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January 26, 2026, 01:32:44 PM
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Is there a way for you to provide live RTP on each casino or an average live RTP of all casino that shows this stats.

I’m interested on live RTP because it shows how a certain slot games perform on specific time frame to distinguish cold/hot slot game.

Some casino offer this feature therefore it’s helpful if you can provide this stats.

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January 26, 2026, 02:24:05 PM
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This is actually very nice and very helpful. It's the first time I looked at the numbers of the slot games that I played, and I was surprised that they have that kind of data.

I tested No Limit City (slot provider) Dragon Tribe (game) versus Pragmatic Play (slot provider) Candy Blitz Bombs (game). Truly, No Limit City games have a higher risk of loss because of the highly volatile types of games, but the returns could be big if you hit the good multiplier. Pragmatic Play, on the other hand, have lesser risk, but most of their games have a low max win, and so is the average win per session.

I will bookmark the website, and I might test some more comparisons.

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January 26, 2026, 04:42:11 PM
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To be honest, it might be useful for those who change slot games most of the time. Because many times people get into playing slots without understanding, especially newbies, at least here there is an opportunity to see some information. From that perspective the idea is good. However it seems that many people might think that by comparing, they can win by playing this slot, which is not actually true, Slots are ultimately a game of luck. I think if the users can be explained a little more realistically, then this tool can really come in handy.

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January 26, 2026, 05:00:15 PM
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To be honest, it might be useful for those who change slot games most of the time. Because many times people get into playing slots without understanding, especially newbies, at least here there is an opportunity to see some information. From that perspective the idea is good. However it seems that many people might think that by comparing, they can win by playing this slot, which is not actually true, Slots are ultimately a game of luck. I think if the users can be explained a little more realistically, then this tool can really come in handy.
From my own end, you see anything that gives the players the knowledge about the game isn't bad but rather a good development or thing,most especially for those that are new and they are trying different slots without having the knowledge of what they're actually doing,with transparent information it can reduce those random plays and also help the people to make a great choice.

The only thing is that some player or users will start comparing and it all means that there will be high chance in winning, which might not be correct because you see slots is completely based on luck and again if what is used for learning and not going after wins, then I will say that it can be helpful to people.

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January 26, 2026, 05:23:29 PM
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Interesting! and you have a huge list. Though I did notice some slots are not present like the other variations of barbarossa from Peter and Sons.

I'm curious where are the data from session results pulled up/based on? were they actual spins on real money? or perhaps something else.

 
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January 26, 2026, 06:59:01 PM
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Answering the questions:

The data we used is mixed, based on real life experiences, data from open/limited access sources, we tried to combine in order to get the best results.

The more usage the website will have, the more we will be able to invest in the development and adding a new features. So we would very much appreciate sharing!

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January 26, 2026, 07:00:58 PM
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This is like those guys comparing cars on what time they get to 100kmh, meanigless.

RTP is useless, against for the 1000th time, it's not per account, it's per total sum played, one can win a 1000x bet on a slot machine with 30% RTP and one can lose 1000$ without ever hitting more than $5 on a spin on a machine with 99% RTP.

All those numbers are just meaningless statistics, likes aying that if 2/3 of the population eats at McDanads tommorow for sue, you will be there ordering a BigMac..



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January 26, 2026, 08:02:16 PM
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I wonder how they can finalize the comparison.  We all know that the slot results depend on RNG.  Each session with the same slot game gives a different result, so I wonder whether the comparison will give a reliable result that can be reproduced without any variation.

I think any game that is dependent on RNG will give a random result, so I am also interested in how the comparison is made. 

Answering the questions:

The data we used is mixed, based on real life experiences, data from open/limited access sources, we tried to combine in order to get the best results.

The more usage the website will have, the more we will be able to invest in the development and adding a new features. So we would very much appreciate sharing!

Next milestone: Fix the load of the search, we will update the community here once done.

Due to RNG, the comparison result is ever-changing and possibly will affect the establishment of the difference between each compared slot provider.

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January 26, 2026, 08:10:05 PM
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We came up with the generous idea to develop a tool for comparing slots:

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I think that may be good for newbies but a seasoned gambler knows how to make a difference really well between these providers. Let me immediately point out that the one you have put on top of the list is the worse of the worse from the providers listed there and most likely Hacksaw is the best without a doubt. This not from only my personal experience but also that of many others who gamble daily and the result is Hacksaw gambling while it can crush you massively at least sometimes nets you the max win, something nowadays impossible from Pragmatic while they used to give the max win quite often up until January 2024, don't know what happened to them but they are not the same. This is my experience that I have from playing slots from years and I know what I say. I did a comparison between these two and looks like it is giving good details and this caught my eye, which just proves what I said earlier in the picture below, much better return consistency index in Hacksaw.


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January 26, 2026, 08:31:16 PM
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Update: We just release the version with the speed of search fix, could you please check now?

We came up with the generous idea to develop a tool for comparing slots:

Pragmatic
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And a lot of other providers are included!
What exactly is being compared here so it will enable us know what the post is about. Are you comparing the RTP of the slot games from the different providers? From the link you provided, you are looking at too many factors with no specifics which makes the entire platform difficult to use. My opinion is that individual should try out as many providers as they can and as many slot games as well to see which one give them better chance of winning and then continue with those games. From my personal experience, Haksaw games have given me more winning than any other slot game which why I play more of their games than those of other providers.

This is the information I get on their website about the metrics they are comparing on each slot games.

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RTP (Return to Player) The long-term average payout percentage. Zino puts RTP for Slot 1 and Slot 2 side by side so you can see immediately which game is mathematically more generous in the long run.

Volatility / Variance Whether the slot tends to give small frequent hits or rare large hits. Instead of just saying “high” or “medium”, Zino anchors this clearly so you can understand:
Which slot is more “spiky”.
Which one is more “smooth”.

Max Win (x stake) The theoretical maximum win in multiples of your stake (e.g. 5,000x, 10,000x). Zino shows this in a clean, comparable format so you can instantly see which slot has the higher ceiling.

Release Date & Provider You can compare whether you’re looking at:
A newer, modern slot with updated features.
Or a classic, older game that many players still love. And you can check if both are from the same provider or completely different studios.

As a slot player, I’m always looking to this information and it’s hard to manually do a comparison to the casino game browser itself it can’t display multiple slot games on single page.



@OP, Maybe add an option to compare more slot games instead of 2 slot games only. I notice that it’s very slow to load the slot games choices.
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Great job guys. I looked through the website and tried the comparison tool.

Folks who will benefit more from this are the oldies who already know that different slot games are have different providers and they are familiar with things like the RTP, multiplier and all.

@OP, Maybe add an option to compare more slot games instead of 2 slot games only. I notice that it’s very slow to load the slot games choices.
I agree with this feedback. It was something that I noticed too.

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January 26, 2026, 08:55:38 PM
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To be honest, it might be useful for those who change slot games most of the time. Because many times people get into playing slots without understanding, especially newbies, at least here there is an opportunity to see some information. From that perspective the idea is good. However it seems that many people might think that by comparing, they can win by playing this slot, which is not actually true, Slots are ultimately a game of luck. I think if the users can be explained a little more realistically, then this tool can really come in handy.
There are different slot games available so it is better for gamblers to select good and high RTP so that it can at least make them easily profitable when gambling. There are some slot games that are very hard to make profits and there are some that making profits will never be hard. If gamblers can choose games that have  high probability of turning into profits when played, it will be better than trying all games wanting to make profits from gambling with skill that is not sufficient enough to be profitable.

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We came up with the generous idea to develop a tool for comparing slots:



This looks interesting, but... but... how do you calculate expected return? Smiley Slots can be so tricky, and thinking about any "expected return" is silly. $20 per spin, and you can see thousands of dollars disappear after +100 spins without winning a bonus round or a big win. Been there, tried that...

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what you wrote is 100% correct, and the point of comparison is to show the probability of loosing and the rewarding, so the user know better, he/she takes huge risk to get chance for high output, or takes less risk, but the potential output is also lower

most of the players even do not understand it while choosing a slot, and here they can see what to expect from slot they heard about


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This looks interesting, but... but... how do you calculate expected return? Smiley Slots can be so tricky, and thinking about any "expected return" is silly. $20 per spin, and you can see thousands of dollars disappear after +100 spins without winning a bonus round or a big win. Been there, tried that...

Your generous idea, even though it looks interesting, is a bit misleading. Because you can't compare slots... any slot from any provider can give you a big win/bonus round/max win in the first spins or bonus buys! And any slot from any provider can ruin you and take everything you have with long streaks of dead spins and bonus rounds that give nothing.

It's all about luck... You can compare as long as you want, and you will get nothing. Give it a try, and you will see... just make sure you risk money you can afford to lose. Good luck.

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While similar solutions already exists, I like the idea of OP of giving a quick comparison of different slots. I would like to add just one perspective that people do not choose a particular slot for simply RTP reasons only. Experience of playing a slot matters a lot. It is very hard to quantify that aspect of any slot as humans are too subjective.

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January 26, 2026, 09:53:16 PM
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While similar solutions already exists, I like the idea of OP of giving a quick comparison of different slots. I would like to add just one perspective that people do not choose a particular slot for simply RTP reasons only. Experience of playing a slot matters a lot. It is very hard to quantify that aspect of any slot as humans are too subjective.

For me, RTP isn’t really a big deal, unless a casino is offering something close to 100% RTP, which usually only happens during promos or on some original games. I’ve been playing Pragmatic Play slots for weeks now, almost daily, and honestly it felt like a grind. I wasn’t hitting any big multipliers anymore, every session felt like a struggle.

That’s why I don’t put too much weight on RTP. What matters more to me is actually enjoying the game and, most importantly, the casino not messing around when it comes to withdrawals. If payouts are smooth, that’s already a big win for me.

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Update: We just release the version with the speed of search fix, could you please check now?
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pretty interesting and lots of information though as slots we can’t expect this to be always fully accurate but that applies to a lot of research/experiment so i believe this is the best you guys can do and it’s pretty helpful for anyone wanting these insights
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Thank you for checking, appreciate that, we will keep you posted for future updates.

Yes we are going to share in other places as well and we will really appreciate if the community can help us on this as well!

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pretty interesting and lots of information though as slots we can’t expect this to be always fully accurate but that applies to a lot of research/experiment so i believe this is the best you guys can do and it’s pretty helpful for anyone wanting these insights
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most of the players even do not understand it while choosing a slot, and here they can see what to expect from slot they heard about

Expect fun & entertainment... If the cover image, or maybe the name attract you, simply give it a try, but don't expect to win. That simply happens, or not.

Many people choose to play slots by watching RTP, and there's nothing wrong with that... but just because daily/weekly/general RTP is high, that doesn't mean it will be "generous" to you. What will happen, we found out only after we make a spin... so good luck to all players!

 
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I want to access your site but it just gives a blank screen, and when I turn off the VPN it loads fine, the display is simple but quite helpful. I'll try to compare just 2 games, it's just that what Benparaf said is true, the site is quite slow especially when opening the list of slot games, maybe because many people are accessing it.
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