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February 05, 2026, 07:09:21 PM
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 #1

Here we go again.

Same vibes. Same no coiner tweets. Same doom thumbnails with red arrows screaming "BITCOIN IS DEAD (FOR REAL THIS TIME)".

Every cycle the same way:

In 2014, it was Mt. Gox and the end of magic internet money.

In 2018, it was ICOs and the realization that whitepapers don't print cash.

In 2022, it was leverage stacked on leverage and paper billionaires.

Now we're in the fourth episode.

People always say "this time is different."

Spoiler alert: these are the same people who can't hold for more than 4 years.

Time is never different. Only the people panicking are.

If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"

The bear market is not a punishment.

It's the tuition fee.

See you at $40k.

 
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February 05, 2026, 07:19:30 PM
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The cycle surely look different (in terms of having a proper altseason for example but I guess one could argue that actually happened, everything just rotated to memecoins sadly) and what's making people panic this time in my opinion is probably:

- Michael Saylor's holdings and him being forced to sell as bitcoin go down more and more. Whether that's true or not is irrelevant, but it is what's being pushed currently.
- Metals and stocks not correlating with bitcoin's price mouvements.

Don't think the crash has anything to do with Epstein and him being potentially in contact with Satoshi. Didn't see any concrete proof of that.

I also think that we might keep going down until the crypto market structure bill pass into law (assuming it's something that helps the crypto space and not the banks).

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Seemed pretty clear once Saylor started offering preferred shares with massive dividends that he was creating a death spiral that would force MSTR to have to liquidate their Bitcoin down the road. Now we wait for the liquidation and hope that large companies decide it is safe to begin stacking BTC once Saylor’s death spiral creation has been defused.

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February 05, 2026, 07:30:29 PM
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Seemed pretty clear once Saylor started offering preferred shares with massive dividends that he was creating a death spiral that would force MSTR to have to liquidate their Bitcoin down the road. Now we wait for the liquidation and hope that large companies decide it is safe to begin stacking BTC once Saylor’s death spiral creation has been defused.

So you believe that the reason why some institutions or goverments didn't go fully IN, is because Saylor is holding most of Bitcoin's supply? Is there a scenario where he's actually forced to liquidate basically everything?

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February 05, 2026, 07:40:25 PM
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The cycle surely look different (in terms of having a proper altseason for example but I guess one could argue that actually happened, everything just rotated to memecoins sadly) and what's making people panic this time in my opinion is probably:

- Michael Saylor's holdings and him being forced to sell as bitcoin go down more and more. Whether that's true or not is irrelevant, but it is what's being pushed currently.
- Metals and stocks not correlating with bitcoin's price mouvements.

Don't think the crash has anything to do with Epstein and him being potentially in contact with Satoshi. Didn't see any concrete proof of that.

I also think that we might keep going down until the crypto market structure bill pass into law (assuming it's something that helps the crypto space and not the banks).


Silver tanked ~ 30% in the last week.
Gold (which is always more stable then silver) is down ~ 10% in the last week.

Makes you wonder how many people are now selling their BTC to cover the loss they now have to cover these.

Things like this are happening too:
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/05/layoff-and-hiring-announcements-hit-their-worst-january-levels-since-2009-challenger-says.html
So how many people sold even though they did not have to just to be sure they have "cash in hand"

But yes, I think it's just another cycle.

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February 05, 2026, 07:46:32 PM
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The Season will never be the same with the past season or with the future season, if you watch this season very well you will know that many organizations really invest a lot of funds in bitcoin because there was a rumor that the price of bitcoin will touch above $300k this year and the price didn't increase to that level, which is what is making some investors not to take another opportunity to buy more bitcoin and continue holding because the price will definitely reach $300k in the future to allow many investors to achieve their dreams from bitcoin investment, even though the price will still decrease,I don't think it will touch $50k because that is the low price many people are waiting to happen before they can increase their bitcoin.

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February 05, 2026, 07:47:22 PM
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Here we go again.

Same vibes. Same no coiner tweets. Same doom thumbnails with red arrows screaming "BITCOIN IS DEAD (FOR REAL THIS TIME)".

Every cycle the same way:

In 2014, it was Mt. Gox and the end of magic internet money.

In 2018, it was ICOs and the realization that whitepapers don't print cash.

In 2022, it was leverage stacked on leverage and paper billionaires.

Now we're in the fourth episode.

People always say "this time is different."

Spoiler alert: these are the same people who can't hold for more than 4 years.

Time is never different. Only the people panicking are.

If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"

The bear market is not a punishment.

It's the tuition fee.

See you at $40k.
Yea see you at $40k and when we reach there many people who came for bitcoins wealth would have left. They won’t ask why bitcoin is pumping when it was going up above $120k but now that we are heading to $40k they ask questions like bitcoin has scammed them.

 
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February 05, 2026, 07:50:15 PM
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Buying more bitcoin and holding Bitcoin is the most important thing to do now. There will be so many stories concerning the price of Bitcoin. People will say gone are the days when Bitcoin used to be profitable, but now it has lost that potential it once had.

People will have so many things to say about bitcoin that can convince some investors not to be willing to invest in Bitcoin, but those who understand what they are doing will never fall for all this talk about Bitcoin. It will even be a good opportunity for them to buy bitcoin and to continue holding Bitcoin.

 
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February 05, 2026, 07:51:49 PM
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The same four years cycle and the same critics theory here and there blah blah blah

This days I’m not too fond of checking the price chart and I didn’t even realized we’re really in the bear season..I just started seeing lots of post on my feeds and on this forum..the price have dropped almost 10% only today! But nevertheless we all are supposed to expect this kinda seasons and we should definitely use this opportunity to stack more bitcoins...


BTD!

But someone might decide to wait for the price to get lower, also me I’d add more when it reaches 45k-ish..

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February 05, 2026, 08:02:49 PM
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Seemed pretty clear once Saylor started offering preferred shares with massive dividends that he was creating a death spiral that would force MSTR to have to liquidate their Bitcoin down the road. Now we wait for the liquidation and hope that large companies decide it is safe to begin stacking BTC once Saylor’s death spiral creation has been defused.

So you believe that the reason why some institutions or goverments didn't go fully IN, is because Saylor is holding most of Bitcoin's supply? Is there a scenario where he's actually forced to liquidate basically everything?

Not governments, they use other people’s money so they don’t care. Corporations though, definitely. I have no doubt that Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Tesla, would all be accepting BTC today if Strategy didn’t exist. I think the big boys are going to try and force as much of a liquidation in MSTR holdings as they can before jumping in.

The scenario Strategy gets fully liquidated would have to include shareholder lawsuits. Strategy shareholders are the ones who got duped and had their investment used to create a death spiral in their own holdings. They’re the ones who will be diluted until the rubber meets the road and Strategy can raise funds at a premium to pump anew.

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See you at $40k.

I don't know if the figure will stay this high because with what am seeing I think maybe $30k 🙂🙂 and if the price gets to the point then the panic would certainly be off the roof for those persons that don't understand that this is all a normal thing with the Bitcoin market. For many investor who are willing to hold this is even a beautiful opportunity for them to stack up and buy more Bitcoin especially now that the value is down so that they will get good numbers.











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February 05, 2026, 08:39:50 PM
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This post sums up the psychology of every cycle perfectly. While the surface narrative always changes (Mt. Gox, ICOs, leverage, ETFs), the underlying behavior never does.
People don’t panic because something new happened, they panic because volatility exposes weak time horizons. The ones who survive aren’t the smartest or the fastest. They’re the ones who understand that Bitcoin tests conviction through repetition, not surprises. Bear markets aren’t punishment. They’re filtration.

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February 05, 2026, 08:53:08 PM
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See you at $40k.

I don't know if the figure will stay this high because with what am seeing I think maybe $30k 🙂🙂 and if the price gets to the point then the panic would certainly be off the roof for those persons that don't understand that this is all a normal thing with the Bitcoin market. For many investor who are willing to hold this is even a beautiful opportunity for them to stack up and buy more Bitcoin especially now that the value is down so that they will get good numbers.
This is the time to know who the true investors are. Bitcoiners always talk about buying dip, this is the time for them to practice what they preach. But unfortunately, many will let this opportunity go. The problem isn't because they do not have the capital, but because they do not have the confidence to invest in an asset whose value is declining. What if that's the end? Yea,  that's a panicked mindset. Dips are very normal, but it is hard to accept that a massive decline like this and even lesser is normal.

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February 05, 2026, 09:04:08 PM
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Here we go again.Same vibes. Same no coiner tweets. Same doom thumbnails with red arrows screaming "BITCOIN IS DEAD (FOR REAL THIS TIME)".Every cycle the same way:In 2014, it was Mt. Gox and the end of magic internet money.In 2018, it was ICOs and the realization that whitepapers don't print cash.In 2022, it was leverage stacked on leverage and paper billionaires.Now we're in the fourth episode. People always say "this time is different."Spoiler alert: these are the same people who can't hold for more than 4 years.Time is never different. Only the people panicking are.If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"The bear market is not a punishment. It's the tuition fee. See you at $40k.

@BlackHatCoiner you get it man

every cycle a new boogeyman appears
this time it's saylor's "death spiral" or some other nonsense
always some reason for the noobs to freak out and sell their stack to stronger hands

people been saying this time is different since forever
the only thing different is the specific flavor of fud
it's never different for those who actually understand what they hold

tuition fee indeed see you after the next halving when all these clowns are screaming moon again
rekt for the weak hands always
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February 05, 2026, 09:24:56 PM
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Here we go again.

Same vibes. Same no coiner tweets. Same doom thumbnails with red arrows screaming "BITCOIN IS DEAD (FOR REAL THIS TIME)".

Every cycle the same way:

In 2014, it was Mt. Gox and the end of magic internet money.

In 2018, it was ICOs and the realization that whitepapers don't print cash.

In 2022, it was leverage stacked on leverage and paper billionaires.

Now we're in the fourth episode.

People always say "this time is different."

Spoiler alert: these are the same people who can't hold for more than 4 years.

Time is never different. Only the people panicking are.

If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"

The bear market is not a punishment.

It's the tuition fee.

See you at $40k.

Love this!

Every point is so relevant

'Here we go again' sounds ominous but its just normal for the long termers and
spells opportunity - aka 'the tuition fee'

'the bear market is not punishment' only to the weak hands but not to the ones
with the diamond hands,

'see you at $40k' - yup or anywhere around that to refill, recharge, refresh, reinvigorate,
reinvest and reignite.


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February 05, 2026, 09:46:00 PM
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Seemed pretty clear once Saylor started offering preferred shares with massive dividends that he was creating a death spiral that would force MSTR to have to liquidate their Bitcoin down the road. Now we wait for the liquidation and hope that large companies decide it is safe to begin stacking BTC once Saylor’s death spiral creation has been defused.
Liquidation? They aren't tied to any debt that would automatically liquidate them during a dip
Cash reserve in billions that can cover preferred dividends and convertibles interest
Even the convertibles are starting from 2027 and 2028 not anytime this year.
I understand that their strategy looked good in a bull market but it's crap in winters like this
Doesn't mean it would automatically liquidate them.

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February 05, 2026, 09:51:01 PM
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So you believe that the reason why some institutions or goverments didn't go fully IN, is because Saylor is holding most of Bitcoin's supply? Is there a scenario where he's actually forced to liquidate basically everything?

I don't agree that the reason they did not go all IN was that Saylor was holding so much Bitcoin supply. They could have gotten any amount they wanted and quietly kept accumulating more as time went on. They simply do not fully buy into the idea yet. So much uncertainty for them.

And why should Saylor liquidate everything now? He has held on for so long, he had a chance to liquidate at higher prices but didn't. So why take such a loss now? I believe he knows that what this means is that he is going to have to hold for an even longer time.


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February 05, 2026, 11:40:24 PM
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BTC is like a bad guy, everybody talks about him when things come bad, but most people never talks about him when he do well. Anyway, real holders will never care about it, they will leverage this situation.

Is there big red candles?, then thats the opportunity to acumulate more if you can...dont doubt about it.


OP is in truth:

Here we go again.

Same vibes.

But all of us know this will happen always! even if BTC reach 200k and come back to 125k...but the truth is that BTC is always doing well because is here to stay and thats a "win".


See you at $40k.

Better, see you at 1 million...soon? Wink

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February 06, 2026, 02:17:58 AM
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Here we go again.

Now we're in the fourth episode.

People always say "this time is different."
This time is not different, and people even try to call for a super cycle to make "this time is different" is a little bit different than past false callings.

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Spoiler alert: these are the same people who can't hold for more than 4 years.

Time is never different. Only the people panicking are.

If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"
The psychological pitfalls of a market cycle.
This cycle repeats many times.

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The bear market is not a punishment.

It's the tuition fee.
The bear market gives people very valuable lesson and experience which are painful with some people while it is meaningful for the others. In a same market, there are intelligent investors and non-intelligent investors, there are buyers and sellers, so if it is risk and loss of some people, that means in a same market, it is great profit and opportunity for the others.

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February 06, 2026, 08:14:58 AM
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If you're here long enough, you stop asking "why is this happening?" and you start asking "who's still here when it happens?"
Some people keep asking why, even though they've been registered on this forum since 2013 (the 1st BTC cycle)! Cheesy

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