If Trading Was About Sessions, Everyone Would Be Profitable

[SamReomo]

OP you should not do 2 posts consecutively as that's against the rules of the forum. Instead of making two posts you cam quote 2 replies in a single post. And, when it comes to trading sessions, I don't believe in such thing, for me market is always active and is fully of opportunities. So if someone is good at trading then for him/her those trading sessions are more as myth.

[Stepstowealth]

One thing I’ve noticed after years of watching trading content online is how disconnected it is from actual trading.

There are many contents on trading online that will not be helpful to you, as an interested newbie in trading, you have to be careful what you watch because some of these teachers are more content creators than team coordinator and leader.

My own understanding of trading sessions is that it is a time frame we experience real movements in the market and traders are expected to have made up their minds before trading sessions.

[sheenshane]

One thing I’ve noticed after years of watching trading content online is how disconnected it is from actual trading.

There are many contents on trading online that will not be helpful to you, as an interested newbie in trading, you have to be careful what you watch because some of these teachers are more content creators than team coordinator and leader.

That is, if you focus on only one content creator.
I tend to agree that they are more likely to make a content video, but there is some video content that I've learned while studying trading before.  Not only one content creator, but I find watching 3 to 5 is much better, so you can compare which of them has the most accurate results.

Trading influencers are sometimes helpful to us, just choose which ideas are most favorable in the market, or combine them all with your own.

DYOR is the most important in trading, and how to apply your profitable technique.
In trading, not all the time do you talk about profit.

[michellee]

Not really because if people wants to profits from trading, they must have many things. They must analyze to find the time to enter the market and that is not only about sessions. If they can't finds the right time to trade, they will difficult to profit instead losing money.

The market becoming unpredicted now so we don't know what exactly happens later because the price can get down like what we see now or it will increase.

You don't have to restricts yourself not trading in certain hours. Crypto trading will always moves without stops. Let those influencer says many things but you find your own time to trade.

[Mpamaegbu]

Good trades are rare. Some days there are none. Some days there’s one move that matters, and it doesn’t care which session you prefer.

Yes, there are days where there will be no trades. What sensible traders do at a time like that is not to force trades. Staying away from trading is also trading, as they say. No one has to trade everyday to earn the appellation of a trader.

About session, yes it does work. This is because some sessions have active and volatility in them more than others. I like the New York and London sessions. Asia isn't my thing. It's too slow and boring. However, whatever session one chooses must align and agree with whatever trading strategy and entry plan one uses before taking trades. No one should trade blindly because it's a session.

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

Yes, that's right. This is why I don't believe those who advertize they're profitable online. Most of them are just signal marketers who only make their money from trading signals that don't even work, and not from actual trading.

[rbynxx]

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

I also think a lot of those so-called trading rules are just made by these online gurus to sound smart or easy to follow, especially for those easy target beginners. In real life it’s messy, unpredictable, and sometimes or most of the times you won't get a setup for days.For me, the most overrated trade is hitting your daily trading goal. Yeah sure, it sounds nice, but forcing a trade just coz you want to make your $1000 or whatever, that’s how people easily get their trading accounts get liquidated.

[macrolens]

OP you should not do 2 posts consecutively as that's against the rules of the forum. Instead of making two posts you cam quote 2 replies in a single post. And, when it comes to trading sessions, I don't believe in such thing, for me market is always active and is fully of opportunities. So if someone is good at trading then for him/her those trading sessions are more as myth.

Thanks for pointing that out, appreciate the heads-up about the forum rules.
And yes, I agree with you on the sessions part as well.
Markets don’t switch on and off based on the clock; opportunity depends on understanding price, not time blocks.

Most of them are just signal marketers who only make their money from trading signals that don't even work, and not from actual trading.

I agree with most of what you said.
I do want to ask you about the part where you mentioned signal sellers though.

In your opinion, if someone genuinely has a profitable strategy (a real edge), but their personal capital is too small or the returns from trading their own account aren’t sufficient, do you think it’s wrong for them to offer signals or related services?

And if that path is taken, how do you personally distinguish between someone monetizing a real edge and the outright scammers who only sell hype?

Genuinely curious to hear your take on that.

[blockman]

Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

About signals and the fundamentals that are just based on other people and not with the reality. I think the real traders will gather information that are real and they're not going to be easily affected by those. The plans of trading is there but, they won't be easily move by bad news. Another marketing is about the candles that they'd probably just got from a real good trader and sending it out to their fans, I'm talking about the trader influencers that are not real traders and they copy everything in their favor to make their fans believe that they're good ones.

[Mpamaegbu]

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In your opinion, if someone genuinely has a profitable strategy (a real edge), but their personal capital is too small or the returns from trading their own account aren’t sufficient, do you think it’s wrong for them to offer signals or related services?

It doesn't take much time to grow small capital if one has the acquired set skills for trading. Profit compounding is the way to go in such situation. Make sure you don't take out any profit for a certain period of time. Selling signals is distraction to trading on its own. I've seen someone who grew $5 to an enviable amount after several weeks. Dude used that to prove to people that capital shouldn't be a hindrance to anyone going into trading if they knew what to do.

Again, one can trade with that small capital. Grow it to like $100 and then go the Prop firm way. A lot of people have gone through that route and it worked for them. Anyone who knows their onions hardly rush to the public to market their "joker". You keep the golden geese, and not sell it.

And if that path is taken, how do you personally distinguish between someone monetizing a real edge and the outright scammers who only sell hype?

Genuinely curious to hear your take on that.

I once asked someone who tried to sell me that hoax to drop his "Investor Password". Dude did and I monitored his trades. I discovered he was allowing his trades float for days with draw downs when he ran into losses but was quick to close them when he saw little profit. I knew that wouldn't be sustainable. My thoughts came to be as he blew that account after a few more days.

One thing we've to know is that most of those who brandish their supposed profit online do so on demo account. They don't trade live. That's how to sniff out the signal marketers and scammers.

[Zanab247]

There are some traders that pay attention to signal and once the signal hit the market they can prepare themselves at the moment to start trading, because they know that profit will surely come out from the trading. Some time you don't need to force people to what is working for you in trading, and there are some trader who don't like to be using signal to get what they want from crypto trading, which it will be hard for such traders to value signal in the market.

It will be hard for everybody in the market to profits from their trading, because there are some that will still be waiting for the price to hit higher before they can trade in the market while there are some traders that will start trading at the moment to achieve their target from trading.

[AVE5]

There are so many trading strategies spread on social media, some say it's better to be like this, or it's better to choose trading time at that hour, etc.

There is nothing wrong with what they say because on social media it is free to express opinions or experiences. However, no one can guarantee whether this strategy is suitable for everyone, maybe there are those who are suitable and there are also those who are not, because every trader has a different strategy.

What is important is how you as a trader are able to choose a strategy that suits you. If you feel that the rules are simply unreasonable, you can ignore them.

I guess this is not more than why it's said that the volatile market drives and manipulates traders on their decision which leaves no strategy a reliability to catch the price at the right time.
You'd want to sell at a specific timing with a sell limit order but its almost like waiting for an entire lifetime because your duration trading order was a short timing.
You can be as lucky as catching the green light too when you've a strong strategy and you arrives at the right time.
Moreover there's there's no right time because the volatility is unpredictable at it swings.

[macrolens]

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

For me, the most overrated trade is hitting your daily trading goal. Yeah sure, it sounds nice, but forcing a trade just coz you want to make your $1000 or whatever, that’s how people easily get their trading accounts get liquidated.

Agreed. Most of those “rules” look clean on paper but break down in real market conditions. Trading is messy and inconsistent.

Another overhyped one is the idea that every trade must have a 1:3 risk/reward. Plenty of profitable strategies work with lower R:R and higher win rates. Forcing a fixed number often does more harm than good

It doesn't take much time to grow small capital if one has the acquired set skills for trading. Profit compounding is the way to go in such situation. Make sure you don't take out any profit for a certain period of time. Selling signals is distraction to trading on its own. I've seen someone who grew $5 to an enviable amount after several weeks. Dude used that to prove to people that capital shouldn't be a hindrance to anyone going into trading if they knew what to do.

Again, one can trade with that small capital. Grow it to like $100 and then go the Prop firm way. A lot of people have gone through that route and it worked for them. Anyone who knows their onions hardly rush to the public to market their "joker". You keep the golden geese, and not sell it.

I think the example you gave is more of an exception than a realistic baseline.

A strategy with proper risk control and reasonable drawdown usually doesn’t produce explosive returns. Even if we assume a solid 8–10% monthly return, the percentage stays the same whether the capital is $5 or $10,000 only the absolute profit changes.

With small capital, that profit simply isn’t enough to cover real-life expenses. Compounding sounds great in theory, but in practice people eventually need to withdraw, which slows growth significantly. That’s the part most “small capital to life-changing money” stories ignore.

This is often where alternative monetization comes in not necessarily because the edge is fake, but because the capital constraint is real. And monetizing doesn’t have to mean selling the strategy itself. Signals, copy trading, or tools are more about selling execution access, not the edge.

I agree skepticism is necessary, especially with scammers around. I just don’t think extreme compounding examples prove that capital is irrelevant. Capital matters not to find an edge, but to turn it into sustainable income.

What is important is how you as a trader are able to choose a strategy that suits you. If you feel that the rules are simply unreasonable, you can ignore them.

You can be as lucky as catching the green light too when you've a strong strategy and you arrives at the right time.
Moreover there's there's no right time because the volatility is unpredictable at it swings.

The reality of the market is that there is an entire industry built around selling methods that are specifically designed to fail against market maker algorithms. To some extent, this is not accidental, it is part of the market structure and the incentives behind it.

At the same time, there are strategies that consistently work. You just don’t hear about them publicly, precisely because they are valuable. That’s the uncomfortable truth: discovering a robust method is genuinely difficult, time-consuming, and mentally exhausting.

I also struggle with the common claim that “a strategy has to match your personality.” From a systematic perspective, a strategy either has positive expectancy over time or it doesn’t. If it fails to perform, it’s simply wrong. If it is structurally sound, then anyone, regardless of personality, can execute it and obtain similar results, assuming proper risk management and discipline.

Personality may affect execution errors, but it does not turn a non-edge into an edge, or vice versa.

[pawanjain]

One thing I’ve noticed after years of watching trading content online is how disconnected it is from actual trading.

Social media is full of clean narratives:
“Trade only New York session”
“Focus on London–NY overlap”
“Wait for the perfect setup every day”

It sounds professional, but it ignores a basic reality:
the market doesn’t hand out high-quality opportunities on a schedule.

Good trades are rare. Some days there are none. Some days there’s one move that matters, and it doesn’t care which session you prefer.

Restricting yourself to specific hours and expecting consistent account growth is more about creating content than trading reality.

Most of these rules exist because they’re easy to explain, easy to sell, and comforting to beginners. Real trading is messier, less repeatable, and far less cinematic.

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

It's obvious that making money in trading doesn't stick to a certain set of rules or setups.
It's just he opportunities that can arise at any moment and the ones who identify them earlier are the ones who make good money.
We have to be patient and smart to identify those opportunities and that's how we get the experience in trading.

[ZAINmalik75]

Restricting yourself to specific hours and expecting consistent account growth is more about creating content than trading reality.

Most of these rules exist because they’re easy to explain, easy to sell, and comforting to beginners. Real trading is messier, less repeatable, and far less cinematic.

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

I agree with you, social media narrative is straightforward but it is not in reality. Market does not wait for anyone, someone with a schedule of buying bitcoin when it hits $50k or someone who waits for 5 months etc. can't make anything.

Restricting ourselves to these rules and analysis is not the best thing to do when we are trading in a market that runs for 24 hours for 365 days. It never stops, although the working hour theory works in stock market but with time they are tokenizing bonds and everything on blockchain for trading them 24*7*365.

Real trading is not that easy but it is also not that messy.

[LogitechMouse]

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Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

I've seen these narratives as well as I watched YouTube videos about trading all the time especially with the "Trade only New York Session", and while the New York Session has the highest trading volume out of all 3 sessions, that doesn't mean that we can only make money thru that session alone. I mean there are still money even though we are in the Asia and London session. Maybe for some traders, focusing on one trading session works for them, but we know that what works for them MIGHT not work for you too.

"Focus on the higher timeframe." I don't know if this works, but this is the one that I'm focusing on right now, and compared to what I'm doing back then which is more of scalping and focusing on the lower timeframe, this works for me, as it decreases my number of positions, but increases my win rate as well. I also saw that institutions focuses on higher timeframe like the 1D, 4H and 1H timeframe. I don't know if this is true, but if there's somebody there that can explain it then please do it. Also, I saw that focusing on 1:1 trade instead of the traditional 1:2 or 1:3 RRR works. There are also some traders who have negative RRR, but it works for them.

Well, these are their rules, and that's what they're using to make money. Some might look it as something that's marketable to increase their views, but that might be the thing that works for them, and they're just simply sharing it online.

[Gozie51]

Curious how others here see this.
Which popular trading “rules” do you think are more marketing than reality?

Those sessions lessons are actually a guide to how to catch your fish if you have the strategy, patience and emotional balance for it. There are some strategy that will work on a particular session and won't in another session and I think that is the idea that social media is pushing. The problem is to take time to understand and master them with patient. Trading involves alot of patience and waiting because the real opportunity for profit rarely appears for every session. Most social media people lose money too because they misinterpret the market from impatient. A trader that is impatient will continue getting it wrong across all sessions despite having the best strategy. If you enter the market too early, the volatility may knock you out on your SL. So no matter what social media signals says, you can build your strategy with patience.

[Oluwa-btc]

You're not wrong,it all of a sudden appears like a sort of content creation edition or method.If it were about visibility too,everybody would have something to hold unto.Trading isn't magical, meanwhile some of the preacher's of those strategies have an experience that actually worked for them but getting to convince or cajole the masses and followers to replicate the process is where the challenge lies.Trading has a system it responds to,and if you're not doing that,it'll leave you second guessing your efforts and actions.

[EL MOHA]

"Focus on the higher timeframe." I don't know if this works, but this is the one that I'm focusing on right now, and compared to what I'm doing back then which is more of scalping and focusing on the lower timeframe, this works for me, as it decreases my number of positions, but increases my win rate as well. I also saw that institutions focuses on higher timeframe like the 1D, 4H and 1H timeframe. I don't know if this is true, but if there's somebody there that can explain it then please do it. Also, I saw that focusing on 1:1 trade instead of the traditional 1:2 or 1:3 RRR works. There are also some traders who have negative RRR, but it works for them.

Yes I can also agree about the focus of higher time frame been the best method instead of lower time frames but that depends heavily if you’re trading assets like bitcoin and not all those pump and dump coins like meme coins. This is logically true because with higher time frame most of the time bitcoin volatility rate is highly reduced that is why when someone holds bitcoin for longer time like 10 years they tend to avoid shake outs than someone who holds for a year this is analogous to the trading with higher time frame than with lower time.

Scalping is always a battle of how most accurate you’re analysis must be but with swing (higher time frame) the market might be volatile for a short period of time but Would definitely not take you out that easily except it’s a very tight stop loss and after Fake shake outs it goes in your direction but might have taken out those scalpers even though their analysis might be in same direction as yours.

As for the R:R I would never agree that 1:1 is actually better than 1:2 or 1:3 which is my most preferred R:R simply because economical you’re risking just what you might lose and in economic constraints it’s not logical to me

[shinratensei_]

There are many marketing gimmicks with trading but I won't call sessions useless.
When we talk about session we talk about active hours in certain region and it relates heavily with their liquidity, news, and volatility.

People don't trade 24 hour and there is always busy hour. This busy hour is the time when there is big volatility either caused by big holders move or certain news.
I still trade on session sometime.