Epstein knew about Bitcoin back in 2011

[Alphakilo]

I have heard so much about the Epstein files and until now knew he actually had more than just an interest in Bitcoin, but also invested about $3million in Coinbase in 2014 and also Block stream of which he was an early investor.
He was actively trying to get a sit at the table by contacting, influencing and even sponsoring developers in this regard during cryptocurrency's infancy.
Bitcoin turned out just about right now and he saw this and would have had a major influence by now.

[Hamza2424]

Well, what do you think? If in case, what people are saying about the Epstein case like it has linked to bitcoin, and what if it is true? Can this damage the Bitcoin market? Well, if I have to share my personal point of view on this, then I would say this can be kind of market manipulation, and it can only damage the bitcoin market in the short term. What do you think about it?

I was also shocked to see hawking name, like wth he be doing there, his body is dead but the brain. What I can say, everything has already have happened and now they are dumping the data like they don't care about their rich or elite class anymore or that they don't care so they have allowed.

The recent ritual images or kid bodies, and how people are connecting them to eating humans is insane, anything we see on social media is fake and I avoid all this and suggest the same.

But bro, market is already down, the reason is this fud.

[Call_Me_Guru]

Jeffery Epstein is one of the rich and capable figures that are the dumbest with Bitcoin despite their early exposure to it. In 2011, he described Bitcoin as a "brilliant idea" but also talked about the "serious flaws" and "serious risks". The risk is acceptable, but which flaws?

Aren't the richest taking risks to be richer? No risk, no outstanding gain. He was capable but just blew the opportunity away. He should be one of the biggest Bitcoin-made billionaires in the world. He was just funding one project or the other since then and allowing them to us his properties cor events. But sadly didn't plan to HODL. That's a shame.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

We only know about his idea and thought over bitcoin as at then, but today, what can we right about Jeffery Epstein regarding his influence or impact over bitcoin, are we even sure he invest at all, maybe the kind of statement he made in the past caused his to be more recognized with the traces they are making with his awareness over bitcoin right form time, but we cant establish any fact about that, so i still see him as just an ordinary influencer as at then and not even now that he is no more and bitcoin continue to be.

[aylabadia05]

Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

The discussion about Epstein has become very interesting lately, not just because of those rumors. There are also links being made to some of the world's major figures. There's never been any evidence that he was Satoshi. Many speculate, but without proof, we can only regard him like everyone else who owns and trades Bitcoin. Still, this news is quite intriguing to follow, though some media may have made it seem exaggerated.

It is true that this has become a hot topic of serious discussion because everything was revealed in a file. But when I found out about Epstein, I wondered if this was true because it involved big names from almost all over the world.
Regarding the pandemic, I am one of those who think it is just a business ploy, even though I am someone who avoids getting vaccinated and I don't care about the sanctions I will receive at that time.
I discussed this with ChatGPT, and the machine said that the Epstein file is real, but its contents can be twisted.
I don't agree that this has anything to do with Bitcoin and Satoshi.

[noormcs5]

A June 2011 letter found in the “Epstein files” shows Epstein calling Bitcoin a “brilliant idea” while warning about “serious flaws.”
According to CryptoQuant founder Ki Young Ju, Epstein invested in BTC and crypto projects but never believed Bitcoin would go mainstream. Instead of holding, he preferred trading.
In a 2017 exchange, he simply replied “No” when asked whether Bitcoin was worth buying..
According to Odaily, Epstein was aware of Bitcoin by 2011 and engaged with the early crypto community via emails, discussions with tech figures, and connections to ventures tied to the Bitcoin ecosystem  but there’s no verified evidence that he was involved with Bitcoin’s creation or that he held any foundational role.
Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

I don't believe in all this Sh*t. What I understand is that in every bear market there is catalyst being developed that bitcoin will go to zero, people dump and we see bitcoin making bottom. Same things and same pattern are repeating this time too.

If you see social media, people are saying that if the bitcoin owner is revealed, bitcoin will go to zero, and then they are claiming Epstein is the founder of bitcoin, all this to make people sell and trigger the bear market. Sad, people are selling their bitcoins once again.

All this Epstein fud will fade away soon but only the weak hands will end up selling bitcoin in loss.

[aoluain]

Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

So I am taking the foundational development to be all the cryptography projects which went before
Bitcoin and probably influenced Satoshi.

Projects like David Chaums ECash, Adam Backs HashCash and Wei Dai's BMoney. There is no mention
of Epstein being part of those. Playing Devils advocate mayoe, big maybe he was employed at some
stage to code or something but would already have come out in the wash at theis stage.

Just because he was positive about Bitcoin doesnt mean he was a friend of Satoshi's or anyone else
of importance.

The Cyphrtpunks ^above more than likely moved in a completely circle to Epsteins circle!

[BlackHatCoiner]

TL;DR of the Epstein FUD:

• Yes, it's true that Epstein funded some bitcoin developers.
• Yes, it's true they found the technology brilliant for sending and receiving money, easily with no third parties, and definitely for money laundering.
• No, it does not mean bitcoin was "hijacked". In fact, the versions of BCash and BSV are exactly the type of forks team Epstein envisioned. What they intended was to increase the block size, and centralize bitcoin. The Epstein guys did not manage to pull this off, and went to plan B which is to buy all the bitcoin.

Thank me later.

[betswift]

TL;DR of the Epstein FUD:

• Yes, it's true that Epstein funded some bitcoin developers.
• Yes, it's true they found the technology brilliant for sending and receiving money, easily with no third parties, and definitely for money laundering.
• No, it does not mean bitcoin was "hijacked". In fact, the versions of BCash and BSV are exactly the type of forks team Epstein envisioned. What they intended was to increase the block size, and centralize bitcoin. The Epstein guys did not manage to pull this off, and went to plan B which is to buy all the bitcoin.

Thank me later.

Just as always - control is all they want Through any means there may be.

[Mate2237]

You mentioned that Epstein got to know Bitcoin around 2011 but didn't believe in Bitcoin up to the point of holding it but only tried to trading it, this shows that he were not part of the creation of Bitcoin. Trying to bring Epstein to the creation of Bitcoin will not make any change to what is already working very perfectly. From the day that Bitcoin white paper that was launched no body has been any change the working principles of Bitcoin especially, Bitcoin proof of work this shows that the creator of Bitcoin has remained a mystery and until we see anyone who comes up to change the Bitcoin programming system I will not give much attention to anyone trying to Link Bitcoin to anyone.



That someone got to know about Bitcoin back then doesn't make that he was part of the creation of Bitcoin, there were a lot of things that were exposed in the Epstein file so trying to Link Epstein to Bitcoin creation is ridiculous to mem

[devlin85]

A June 2011 letter found in the “Epstein files” shows Epstein calling Bitcoin a “brilliant idea” while warning about “serious flaws.”
According to CryptoQuant founder Ki Young Ju, Epstein invested in BTC and crypto projects but never believed Bitcoin would go mainstream. Instead of holding, he preferred trading.
In a 2017 exchange, he simply replied “No” when asked whether Bitcoin was worth buying..
According to Odaily, Epstein was aware of Bitcoin by 2011 and engaged with the early crypto community via emails, discussions with tech figures, and connections to ventures tied to the Bitcoin ecosystem  but there’s no verified evidence that he was involved with Bitcoin’s creation or that he held any foundational role.
Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

there is no credible evidence that epstrin was ever involved in the foundational development of bitcoin. epstien knew manyyy wealthy and powerful individuals globally so he may have had some kind of imput of the way of advice and thoughts at the time of it early development. bitcoin and the creation surrounding it has actual be well documented and epstien was never originally mention. also the fact he never held any bitcoin shows us that he never thought it would be a success so why waste his time. the creator of bitcoin no actually know their really identity if it one individuals or more this has remained anonymous until now. so everything is speculation and people ideas and thought but with out the actual evidence who knows

[GreatArkansas]

(....)
According to CryptoQuant founder Ki Young Ju, Epstein invested in BTC and crypto projects but never believed Bitcoin would go mainstream. Instead of holding, he preferred trading.
In a 2017 exchange, he simply replied “No” when asked whether Bitcoin was worth buying..
(....)
Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

If these are all true, then for me, it's a NO. Like, based on his statement, he is not believing with Bitcoin's future, so if you really into Bitcoin, especially if you are a part of of foudnation team, for sure you will recommend Bitcoin to other and you will support and believe in it.
There are even some people telling Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto (this is already far beyond).

[MusaMohamed]

If these are all true, then for me, it's a NO. Like, based on his statement, he is not believing with Bitcoin's future, so if you really into Bitcoin, especially if you are a part of of foudnation team, for sure you will recommend Bitcoin to other and you will support and believe in it.

People of course can buy bitcoins, invest their money in bitcoin, hold their coins for a while even they don't have too much knowledge and strong belief in Bitcoin. These people are like speculators in the market, and their holding is different than actual Bitcoin investors with deep knowledge about Bitcoin, and have very strong belief in Bitcoin future.

Please don't read me wrong. They are like people who invest their money in altcoins, shitcoins and hold them in years for losses.

There are even some people telling Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto (this is already far beyond).

This is just another newest non-sense story about a new Faketoshi.
Epstein did not claim it at all but it is like attempt from community but generally very non sense.
People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis)
Users who impersonate as Satoshi Nakamoto or other cryptocurrency figures.

[abaeze]

To be honest, the way this controversy has spread, it is almost impossible to prove who is right and who is wrong. As far as I know, the Bitcoin protocol was launched in 2009 and Satoshi Nakamoto published the Bitcoin whitepaper. He was even the first to mine the genesis block of Bitcoin. So in my opinion, Epstein has no direct connection with this work. However, since Epstein was a rich and influential person and was also very updated technically, he may have an interest in Bitcoin. However, he has no connection with the discovery of Bitcoin. Until some indirect assistance or interaction is proven through his money and networking, it cannot be said that he created or developed Bitcoin.

[puloweh555]

Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

The discussion about Epstein has become very interesting lately, not just because of those rumors. There are also links being made to some of the world's major figures. There's never been any evidence that he was Satoshi. Many speculate, but without proof, we can only regard him like everyone else who owns and trades Bitcoin. Still, this news is quite intriguing to follow, though some media may have made it seem exaggerated.

Yes, the news circulating right now is very exaggerated. Many people are exaggerating in the media, some claiming Epstein was a developer or Epstein was Satoshi. Of course, this is nothing new with Bitcoin. If you study history from 2010 to 2026 many speculated that Satoshi was believed to be person A, person B, person C and even most recently, Satoshi was believed to be Epstein. This has happened repeatedly every time Bitcoin experiences a correction the goal is to weaken it, but in reality Bitcoin continues to grow rapidly. In fact, I am very confident that in 2028 there will be a FUD narrative speculating about Satoshi.

For me, this cycle of speculation has become a predictable phenomenon. Every new name that emerges distracts from its fundamental principles. For me, this mystery actually has its own purpose whether the market is bearish or bullish depending on the stage. I believe Bitcoin will continue to grow even though many people are trying to destroy it.

[dunfida]

Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

What makes you think a serial rapist and human trafficker like Epstein was part of Bitcoin’s foundational development. Most of the foundational developers like Hal , Satoshi and others owns an account here on the forum not to mention of the high standards these guys hold with regards to decentralisation and limiting coercive power through cryptography.

Epstein live is the opposite, he relied deeply on secrecy in order to exploit others, while cypherphunks preached privacy for protecting people from abuse of power, Epstein logic is keeping things secret in order to exploit and abuse people, so IMO, he can never be part of foundational developers.

Well, you do have indeed a point on which if you do tend to make up some comparison about the ideals then it would be that hard to believe about Epstein to be that included or part of foundational developers of Bitcoin but as we do know that there's always the probabilities or possibilities. It is just that there's no solid evidence that would be leading up with this kind attaching up everything to Epstein on which considering that this man is making up a noise. If he was that part of Bitcoin development then whats next? As long those funds on the main wallets or known wallets of Satoshi hasnt move even a satoshi then we cant be able to tell that Satoshi is still alive. We've been having tons of known Satoshi or self proclaimed ones.

Doesnt matter on whose personality are being attached about Bitcoins existence and just like been said that as long there's no solid evidence then everything would be just that remain speculative and assumptions.
So it would be just that still remain on this kind of guessing.

[HustleZ]

A June 2011 letter found in the “Epstein files” shows Epstein calling Bitcoin a “brilliant idea” while warning about “serious flaws.”
According to CryptoQuant founder Ki Young Ju, Epstein invested in BTC and crypto projects but never believed Bitcoin would go mainstream. Instead of holding, he preferred trading.
In a 2017 exchange, he simply replied “No” when asked whether Bitcoin was worth buying..
According to Odaily, Epstein was aware of Bitcoin by 2011 and engaged with the early crypto community via emails, discussions with tech figures, and connections to ventures tied to the Bitcoin ecosystem  but there’s no verified evidence that he was involved with Bitcoin’s creation or that he held any foundational role.
Is Epstein part of Bitcoin’s foundational development.?

These types of Assumptions have been made since Launch of Bitcoin. It's human nature to unveil things that are kept secret. People can't resist making Assumptions and try to tie Bitcoin with people in hopes of one being correct and this "Mystery" of An Anonymous Founder Ends and they finally come to Peace. We should Know That The Price of BTC going this high is because of Satoshi not Coming out in front of the World as it might Hurt the Concept of Decentralisation, we should not be making baseless Assumptions, Many Members in the WO invested in Bitcoin Long Ago but this doesn't mean they were part of The foundational development or one of them is Satoshi. Or all of them Are? Who knows.

[hero_the_bossman]

^ no one

speculations are the bread and butter of people's psyche.. and it won't change, be it 2026 or 2050.

[Yaunfitda]

To be honest, the way this controversy has spread, it is almost impossible to prove who is right and who is wrong. As far as I know, the Bitcoin protocol was launched in 2009 and Satoshi Nakamoto published the Bitcoin whitepaper. He was even the first to mine the genesis block of Bitcoin. So in my opinion, Epstein has no direct connection with this work. However, since Epstein was a rich and influential person and was also very updated technically, he may have an interest in Bitcoin. However, he has no connection with the discovery of Bitcoin. Until some indirect assistance or interaction is proven through his money and networking, it cannot be said that he created or developed Bitcoin.

What do you mean? Everything shows that he is not Satoshi. Satoshi is a intelligent person and he knows that his creation will have a big impact that's why he choses to disappear and not surface. And there are no documents about Epstein as early as 2009-2010, his name just surface on 2011 and so by that time, Satoshi has been long gone. Maybe those early Bitcoin developers doesn't know what's Epstein is doing behind doors. And any financial help will be big help for Bitcoin developers. So I don't blame those early developers for involving themselves. If they only knew then I will have guess that they won't accept that money. But the FUD has spread already and it might take some time to settle this news and it was also the time. It was really bad because we are in the bear cycle already. So anything negative will have a huge impact on the price to decline which is what we are seeing at the start of the month.

[melinoe]

To be honest, the way this controversy has spread, it is almost impossible to prove who is right and who is wrong. As far as I know, the Bitcoin protocol was launched in 2009 and Satoshi Nakamoto published the Bitcoin whitepaper. He was even the first to mine the genesis block of Bitcoin. So in my opinion, Epstein has no direct connection with this work. However, since Epstein was a rich and influential person and was also very updated technically, he may have an interest in Bitcoin. However, he has no connection with the discovery of Bitcoin. Until some indirect assistance or interaction is proven through his money and networking, it cannot be said that he created or developed Bitcoin.

What do you mean? Everything shows that he is not Satoshi. Satoshi is a intelligent person and he knows that his creation will have a big impact that's why he choses to disappear and not surface. And there are no documents about Epstein as early as 2009-2010, his name just surface on 2011 and so by that time, Satoshi has been long gone. Maybe those early Bitcoin developers doesn't know what's Epstein is doing behind doors. And any financial help will be big help for Bitcoin developers. So I don't blame those early developers for involving themselves. If they only knew then I will have guess that they won't accept that money. But the FUD has spread already and it might take some time to settle this news and it was also the time. It was really bad because we are in the bear cycle already. So anything negative will have a huge impact on the price to decline which is what we are seeing at the start of the month.

the pros and con of this generation and age is that the attention span is much.. shorter, to say the least, so such news, if not reinforced, will be gone fast. and won't be brought again without the people wanting it to be brought back up.