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Today at 02:21:11 AM
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Currently , when any use previews or posts a PM , it is automatically saved as drafts. Now even if you delete the message from outbox, the content of.the message will.be saved as draft. Currently, there is no option for a bitcointalk member to be able to delete drafts. This.means that if your account is compromised , your deleted messages content can be exposed. Do you.think.there should be a delete all drafts feature to prevent this ?
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Today at 02:27:11 AM
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Do you.think.there should be a delete all drafts feature to prevent this ?

Gmail has it.  Great idea!

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Today at 02:38:58 AM
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I don't know PM have drafts and saved on the same place (draft page).

Even though there is 7 day expiry of the drafts, this option/feature is good to consider for privacy reasons knowing draft PMs are save there.

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Today at 03:35:40 AM
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It's good idea for privacy but I honestly don't know that deleted PMs will be stored in a draft page temporarily.

There are more information about PMs and how PMs stored as well as deleted. You can proactively delete your PMs, clean your draft page (if the forum has this feature in the future) but your PMs will be stored in PM receivers too.
https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php

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PMsUntil the sender and all recipients delete the PM, plus about 6 monthsAlways encrypt sensitive PMs. Regularly delete old incoming and outgoing PMs so that they don't linger in our database longer than necessary. Note also that PMs are often emailed in cleartext to the recipients by bitcointalk.org.
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Today at 04:21:25 AM
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PM being present in receivers inbox is not a big issue because if you delete a PM and then also drafts, no one can see the message if your account is compromised. There is very less chance that the hacker can gain access to receiver account as well to see the same message.

The probability of one account getting compromised and the hacker being able to see the deleted messages through drafts is much higher.
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Today at 05:44:42 AM
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It's good idea for privacy but I honestly don't know that deleted PMs will be stored in a draft page temporarily.
That's not what he meant.
If you press preview before sending a PM, the content of your message will be saved in the post draft. Just tested it, and it's true. I support this proposal; other suggestions, add a separate draft space or just exclude the draft holding the outbox content preview.

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Today at 06:08:45 AM
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It's good idea for privacy but I honestly don't know that deleted PMs will be stored in a draft page temporarily.
That's not what he meant.
If you press preview before sending a PM, the content of your message will be saved in the post draft. Just tested it, and it's true.


To add to it, even if you do not click preview. And just send any message, it is saved in drafts. Suppose you shared something private and that message and delete it later, it will still be present in drafts for 7 days and there is currently no option to clear that message in drafts.
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Today at 06:57:52 AM
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I think you're looking for a problem that doesn't exist. If you're worried about your account getting compromised, improve your account (and system) security. If you're worried about someone reading your deleted PM, you shouldn't have sent it unencrypted in the first place. Even without compromising your account, Cloudflare can read anything you send. But if you really want to delete your Drafts, just click "Preview" 100 times Smiley

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Today at 07:05:27 AM
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But if you really want to delete your Drafts, just click "Preview" 100 times Smiley

Does that sound practical ? The forum also has some responsibility. You cannot give all the responsibility for security on the user.

Like there are replies above from members who are using forum for years and they are not aware that PM are saved as drafts. The forum does not inform users while creating a new message that they are saved in drafts. The drafts feature was just announced ina thread which most would not have even looked at.
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Today at 08:23:59 AM
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Currently , when any use previews or posts a PM , it is automatically saved as drafts. Now even if you delete the message from outbox, the content of.the message will.be saved as draft. Currently, there is no option for a bitcointalk member to be able to delete drafts. This.means that if your account is compromised , your deleted messages content can be exposed. Do you.think.there should be a delete all drafts feature to prevent this ?
As much as I wish Bitcointalk had all functions, just know that it can't be 100% private.

For this, advice: a message that you take so dearly to protect to the point that deleting it from the Outbox is not enough, and still want to delete it further elsewhere, should be entirely avoided from being discussed on the forum. You guys could go to external communication channels like Telegram to discuss such.

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Today at 08:37:04 AM
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...Like there are replies above from members who are using forum for years and they are not aware that PM are saved as drafts. The forum does not inform users while creating a new message that they are saved in drafts. The drafts feature was just announced ina thread which most would not have even looked at.

It's mentioned here though: https://talkimg.com/image/UES8Id

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Today at 09:21:39 AM
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But if you really want to delete your Drafts, just click "Preview" 100 times Smiley
Does that sound practical ?
Not really, but it's more realistic than expecting the forum to add a "Delete" button for such a rare request.

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The forum also has some responsibility. You cannot give all the responsibility for security on the user.
Sure you can. Each PM you send, has this disclaimer:
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Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

The forum does not inform users while creating a new message that they are saved in drafts.
That's a good point. Under each post, I see this:
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Click preview to save a draft.
It would make sense to also add that under PMs.

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Today at 09:35:03 AM
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But if you really want to delete your Drafts, just click "Preview" 100 times Smiley
Does that sound practical ?
Not really, but it's more realistic than expecting the forum to add a "Delete" button for such a rare request.

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The forum also has some responsibility. You cannot give all the responsibility for security on the user.
Sure you can. Each PM you send, has this disclaimer:
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Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.

The forum does not inform users while creating a new message that they are saved in drafts.
That's a good point. Under each post, I see this:
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Click preview to save a draft.
It would make sense to also add that under PMs.

Something like this under PM
" When you click preview or send a message, it is saved as draft " with draft hyperlinked to respective page .
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