Modern Medieval sport that should have a betting line?

[Oasisman]

Hey all,

I'm talking about Modern-day Jousting. I've seen some clips and videos before about how this league started like more than 10 years ago. Just yesterday, I saw it again on my YouTube recommendations (I don't know why it suddenly showed up, lol), and I have these thoughts, why it has'nt became popular. I mean, these are a badass combat sport, with a proper point system basis that could be used for betting.

So, according to my research, this is how points are determined after every run, or they call it passes.

+1 Point: Breaking the lance on the opponent's arm/shoulder.
+2 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's chest or body.
+3 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's shield or head/helmet.
+5 Points: Unseating the opponent (knocking them off their horse).
Source:Google

There are like 5-8 passes, depending on the rules, and there is no specific point to reach, the winner will be determined by the one who has the highest points.

If you guys are not aware, Armored MMA has a betting line on some of the well-known casinos, and this is a Medieval sport, with an actual betting line based on a traditional MMA match.
However, I don't think it's action-packed. I like the Modern-day Jousting more because it's cool and it's like a sport for tough men, lol. Some people even suggest that it should be an Olympic sport.

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

[julerz12]

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

Yes. I'd bet on it. Heck, back in the day, we even put a bet on spiders dangling on a stick, what more if it's a match between armored Knights.
I've always been a fan of armored MMA. It's a fun match to watch, and seeing the participants swinging massive metal axe hitting their metal armor, the excitement is certainly there.
Now, in this modern-day jousting, it is far more exhilarating to watch than armored MMA. From the time the Knights starts accelarating towards their opponent and the moment their lances impact, that's just something else. It's like seeing a boxer getting KOed from a one-massive punch. I even see clips of some Knights getting knocked off their horses from the sheer impact of their lances. Crazy.

[dimonstration]

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

Even the shittiest sports or event received bets from bettor so I personally bet on any sports available that I will be interested. This sports is probably have low demand on sports betting compared to other sports that has a lot of exposure from bettors.

Social media algorithm is insane. They can even hear what you are saying then suggest a sports that you describe.

I once only talk about specific sports with my friend and suddenly Meta keep showing me post related to that specific sports. Despite they are claiming they don’t track via microphone.

[KTChampions]

Hey all,

I'm talking about Modern-day Jousting. I've seen some clips and videos before about how this league started like more than 10 years ago. Just yesterday, I saw it again on my YouTube recommendations (I don't know why it suddenly showed up, lol), and I have these thoughts, why it has'nt became popular. I mean, these are a badass combat sport, with a proper point system basis that could be used for betting.

So, according to my research, this is how points are determined after every run, or they call it passes.

+1 Point: Breaking the lance on the opponent's arm/shoulder.
+2 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's chest or body.
+3 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's shield or head/helmet.
+5 Points: Unseating the opponent (knocking them off their horse).
Source:Google

There are like 5-8 passes, depending on the rules, and there is no specific point to reach, the winner will be determined by the one who has the highest points.

If you guys are not aware, Armored MMA has a betting line on some of the well-known casinos, and this is a Medieval sport, with an actual betting line based on a traditional MMA match.
However, I don't think it's action-packed. I like the Modern-day Jousting more because it's cool and it's like a sport for tough men, lol. Some people even suggest that it should be an Olympic sport.

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

First, I'm curious why three points are awarded for striking a shield? This shouldn't be considered a particularly significant move compared to striking an opponent in the arm, body, or unhorsing an opponent.
Overall, I'm open to experimentation and probably wouldn't mind betting on such an event, especially if the margins were good (like in football). Considering the competition is made up of rounds, I think the probabilities are easy to calculate. Essentially, it's a "discrete" competition, like cricket.

[joeperry]

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

Absolutely, it shows on my Facebook feed too and I thought it was just a exhibition match for people to be entertained because what I saw is in a medieval themed park and they have that kind of activity but I didn't know that there's really a sports like that. Honestly I thought you need to pierce the armor of the opponent gladly I read the pointing system you've posted lol. Anyway, I would definitely place bet on that kind of match, even though they're using a non lethal lance it looks like it hurts due to impact and I hope the horses would also get some armors just in case the lance slips downwards directly to the horse's face or chest.

[Hispo]

I have indeed heard about modern jousting, actually I recall there was a television series on Discovery/History channel about it and it was quite entertaining to see people getting involved with it.

Though, I am not sure I would bet on it, It already takes significant time to be up to date with classical sports like football and baseball, which does not leave much room for someone like me to get informed about where I would put my money.

Still, I could see a significant amount of liquidity and people getting involved in this if it spiked on popularity.

[julerz12]

First, I'm curious why three points are awarded for striking a shield? This shouldn't be considered a particularly significant move compared to striking an opponent in the arm, body, or unhorsing an opponent.

Jousting is all about breaking that lance on your opponent, either on their shield or on their helmet/body.
Shields are also often small and sometimes strategically angled; hitting them while trying to break your lance is hard, your lance might just skid off and not break (which results in zero points). Targeting the shield is also considered honorable 'cause it shows a Knight not having any bad intentions (like actually harming their opponent) while also still strong enough to break their lance on their opponent.
Most of the time, if a knight gets a clean hit on the shield, it could cause them to get knocked off their horses, which, of course, is another big point.

Here's a short video of what the rules of jousting are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZkUTeZM5GE

[Strongkored]

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

I bet if understand how it works, and when I'm going to do an analysis there is a lot of data available to use as a reference and also if the bookmaker where I usually play offers this bet, there are many betting options.
Often sports that do not have many fans have very few betting choices, only the moneyline, as I have seen in badminton, and this is not interesting to me.

[TypoTonic]

If you guys are not aware, Armored MMA has a betting line on some of the well-known casinos, and this is a Medieval sport, with an actual betting line based on a traditional MMA match.
However, I don't think it's action-packed. I like the Modern-day Jousting more because it's cool and it's like a sport for tough men, lol. Some people even suggest that it should be an Olympic sport.

I haven't heard about jousting before to be honest, seems pretty dangerous. I tried to watch some videos about it and came across this one, which contains a funny clip of a veteran jouster explaining the sport. Quoting what he said:

"In layman’s term, two idiots wear a trash can, they get on a really big horse, they grab a really long stick, and they ride at one another with the intention of breaking those sticks, or knocking somebody off their horse."

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

I would try to bet just for fun. Though I'll most likely just choose randomly since I don't have much knowledge about it.

[Zlantann]

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

The fun of betting on sports is when you have an interest in the game. This sport is common in movies, and I don't see it as very interesting. However, with clear rules, sponsors and more publicity, it might become popular. Betting on Medieval sports would depend if I develop an interest and like the game. For me, I don't think I would place a bet on this game for now. Old school games can be interesting if they are well organised using modern style.

[Eternad]

A nice sports that I’m not aware existing now since I only watch this on Game on Thrones before and through medieval movies.

I will be interested to place a bet on sports since I fancy this sports when I’m watching GOT. I don’t watch this on social media and there’s no content about this on my country influencers.

It requires a strong social media presence for this sports to be available on betting market but I like this one.

[danherbias07]

I might. It's unique, and I am intrigued by how it will end and about the results of the match. Heck, I was even looking for a betting line of the World Chase Tag Championship, and I can see one. It's also an old-school type of game that kids played back in the day. Sadly, I cannot find one.

I bet those who bet on horse racing will also be intrigued by this kind of sport. I just hope there won't be any rigged game considering how easy it is to fake the fights and avoid getting hurt in the process.

[Alphakilo]

Hey all,

I'm talking about Modern-day Jousting. I've seen some clips and videos before about how this league started like more than 10 years ago. Just yesterday, I saw it again on my YouTube recommendations (I don't know why it suddenly showed up, lol), and I have these thoughts, why it has'nt became popular. I mean, these are a badass combat sport, with a proper point system basis that could be used for betting.

So, according to my research, this is how points are determined after every run, or they call it passes.

+1 Point: Breaking the lance on the opponent's arm/shoulder.
+2 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's chest or body.
+3 Points: Breaking the lance on the opponent's shield or head/helmet.
+5 Points: Unseating the opponent (knocking them off their horse).
Source:Google

There are like 5-8 passes, depending on the rules, and there is no specific point to reach, the winner will be determined by the one who has the highest points.

If you guys are not aware, Armored MMA has a betting line on some of the well-known casinos, and this is a Medieval sport, with an actual betting line based on a traditional MMA match.
However, I don't think it's action-packed. I like the Modern-day Jousting more because it's cool and it's like a sport for tough men, lol. Some people even suggest that it should be an Olympic sport.

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

I have always loved the game of 'joust' since I was a kid and do play it on my video game back then as I can remember. It is a really cool game and I must support it be added to modern day sports and available for betting or gambling on, via betting platforms that are available and would give more options and odds to make a staggering win offer.

I wonder though how casinos sit down to decide the kind of games they make available on their site, but isn't it possible that such a game of Joust may be available on the Polymarket or it is a far stretch from modern reality that mainly focuses on simple sports and politics.

[KTChampions]

First, I'm curious why three points are awarded for striking a shield? This shouldn't be considered a particularly significant move compared to striking an opponent in the arm, body, or unhorsing an opponent.

Jousting is all about breaking that lance on your opponent, either on their shield or on their helmet/body.
Shields are also often small and sometimes strategically angled; hitting them while trying to break your lance is hard, your lance might just skid off and not break (which results in zero points). Targeting the shield is also considered honorable 'cause it shows a Knight not having any bad intentions (like actually harming their opponent) while also still strong enough to break their lance on their opponent.
Most of the time, if a knight gets a clean hit on the shield, it could cause them to get knocked off their horses, which, of course, is another big point.

Here's a short video of what the rules of jousting are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZkUTeZM5GE

Then that makes sense, thanks for the explanation. I was trying to understand the point value not from a knight's perspective, but from a peasant's, so I made a mistake 
I wonder what the knights' income from such tournaments is. It doesn't seem very high to me, and perhaps even considering equestrian sports are very expensive, they're nonexistent. I mean because in sports where the money is tight, there's a lot of fixed betting (like in eSports, for example), and bookmakers operate cautiously in such markets.

[libert19]

...So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

As I was reading, I was like WTF is Jousting, so I search for it, and I realize I was already somewhat aware of this sport, just not by name; I watched some clips to understand it better, and tbh I ain't intrigued by it, it just doesn't feel like there is much substance to it.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

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So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

Jousting is quite a cool and interesting game that I won't mind placing a bet on it if added among the list of Sport games on casinos. And not only that, but if a clear information about each Jousting players, strength and weaknesses are been published online where gamblers can be able to use such data in comparing their previous performance to determine what to expect in their forthcoming games. However, Jousting is a game that became popular in ancient times among the Europeans and American, and was a game kingdoms play to determine strength, and to know which kingdom had the most bravest and skillful warriors back then in ancient times. And for me, I got t know about the game Jousting from the famous action and adventurous movie called "Merlin" when prince Arthur and Merlin went to represent the city of Camelot.

[Oasisman]

First, I'm curious why three points are awarded for striking a shield? This shouldn't be considered a particularly significant move compared to striking an opponent in the arm, body, or unhorsing an opponent.

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I wonder what the knights' income from such tournaments is. It doesn't seem very high to me, and perhaps even considering equestrian sports are very expensive, they're nonexistent. I mean because in sports where the money is tight, there's a lot of fixed betting (like in eSports, for example), and bookmakers operate cautiously in such markets.

@Julerz perfectly explained it.

On your 2nd query, I think the knights don't have  "enough" income, because it does not generate that much income in the first place. Based on what I have observed on the clips and documentaries that I've watched so far, this Medieval combat sport is more like passion-driven than a money-making one. So, what they normally do is organize a show and sometimes a real tournament. I've read some comments that people at the event are actually betting P2P.
And yeah, equestrian sports are very expensive, plus the armor they're wearing. Maybe that's one of the reasons why it did not attract more players to get involved in this type of sport.

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

Absolutely, it shows on my Facebook feed too and I thought it was just a exhibition match for people to be entertained because what I saw is in a medieval themed park and they have that kind of activity but I didn't know that there's really a sports like that.

Yeah, most of them are exhibition matches - just a show, but there are actual tournaments that we're not really aware of. 

So, would you bet on it if odds were available, or is this one sport that should stay old-school and betting-free?

I bet if understand how it works, and when I'm going to do an analysis there is a lot of data available to use as a reference and also if the bookmaker where I usually play offers this bet, there are many betting options.
Often sports that do not have many fans have very few betting choices, only the moneyline, as I have seen in badminton, and this is not interesting to me.

In this case, the moneyline would be the most suitable option. Some betting options may be discovered soon as they become popular and attract more bettors.

However, Jousting is a game that became popular in ancient times among the Europeans and American, and was a game kingdoms play to determine strength, and to know which kingdom had the most bravest and skillful warriors back then in ancient times. And for me, I got t know about the game Jousting from the famous action and adventurous movie called "Merlin" when prince Arthur and Merlin went to represent the city of Camelot.

I know, right? It's the same as the armored MMA combat sport, it feels like you're watching 2 knights fighting to earn the princess's hand or conquer a kingdom, lol. 
There's just one thing I always remember when I see this sport: it's from the movie "A Knight's Tale," where William Thatcher did Jousting without armor, lol.

 

[Russlenat]

I honestly need to understand this sport first since I really have no idea what it is. If we’re talking about boxing, basketball, soccer, or other major sports, I’d get it right away, but OP brought up something new to me. It actually made me curious enough to check it out and try to understand how it works.

By the way, is this game even available on most sportsbooks?

[alani123]

In my opinion sports that could be deadly should not be promoted too much.

Gambling platforms should abstain from sponsoring events like this or the powerslap because of how bad of a track record these have. If something can't be done safely better keep it limited or not promote it at all

[Alpha Marine]

I wouldn't bet on it simply because I don't follow. I can remember seeing a clip of it on Instagram, but I didn't know it was something that was being done as a sport. I thought it was just a one-time thing people did for fun.
I'm only getting to know about it as a sport now, so if odds were available, I doubt I would bet because I don't know anything about it. I don't know the teams, who is better than who, that sort of thing. 

There are a lot of things to consider before casinos can have an event/game/sports available for gambling. They have to consider howthey can make sure they will get the accurate result and data or the event, they also need a body that will make sure there is no rigging involved, and many other things they have to consider.

An Olympic sports must be practised by men in 74 countries and women in 40 countries, so I don't see this going to the Olympics anytime soon