Newbies calling scam in ANN threads

[ZeroVinsonN]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

In this day and age you can't just be throwing accusations around with proof and expect people to believe you, if you got scammed then shoe proof that you were scammed rather than throwing an emotional tantrum, someone who doesn't like a particular casino can call them scammers, their competition might even do it so it's not exactly easy to believe information like this when you see it, but if it came with proof then no one would be able to question it as long as the proof is solid.

[Crypto Library]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.
So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.
How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

The issue here is not that those newbies are doing this kind of activity due to their lack of knowledge. Rather, there is an issue here that they are basically trying to reduce the reputation of the casinos by pretending to be newbies or competitors of that casino or platform.
However, I think if they are making baseless assumptions without any evidence, then when those posts come to our attention, we should quote them and take action against them, and at the same time report them to the moderators. I think in this case, maybe they won't see those kinds of spam posts anymore.

[len01]

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

There are several reasons why newbie accounts do that.

• They lose a large amount of money gambling on a certain casino and end up venting their emotions in that ANN thread.
• Losing a big win or getting banned from a gambling site due to their own mistake, but instead of admitting it, they choose to harshly accuse the casino.
• Business rivalry, which happens quite often.

This is quite common, and from what I’ve observed, in most ANN threads there’s almost always a newbie saying negative things about a particular casino.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

It's a waste of energy responding to complaints or accusations without evidence. Nothing we say will ever satisfy them. Because to them, what they say is true, and what we say is always considered false. So, ignoring is the best way.

[LogitechMouse]

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So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

I do visit the "Scam Accusation" section on a daily basis, and even though I'm not commenting on them, I'm at least reading a bit of them, and I also saw that most of them are newbies.

TBH, it can go either way. There might be newbies out there that are just ruining the reputation of the accused exchange, or they might be telling the truth. Let's not forget that this isn't the only platform where they're promoting gambling websites, but on others as well. There might be some out there that don't have any account here, they got scammed by this particular website, and learned that they can get some help here thus, they'll create a newbie account just for them to share what happened, and at first, they will not know the format, but they just want to share what happened.

Some accusations might be true, and some might be not. What's good here is that, we have reputable members addressing each case in a professional way. We can just ignore them if we feel that they're just trolling, but there might be some that are telling the truth... or do they?

[AVE5]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

At the mentioned of newbies in that sequence I knew something must be wrong. They usually twist contexts either to how it suits them without concerned about the networks protocols and policies.
They think here's such a social media platforms where people misbehaves with their actions.
I learnt most of those newbie users that only comes here to cause commotion on dragging casino's of scam or unjustifiable attitude to users are on the mission of tarnishing the image of that casino. And putting considerations to it could be true because it's pointless when you can't provide proof of your claims against the casino.

[Davidvictorson]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

I have noticed it too. And there is an ongoing case in the 2UP.io ANN thread. Thankfully, the casino reps where very tactful in their reply and in their investigations. In addition there are many users on this forum that have written positive review about their experiences at the casino. In the past, someone said it those baseless accusations (not all of them are scams though) are perpetrated by competitors to de-market them. If there is some truth or not to this, I do not know. What I do know is that those casino reps should continue to do their thorough investigations of these accusations and provide reports on it rather than keep silent.

[alegotardo]

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

Just like the casinos must be doing, I simply disregard it.

It's already difficult, sometimes, to believe a full member or higher account complaining about fraud without being able to provide concrete evidence, and you think we should believe newbie accounts too?

Of course, I am sure there must be some real reports from people who had problems and came here to the forum because that is usually the first result that search engines recommend, and then to make the complaint public these people need to create a new account, but when they do that they should at least provide more concrete evidence, host an image on an external hosting service and put the URL here, and have at least a complete account of the problem.

But what most people do is just create a "rant" about the money lost, and even if it is real, I think that many times this happens simply because people do not know how the rules work or even because they believed that the casino was obligated to pay them to play, like what they see in the unrealistic ads they watch.

Anyway... irrelevant, just disregard it.

[sunsilk]

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

There are some them that are serious but if they have been given an option or reason by the support and they can't accept it, I think that there's already a verdict about it.

It's for them to think of it and justify the reasoning of the support because it's hard to alter and accept that.

Anyway... irrelevant, just disregard it.

Good thoughts, that's how it should be.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

Well, how i treat such posts is that first, I will have to respond to the comment instructing the poster on the right things to do to create a proper scam accusation against the casino in question if really indeed the poster have been scammed by the casino but the poster as a newbie on this forum doesn't know or understand the process to legitimately and officially creating a scam accusation against the casino.

I don't usually ignore such posts when I come across one because as a matter of fact, they poster may be telling the truth, they may have been scammed truly but like I said above, they lack knowledge on how or which board to present their scam accusations case against the casino, so I just direct them in the right direction.
And the thing is that, if after that guidance, the poster proceeds to following the instructions and creating/moving the accusation to the right board and also providing the necessary proofs, then they likely have a case with the casino indeed, while those who don't respond to such instructions are likely nothing but bad losers looking for a way to get back at the casino.

[xLays]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

Everything you mentioned is possible. I’ve seen similar thread before, either in separate threads or directly in casino ANN threads.
Sometimes user posts an issue, and later it gets resolved quickly. That makes me wonder if, in some cases it could even be part of their advertising strategy. If that’s true, then I think it’s a stupid strategy. lol
Even if the issue gets resolved, it still creates doubt about the casino’s reputation. Yes, some people say good or bad publicity is still publicity, but I don’t think this is smart way to promote your casino..

[Slow death]

I’ve noticed in many active gambling ANN threads that some newbies just post scam accusation against a casino without any proof. No proper accusation, no format, no evidence,  just an explanation.

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

Being new to a forum shouldn't be a reason to look down on someone. The most important thing is to look at the content the person wrote and then investigate further to verify its accuracy. There have been many cases where newcomers were correct; I've even seen cases where casinos that claimed to have a great reputation were wrong, and I've seen cases where exchanges that claimed to have a good reputation were wrong. At the end of the day, people need to read carefully and investigate, and not get hung up on things like: "He's new, he didn't post any proof, I won't take him seriously."

[livingfree]

So it makes me wonder if these are real warnings or just emotional posts from people who lost money or don’t understand how gambling sites work. Real scams exist, sure, but throwing accusations like this doesn’t really help.

Can be both.

I've seen those complains done by a newbie that tend to be true. If they didn't let the community knew about their situation, there won't be any resolve happening.

But since they've made a noise, the casino that's involved in that accusation took action and helped them.

So sometimes they're true but, at most times they are not.

[Samlucky O]

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

i have seen this set of people creating useless and meaningless thread all the time against some reputable casino without no tangible reason or explanation, the funny part is that most of this people are not newbies like you think, they are well knowledgeable people in this forum that are doing that. sometimes i wonder how much they are paid to do that. its not a surprise that when market becomes competitive, allegations are made to tannish the image of some business, just to bring them down. for me any allegation without prove is already dead on arrival so i dont listen to them except there claims are legit and verified by many users before it can be putting into consideration. some people are just so bettered to the extent that if they lose so much in a casino and it happens that they have little issue with that casino, instead of contacting their customer care, they will prefer just to say negative things just to tarnish there image because they are losing.

[Cityhunter34]

Accusation without a proof is absolutely meaningless, where are you going to start from? That should be the question because there is a high possiblity that such accusation can only be made when the gambling site it's not in there favor or something else just to make difficult for them forgetting that accusation without evidence would never go anywhere.

Obviously they might have do something wrong in gambling site or not following the rules of the casino and end losing their funds because it is very common with the new beginners.

[GiftedMAN]

Accusation without a proof is absolutely meaningless, where are you going to start from? That should be the question because there is a high possiblity that such accusation can only be made when the gambling site it's not in there favor or something else just to make difficult for them forgetting that accusation without evidence would never go anywhere.

Obviously they might have do something wrong in gambling site or not following the rules of the casino and end losing their funds because it is very common with the new beginners.

Some times I think some of the baseless accusations you see from newbies are as a result of frustration after suffering so much losses in the casinos without winning when you see them coming out to say a lot of things without proof just know that it's coming from pains and sadness since they couldn't win after trying so many times they want to paint the particular casino bad so that they will lose some of their customers who will be believing what they saw even without proof. The best thing is for the representative of the casinos to always try to clear their names when they see such accusations so that it doesn't affect their brand.

[michellee]

Unless they can providing evidence, we don't have to take them seriously. We don't knows the real stories so we can't say much. But we can reading their complains and how the casino reacts to the accusation.

I just wonder how they finding the casino that gets them into trouble. If they can be careful choosing the casino and always research before they selects, they will avoid the scams or other bad things. But we can't blaming them because not many will aware of scams casinos.

They thinks that if they come here and complain, that can solves their problem. They should introspect what happens to them, they should realize that the mistake will be on them. No one suggests to depositing thousands dollars especially if they are newcomers in the casino, even if the casino is old and have good reputations.

[Orpichukwu]

I think accusations should always follow the forum format: clear claim, timeline, evidence and attempt to resolve with the casino first. Emotional posts without proof don’t help anyone, while real scam reports with proper documentation are important and should be taken seriously. For me, the difference is evidence and structure, not account age.

Some of these people don't know how to file for proper scam accusations; some of them take correction immediately when they are pointed in the right direction, while there is a set which just comes to post out of emotions and never comes back to the thread to provide more details about what they are accusing a casino of, and anyone who doesn't provide such details has their accusation always ignored.

[Kelward]

This forum is a public space where there is no restrictions to anybody that wants to register therefore you should expect all mannerisms of posts, we shouldn't take seriously what every newbie account says that doesn't have reputation in the forum. If there is meaning in any accusations in an ANN thread or scam accusations then it can be taken seriously if not it's to ignore such accusations. Baseless accusations could be as a result of ignorance on the part of a new gambler or they just want to tarnish the reputation of a casino in the forum. Whatever it is we in the forum knows better when someone is trying to be mischievous.

[retreat]

How do you usually treat these posts, do you take them seriously or ignore them unless there’s a proper scam accusation with evidence?

If it comes from a newbie, 90% of the time it's bullshit. Only a handful of those are genuine scam accusations. So if a newbie tells you to stay away from a particular casino, they're likely just haters or losing gamblers who are unhappy with the casino. Most of the time, I'll just ignore such accusations unless they provide concrete evidence to back up their claims.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I wouldn’t trust any account, but especially a newbie, if they don’t provide any substantial evidence. Anybody can create a new account and make whatever claim they want. It is easy to abuse the forum in this way. Some of these people are even using AI to write their accusations, which makes it even less credible.

If you do have a genuine complaint, you can take your case to Casino Guru or Ask Gamblers and then make a formal scam accusation on the forum. You have to use the proper channels to have the best chance of getting a favorable resolution. Smear attacks are not the correct way of doing things.