate a well-written and neat format, so newbies also need to improve their posts and avoid being confusing. The discussion will be easy to understand, and people will reply to the posts or threads discussed. Both need to be considered actually.

Language is not a big problem for communicating as forum members don't need to have perfect English in writing for discussions. They need basic reading and writing skills first for reading, learning and joining discussions. If they can put their efforts into their reading and writing, they will improve their writing English over time quite considerably.

Only people don't want to learn, and only aim at writing shitposts will never improve their English and their post quality.

Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors.

In the English sections, only English is allowed. It is not necessary to speak perfect English, though you should be understandable. Try your best.

[Furball808]

I’m thinking that the title or subject name might also have some effect on how many people want to actually click on our posts. Sometimes it might be a little too vague or not eye-catching at all. Or it doesn’t really reflect the content of the post which drives others away.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I agree with you, as a newbie, we shouldn’t be surprised when seeing some posts from them because they are new to the system, although some understand forum and they know how to create a post and to get people attention to reply the post, when you are new to the system there are many things that you will not understand until you start reading and learning about them, no matter how smart you are when you join forum, it is going to be new for you because there are some things you will not know anything about it, what the newbie need is who is going to guide them through some important things they should know and how to make a good post that will help them go get more attention from people, some of them create post that have already been posted before to get other big attention and it is not going to work, letting them know some important things they should do in forum is the help them.

This is a perfect example of what the OP was talking about. You made a single run on sentence that is 4 lines long. It is difficult to read because of formatting and repetitive ideas. You could have said the same thing in fewer words and structured into proper sentences and paragraphs.

[Floxynice]

This is a very good observation @op. Unconsciously, I have been guilty of skipping posts which are not well formatted, especially if the post is too lengthy that makes it difficult for a reader to quickly scan through. Yea, such not well formatted posts can be boring and confusing to read if there are different ideas packed in just one paragraph.

I also want to point out that newbies are not the only ones who a guilty of making posts that are not well formatted. Going through the various posts in this thread, I can see posts which are also not well formatted and guess what, the writers are not newbies. I understand that newbies are still learning how this forum works, what excuse do old forum members have for still writing poorly?

Thanks @op for explaining this for easy understanding. I learnt something new today.

[Bryan jessy]

But in practice, the format still has a role as a bridge so that the content of the message can reach the reader. It's not a matter of having to be neat or perfect, but at least it's easy to read and not confusing. Many people don't actually ignore newbie, it's just that they have trouble grasping the essence of the message because the delivery is not clear.

If the content is indeed valuable, sooner or later people will respond. Over time Newbie will also learn to adapt to their writing style naturally. The most important thing is to stay focused on the substance, be open to input and maintain a polite attitude so that discussions can run healthy and respect each other.

My thought as well, some times it is really not the paragraphing or format of the write up, but the topic of that thread, if the topic is one which is contributing to problem solving,  interesting or educating trust me you will see people enjoying it, the content of the thread is mainly significant, but let us also take note and ensure our threads is well arranged easy to glance through and comprehend.

Also I do not see anything wrong with newbies making threads so far they are following the rules governing the forum with no violations it is fine, because that is a medium most newbies ask their questions to get multiple and clear answers. Note, not every newbie is a newbie to Bitcoin but to the forum as the case may be.

[Sambitcoin01]

Over time on Bitcointalk, i have noticed a recurring issue that affects many newcomers, and even some older users aswell.

Some posts contains good ideas, thoughtful opinions or genuine questions, yet they recieve little or no engagement. In many cases, this is not because the idea itself is weak, but because the formatting makes the post hard to read.

This observation is not meant as a criticism or an attack on anyone. It is simply something that affects how discussions flows on the forum.

Bitcointalk is a very active forum, with many threads and replies competing for attention at the same time. Most readers don’t read every post word for word, especially when posted by an unpopular user, instead they scan first to determine if it worths their time.
When a post appears as:

• a single wall of text
• no paragraphs or proper spacing
• no clear seperation of ideas

many readers move on almost immediately, regardless of how good the content might actually be.
This means that a poorly formatted post can unintentionally hide what could have been a valuable idea.

Why post formatting matters:
Post formatting is not about being fancy. It serves some very practical purposes such as;

• Readability: short paragraphs are easier on the eyes
• Clarity: each idea stands on it’s own
• Engagement: readers are more likely to respond when they understand the point quickly
• Respect to Readers: good formatting shows consideration for the readers time. You don’t just bundle wall of texts and paste in a forum of experts

So, when next you make a post, spare a few minutes and format your post very well because on a forum like Bitcointalk, where discussions can be technical or opinion-heavy, clarity matters alot.
Now see an example of the post above that is not formatted. Here you will see the practical difference between a well formatted post and a poorly formatted post.
Example of a poorly formated post

Over time on Bitcointalk, i have noticed a recurring issue that affects many newcomers and even some older users aswell. Some posts contains good ideas thoughtful opinions or genuine questions yet they recieve little or no engagement and in many cases this is not because the idea itself is weak but because the formatting makes the post hard to read .This observation is not meant as a criticism or an attack on anyone it is simply something that affects how discussions flows on the forum. Bitcointalk is a very active forum with many threads and replies competing for attention at the same time most readers don’t read every post word for word especially when posted by an unpopular user instead they scan first to determine if it worths their time. When a post appear as a single wall of text with no paragraphs or proper spacing and no clear seperation of ideas many readers move on almost immediately regardless of how good the content might actually be this means that a poorly formatted post can unintentionally hide what could have been a valuable idea. Why post formatting matters, post formatting is not about being fancy it serves some very practical purposes such as Readability: short paragraphs are easier on the eyes. Clarity: each idea stands on it’s own engagement readers are more likely to respond when they understand the point quickly. Respect to readers: good formatting shows consideration for the readers time you don’t just bundle wall of texts and paste in a forum of experts. So when next you make a post spare a few minutes and format your post very well because on a forum like bitcointalk where discussions can be technical or opinion-heavy clarity matters a lot.

That's true it helps when your writing looks well formatted. And well arranged that why readers can also get your point and also make your topic interesting.

[AYOBA]

Bitcointalk is a very active forum, with many threads and replies competing for attention at the same time. Most readers don’t read every post word for word, especially when posted by an unpopular user, instead they scan first to determine if it worths their time.

The reasons why some of the newbie’s post is ignored without reading them talk less of reply is that, some of their posts is not useful for them that’s why we can see even those they created threads on the forum no matter how long the threads it is thy will just over look it with comments. In this case it’s good for each an everyone when we come create a threads we should create the one that will be the most interesting to read, and also encourage them to share their thoughts on the topic.

And again they are some posts that they don’t post them in a right board that it deserves, that’s even though some users don’t bother to go through the posts.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

If you know that some are being read, just check through the views and see a number of people that have seen it but refused to comment or merit, because they see it of less quality or something not engaging enough for discussion, its high time that we better understand the essence of not creating a thread or making comments on others threads when there is nothing new to offer or contributes, that is why the standard on this forum still remains the requirement for quality post, while there are lots of guides to make this possible if we read some of the threads created on this aspect.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I can't say for myself that newbies' posts aren't read, but OP, you're right that reading a continuous text without punctuation or paragraph breaks is quite difficult. Furthermore, newbies sometimes repeat what's already been said many times, which can be distracting. I understand that there's a lot of information on the forum, and it's very difficult to contribute anything new to the topic. However, that's precisely what makes those texts valuable, even if they're short, texts that sometimes seem to hit the mark, that is, they completely align with the thoughts of those reading them.

[rdluffy]

Something I remembered after posting here

Sometimes I posted from my phone while traveling, away from home, or for some other reason
And posting from your phone makes it really difficult to format properly 
The only thing you can do is split the lines as best you can (like this post hehehe)

It's very difficult to edit some quotes on your phone, try to shorten them, or format them properly

Dividing posts into short lines already helps a lot to improve readability

[Luzin]

I’m thinking that the title or subject name might also have some effect on how many people want to actually click on our posts. Sometimes it might be a little too vague or not eye-catching at all. Or it doesn’t really reflect the content of the post which drives others away.

Sometimes there are indeed some technical things that need to be considered when writing on this forum. However, we understand that the senior members of the forum have done a good job by pinning important guidelines related to forum participation and writing rules. So, as a good beginner, you should start by reading them and then applying them when creating your posts. Another approach you can take is to observe some of the senior members who post frequently. You can watch and imitate their style. Then, I think you should start on the local board, because it will be easier.