New Mixer On The Forum

[Pretty Mahila]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

[rat03gopoh]

If you think b1exch is a mixer, then the definition of a mixer according to forum rules is different from your dictionary.
Btw, Do you know how a mixer works?

[examplens]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

Did you really register a new account to write this?
Have you seen anywhere where they promote increased privacy or cleaning coins, anything like that?
They don't even offer the possibility to swap one currency for the same one, but with a different origin

[logfiles]

The problem is you don't want to read or/if not you just have a "grudge" given by how you decided to create a new account just to complain about this. It's OK to post from your main account if you are not sure about something.

Let me quote this and you read it once again

Definition of a mixer

For clarity, here is a detailed definition of what we mean by a "mixer". Most people know intuitively what a mixer is and don't have to read this.

Something is considered a mixer if it meets all of these requirements:
 1. It has a feature advertised for taking property, improving its privacy somehow, and then returning roughly the same type of property.
     a. Even though you can sometimes use non-mixers to mix coins by depositing and then withdrawing, this doesn't make it a mixer because this is an incidental use of the service; the service isn't advertised as privacy-enhancing.
     b. If a site is not primarily a mixer but has a mixer function, such as a mixer function on a gambling website, then the whole site is considered a mixer.
     c. If the site takes coins, gives you a possibly-transferrable IOU, and will convert this IOU back into mixed coins much later, then the temporary conversion into a different type of property does not prevent it from being considered a mixer.
     d. If the site internally converts your deposit into other things as part of its mixing, but ultimately the point of the product is to get your original type of property back, then that's a mixer, not an exchanger.
 2. It is possible for the mixer to steal property passing through it. Assume that the sender does everything as correctly as possible. Also assume that no miners/verifiers on the base-layer cryptocurrency are evil. But assume that every other actor involved is evil (everyone able to vote in a DAO, every coordination server, every counterparty, every member of a multisig, etc.). Ignore short-term software bugs which are expected to be quickly fixed.
 3. The service does not collect KYC-type info from all users. (This is not an endorsement of KYC generally, or a condemnation of non-KYC services generally. Non-KYC services of other types are still allowed, and in many cases they are a good idea.)

Examples of things that are not mixers under our definition include exchangers (unless they have a mixing function), CoinJoin-supporting non-custodial wallets, and Monero.

[KingsDen]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

Hey!
This is an exchange. If you think they are lying, it is in your place to prove them wrong.
Kindly say why you think they are mixer hiding in the cloth of an exchange.

Do they swap BTC to BTC?
This is the most common way to know a mixer.

[Doan9269]

To add to what logfiles already quoted from the definition theymos gave a mixer, it is clear that this platform is not a mixer, there's nothing like mix your coin or clean your coins there, its an exchange service.

Trust that this promotion was being managed by an experienced member who understands what mixer is, moreover, do you actually have to create new account all because of this, maybe you could have be more bold to appear and make public confrontation on issues like this if you're sure of what you're saying.

[Ronsbit]

OP, funny you created a new account to complain, but it would have been more better if you had used your real identity here to do this. Anyways, I do not think this platform is a mixer because if it was, I believe it would have been brought down by the admin immediately after it got launched here because the forum frowns at it. As you can see, this is an exchange we are talking about here, not a mixer as the featurs varies. Maybe you should do a proper verification and come up with tangible proof to back up your claims.

[dkbit98]

New Mixer On The Forum

No, it's not a mixer.
That is clearly quick swap exchange service, and you obviously can't tell the difference.
It is stupid to register new forum account just to write crap like this, when you obviously have other account and think you know forum rules.

[Ambatman]

Will be dropping this here

Examples of things that are not mixers under our definition include exchangers (unless they have a mixing function), CoinJoin-supporting non-custodial wallets, and Monero.

If you had taken the time to check their site
You would understand that They don't exchange Bitcoin for Bitcoin common practice for a mixer.
It's as the name implies an exchange for changing from one currency to the other.



I guess you using a dummy account to protect your identity. Not a wrong idea
I hope you see where I'm going with this.

[SuperBitMan]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

You registered this account today just to write this, why can’t you use your main account to write this here, what are you really scared of.
You really don’t understand what a mixer is and that is why you didn’t use your main account so you won’t look like a fool, however I will give you an evidence of doubt if you can tell us the reason why you think it’s a mixer, but if you can’t do that then keep quiet.
One good advice, before you write make some research, it helps prevent people looking you as a fool, and also prevent you from writing meaninglessly.

[Mia Chloe]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

You should read through Theymos's thread about what kind of service identifies as a mixer and what service doesn't. One of the clearest explanations amongst the others Theymos pointed out is if a service claims that you send in say Bitcoin and get back same bitcoin them it's a mixer.

For clarity in addition to what others have said if it was a mixer admins won't actually allow it last up to the two weeks it has currently lasted.

[GeorgeJohn]

New Mixer On The Forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571363.0
If Forum Does Not Allow Mixers Why Is It Ok Then!!!

If this particular platform were mixer, it would have noticed by other reputable members, the same day it was launched, it's would have be same day or two days later a reputable members would have noticed it...

This is an exchange, but from your founding or from your perspective..if you insist that it's a mixer, you have to convince the forum users with your evidence that indicates that they're a mixer..

The forum is not against your accusations...but you need to a show proof that will convince the forum about your claims of this exchange been a mixer..

Also make a research of what a mixer is all about and compare it, to the exchange...So before filling accusations, please make a proper research..

[acroman08]

It would have been nice if you explained and pointed out why you think B1exch.io is a mixer, so at least people would know what made came to that conclusion. Right now, there is no indication that the website is a mixer. This is just another reason why providing evidence to your claims is important.

[hugeblack]

It is not a mixer, but there are issues related to the owner (as explained in Reputation), so it is up to the community members whether they want to advertise to them or not.

[Rikafip]

That is clearly quick swap exchange service, and you obviously can't tell the difference.

My guess it that he knows it's not a mixer (hence alt account and no further explanation) but he just came to stir some shit for whatever reason. Maybe butthurt that he didn't get into signature campaign or something along those lines.

[xLays]

Why you didn't used your main account?
Anyway lol to be honest even I initially thought this service was really a mixer, especially when I first visited their website. It reminded me of eXch, which was not a mixer and had been around for a long time here in bitcointalk until they decided to shut down. (Correct me if I’m wrong, but I read somewhere that they were seized.)
But yeah after seeing those who support this project and how they explained that it is not a mixer, maybe I can now say that this is not a mixer.