tcatm2 (OP)
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February 06, 2026, 04:13:13 PM |
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Hey,
tcatm here. I am verifying my identity by signing this post with my old Bitcoincharts donation address: 1Nqr3MqVyUp6k3o3QPePAdn4Yg4tzgB9kw
This message was written at block height 935269, hash 0000000000000000000054e89aaa3a93f631a96583376bb22c8702e2c3bfe6b5
I have discovered a trivial, non-destructive method to extract private keys from BitBills using common household equipment. I have verified this works. I will release the full technical methodology next week.
Please sweep your funds and store them securely. Do not buy BitBills from someone you do not trust. The physical tamper-evidence is no longer a guarantee that the key has not been accessed.
To my knowledge, there are around 1,300 BTC unredeemed in BitBills as of today.
Best, tcatm
Signature: HJ1XxuhBnXcDVYAyK+y9bbE11QoRquFr3I2VhmdCWjaLXcuu7hrIQ76ggwcs7LobMPhs4L32BIP7WcJaMAhYDYU=
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krogothmanhattan
Cypher Hodl LLC
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
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February 06, 2026, 06:20:42 PM |
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Hey,
tcatm here. I am verifying my identity by signing this post with my old Bitcoincharts donation address: 1Nqr3MqVyUp6k3o3QPePAdn4Yg4tzgB9kw
This message was written at block height 935269, hash 0000000000000000000054e89aaa3a93f631a96583376bb22c8702e2c3bfe6b5
I have discovered a trivial, non-destructive method to extract private keys from BitBills using common household equipment. I have verified this works. I will release the full technical methodology next week.
Please sweep your funds and store them securely. Do not buy BitBills from someone you do not trust. The physical tamper-evidence is no longer a guarantee that the key has not been accessed.
To my knowledge, there are around 1,300 BTC unredeemed in BitBills as of today.
Best, tcatm
Signature: HJ1XxuhBnXcDVYAyK+y9bbE11QoRquFr3I2VhmdCWjaLXcuu7hrIQ76ggwcs7LobMPhs4L32BIP7WcJaMAhYDYU=
So what you are saying is you can read the private keys without removing the holograms or removing the hologram and placing back without anyone noticing? Or ARE ALL PRIVATE KEYS compromised somehow by you using common household equipment? Is that why ALL BITBILLS need to be swept??
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tcatm2 (OP)
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February 06, 2026, 08:19:14 PM |
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As far as I can tell, the cryptography is not affected. However, I found a way to read the private key of BitBills without opening them or leaving a trace.
If you have held the card continuously in a safe since you bought it, your funds are fine (as far as I can tell). However, because the hologram no longer proves the key hasn't been seen, you cannot trust any BitBill on the secondary market. That is why I recommend sweeping.
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krogoth
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February 06, 2026, 08:53:56 PM |
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As far as I can tell, the cryptography is not affected. However, I found a way to read the private key of BitBills without opening them or leaving a trace.
If you have held the card continuously in a safe since you bought it, your funds are fine (as far as I can tell). However, because the hologram no longer proves the key hasn't been seen, you cannot trust any BitBill on the secondary market. That is why I recommend sweeping.
Thanks....I figured that's what you meant....so my bills are fine then. Thanks for letting us know. They were able to do to Casascius something similar https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2013/08/13/defcon-hackers-crack-physical-bitcoin-casascius-coins So this ain't the first time a physical collectable can be compromised. As long as the maker ain't fucken around and a person bought from maker or a trusted person.... hopefully should be fine Have had mine for many years and plan to NEVER SWEEP.
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alandelon
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February 06, 2026, 09:00:04 PM |
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Hey,
tcatm here. I am verifying my identity by signing this post with my old Bitcoincharts donation address: 1Nqr3MqVyUp6k3o3QPePAdn4Yg4tzgB9kw
This message was written at block height 935269, hash 0000000000000000000054e89aaa3a93f631a96583376bb22c8702e2c3bfe6b5
I have discovered a trivial, non-destructive method to extract private keys from BitBills using common household equipment. I have verified this works. I will release the full technical methodology next week.
Please sweep your funds and store them securely. Do not buy BitBills from someone you do not trust. The physical tamper-evidence is no longer a guarantee that the key has not been accessed.
To my knowledge, there are around 1,300 BTC unredeemed in BitBills as of today.
Best, tcatm
Signature: HJ1XxuhBnXcDVYAyK+y9bbE11QoRquFr3I2VhmdCWjaLXcuu7hrIQ76ggwcs7LobMPhs4L32BIP7WcJaMAhYDYU=
It really intrigues me how you did it. Thanks for the information. It’s a good thing for a coin to go through this kind of testing, since the whole idea behind all of this is to make sure no one gets scammed and that collecting remains fully trustworthy, both on a personal level and physically, without any manipulation.
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MoparMiningLLC
aka Stryfe
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February 06, 2026, 10:55:19 PM |
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alandelon
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February 06, 2026, 11:07:00 PM |
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I think it’s fine, and you know why? Because that person may have bought it second-hand — you never really know. But if they obtained it firsthand, I think redeeming it might be an exaggeration. Also, in the future, it may no longer be valuable to sell it with the BTC still on the card, since if it can be manipulated that easily, it will likely be harder to sell.
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tcatm2 (OP)
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February 06, 2026, 11:13:53 PM Last edit: March 13, 2026, 11:08:31 AM by Mitchell |
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That was me preparing a BitBill so I can safely expose the private key in a demonstration next week. Signature using that sending address: G8Mb/Z9G5nsfvLNAECP+9V0z+xI8awgLXop3OMF1+8L+PwKF42IwAnKLUQaHJR8RtF9C2HwEhNvhcRhnXtVHn74= https://talkimg.com/images/2026/02/06/UEeCBv.pngLet's just say for now, that the ink used for the security pattern (now violet) had a significantly shorter chemical shelf-life than the ink used for the private key itself, and has likely degraded years ago. [mod note: merged consecutive posts]
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tcatm2 (OP)
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March 12, 2026, 11:09:27 AM |
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https://talkimg.com/images/2026/03/12/Uk3NgH.jpeg1. Get a bright LED light. 2. Get any digital camera. 3. Take a photo. 4. Scan QR code from photo. 5. Sweep coins (possibly now or years after selling intact bitbill). The back side of all BitBills clearly state "beta". It was never intended to be a bearer asset more than 15 years later. I believe the private key still holds some forked chains with coins. Feel free to sweep them.
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minerjones
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March 12, 2026, 01:05:21 PM |
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This seems like the Austrian Crypto Stamps V2.0 A similar method can be used to read the key without breaching the card envelope/holder
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MoparMiningLLC
aka Stryfe
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March 12, 2026, 01:44:12 PM |
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FYI - I used an old ballet card to test - but yes I was indeed able to scan that QR and imported a few bucks of forks. and as minerjones pointed out, this was the same issue with the cryptostamps
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Rymaster
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March 12, 2026, 07:28:50 PM |
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Interesting. I attempted to scan the QR but couldn’t get it to register on my phone. Hopefully this issue hasn’t been abused, it does always make you worry buying second hand though.
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krogothmanhattan
Cypher Hodl LLC
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
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March 12, 2026, 07:49:21 PM |
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Anytime you create a see thru item, it would be best to place a small piece of aluminum foil and also print two qr codes and place on top of each other in a way that they are opposite to the other to obfuscate it.
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MoparMiningLLC
aka Stryfe
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March 13, 2026, 01:07:42 AM |
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Anytime you create a see thru item, it would be best to place a small piece of aluminum foil and also print two qr codes and place on top of each other in a way that they are opposite to the other to obfuscate it.
yes this is a great way to help block it.
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krogoth
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March 13, 2026, 03:39:12 AM Last edit: March 13, 2026, 03:59:47 AM by krogoth Merited by MoparMiningLLC (5) |
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Anytime you create a see thru item, it would be best to place a small piece of aluminum foil and also print two qr codes and place on top of each other in a way that they are opposite to the other to obfuscate it.
yes this is a great way to help block it. I did exactly this for my cypher hodl paper items
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bitbollo
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March 13, 2026, 04:35:36 AM |
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... I did exactly this for my cypher hodl paper items
Share one of mine... 
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