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Today at 04:28:54 PM
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I’ve been watching the Charts and overall Market sentiment for quite some time now. And it's just laughable that the "revolutionary" talk just evaporates when the market starts to bleed. I think the issue is Price Anchoring, I think we are wired to perceive what happened "yesterday" as the permanent reality and when The Market is Green Everyone acts like a visionary but the Second Market starts bleeding Everyone starts Questioning their "Vision". It's like people forget the Actual Mechanics of the Network and make price the only indicator as to the tech is "working" or not. The truth is that most of the people here are just LARPing as high-conviction investors.

It's easy to say you're in it for Decentralisation or whatever the Math when you are 20% up but when you are at Drawdown, that's when you realize if you actually understand what you bought. I have seen in a few discord servers where the people who were posting "To the Moon" memes are now the ones who are hoping to Get out on break-even. It's Hard to believe in something which you don't know about, if everyone right now just have a teeny bit of Fundamental knowledge then they will have something to rely on when the hype is Ended. The truth is we need people who believe in Bitcoin not who wants to Benefit from Bitcoin. And if you believe in It then the benefiting Part comes in the package with it.

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Today at 04:57:05 PM
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It has been happening forever.  There is always a huge group who are just involved for a short term gain without (a) being able to think in terms of 5-10-15 years, (b) not doing a lot of research, and (c) (even worse) investing using margin.
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Today at 05:14:28 PM
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What do you expect, that's human for you. They praise you when you're successful and criticize you when you're stumbling. They forget that bitcoin is an asset that has two phases which is the bear market and the bull run. How is it possible for the price to only be pumping without dipping. The bottom line is that people must always talk negatively about bitcoin.

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Today at 05:23:54 PM
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It doesn't surprise me. Most people haven't read enough about bitcoin to truly understand it. Most people still pull the 'bitcoin has no intrinsic value' card, and when someone tells them that this is true for the US dollar, they respond with 'but the US dollar is backed by the military'.

There are certain topics in life where most people just suck to. That's precisely where the system relies on.

 
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Today at 05:25:19 PM
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The truth is we need people who believe in Bitcoin not who wants to Benefit from Bitcoin. And if you believe in It then the benefiting Part comes in the package with it.
The greater good Bitcoin does is to benefit investors, almost all investors are into Bitcoin for profits, aside the benefits that comes with investing or trading Bitcoin, there is a huge gap of those who would just keep to Bitcoin like that.

As an investor who spends money buying Bitcoin, of course there has to be trust in Bitcoin, that is the reason only those who understand Bitcoin and commit to their investment will experience the benefits, weak hands often go into loss.

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Today at 05:37:15 PM
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I recently read an article citing research into consumer Bitcoin buyers and apparently it is getting significant competition from other forms of betting, including sports betting apps.

In short, young people are finding that betting on games they can watch on TV is far more interesting than just watching a number go up and down on their iPhone screen.

Also, Bitcoin is running into a crisis of "shelf space": the place where most consumers buy Bitcoin--apps like CoinBase and Robinhood--also present hundreds of other products alongside Bitcoin, and many of those products are more advantageous to the platform if their users buy them so they pump those products instead.

Bitcoin has no technical advantages over its competitors, and in fact has significant disadvantages in terms of speed and cost. It is in no way "a better product". It just happens to be the most popular one right this moment. Indeed, as a product not backed by a corporation, it has significant DISadvantages in the marketplace since its appreciation doesn't profit them as much as it does other products.

Finally, all of the old "religion" around Bitcoin disappeared when the crypto industry bought the 2024 US elections, with the sole purpose of that political push focused around making the price of Bitcoin go up. Bitcoin used to have a counter-culture mystique, but that no longer exists when the US president owns and pumps (and dumps Smiley) Bitcoin. Today it's just a mainstream popular meme, not some sort of cause.

Hence the only question you need to ask about Bitcoin is, are there still enough low-information buyers out there who can pump money into the Bitcoin market and make it go up in price? That's the question the Bitcoin Whales (i.e. the 10-20 people who own most of Bitcoin) ask themselves every day. At some point the human tendency to learn and expand will dry all of those new buyers up. (And once the Whales see there's no more new money in the system to buy their bags... look out below Smiley).

Maybe it's already happened, or maybe there are a few million more buyers out there who will push the price up with their new purchases, but that's the only question here.


It doesn't surprise me. Most people haven't read enough about bitcoin to truly understand it. Most people still pull the 'bitcoin has no intrinsic value' card, and when someone tells them that this is true for the US dollar, they respond with 'but the US dollar is backed by the military'.

There are certain topics in life where most people just suck to. That's precisely where the system relies on.

A consumer doesn't have to believe Bitcoin is "worthless" in order to pass on it as an investment, they just need to believe it's not worth as much as the current price point. Probably lots of consumers believe its worthless, but probably a lot more believe they missed the boat and should have bought it when it was $100 per coin, and now they are looking for another elevator to riches instead.

(And yes, the US Dollar is basically the tracking stock of the United States writ large. It's "market cap" is the sum total enterprise value of the USA, which includes all of the land, assets and enterprises the USA has within its dominion. [Also, don't confuse "secondary stock offerings"--i.e. expansion of the monetary base--with the value of the enterprise as whole. Apple could issue millions more shares tomorrow, and their stock share price would go down, but that doesn't mean Apple itself has diminished in value]).


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Today at 05:38:22 PM
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Seems normal a lot of investors have no idea about how they are investing in to, I learn the market the hard way and there are always going to be questions about Bitcoin when the market is just down or times like these it's normal unless all of the investors actually know what they are doing, but most of them have no idea what they are investing in, so we could expect a lot of questions, and a lot of investors are going to be afraid on there investment and probably might end up selling on a lose, but these crash or dump are always a part of the market cycle, it doesn't really market especially if you are investing for long term.

Back in the day, I easily sold my investment at times like these, as a newbie, it is just scary when you see your portfolio dropping a huge amount. I didn't have the vision, knowledge, or experience yet to understand it.

 
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Today at 05:49:04 PM
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That is a normal response from people when they start to see that prices are not in line with their expectations, and I don't see it as something strange or something we need to think about because it is up to them to comment on price movements. That is their personal opinion.

The important thing is that you, as a holder, are not affected by what other people say. If you understand that Bitcoin's fundamentals are very good, then you can remain calm and even accumulate more Bitcoin than those who panic and sell when the price drops. Your actions will undoubtedly yield better results than those who continue to shout and panic sell when prices drops.

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Today at 05:49:36 PM
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And if you believe in It then the benefiting Part comes in the package with it.
Not believe, but trust. People have to trust the system so they can understand what's going on. Alot of Investors today are blinded by their lust for profits. Most of them barly even understand the main reason behind bitcoin investment. A perfect example are those who invest thier money buying ETFs. Such people simply are in for the profits not the technological idea behind it.

The fact is we can't force anyone to learn those things as over time you realise that today's Investors are no.match for the early days investors who experienced several market crash but held every single bitcoin till date. They didn't believe in the system, they trusted their idea to be worth their time that's why they never panicked. And bitcoin paid them massively for that trust .

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Today at 06:00:24 PM
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Hence the only question you need to ask about Bitcoin is, are there still enough low-information buyers out there who can pump money into the Bitcoin market and make it go up in price? That's the question the Bitcoin Whales (i.e. the 10-20 people who own most of Bitcoin) ask themselves every day. At some point the human tendency to learn and expand will dry all of those new buyers up. (And once the Whales see there's no more new money in the system to buy their bags... look out below Smiley).
Bitcoin will always go up over the long term. It's just the natural order of things; pricing a finite asset using an infinite. Basic economics. Bitcoin buyers aren't "low information". People stack bitcoin knowing their fiat currencies diminish in value, and that it has a much higher potential upside than other assets like gold.

Welcome back btw. Where had you been the entire bull run?  Grin

 
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