Taxes.

[HITTI2]

Why should a Used item be taxed if sold?

If a used item gets sold 50 times, it gets taxed 50 times say like on ebay, amazon, 3rd party sites. Car dealerships, if a used car gets sold 3-4 times, that is 3-4 times taxed.

Taxation should be once @ new? Right?

Also this is irony at best. So construction workers reworked the landscape at the courthouse in my county and layed new sidewalks etc, the irony of this, these construction workers payed taxes for how ever many years to get payed for their work through their own taxes.

Cops/judges/public defenders/prosecutors/stenographers/county clerk workers all make money of the real hard working earning man "taxation", concrete layer, bridge maker, welder, mechanic, so on so forth.

You see the irony in this?

[Vod]

Why should a Used item be taxed if sold?

As long as an item is being sold, taxes pay for the expenses.  The government needs to maintain finance systems, policing, even maintain the roads to enable physical trade of goods.  It's no different than the taxation on value added goods.  Once a farmer pulls his wheat out of the ground it can pass through many stages (milled, baked, etc) before it ends up as a hamburger bun.   How would we pay for all these stages?

Taxes aren't fair, they are designed to generate revenue from the middle class hard working people.

The rich should have to pay their share.  Actually, the rich could support the economy with just their taxation.

[Findingnemo]

State taxes the transaction not really the item, which is why they consider every sale a taxable event.

And yeah from the outside it looks absurd because they simply chose to generate money over and over from the same product that is just changing hands but they call it as value creation while from an average joe it looks like stealing legally.

Taxes aren't fair, they are designed to generate revenue from the middle class hard working people.

[HITTI2]

Also this is irony at best. So construction workers reworked the landscape at the courthouse in my county and layed new sidewalks etc, the irony of this, these construction workers payed taxes for how ever many years to get payed for their work through their own taxes.

Cops/judges/public defenders/prosecutors/stenographers/county clerk workers all make money of the real hard working earning man "taxation", concrete layer, bridge maker, welder, mechanic, so on so forth.

You see the irony in this?

What ya think about, real worker payed taxes eventually comes back and the taxes pays themselves to do a job, basically working twice at one wage.

[programmer3666]

When it comes to understanding tax, it can make someone’s mind feel that high tension of frustration, but I think the way the governments see it, the tax is not actually on the object, perhaps it is on each transaction. Because if you look at it, is like every time the ownership changes, there is a new economic activity, so they take a cut again, even if the item is old. Maybe same logic apply to wages and public projects! The only funny and somehow ironic thing is that people pay their taxes and then get paid from the same taxfunded work.

[BADecker]

Taxes are based on two things, basically:
1. The taxing authority and its laws;
2. Your relationship to the taxing authority.

In the common law countries, generally the taxing authority has control only over artificial entities that it has issued documentation for. Generally, it does not have authority over the people, except if they agree to it. However, if there is a court battle, most people accept that they are artificial entities because of two things:
1. They don't know any better;
2. They don't want to fight (chickens, sheep).

Take the taxing authority laws, and look up the  legal definition of every word in those laws. Then look up the legal definitions of all of those words, and on and on. What it will finally come down to is that tax = fraud. Time to sue the fraudulent people in government for their fraudulent activity. Generally, this can start in invoice form - invoice them as men or women, not their government office. When they don't pay, take them to court for not paying an invoice.

In the USA, this has been made much simpler, with the Private Membership Association (PMA). Simply make and sign PMA paperwork between the buyer and seller. This takes it out of government into the private - government works only with the public, not the private. When written properly, a PMA makes the whole transaction private. It would be private, anyway. But government accepts when it is done this way... through 70+ Supreme Court cases that go back to the beginning of the country.





EDIT: Note that this has been the accepted model long before PMA paperwork came into being. It's why there are bars where you can smoke and drink in States that don't allow smoking and drinking... or why there are private nudist clubs when the State doesn't allow it.

[tvbcof]

I am genuinely concerned that supporting prima facia criminal enterprises (e.g., the ethnic cleansing in Gaza) through so-called 'taxes' or via other means may expose me to prosecution and punishment at some point in the future.

People who are ignorant of the nature of the crimes or financially illiterate are possibly 'off-the-hook' ethically and potentially legally, but for those who have availed of the evidence and nature of the criminal enterprise it may not be so easy.

Beyond that, a lot of people have no realistic alternative than to succumb to the extortion.  They too could possibly be granted leniency if/when trials and judgements were undertaken.

For those of us who have no such excuses, the only real option is to try to avoid becoming co-conspirators in, and enablers of, the ongoing crimes.  That doesn't mean not paying for services rendered, but it may mean, among other things, paying 'taxes' to entities who are less involved in crimes against humanity.

[montaga]

There used to be a time when the world function perfectly well only with alcohol and tobacco taxes. Then the community viruses also known also politicians came who make a very good living from the work of others. It should be volunteering  work done by people want to do good for the community.

[Ucy]

Depends on what the tax money is used for, and whether the sold item benefits directly/indirectly from what the money is used for any time it's resold. But if someone gets unjustly taxed, the one who initiated the idea, the ones who agreed to it, and probably those who benefit from the tax owe that person. So when it comes to taxing things that don't deserve taxing, it should be voluntary so that you don't become a debtor, and the one you are indebted to could have some kind of control over you


And don't overtax

[348Judah]

Why should a Used item be taxed if sold?

I want to believe that government cannot do justice to this issue of taxation, because some will be over charged for it and some undercharged, because not everything has the potential of being taxed and at the same time, people can indulge their way out and see that they evade every form of tax payment obligations with their smartness, but on a serious note, payment of tax should be well spent our on the areas that are mostly concerned in paying tax.

[Kelward]

State taxes the transaction not really the item, which is why they consider every sale a taxable event.

You have summarized everything with what you said,  a government will tax a product based on it's financial transactions not really about the product itself so if a product is resold 10 times they are entitled to a share of each transactions. As long as the item keeps changing hands through buying and selling they will keep taxing it until somebody decides not to sell or it becomes valueless. Take real estate for instant a property can change hands as many times as possible, some of the owners can sell for profit or problem, at profit or lose, no matter the reasons the government is interested to take it's own share in every transactions, that is the way it is. If a government doesn't have a fair tax policy that is another discussion.

[Merit.s]

Government has always been extorting the poor and middle class through tax. It's unfair that the rich bypass these taxes because they government has favored them. Taxing an item several time because it's changing ownership is very absurd but there is nothing anyone can do.

In my country, money gotten from tax is misused by the government, they don't use it all to develop the country because of corruption.

[$crypto$]

Government has always been extorting the poor and middle class through tax. It's unfair that the rich bypass these taxes because they government has favored them. Taxing an item several time because it's changing ownership is very absurd but there is nothing anyone can do.

In my country, money gotten from tax is misused by the government, they don't use it all to develop the country because of corruption.

The government doesn't care if you're poor or middle class, they have to pay taxes because it's the country's revenue --- while the rich can lobby officials to lower their corporate taxes, if the officials can be compromised anything can happen, right?

Just like in my country where there have been many cases of tax money being misused by officials, which should be for infrastructure.

[BADecker]

Depends on what the tax money is used for, and whether the sold item benefits directly/indirectly from what the money is used for any time it's resold. But if someone gets unjustly taxed, the one who initiated the idea, the ones who agreed to it, and probably those who benefit from the tax owe that person. So when it comes to taxing things that don't deserve taxing, it should be voluntary so that you don't become a debtor, and the one you are indebted to could have some kind of control over you


And don't overtax

That's why taxes in America are voluntary. If you want, pay.

If you want to remain outside of taxation in America, take it to court. Remain unrepresented in court (do your own talking, no attorney). Call your accuser to take the stand (an attorney won't, but will screw you). Your accuser on the indictment is "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" or "THE STATE OF XXXXXX."

They can't get on the stand because they are only paperwork. Case dismissed. But get it discharged.