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February 14, 2026, 07:41:28 PM
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Just because bitcoin has reached its heights and become very popular to the people does not mean that Satoshi should bear all the consequences. The government has nothing to file against Satoshi because bitcoin itself is legal, so it would be an illegal act if they will put him to their custody and force Satoshi to make illegal transactions.

This only proves that the government feels the threat of having bitcoin. Why? Bitcoin promotes transparency and high security, but the government cannot even perform it to the fiat transactions that are happening under the table.

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Today at 09:10:50 AM
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The funny part is, we are talking about something Dan Pena said Cheesy. I mean that dude made a fame by being a clown and a troll, that's his entire persona, that's what he does, he comes out and says outrageous things and then that gets him attention. He was basically a twitter troll in real life before twitter was even a thing, and he became famous for it.

Nobody ever cares about his financial thoughts, dude has none that would be considered good, hell he was even fired from his job for running it terribly and was going bankrupt and the company became huge after he was fired as a CEO. He not only says bitcoin would go to zero if we knew, he actually says "I know who satoshi is" as well, think about what kind of buffoon we are talking about here Cheesy.

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Today at 09:27:26 AM
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 Cheesy You are very funny. What did satoshi did for the US government to arrest him and then take away all his bitcoin, let me remind you that satoshi creating bitcoin has not committed any crime and for that reason the US government cannot arrest him, even if they want to do it they will fear that protest will break out from that arrest. Bitcoin is now used by millions of people in the world and you can’t just arrest the creator of something like that. One of the benefits we got from Satoshi disappearance is that it gave bitcoin more value, and he should continue keeping himself anonymous. The US are also investing in bitcoin, don’t forget that. The only thing that will happen when Satoshi comes out or is found is that Bitcoin will grow more popular.











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Today at 09:43:03 AM
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Dan Pena was right when he said and I quote "if we know who created bitcoin it would go to zero".
If the US government was able to know and fine Satoshi Nakamoto they would have made sure that Bitcoin go to Zero, and doing it would have been very easy for them, because when they have satoshi Nakamoto in their custody, they will first of all make him send all his bitcoin to them, which is 1 million bitcoin, and when that happens, they will sell all the bitcoin and when they do that bitcoin will automatically go to Zero. And again Decentralization myth could weaken. The only reason Bitcoin is still existing and growing bigger and better is because the creator of bitcoin decided to make him self anonymous till date.


The circulating supply of Bitcoin is around 20M currently, so 1M bitcoins will only be around 5% of the circulating supply; I don't understand how liquidating only 5% of the total supply will make the price go to zero. It will surely affect the price if they know how they can use the supply to drag the price down, but it's not going to make it go to zero. So, this theory sounds like something made up and has no actual logic in it. Besides, they are never going to find Satoshi anymore, if they were to find him, they must have done so by now because Bitcoin has already been around for more than 17 years.

For some reason, I feel like Bitcoin is never going to zero no matter what happens. Even if they manage to find Satoshi, take his bitcoins and sell them, or even take his life, this will only make bitcoins stance stronger in the world, people will have sympathy with him and they will use bitcoin even more, they will not be able to finish bitcoin because it's not possible. Bitcoin is online and available, and it will always be available, no one can close the blockchain, and they can't stop all the miners, obviously.

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Today at 10:28:16 AM
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Dan Pena was right when he said and I quote "if we know who created bitcoin it would go to zero".
If the US government was able to know and fine Satoshi Nakamoto they would have made sure that Bitcoin go to Zero, and doing it would have been very easy for them, because when they have satoshi Nakamoto in their custody, they will first of all make him send all his bitcoin to them, which is 1 million bitcoin, and when that happens, they will sell all the bitcoin and when they do that bitcoin will automatically go to Zero. And again Decentralization myth could weaken. The only reason Bitcoin is still existing and growing bigger and better is because the creator of bitcoin decided to make him self anonymous till date.


This all might seem logical in your brain but you are on your own, OK there may be others
in a minority who might agree with you but its nonsense!

Bitcoin is bigger than any single person or institute or group.

If the US government found Satoshi, arrested """""""him"""""" and made """""him""""" move """his"""
Bitcoin to a government address and they then sold all those coins the market would most
likely react in a negative way.

lets address some of the points, points made as if they were factual

1. Is the US currently seeking the arrest of Satoshi? no
2. Does Satoshi "actually" have access to those wallets? probably not, """"he"""" more than
likely walked away from Bitcoin in more ways than just disappearing from being present
online. So the "not your keys, not your Bitcoin" would come into play
3. US government would sell all of Satoshi's Bitcoin. That doesnt make sense but anyway
if they did they can only do so once! so who would they sell them to? and wouldnt that mean
someone would buy them.........
4. Bitcoin would go to zero. You mean that at no point on the way to zero nobody would buy
Bitcoin, not even for $10?

nonsense


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Today at 11:02:11 AM
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Cheesy You are very funny. What did satoshi did for the US government to arrest him and then take away all his bitcoin, let me remind you that satoshi creating bitcoin has not committed any crime and for that reason the US government cannot arrest him, even if they want to do it they will fear that protest will break out from that arrest. Bitcoin is now used by millions of people in the world and you can’t just arrest the creator of something like that. One of the benefits we got from Satoshi disappearance is that it gave bitcoin more value, and he should continue keeping himself anonymous. The US are also investing in bitcoin, don’t forget that. The only thing that will happen when Satoshi comes out or is found is that Bitcoin will grow more popular.

There's no clear violation on what Satoshi did and those cases to be filed is just another speculation. Remember that ETH creator is well known personality to and government didn't sue nor arrest him for creating ETH.

So most provably same goes with Satoshi to. People are just curious to know the real identity of Satoshi that's why speculation still floats towards his possible condition.

There's also rumor before on which this site https://www.cryptotimes.io/2025/06/13/did-the-u-s-meet-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-in-2019-a-lawsuit-says-yes/ says that U.S government says they already meet the real Satoshi way back year 2019

But same again there's no proof that this story or those speculation they made is true.

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Today at 11:10:12 AM
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Just because bitcoin has reached its heights and become very popular to the people does not mean that Satoshi should bear all the consequences. The government has nothing to file against Satoshi because bitcoin itself is legal, so it would be an illegal act if they will put him to their custody and force Satoshi to make illegal transactions.

This only proves that the government feels the threat of having bitcoin. Why? Bitcoin promotes transparency and high security, but the government cannot even perform it to the fiat transactions that are happening under the table.
You are more right than ever with your support of Satoshi Nakamoto being hidden given that bitcoin is 17 years old and its maker remains complete mystery.
Although the of his guessed 1.1 million BTC is now worth more than 75 billion dollars, according to 2026 study, legal wall surrounding Satoshi has just gotten tougher. In 2024 and 2025, two big court cases shown by major decisions in the United Kingdom, which have proven in legal courts that Bitcoin rules are not owned by one group and bitcoins are owned by no one person, have only strengthened the use of rules as money tool against wall.

The hidden name of Satoshi, in my view, is actually the best security feature of Bitcoin, in that it is impossible to have the network choked by some form of control or rule by government, and therefore, it will be global system, which does not need any ok to live.

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Today at 02:04:56 PM
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You are more right than ever with your support of Satoshi Nakamoto being hidden given that bitcoin is 17 years old and its maker remains complete mystery.
Although the of his guessed 1.1 million BTC is now worth more than 75 billion dollars, according to 2026 study, legal wall surrounding Satoshi has just gotten tougher. In 2024 and 2025, two big court cases shown by major decisions in the United Kingdom, which have proven in legal courts that Bitcoin rules are not owned by one group and bitcoins are owned by no one person, have only strengthened the use of rules as money tool against wall.
Bitcoins of Satoshi Nakamoto holdings are now on Arkham.
https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/satoshi-nakamoto

The court in the UK would be this one.
COPA vs Craig Wright: The Identity Trial
Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial.

Craig Wright was confirmed as not Satoshi Nakamoto while the court and we still don't know who is or who are Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Today at 02:09:42 PM
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The only reason Bitcoin is still existing and growing bigger and better is because the creator of bitcoin decided to make him self anonymous till date.
Yep, the reality is a bit harsh, while it should not be this way, but you are right, if he gets caught, or even moves his funds to another wallet, the market can dump. But the technology has been adopted so much that maybe it can survive that phase. Because if the government accepts him and makes him a celebrity, then the outcome will be different and it will be the happy ending I would want.

Adoption is high, so maybe it can take the hit, but bro, really, it will be a show to watch. Let's wait and watch if a day like this will ever come but I doubt it, because the government has dozens of scandals like Epstein, so they could easily manipulate the market with them.


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Today at 03:01:35 PM
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Dan Pena was right when he said and I quote "if we know who created bitcoin it would go to zero".
If the US government was able to know and fine Satoshi Nakamoto they would have made sure that Bitcoin go to Zero, and doing it would have been very easy for them, because when they have satoshi Nakamoto in their custody, they will first of all make him send all his bitcoin to them, which is 1 million bitcoin, and when that happens, they will sell all the bitcoin and when they do that bitcoin will automatically go to Zero. And again Decentralization myth could weaken. The only reason Bitcoin is still existing and growing bigger and better is because the creator of bitcoin decided to make him self anonymous till date.
So, why have they never been able to catch Satoshi Nakamoto? Aren't they always arrogantly saying that their tracking system is so sophisticated that it shouldn't be difficult to track Satoshi Nakamoto down after all these years? If he hasn't committed any crimes, why would they need to pursue him? Has Satoshi Nakamoto committed any crimes? Yes, he's so dangerous. I'm not so sure that when Satoshi Nakamoto is arrested, the price of Bitcoin will hit zero and I think that's an overstatement.

Bitcoin isn't as bad as it seems because it develops independently without government direct intervention. When a country decides to make Bitcoin a reserve asset, that's the basis for why it's their asset of choice. The "return to zero" scenario is a common one among haters and perhaps not just now as it's been voiced by others who hate Bitcoin before.

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