Can a mathematician figure out how to win in gambling?

[Smartprofit]

During the Thirty Years' War in Europe, people knew less about gambling than they do today. 🙋

Therefore, leading mathematicians of the time set themselves the task of developing effective strategies for winning at games of chance. This led to the creation of mathematical probability theory. At that time, most nobles and military men enjoyed playing dice. Aristocrats preferred playing cards. This was a very fashionable game at royal courts (you can read about this in the novels of Alexandre Dumas). Accordingly, leading European mathematicians solved practical problems of winning at dice. They discovered that certain dice combinations came up more often than other dice combinations. Therefore, these mathematicians began to study the probabilities of various events. At that time, mathematicians could actually win at gambling.💁

However, today, mathematical probability theory is taught in the first year of technical universities. Consequently, all managers of online casinos and bookmakers are well versed in probability theory. Therefore, mathematicians no longer have a competitive advantage in gambling.

[Frankolala]

What about in predictions can't a mathematician prediction match correctly with his level of how he knows maths ,this is confusing am still trying to get it correctly,if pool predictions can be solved with is the different between pool and normal match prediction and I think mathematician can do better in it.

Is a football match statistics or probability. It's a game on the pitch that the best and strongest will win their opponents and not a dice game or poker game. If you're a mathematician and have no knowledge about the two clubs playing a match, your mathematics knowledge is useless. So don't get it twisted.

[alastantiger]

Some times I ask my self this question,when I was much younger schooling in secondary school I saw one of my teacher who is a mathematician he solve different maths algebra, statistics,in fact they normally pay him to teach in many private school,but till now he is still suffering in the local community,and this question enter my mind if mathematician can solve different equations why can't them be the richest in gambling.
Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

Your opinion is highly appreciated.

Gambling is largely based on luck and not intelligence or any mathematical skill so while mathematics can help someone understand odds and probabilities, it cannot accurately predict future events like football matches. These games are influenced by many unpredictable factors like injuries, decisions, form, and chances, making them impossible to solve like algebra or statistics. that is why a mathematician may be very intelligent yet not rich from gambling. In fact, understanding probability often shows that gambling favors the house in the long run. Mathematics can manage risk, but it cannot remove uncertainty and luck ultimately plays the biggest role in gambling outcomes.

[robelneo]

...and this question enter my mind if mathematician can solve different equations why can't them be the richest in gambling.
Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

They can only try, and their chances are no different from those of gamblers who finish secondary. If math can solve the question of how to win in gambling and beat the casinos, then all mathematicians will just gamble and become extremely rich, and the math course will be the most in-demand course because it's the easiest way to get rich.
So far, there is no course or profession that can beat the odds in gambling; we can only try.

[ZeroVinsonN]

Some times I ask my self this question,when I was much younger schooling in secondary school I saw one of my teacher who is a mathematician he solve different maths algebra, statistics,in fact they normally pay him to teach in many private school,but till now he is still suffering in the local community,and this question enter my mind if mathematician can solve different equations why can't them be the richest in gambling.
Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

Your opinion is highly appreciated.

Maths is more or less universally set rules that are just waiting for someone to discover and make them known to the rest of the world, this implies that it has very strict rules that govern it even though some might call it fluid, the point is you can break away from it's rule you have to follow them, gambling has so many factors that make it impossible for them to follow these set of rule, luck being a major factor that never agrees with maths, maths works better with probability and not luck and that's where the bookmakers trap people telling them they can win with probability without letting them know that probability in gambling is just luck.

[WhoYouCantKill]

Is a football match statistics or probability. It's a game on the pitch that the best and strongest will win their opponents and not a dice game or poker game. If you're a mathematician and have no knowledge about the two clubs playing a match, your mathematics knowledge is useless. So don't get it twisted.

Maybe in certain skill based games, we can say it’s possible for gamblers to use mathematics or some form of calculations to figure out how to start winning on such games, but as long as sports betting is concerned? There’s absolutely nothing like that, sports betting is a game of luck, chance, probability and randomness and calculation would therefore be ineffective or not very effective as some people would think. Not saying maths or calculation is completely useless, but that’s far from being the major determinant of a gambler’s success.

[aioc]

Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

Mathematicians are good at compiling statistics and probability, but when it comes to the final results, there are conditions and scenarios beyond statistics and probability.
I have a friend who is good at stats, data, and probability, but cannot achieve perfect results in gambling; they may win occasionally, but cannot do so consistently. However, someone who is good at math may have a good chance of winning, but it's still on a case-by-case basis.

[MRY]

Is a football match statistics or probability. It's a game on the pitch that the best and strongest will win their opponents and not a dice game or poker game. If you're a mathematician and have no knowledge about the two clubs playing a match, your mathematics knowledge is useless. So don't get it twisted.

Maybe in certain skill based games, we can say it’s possible for gamblers to use mathematics or some form of calculations to figure out how to start winning on such games, but as long as sports betting is concerned? There’s absolutely nothing like that, sports betting is a game of luck, chance, probability and randomness and calculation would therefore be ineffective or not very effective as some people would think. Not saying maths or calculation is completely useless, but that’s far from being the major determinant of a gambler’s success.

Opinions on the ground frequently bring down all numerical theories because human factors such as the psychological condition of an athlete cannot be accurately ascertained by applying some mathematical equation. Statistic should be considered as an appendix but not as a main source of making decisions with high stakes. I think luck is also still a major aspect and thus we should still be on alert not to fall into the lure of the false sense of security that previous information can bring.

[Zackz5000]

There is absolutely nothing a mathematician can figure out on how he can win in gambling, gambling is not a mathematical calculation you must know the strength of both team playing before you know possibly option to bet on, gambling is basically on your experience and a game of lucky, where a mathematician can display his skill is in the class room and not in the gambling hall unless the mathematician has a gambling experience and skill before he will lucky to win sometimes but not through his mathematical knowledge.

[STT]

Gambling is maths in the probability and statistics at least and its even taught in maths via fractions and odds and ratios for all kinds of problems to all age ranges so far as I know.   The bigger question is the maths any advantage when gambling and thats a big maybe with alot of reasons why it wont help too much but it wont do any harm imo.

[bakasabo]

People cant predict the weather with 100% accuracy. Analysts can't predict prices, even with all the necessary statistics, and their forecasts are less dependent on chance. Someone wants mathematics, a study with thousands years of experience, to predict gambling. That is never going to happen. If that would be possible, people would have calculated everything already. I believe mathematics can only optimize gameplay, but can not influence on winning.

[Asuspawer09]

Surely not going to happen if a mathematician is able to predict the accurate winning on gambling using only numbers, then for sure we would have seen a lot of rich mathematicians by now.

But for sure I see someone that is good in number can increase there chances of winning in some games, I mean there are card games that have some what they called counting cards so they would probably know the probability of the other cards if it is still going to appear or it is not going to appear in the game anymore, with that chances they would know somehow the percentage if it is a good thing to take the chance to bet high or low, for sure if the chances of winning is up around like 80% for sure it is a good move to bet a higher amount since you know that might probably win. Still, there are 20% chance of losin,g which is impossible to predict so it is still going to depend on luck even though you have a good chance of winning.

But on some slot games knowing the numbers is just gonna be useless since it is all just a bunch of code, or probably might even be rigged all the way for you to lose everything.

[Wapfika]

Surely not going to happen if a mathematician is able to predict the accurate winning on gambling using only numbers, then for sure we would have seen a lot of rich mathematicians by now.

But on some slot games knowing the numbers is just gonna be useless since it is all just a bunch of code, or probably might even be rigged all the way for you to lose everything.

Actually the code that built casino games is based on numbers. The only reason why it can’t be predicted since the result was generated randomly using an algorithm that impossible to analyze since games are typically close source.

There’s no point on calculating a randomizer result since it doesn’t have formula or patterns.

Being a mathematician can only help to determine the winning chances but it doesn’t change the outcome of the game.

[Itz-prisigold]

I believe the main reason that Mathematicians do not automatically have a fortune  because of gambling is that there is much more to gambling than just numbers.  It is based on probability, the unpredictable nature of chance and good luck (or bad).  While mathematics will be able to tell you the probability of something occurring / identify patterns; however, it cannot make an event occur randomly and therefore cannot assure the outcome of an event.

Mathematics provides many skills that are extremely valuable, however, this does not allow you to accurately predict every occurrence in your life.  Someone could understand the odds better than everyone and still lose.  That is because gambling is not clean and certain. To me,  the best gambling is not simply "solving" the equation.  Gambling is just about strategy,  discipline, and managing risk.

[blomen]

no matter how good you are at math, you cannot beat traditional games -roulette, blackjack, or any game with a fixed rtp- without breaking the rules or using some kind of trick that no one knows about. but i have seen some people beat the lottery with amazing mathematical calculations. the main reason for this is that in the past, when minor errors were made in rollovers or other payout adjustments in lotteries, no one noticed them. some mathematicians who noticed these errors discovered that they could make an average profit of a certain amount on every lottery ticket they bought. this way, they bought as many lottery tickets as they wanted until it was noticed, and they earned their money legally. it wouldn't be accurate to say that mathematics beat gambling here. it was just incorrect calculations.

[noorman0]

If a mathematician gambles, I am sure he is not betting because of the results of mathematical calculations. Even if the calculations said the current round had a 90% chance, they wouldn't bet all their money.

Mathematicians are not ideal long-term gamblers, instead they are recruited to create gambling machines that they claim are "provably fair". This is the key word why the mathematical formula applied cannot create a gap from randomness.

[LOVER BOY 422]

For the fact that a person is great at mathematics should mean he would do numbers with winning streaks should he be gambling because most often than not it's not about how much calculations you put into the game before staking that determines the outcome, just be that person who's very lucky and effortlessly you can be making profits more often while someone somewhere with all that equations and calculations about a game be it casino games or sports hasn't made a single win after multiple plays.

Ironically, the more a person understand about mathematics, the least likely if for such person to start gambling in the first place, you know?

Being good at math or being a professional which is involved in the world of mathematics, implies one has a very solid knowledge on statistics, which is the branch of math that studies chances. And knowing how statistically one is destined to lose on casinos, it would be reasonable for anyone to become discouraged to gamble.

There is a saying I read somewhere on the internet about lotteries and those who played them: "Mathematicians do not play lottery".

They will not play lottery games because they can easily check out the possibilities of winning how naive it is right ?and they leave the game ,I understand you perfectly,but in other words mathematician can also figure out some predictions very well that's why I ask the question,many of them are into gambling and prediction they are supposed to be winning always but NO the possibilities is not easy I know that they are normal human like us ,but I was thinking their brain would be different from others in times of thinking in gambling.

[Gost ms]

Some times I ask my self this question,when I was much younger schooling in secondary school I saw one of my teacher who is a mathematician he solve different maths algebra, statistics,in fact they normally pay him to teach in many private school,but till now he is still suffering in the local community,and this question enter my mind if mathematician can solve different equations why can't them be the richest in gambling.
Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

Your opinion is highly appreciated.

Gambling is largely based on luck and not intelligence or any mathematical skill so while mathematics can help someone understand odds and probabilities, it cannot accurately predict future events like football matches. These games are influenced by many unpredictable factors like injuries, decisions, form, and chances, making them impossible to solve like algebra or statistics. that is why a mathematician may be very intelligent yet not rich from gambling. In fact, understanding probability often shows that gambling favors the house in the long run. Mathematics can manage risk, but it cannot remove uncertainty and luck ultimately plays the biggest role in gambling outcomes.

Yes I completely agree with you. If someone could be good at math and win at gambling, everyone would practice this method. Then the richest person in the world would probably be a math teacher. Gambling is completely based on luck. Knowing the right math may help you manage your money. But that doesn't mean you will be able to win at math. It seems to me that how you can win at a casino game with math is impossible.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Some times I ask my self this question,when I was much younger schooling in secondary school I saw one of my teacher who is a mathematician he solve different maths algebra, statistics,in fact they normally pay him to teach in many private school,but till now he is still suffering in the local community,and this question enter my mind if mathematician can solve different equations why can't them be the richest in gambling.
Is this different and difficult for them to solve and figure out who is supposed to win or score in the next rounds in football?

Your opinion is highly appreciated.

Aside from that man from your community, there are other world recognised and renowned mathematicians in different parts of the world, no news has ever had it that any of this men managed to crack the code of any gambling game thereby winning in millions or even billions of dollars, this is already an indicator that being very good in math does not make you any luckier than math dullards when it comes to gambling.

Slot and casino games are pure luck based games with a house edge, if it was possible to increase chances of winning in this game by simply being good in maths, then what this means is that this games would have become a knowledge based game instead of being a luck based game, and even if a mathematician tries to make use of knowledge to win, the house edge is another obstacle that can't be beaten by math.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

Gambling is probability, mostly sports betting and has no specific formula or principle, no mathematical professionalism, that can guarantee wining when one lack luck, though many claimed on fixed matches even with fixed matches there is no formula, many who seem themselves as prediction giant still get disappointed after prediction with all time and energy invested in some search towards the said betting. I don't see maths having power to win gambling but only make it easier for a gambler to speed up analysis while trying to find possible means of staking.